From our "cry me a river" department, brought to us by (who else?) the New Duranty Times:
JERUSALEM, March 10 — In the last two weeks, the Palestinian Authority has been given about $70 million — more than $40 million released by the World Bank, nearly $21 million from the European Union and $10 million from Norway. But even when all that money arrives, the Palestinian Authority will have only 95 percent of the money needed to pay February's overdue salaries, according to the Palestinian economic minister.How it will cover salaries for March, said the minister, Mazen Sinokrot, "remains a mystery." And once Hamas, the militant Islamic party that swept January's legislative elections, names a new government, significant amounts of international aid will dry up.
"We're bankrupt," Mr. Sinokrot said bluntly in an interview on Thursday in his Ramallah office. "The world can't abandon us. It's in no one's interest, not for Israel or anyone, to have the P.A. public sector collapse. To increase unemployment this way would be a message of violence, not of peace."
Okay I am an economics moron, but why do they have to be subsidised at all? No one pays our bills. Doesn't anyone work there and pay taxes?
Or is being a professional "refugee" a fulltime occupation with throwing stones, ululating demonstratiins, sniping or fitting out TNT belts as the daily activity?
"The world can't abandon us. It's in no one's interest, not for Israel or anyone, to have the P.A. public sector collapse. To increase unemployment this way would be a message of violence, not of peace."
But Mr. Sinokrot; it's always been a message of violence, and it seems the more money the Palestinians have the more violence there is.
By the palestinian people voting in Hamas and giving them more than a simple majority in control of Palestine, they hahve sent a strong and negative message to the western world that they are clearly not interested in peace with Israel. That is of course if are to believe that the Hamas Charter says what it does then there can be no peace between Israel and the Palestinians.
The best thing that could happen is to stop funding the Palestinian welfare system then when they see that Hamas can not take care of the palestinian people anymore they might rebel against them.
Do we really expect other well healed and wealthy Islamic countries to pick up the never ending bill? I doubt it, there to cheap when it comes to that kind of support.
These people are welfare parasites, and need to be weaned off pronto! no more free money when you do violence should be the western world's motto. tax payers should revolt in all western countries. demand no more money sent to murderers and thieves!
Go ask Mrs. Arafat in Paris to do without this month.
The Palestinians had jobs, they had a sustainable economy. They have always argued that the jobs they had in Israel did not pay fairly, that they did not get the benefits of the taxes they paid, that Israel suppressed development in the West Bank by cutting of water, electricity, Etc. to the Palestinians, and over regulating them to a point where they could not compete in the world market. However they brought this on themselves by continuously choosing the side hate, and militant aggression over peace. At one time the Palestinains had hundreds of thousands of jobs in Kuwait which brought in 400 million dollars to the Palestinain economy every year, that represents less than one fifth of the nearly 2 billion dollars that sustains the Palestinians.
There was to much evidence that many Palestinains aligned themselves with Iraq when Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1990, thus the kuwaitis' dumped most of those Palestinian workers jobs because of that. The Palestinians have continuously bitten the hand that feeds them again and Again. With the beginning of the Intifada in 1987, Israel again lost trust of the Palestinians and withdrew more jobs from them. Israel chose to to give those jobs to the incoming Russian Jews that where coming into Israel instead. Now Palestine has done it again, by choosing Hamas over peace they have once again reduced their financial base and isolated themselves from the civilized world that has tried to work with them and has never succeeded.
Today more than 65 Pct of the Palestinians are unemployed but it is their own undoing. By choosing hate over peace they have written their own chapter of self destruction in the western world.
"The world can't abandon us. It's in no one's interest, not for Israel or anyone, to have the P.A. public sector collapse.
I'd suggest the world should abandon the P.A, A.S.A.P.
You can get a taste of this attitude of Islamic supremacy by comparing the Islamic Human rights declaration with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR). (4) Under the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights, the Muslim Ummah is proclaimed to be the "best nation", destined to "guide" the rest of humanity. Unlike the UDHR, there is no implication that all religious groups are to be treated equally. If Muslims are supposed to "guide", then it follows that the rest of us are supposed to follow. What if the rest of us do not want to follow, in accordance to Islam's script?
