Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald discusses the Sharia regime of Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan, and the myopia that brought it about:
Smooth Karzai, oleaginous Karzai, Our Man In Kabul Karzai, forever blotted his copybook when he emerged from the anti-Infidel antisemitic rant of Mahathir Muhammad at a meeting of the O.I.C., and declared the speech "splendid." That was it. He could have remained silent. He could have said, with studied ambiguity, "a speech about Muslim weakness that provokes thought." He could have said "it is a speech that is certainly controversial." He could have said "No comment." He could have had an aide say "Mr. Karzai is currently unavailable" or "Mr. Karzai will not be able to speak to you now, for he has a pressing meeting."But no. Karzai praised that awful speech. And the most attractive purple-and-green robe, the most sincere smile, the outrage at the Taliban, will simply not do enough to offset the hint of his "sorry-just-can't-go-the-whole-distance" and "I-have-to-remain-in-the-end-true-to-Islam-and-to-the-Mahathir-Mohameds-of-this-world" attitude.
Sorry, that's no longer acceptable. The West, the Infidels, can't accept that. And we wouldn’t be accepting it if this present conflict were properly defined as a counter-Jihad, a war to prevent the spread of a totalitarian and supremacist belief-system, and to counter the aggressive proponents of that belief-system in their threats to the laws, customs, manners, and understandings of all Infidels. After 9/11, before 9/11, our politicians should have learned as much as they could about the tenets of Islam and the history of Islamic jihad conquest. Even now, they should be reading the books of Spencer, Bat Ye'or, and others. The rank-and-file should read them and educate others. The generals apparently are too old to learn new tricks, and are too much, some of them, careerists --for who gets to rise in the ranks, if not those who parrot the party line? Too many of them are stuck in the esposito-michael sells-armstrong mud of apologetics. But the ordinary soldiers may turn out to be wiser and better informed.
The "war on terror" is nonsense that comes not from Muslims, but from Infidels. Ask yourself if, had you been alive in World War II, you would have been satisfied to hear a Fireside Chat in which FDR said "our war against the blitzkrieg" proceeds in France and Italy. No, you wouldn't. And you would know why.Lack of knowledge may possibly be excused up to 9/11, but is not excusable now in any government officials. Their first duty after 9/11 was to remedy their own considerable ignorance, and in this they failed spectacularly. Because the Administration initially failed to learn enough about Islam, it never understood that the only argument that made sense in invading Iraq was not that there was a necessary connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. Al Qaeda was and is merely one among many similar groups, and not even now the most important or necessarily the most dangerous. Saddam Hussein was most interested in Saddam Hussein. He was interested in his friends and relatives from Tikrit. Then in the Sunnis of Iraq. Then in being King of the Sunni Arabs. The idea of Islam conducting a worldwide Jihad was simply beyond his ken, not that he wouldn't have minded it, just so long as he could be King of the Caliph's Castle -- in order words, Mr. Big.
The failure to understand Islam meant that all sorts of goofy or messianic ideas were proposed and, in being proposed, believed. One is the belief that "democracy" is a plant easy to transplant to stony soil. This was and is believed although there was never any thorough investigation of why Islam appears to favor despotism, or of why only Lebanon (with a large and powerful Christian presence) and Turkey (with 80 years of Kemalism, i.e. systematic constraints put on the political power and influence of Islam) have shown signs of tolerating, to some degree, a version of democracy. And even that is not the full-fledged Western version, but at least the head-counting and to some degree, some legal protections against the force of Islam and the Sharia.
The failure to understand Islam meant that we would try to help Iraq, rather than to simply remove the dictator, and leave Iraq to do what it inevitably was going to do no matter what the Americans did. This was perfectly foreseeable in 2004. It had nothing to do with what American policy was, or how long its presence lasted. Civil war became inevitable when the Sunni despotism was removed over the 60-65% of the population that is Shi'a and deeply resentful, justifiably, with its previous treatment, and by the 20% of the population that is Kurd, not ethnic Arab, and which is also deeply resentful, justifiably, with ditto.
And the failure to understand Islam was accompanied by a failure to recognize, fully, the depth of that Shi'a resentment, and the depth of the Sunni rage at the perceived loss of power, and the depth of Kurdish desire to move from local autonomy to independence.
Very few intelligent people are employing their intelligence in Washington. The Administration was wrong, and so -- horribly -- have been almost all of its critics.
Except here at Jihad Watch. Here we have offered the most consistent and unrebuttable criticisms. They are based not on a desire to appease or ignore the menace of Islam, but to take it, and the instruments of Jihad, all into account -- and to figure out the thousand ways, little and big, to resist that Jihad. These may range from threatening Iran not only with destruction of its nuclear facilities but, as a delayed result, with national dissolution. The Azeris, the Baluchis, the Kurds, the Arabs could all rise up, possibly inspired both by a free Kurdistan, and by an obvious humiliation inflicted by the Americans on the regime should its weapons project be destroyed or heavily damaged.
