And why? Because political correctness and ignorance prevent American authorities from asking people like this doctor the right questions about what they believe about Islam and jihad. They further prevent those authorities from coming to grips with the fact that there is no reliable way to distinguish a peaceful Muslim from a Muslim who is inclined to violence: the doctrines of jihad supremacism and violence are deeply rooted within Islamic tradition, and there is no mainstream Muslim group that has ever renounced them.
"Insurgent doctor killed dozens of wounded soldiers," from the Independent, :
When policemen, soldiers and officials in Kirkuk who were injured in insurgent attacks arrived in the emergency room of the hospital, they hoped their chances of surviving had gone up as doctors tended their wounds.In fact, many of the wounded were almost certain to die because one of the doctors at the Republic Hospital was a member of an insurgent cell. Pretending to treat the injured men, he killed 43 of them by secretly administering lethal injections, a police inquiry has revealed.
"He was called Dr Louay and when the terrorists had failed to kill a policeman or a soldier he would finish them off," Colonel Yadgar Shukir Abdullah Jaff, a senior Kirkuk police chief, told The Independent. "He gave them a high dosage of a medicine which increased their bleeding so they died from loss of blood."
Dr Louay carried out his murder campaign over an eight to nine-month period, say police. He appeared to be a hard working assistant doctor who selflessly made himself available for work in any part of the hospital, which is the largest in Kirkuk.
Which immediately raises another question. Imagine a deeply-devout Muslim doctor, keeping his views well-hidden, working in a hospital in Manchester, England and treating, say, Hindu and Jewish patients. Any worries there? Suppose the hospital in a poor banlieue of Paris, with a mostly Muslim patient load but also with a few poor French people, who still live in the area, and who are elderly, possibly Catholic or not, and about whom there is no one to enquire. Vary the hypothetical. Put the hospital in, say, California. Make the patient or patients veterans of the Iraq War.
An outrageous thing to think about? Simply beyond the pale? Could never happen because....because it could never happen?
Tell us how our fears on this score are to be alleviated or allayed. What will make us cease to worry?
So much for the Hypocratic Oath. Leave it to Islam and unholy jihad to render this null and void in Islamofecesland.
Religion of Peace. Seems more like a "Religion of Assasins." A "Religion of the games of Deceit and Death."
Here is a perfect example of the enigma and challenge that faces the West:
One can never trust a Jihadist given that the religion or dogma of Islam preaches Jihadism.
We can never take a Muslim to our bosum, be it a Salmon Rushdie , a Mohamed Baradai or a S.Shwartz.
As for the good doctor, what would be a fit punishment and use for him?
First locate his place of worship.
After execution publish his fate to the mosque.
Two words:
Unspeakable evil.
Incredible. What a disturbing story. Yet so typical of the Religion of Peace.
Hugh, your scenario is both scary and plausible. Given the power of the Jihadist ideology, even a doctor can be an instrument of death. An Islamist doctor could very easily kill dozens before being discovered, as was the case with this doctor in Iraq. The very thought turns my stomach, seing this noble proffession corrupted by Islamic evil.
These are truly evil times, and it's only going to get worse.
dgene
Actually, real justice would be to execute him in the mosque, cremate his body there (i.e. no Muslim funeral) and the burn and bulldoze the mosques after arresting its Mullahs.
In the war against these psychopaths and mass-murderers, there can be no half-measures!
In Kirkuk they may call him Dr. Louay. I prefer to call him Dr. CAIR.
While I believe that this swine should be taken out and shot, a local catholic GP refusing abortions in 2 unmarried girls virtually assisted in their suicides. I bring this up for the sake of comparison and will not discuss it further as it never reached public notice.
You can compare that to a friend of mine who went as to the Sudan as a member of medecin sans frontiers and who was stabbed to death by a lunatic muslim at 26 yrs of age. He died doing something that he loved and put patients and his religion before his life.
Religion has NO role in medicine and anyone who puts it before their patients should be crucified. It just proves even moreso that you cannot trust ANY of them
Another lovely low for the peaceful loving religion known as lslam.
lslam = murder
Pretend all ya want you animals.
"...a local catholic GP refusing abortions in 2 unmarried girls virtually assisted in their suicides."