You can also see their strong belief of eventual Muslim world domination in this recent speech by HAMAS leader, Khaled Mash'al in Damascus:
Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing. Apologize today, before remorse will do you no good. Our nation is moving forwards, and it is in your interest to respect a victorious nation.
Of course, the religious belief that Israel will eventually be destroyed runs deep:
http://www.annaqed.com/english/politics/the_tide_may_be_turning.html
The Palestinians need to seek support from their Arab neighbors. We keep hearing from the Muslim propaganda outlets that if given the freedom to build a shari'a-based society, a golden age in the shari'a state of Palestine could be just around the corner. Now they have the freedom and they have the immense wealth of the 22 Arab League member states to show the non-Muslim world once and for all how marvelous such an ideology could be for all Mankind. Now is your chance Palestine. Show us skeptics in the West how wrong we are. We are waiting...
The Palestinian "territories" seem like a giant US College Campus run amok:
They rail against the system which pays for their salaries and living expenses... They tenure the most radical zealots, and install them into inviolate positions. They believe they are beyond reproach, and if criticized, will attack the persons footing their bills and accuse them of every calumny. They aren't expected to deliver more than two/three hours of labor per week in exchange for the massive amounts of money they receive. They don't believe they should account in any way for the massive amounts of money they receive. They are allowed to teach and believe the most insane things without genuine consequences. They refuse to deal with the real world. If they hear that the people footing their bills and salaries want to modify their behavior in any fashion -- we see temper tantrums and rageful demonstrations.
I work hard for my money that the government confiscates from me only to give it to the ungrateful followers of the death cult of islam. Let them eat dirt mixed with oil from arab countries until they decide to crawl out of the 7th century and become productive members of the world. With help of the UN they will never be good neighbors.
Why bother about those who donot give a rat's ass about who and what we are?
The problem of the West is that they think that they have to take care of the poor and the need of the world at the cost of their own people. I don't understand why?
Stop funding these people and these governments. Let the Arabs take care of themselves. Let the oil money be used for some good cause ( of feeding Arab people).
If because of the lack of money, Hamas goverment causes misery in the Palestine... that is a good thing for the rest of the world. Palestinians have to realize that consequences of supporting terrorists is to die hungry. We have to forget about them just as we have forgotten about Darfur.
Interviewer: Mr. Sinokrot, Now that HAMAS has won the election just what are HAMAS' plans to put the people back to work and off the worlds welfare rolls?
Mr. Sinokrot: We will bomb the zionists!
Interviewer: How about plans for rebuilding infrastructure?
Mr. Sinokrot: We will kill the Israelis!
Interviewer: What are you going to do to encourage investment by the worldwide business community?
Mr. Sinokrot: Give us the money or we will kill you.
Interviewer: Any plans to stimulate business?
Mr. Sinokrot: Kill the Infidels!
And so it goes. Time for the US and EU to withdraw completely from the West Bank and Gaza and let the Palestinians have their shariah based golden age of Islam. Maybe they will regress back to the 7th century.
Hamas says pay us or we will continue to be murderers and if Hamas is paid, Hamas will contiue to be murderers.
$$ = Murder
No $$ = Murder
Let 'em starve for a while and see if the offer food for peace would make a difference to Hamas and the Palestinians. Doubtful, for their hate of Israel will not allow the Hamas and the Palestinians to live in peace as long as Israel exists.
The only solution to the Palestinian conflict is utter defeat of Hamas and Palestin and then rebuild Palestin in a peaceful climate.
This has occurred in America with the decrease in the amount of overall crime, because more and more of the criminals are behind bars making it harder for them to commit crimes.
If the bad guys of Hamas can no longer function, then they can no longer commit terror.
The Texican.
Part of the premise for giant aid packages is the theory that if we allow the gap to get too large between the haves and the have nots, then they will hate us to such a degree that we will be threatened. Many clowns on the world stage such as Bono, Clinton and the EU are now agitating for even more aid, and even more supranational NGOs to administer it. They are especially pressuring America to augment our already bulging foreign aid donations.
The first world needs to begin questioning this orthodoxy. The amount of aid distributed to the rest of the world has been steadily growing for 50 years, and is now larger than ever before... At the same time, the problems of the third world appear to have exacerbated, and the Muslim world especially seems to be in the midst of a complete meltdown -- this despite ever expanding aid packages. Furthermore, the flow of unprecedented mountains of cash into the Muslim world is unprecedented, mainly from oil exports. Yet they are more backward, more precarious, and more hateful towards the rest of the world than ever before.