Another path of resistance would be to support those European leaders who are both respectable (no Le Pens or Griffins need apply) and well-informed about the nature of Islam, and who have finally comprehended the scope and permanence of the menace that the large-scale presence of Muslims poses to all European Infidels. That presence has already created in each Infidel country a situation that is far more unpleasant, unstable, expensive, and physically dangerous for the Infidels than it would have been without that large-scale Muslim presence. And these leaders or potential leaders are only now beginning to understand the kind of things that will need to be done in order to halt the growth in that Muslim presence, and even reverse it. But they need help; they need signs of shared comprehension and alarm, that such phrases as the "war on terror" are hollow. There needs to be an end to the messianic belief that what is wrong with the Muslim world is poverty, or lords of misrule, or absence of democracy, or all kinds of things -- but never, ever, Islam itself. But it is Islam itself that explains the political, economic, social, intellectual, and moral failures of Muslim societies, and it is Islam itself that explaiins the behavior and attitudes of Muslims that threaten all Infidels, whether those Muslims live in Iraq, or Afghanistan, or in London or Madrid or Amsterdam or Falls Church, Virginia.
Those leaders need an American government that understands the threat and has figured out clever ways to instruct the public, even if it still feels the need to avoid using the word "Islam" straight up, but needs to dilute or modify that word somehow.
Above all, American or other Infidel support for Sharia-Lite regimes such as that of Karzai, which may require ignoring the persecution of non-Muslims and women in Afghanistan and Iraq and elsewhere, should be seen for the hollow, internally contradictory policy it is. It is one more example of stumbling all over, in a state of permanent confusion, as one must as long as one views Islam itself as a plausible and even indispensable part of some "solution" to a problem -- that problem being the threat of Islam itself.
oh why oh why do we have such a double standard when it comes to muslims? No one ever really expects the muslims to behave like westerners. Even at thier best, we EXPECT them to be virulently anti-semetic, violent, mysogynistic, backward fools. We expect that sunni will want to behead their shite cousins, and this is all just accepted as " a different culture" and we are even taught that we should respect it, just because it is a different culture, with the implication that every culture is worth respecting.
Well, every culture IS NOT worth respecting.
And by the way, the arab moslem is among the most RACIST cultural groups in the world. Just look at the HOLOCAUST of BLack Moslems going on the Sudan. Why do we not hear about that from the world moslem leaders? They care more about the false issue of "Palestine" than a REAL LIFE HOLOCAUST of muslims by muslims!What Hypocrisy!Lets finally call them on it.
OT but always related:
Blowback in the Balkans
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21712
(kj, nariz, thanks So much for teaching me that term!)
I'm also going to slip in something which is OT, but relevant, and I slip it here because it fits within the heading "ignorance of Islam".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4664492.stm
I would not post every crime committed on the streets of the UK that were commited by a Muslim, merely because he or she was a Muslim. They don't have the monopoly on crime. But this case has caused me concern from the very beginning when I heard that the young girl victims were gang raped, and for the girl who died, the immediate cause of death was her throat being slit. Her friend survived a bullet. The 6 men charged have all now been convicted of murder and the reports concentrate on the nasty underworld of drug gangs and dog eating dog.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4778704.stm
Only one paper, the local one, thought there was any significance, and worthy of mention albeit without comment, that the Morally brothers sat during a bail hearing early last year, silently clutching a copy of the Koran. And which book recommends throat sliting as a means of disposing of enemies and unbelievers? My gut reaction is that the motive to murder may have been gang related, but the manner of death was from another malign influence.
But that's just my opinion.
Granny it is almost the same scenario as has happened multiple times in Sydney except that here there was a random choice of available kafir female and so they did need to jkill her.
Naturally the whole islamic establishment backed up these "poor young boys" while the Imam who recommended this sort of behaviour never even had a comment made about it let alone a charge.
I am starting to believe that we have only two sorts of muslims: those who are actively violent here and now; and those who are potentially violent at anytime.
My son works with a "secular" muslim who did the usual "naughty" things(eat pork, smoke, drink etc) but his daughter believing in this decided to marry a kafir and willingly change religion. Apparently now he is back on the koranic bandwagon: his wife and daughter have had to give up their jobs and stay home( I have no idea about the marriage) and he now demands to be allowed to do his prayers at work. At the same time his whole attitude has changed, his work quality has slid markedly and the firm would love to sack him but are too scared. So scratch a secular Muslim and you may often find the koran.
Hugh, Templar: Why do you continue to divide the world only into Islam and the West? See "Sorry, that's no longer acceptable. The West, the Infidels, can't accept that."
Yes, we in the West are a huge portion of the non-Islamic infidel world. However there is also a huge slice of humanity that is neither Islamic nor Western, such as Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc. It reminds me of when Jews speak of 6 million killed by Hitler but neglect to include the 6 million non-Jews also killed by Hitler.
There is enough room in the non-Islamic tent for all, not just the "Westerner" subset. Hugh, you made the point over the weekend that the term "Palestinian People" should be discarded. By the same token, by self-limiting non-Islamics to "Westerners" or the "West" you are handing the enemy a victory of sorts; you are dividing and conquering for Islam without even a shot being fired.
Please include the rest of the non-Islamic world that wants to remain that way. Otherwise, please keep up the great work here at J/Dwatch.org!