-Zathras at March 23, 2006 10:35 AM
I'm sorry, but that's about the dumbest thing I think you've ever written here.
"...a local catholic GP refusing abortions in 2 unmarried girls virtually assisted in their suicides."
-Zathras at March 23, 2006 10:35 AM
I'm sorry, but that's about the dumbest thing I think you've ever written here.
Posted by: Eisenhund
It's quite simple Eisenhund. You criticize doctors when they kill except for
the times they won't kill when they should.
That should be --AND the times they won't kill when they should-- now it's simple.
The Al Qaeda training manual specifies how Drs are supposed to act in the land of the infidel.
http://www.usdoj.gov/ag/manualpart1_1.pdf
The same in HTML
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:aH--7xrH2c4J:www.usdoj.gov/ag/manualpart1_1.pdf+Al+Qaeda+manual&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3
Well hey NoMo, some of us are of the opinion that if you don't want to have a kid don't get pregnant. If you want to compare a doctor refusing to abort a child to a jihadi murderer (one's faith compels him not to kill, the other one's commands him to kill), then you need some serious therapy. Not to mention the fact that holding the doctor responsible for their suicides is absurdly stupid. That's the same kind of crap the Mohammedans and lefties pull all the time. "I'm not responsible for my actions, its Catholics/mens/Infidels/etc fault." Grow up.
So much for the Hippocratic oath....
ps-Havoc: I don't believe that any apologies are called for. Most of us had no idea ten years ago these folks were prepping for the committing of mass homicides.
ps-daveconcerned: Halloween and Islam go together like zombies and horror flicks...
Muslim and Middle Eastern dhimmi Christian physician murderers are common. Just look at some of the leaders of Hamas, Al-Qaeda, PFLP, etc.
One need look no further than the Oath of a Muslim Physician to know, in part, why:
The Oath of a Muslim Physician
Praise be to Allah (God), the Teacher, the Unique, Majesty of the heavens, the Exalted, the Glorious, Glory be to Him, the Eternal Being Who created the Universe and all the creatures within, and the only Being Who contained the infinity and the eternity. We serve no other god besides Thee and regard idolatry as an abominable injustice.
Give us the strength to be truthful, honest, modest, merciful and objective.
Give us the fortitude to admit our mistakes, to amend our ways and to forgive the wrongs of others.
Give us the wisdom to comfort and counsel all towards peace and harmony.
Give us the understanding that ours is a profession sacred that deals with your most precious gifts of life and intellect.
Therefore, make us worthy of this favoured station with honor, dignity and piety so that we may devote our lives in serving mankind, poor or rich, literate or illiterate, Muslim or non-Muslim, black or white with patience and tolerance with virtue and reverence, with knowledge and vigilance, with Thy love in our hearts and compassion for Thy servants, Thy most precious creation.
Hereby we take this oath in Thy name, the Creator of all the Heavens and the earth and follow Thy counsel as Thou has revealed to Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).
"Whoever killeth a human being, not in liew of another human being nor because of mischief on earth, it is as if he hath killed all mankind. And if he saveth a human life, he hath saved the life of all mankind." (Qur'an V/35)
This medical oath which is a composite from the historical and contemporary writings of physicians of Islamic World, was officially adopted by I.M.A. in 1977.
Islamic Medical Association of North America
Notice the qualifier, "not in liew of another human being nor because of mischief on earth."
And who are those who commit mischief? (sometimes translated as "corruption")
"Non-Muslims 'cannot be called human beings but are animals who roam the earth and engage in corruption.' said Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati last week at a ceremony in north-eastern Iran to commemorate the 'martyrs' of the Revolutionary Guards and the war against Iraq (1980-88)."
From: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Compaq_Owner/My%20Documents/Word/Dad's%20Case/corruption_islam.htm
Next time you go see a doctor, think twice about the price you may pay to support diversity.
Next time you go see a doctor, think twice about the price you may pay to support diversity.
Posted by: veritas-emet
I just had major spine surgery at a large city university hospital. 5 1/2 hours of surgery, a 5 day planned hospital stay. I forced myself to work through the pain to get out of that place ASAP. 8 of the 12 nurses and aids had a very poor grasp of English. I waited 12 hours to get my morphine drip refilled as either the skill was not there ( a loaned nurse from a cardiac care floor), a language barrier or something more sinister. I do not mind a UN like staff but hatred in the eyes of many was a surprise.