So empirically one can make the argument that while aid and revenue has increased to the third world, third world problems have exacerbated in direct proportion.
The Muslim world shows this dynamic in the extreme. More aid and staggering inflows of revenue -- yet more backwardness, corruption, violence, and all out hatred....
Despite being viciously criticized for not donating similar percentages of GDP as our smiling European 'friends' (who, by the way, spend nearly nothing on their own defense and rely on American tax payers to foot the bill for their protection), America is the largest single donor of foreign aid in the world... And adding insult to injury, if America's gargantuan contributions towards peacekeeping and protection in areas such as Japan, Korea, and Europe are thrown into the mix (the costs to US tax payers is staggering - more than 100 Billion/yr $US for decades...) then America would be not only the largest single donor of foreign aid and assistance, but larger than all other nations combined. Yet isn't it interesting that we appear to be more hated in third world nations than ever before? Isn't it interesting that Europeans and Koreans express such vitriolic contempt for America? And this, despite all the blood and treasure we've expended to salvage their societies, lift them from their self created cesspools of totalitarian horror, and protect them from other totalitarianisms (both of their own creation, or from menacing predators such as China and Russia)? And isn't it interesting that we all appear to be more hated among Muslim nations than ever before?
So does aid and wealth flowing into these third world regions do anything to help them out of their vortex of poverty and corruption? Does aid help us in return by improving our image in those regions?
The Muslim case seems to be the most disturbing. The more money and aid which flows in their direction, the more corrupt and dangerous they become, and the dangers of "blow-back" against the first world rise exponentially ... Hardly a recipe for improvement.
Hamas needs the money to make war. It was ever thus. Money, money, money, makes the world go boom, the world go boom... etc.
The Jizyah -- that is, the payment by Infidels to Muslims, in order to buy a temporary "protection" from Muslims themselves that will cease just as soon as the payment of that Jizyah ceases -- needs to be stopped everywhere.
To be stopped, however, it first needs to be seen as Jizyah, which is exactly what it is but is described as "foreign aid" or "humanitatarian aid." "Humanitaritan aid" goes to those who have suffered some disaster -- drought, say, or tsunami. It is a temporary thing. It is given because the people who receive it will gratefuly take it, use it to get back on their feet (or should), and certainly not pocket it as if by right, from those whose laws, customs, manners they have been instructed since birth to hate, to wish destroyed. That is absurd.
There are many examples of this Jizyah being paid. To Egypt, not our "ally." To Pakistan, not our "ally." To Jordan, not our "ally." Neither the Muslim inhabitnats of Egypt, nor of Pakistan, nor of Jordan, nor of other states that have been receiving the Jizyah, can conceivably suport, be genuinely friendly towards, ultimately wish well, any Infidels. That doesn't mean they don't want to move to the Lands of the Infidels, and in those lands to earn money, to settle in, to behave as no other immigrants voluntarily allowed to settle in histoyr have behaved -- as entitled to transform the societies, in order to remove any barriers to the spread of Islam and the power of Muslims, so that "Islam may domnate and is not to be dominated." This is something a great many people cannot quite understand. They cannot quite figure out how it is that, for example, a few hundred thousand impoverished Somalis, who would seem to be reasonable recipients of visas, turn out to bring with them in their mental baggage an alien and a hostile creed -- a creed hostile, in the first place, to the idea of the worth, and significance, of the individual, and of the rights that, consequently, have been established to protect individuals.
The most egregious and outrageous example of the Jizyah is that which goes to the local Arabs who after 1967 renamed themselves, for clear political reasons (google "Zuheir Mohsen" and "There is no such thing as the Palestnian people" to see what the leader of one of those terror groups admitted in a moment of candor).
It should be stopped. Not only because these people hope, dream, intend sooner or later to wipe out Israel and to seize the Holy Land for Islam. Not only because the way in which Hamas has failed to disguise, when given opportunity after opportuntiy, its clear intent that only a complete fool could fail, at this point, to grasp, and only an antisemite could ignore.
Huge sums are now being paid, all over the Western world, to monitor Muslim communities. Huge sums are being paid for security measures, for guards at churches and synagogues and Hindu temples, for guards at airports and metro stations and bus stations. For guards at every government office building and high-profile target. For monitoring the Internet, for tapping phones, for doing all the things we are now forced to do, and would wish did not have to be done, but from now on out will be, because of the presence of that population that unlike all others, did not jettison that hostility when it arrived. And, indeed, many of those who may have come only with economic improvement in mind have turned out to produce children who, in their inability to adopt or adapt, always seem to
return to Islam -- the full Islam. And that is something we can't tolerate, and should not be asked to.
Meanwhile, Muslim-majority states make up 10 of the 11 members of OPEC. Arab and Muslim states have recieved, for nothing at all, for not a single effort by a single Arab or Muslim, more than $10 trillon dollars since 1973. They have helped to make the entire world more unpleasant, expensive, and dangerous. We have just spent $400 billion trying, trying, trying, to bring some slight decency to Iraq; it will fail, becuase those who were behind this policy, the initial messianism sinking into mere sentimentalism about how "everyone loves freedom" until it finally comes, as it certainly will, a place where the sectarian and ethnic fissures that were not brought or even exacerbated by the Americans (unless one counts the removal of the murderous despot who held things in check through -- murder), but have existed since virtualy the beginning of Islam, simmer, and then perhaps explode.
Let the poor "Palestinians" get no Jizyah. Period. Not from the E.U. Not from the United Stats. Let them go to those fabulously rich fellow members of the umma al-islamiyya, the daggers-and-dishdasha boys in Saudi Arabia, the louche wheeler-dealers of the U.A.E., the real estate moguls, putting up their Persian Gulf versions of Las Vegas-cum-Disneyworld-cum-Rodeo-Drive, givinig the lie to all those who keep telling us that Islam is "unmaterialistic" unlike other religions. No end to this nonsense.
There is no distinction between "humanitarian" aid and other kinds in this case. The aid is meant to sustain a warlike and violent group of people who at this point cannot be transformed, but can be weakened, can be made to work merely to survive so that there will be no time whatsoever for fun-and-games with black balaclavas and kalashnikovs/.
Make them beg from the Saudis. Make them go to work. Make them leave the area in search of work elsewhere, the way people have done since the beginning of time, and the way some of their ancestors, who arrived earlier in this century from Iraq and Egypt, or those who arrived in the last century with the veterans of Abd el Kader and Mehmet Ali, or were transplanted by the Ottomans from Muslim villages in Europe, did. Only this time in reverse.
There are many people worthy of charity. Bolivian Indians. Black Africans in the Sudan and Congo. Hindus being murdered in Bangaldesh. The Arab Muslims, all or any of them, the recipients of the greatest unearned transfer of wealth in human history, are not among them.
Stop the Jizyah. And put whatever money is saved into solar and wind energy projects, and whatever else comes fittingly to mind.
What a glorious rant! Hugh Al-akhbar!
"more than $40 million released by the World Bank"
And who is the head honcho at that Anti-American organization? Why, Mr. uber-neocon, Paul Wolfowitz.
He is as clever with money as he was with that Democratization spread thing.
Have I got this right: not only have western countries for decades been supporting Palestinians, but even supporting them to the extent that they have decided to substantially increase their population size.
Even people who think they have a right to form Palestine must surely see that they should certainly not have increased their population size during this period of difficulty and uncertainty? Surely 2 children per woman is enough when you have no resources?
"Surely 2 children per woman is enough when you have no resources?"
Why a limit of two? -- this would impede war production.
"We're bankrupt," Mr. Sinokrot said bluntly in an interview on Thursday in his Ramallah office. "The world can't abandon us. It's in no one's interest, not for Israel or anyone, to have the P.A. public sector collapse. To increase unemployment this way would be a message of violence, not of peace."