The food staff appeared to be NOI based on their uniforms and caps. The surgeons were great, the physical rehab staff were very good but all else drove me to get out of that hospital pronto. We live about 4 hours away from the hospital so leaving early was a risk but one that I gratefully took.
I had to ask the head nurse by the 3rd day to not have two others, a nurse and an aid, NOT to return to my room. They could be used for other patients. My wife stuggled valiantly to help me to minimize the 'help' from the staff.
By way of explanation, I have had many surgeries but this was the most brutal and shocking and I lay the blame on two things:
- Multiculturalism
- Islamophobia.
I have traveled to over 60 countries and lived in many of them. I pray not to have any more medical help.
This story absolutely disgusts me. One need not wonder why I am so deadly opposed to the spread of Islam in the world when there are treacherous, evil men such as this doing "the will of Allah."
Kind of reminds me of the stories I read about Jewish doctors in Israel treating Islamic terrorists, only in Israel they are treated to life, not bleeding to death.
And that Doc wasn't a Hindu-smashing mental patient, was he?
Carolyn2 -- I followed the link, read the manual (fast),but could find nothing about doctors. Could you possibly post that section here? Very interesting, in any case.
It is on the very last page, Hugh. I can't cut and paste PDF, and can't get the HTML to load now.
It in effect says that the Drs should have their medical licenses and have their offices in a place consistent with other medical facilities. I take it from that statement that there are in fact Drs in place in the UK and the US who are up to no good, just waiting for the word.
How vile and evil is it to kill patients in a hopsital that need medical help to survive???
The vile and evil cult of Islam continues with the killing of innocents by its vile and evil followers.
What more proof will it take for America to realize that America is in a war against Islam.
Prepare, be armed, be ready.
The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.
EisenHund...if you are a general practitioner of medicine then you are allowed to make such a commment abominable though it may be.
But the Hypocratic oath as it pertains to medicos implies that you should PUT your patients before any constraints of war or religion.
If you do not know that then "shut up".
If you do know it and still had to open your religiously bigoted mouth then a"shame be upon you!!" as you are no better than a Muslim.
I know of these cases as I was PERSONALLY involved and they were not your "run of the mill" loose trash falling pregnant as you so obviously and with bombastic morality assume.
I see NO difference in murder from intended neglect or intended illwill. Do You??
It's quite simple Eisenhund. You criticize doctors when they kill except for
the times they won't kill when they should.
Posted by: NoMo at March 23, 2006 12:15 PM
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NoMo you are a sick twisted individual.
Comparing this vile evil slime in Iraq with a doctor that will not commit abortions is repugnant.
This sob should be strung-up and turned into ash. This is a to good a death for this vile and evil person.
The war with Islam is inevitable.
Prepare, be armed, be ready.
The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost.
Zathras.....religion has no role in any area of life only humanity has a place.
-Zathras
For one thing you smug jackass, I never claimed to be religious. If you don't have enough morals to tell the difference between someone who believes abortion to be murder and refuses to do it and someone who believes murder to be his holy duty, then you can "shut up". Nobody "falls" pregnant either, you ignorant twit. And I don't really care if you were 'personally' involved. If your principles are that perverted, flexible, or lacking that's your problem. And I never assumed nor wrote anything about the individuals you cited. You made that up in your own head. Get off your high horse, you arrogant knob.
How in the f#*k did the anti abortion freaks hijack this thread?
This is not about the pro's and con's of abortions. Go and find yourselves another forum!
This is about Jihad and Mohammedan terror. Get the hell out of here and push your s#*t elsewhere...
I was assigned a muslim neurologist in leavenworth, Ks. His office was a normal routine work spot, his wife with head covering was his recepionist. When checking my feet with the electric probes he just went into his machine cabinet and opened a little box with some little electrodes in it and started poking my feet and legs causing a number of pin pricks and zapping me with the machine, while this may be routine I recalled later I never noticed the tell tale sanitized parts and material (gauze, anticeptic wipes, sterilized equipment parts etc.) Maybe he was just doing his part on the infidels but I changed doctors quickly and most doctors just dismiss his work as sloppy. Perhaps!!