My response to the plight of the Palestinians: "let them eat cake".It's been said that the Palestinians never miss and opportunity to miss an opportunity.Their election of Hamas is yet another missed opportunity.They knew exactly who they were electing when they elected Hamas so let them live with the consequences of that choice.I had a chance to watch the Congressional hearings on C-Span on aid to the Palestinians and two democartic congressmen said as exactly that. I was so impressed by these two representatives I wrote down their names.Rep. Eliot Engel D-NY read portions of Hamas' hateful charter at the hearing and had the information entered into the Congressional record.He noted that the US could in no way deal with a goverment lead by such a group. Rep. Shelley Berkeley D-Nevada said that humanitraian aid was a distinction without a difference and that Palestinians should not be shielded from the consequences of their actions.Hopefully Congress will move to cut off all aid including "humanitarian" aid that the US is giving Palestinians.We gain nothing from helping Palestinians since aid money only seems to make them more violent and hateful. Better to let them help themselves.
We hear all the time how important the Palestinians are to their Arab and Muslims brothers. Now is the time for Arabs and Muslims everywhere to come to the aid of the Palestinians. It will be interesting to see how long Muslims are willing to help a people who do nothing to help themselves.
Here is what happens when Islamic arrogance is short of financial backing.
Oh ~ My Arab Brothers!
Why have ye forsaken thee!
The other Arabs expect the Palestinians to fight a war ‘to the end’ against Israel/The West, but the reality of this ‘holy’ war, once you pull the covers off looks quite different; as it is the Infidels and Jews who are keeping this Islamic/Palestinian nation afloat!
I’m sorry but the Palestinian Authority (PA) doesn’t deserve anymore money. Most importantly, the world is paying the price of the British government’s post World War 1 decision of not living up to its obligations. The real joke is that today’s western powers are giving into Arab aggression, Islamic greed and tribal hegemony.
After World War 1, the Allies devised a methodology in order to legalize and legitimize their rights to dissolve the Ottoman Empire. Some of the more contentious areas of the world that Imperial England and France wanted to retain were Syria (which in included the yet improvised region of Lebanon), Palestine (which was not yet broken up into west and east Palestine) and Mesopotamia (which became Iraq). Islamic greed to make Syria some sort of new Muslim nation caused the Christian minority big headaches. The French, under pressure to protect the Christian population in Syria created the region of Lebanon. This region was lopped off of French mandated Syria in order to protect the rights of the Christian minority in a land that was dominated by Muslims. Lebanon was carved out in order to create a piece of land where the Christians were the majority—what a joke! Lebanon today is exactly what pre-carved up French mandated Syria looked like in post World War 1. Today, the Muslims majority spilled over from Syria, these Islamists ended up destroying a modern westernized nation and were the primary cause for the civil war in the 1970’s and 1980’s. It was the fault of all these fractious Islamic groups that first went to war with the Christians and then went to war with themselves.
This is the legacy of Arab tribalism and was later passed on by etiology of Muhammadism. Long before Muhammad, the deserts of Arabia were inhabited by a bunch of squabbling, illiterate, pagan tribes that were constantly at a state of war with other another. There were no such concepts such as diplomacy or learning to share the very scarce resources that were available to these Arabians. That’s why only one or two tribes back then were very wealthy and everyone else was literally dirt poor. These tribes fought over camels, livestock, water (wells and oases), land, women, etc. The law of the land was ‘to the victor goes the spoils’ and if you lost in battle, well…you became either a slave or a pauper (you had your freedom but you lost all your possessions to the victorious tribe(s) that fought you).
Back in those times, if your tribe was a weaker tribe your only hope was to make alliances and verbal treaties with the stronger tribes. So if the stronger tribe(s) won in battle, they would take all the booty and then divide it up among its allies. So that’s how smaller tribes remained intact, through the strategic planning of choosing what side to back in battle. This is exact same strategy that Muhammad would use to expand his newly minted tribe called the Muslims. It wasn’t until Muhammad’s death that the Koran was written so during his lifetime, all that Muslims had to go on was what Muhammad said. Muhammad heard voices in his head and everything he told his followers was from Gabriel (an angel representing Allah). So a Muslim back then had 2 options, one was to believe that Muhammad was the prophet of Allah or two—not believe in Muhammad. If you believed in Muhammad then you needed bother with thinking, you just kept reciting everything that Muhammad said. And you did whatever Muhammad did even if it didn’t make any sense, so if he told you to bow down and pray to a rock in a tent (the Kaaba)—you did it. If you took the second option of starting out as a Muslim but then realized Muhammad was insane and you didn’t want to comply with everything he said, then you were labeled as an apostate and were killed (by the compliant Muslims).
Muhammad’s legacy after his death led to a schism between his followers because there could only be one almighty Islamic leader. Muhammad led by example, that the nation of Islam can’t be a house divided and that there can only be one caliph for the tribe of Muslims. But after Muhammad’s death, a fracture occurred between whom should have been the next caliph, the Shiite claimed that Ali should have been the first successor but he was the fourth. The first three were Abu Bakr, Omar and then Othman; the argument originally arose between Aisha (Muhammad’s child bride who was 6 years old and was 9 years old when she had sexual intercourse) and Muhammad’s daughter Fatima. The problem of succession lay in who had the right to lead after Muhammad, should it be Ali (the husband of Fatima) or should it go to Abu Bakr (the father of Aisha). This is a problem worth dying for? This is a problem worth fighting over? The Sunnis backed Abu Bakr so who cares? Both men are long gone and so is Muhammad, why should any sane person want to carry on the practices of an insane person. The Koran died as soon as Muhammad did, as long as he lived and spouted off sayings from Allah, the Muslims repeated what he said.
This is what most people don’t understand, the Koran was just a bunch of Muhammadisms that his followers repeated over and over again. It wasn’t until after his death that all these saying were written down and put into book form, which was called the Koran. The Koran is not written in any chronology order, it’s just broken down into 114 different Surahs (chapters) with 6,236 verses and the Surahs are in order of biggest (most verses in them) to smallest (to the fewest number of verses in them). Excuse me but what kind of book is this? You have a leader who rambles on and on during his entire life, no followers ever write down a word Muhammad says during his lifetime, they just are told to just keep reciting everything that Muhammad tells them he hears from Allah. Then once he dies, all these sayings are written down by a variety of people (based entirely from memory not from the horses’ mouth—Muhammad) and then all these saying are broken down into incoherent chapters, which then are placed in descending order by volume of text. OK—what the hell kind of religion is this supposed to be?
If you read the Koran, you’ll see that it’s just a bunch of ramblings from an insane person. There’s no context of why he’s saying what he’s saying, when in his life are each of these Surahs are taking place, it’s just bunch of useless speeches. I could do the same thing with any mental patient in an insane asylum. I could record everything uttered from an insane guy throughout his life, type it up, try to make chapters based on subjects and then bind it as a book with the chapters descending in order by volume. Do you see how utterly stupid this is? How in the world can you make head or tails of this crap? Without any form of context of this insane person’s life, for example he just said the following after being tied down to his bed. Or when he first was admitted to the hospital after killing a family of 5, he first uttered the following. Or ten years into his stay in the asylum after seeing his mother who visited him for a total of 15 minutes he said the following. Or after 25 years into his sentence at the loony bin having just tried to stab to death a nurse, he shouted out the following. Do you see what I mean, without any context, just recording a bunch of utterances said by Muhammad without any chronological references to refer to and by further placing it in order by the most words spoken on a subject to the least—it’s all useless. If any modern-day author attempted to write this sort of book today, no publisher would even print it!
The Koran isn’t a valid form of ‘being on the record’ regarding reporting an individual’s comments. You can’t just say Mr. Black said this and that and the other without any context. Who was Mr. Black talking to when he said this? What was he doing at the time he said that? What was his attitude towards this individual in the past and what made him get angry this time? Was Mr. Black justified in his position? What was the position(s) of the other party and did they have a valid point? Has Mr. Black acted this way towards others under the same circumstances and if so, who were they and what is their side of the story? You get my point, with our modern-day standards of reporting, a person trying to sell the Koran as a manuscript would be laughed at by every publisher he/she would try to visit. The Koran is an absolute useless tool for understanding Muhammad, his context as a man and further, any person trying to form a religion based on these rambling verses has to be the world’s biggest ass!
OK, now so far you understand that the Koran is absolute meaningless and that the worst of Arabian tribalism was adopted by Muhammad through his unlimited autocratic rule. It was his domineering structured personality coupled with his psychotic paranoia that led him to kill all those who didn’t want to believe he was Allah’s one and only prophet, this is what made him a dangerous man. In today’s society, if he were alive, he would be dangerous psychopathic global terrorist. He would be hell bent on creating his own cult of followers, restricting his flock on what they can and can’t eat, drink, wear, who they can have sexual relations with, etc. He would be telling them that a greater reward awaits them in heaven and that it’s completely permissible to lie, cheat, steal, kill and even use weapons of mass destruction on the unbelievers. However, Muhammad doesn’t need to be alive today because his mass of followers are already doing that and more, they’ve even begun fighting among themselves in order to claim the ultimate prize—that of being the purest form of Islam!
And see that’s exactly why Islam hasn’t been able to progress because first you must believe without question that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet. Unless you believe without question Muhammad is Allah’s prophet and there is no other God other than Allah then first and foremost you deserve death! Second if you believe the first premise than you must follow everything else Muhammad did like bow down to a rock 5 times a day. And where did he get this knowledge? Why in a mystical dream where he flew to the farthest mosque (which his followers interpret as Jerusalem) and saw who, get this—Jews! This is why his so-called dream is full of crap, Muhammad co-ops just a few things he’s heard from Arabians Jews and spun it into this story.
Muhammad followers’ claim that he flew to Jerusalem on a magical horse named Buraq. The angel Gabriel opened up heaven and he and Muhammad ascended a ladder and stopped at 7 different levels of heaven. In the first heaven there was Adam, in the second heaven there was Jesus & John (and George, Paul, Ringo—just kidding), in the third heaven there was Joseph, in the fourth heaven there was Enoch, in the fifth heaven there was Aaron, in the sixth heaven there was Moses and finally in the seventh heaven there was Abraham. Then Muhammad saw Allah and he was instructed to pray to this God 50 times a day! Then Muhammad started to descend down the ladder but he didn’t talk with Abraham, he talked with Moses! Moses was horrified that Allah asked him to pray 50 times a day, Moses told Muhammad to try to go back to Allah and bargain with him to reduce that amount. So Muhammad did exactly that and Allah reduced the number of prayers to 40 times a day. Then Muhammad met Moses again, Moses yet again told Muhammad that 40 times a day was still too much to endure, so Muhammad went back up to negotiate with Allah again. This silly negotiation process went on back and forth until Muhammad got down to 5 prayers a day.
That’s the crux of Muhammad’s night journey, OK so now are you going to tell me that the Muslims own the Temple Mount in Jerusalem because of that dream? Also Muhammad is part of the nation of Ishmael, why didn’t he see any and/or all of Ishmael’s family lineage? Other than Jesus & John who are part of the New Testament story, all the rest of the people Muhammad claims to have seen are in the Jewish Torah. By the way, Muhammad is so ignorant of Judaism that he calls Jews the ‘people of the book’. What book, it has a name it’s called the Torah but Muhammad doesn’t even know that much! He never even once names any of the five chapters of the Torah, all he knows is a few scants names and ideas about Judaism and that’s it! Muhammad claims he saw Abraham, his two sons were Ishmael and Isaac but he didn’t see either one of them. Isaac had two sons, Esau and Jacob; Muhammad didn’t see either of them (probably because he doesn’t know this much). Before I go on, the irony of ironies is after this, Muhammad claims to see other descents of Jacob but it’s Jacob who God renames as Israel (Genesis 35:10). Jacob has 12 sons: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Dan, Naphtali, Joseph and Benjamin. Muhammad only claims to have seen Joseph, could it be because he knows a bit about Joseph’s story and his rise to prominence in Egypt? Muhammad claims to have seen Moses and his brother Aaron, once again the irony is that they are from the tribe of Levi. Thus since Moses and Aaron are descendants from the tribe of Levi, that makes them part of the nation of Israel! Also Muhammad claims he saw Jesus and John, obviously he knows a scant bit about that story as well but both these men are Jews! Not only that but Christians claim that Jesus’ father, Joseph’s lineage goes back to the house of Judah (also another one of Israel’s sons).
The other two people Muhammad claimed to have met along his journey to heaven were Adam and Enoch. Well again he knows something but not much about the Torah, Muhammad claims to have seen the first man, Adam but then absurdly says he saw the obscure Enoch. Which if you read Genesis chapter 5, there are plenty of names listed from the line of Adam, probably Muhammad heard that name in passing and thought that Enoch was an important biblical figure. Enoch is no more impressive than for instance Seth or Enosh or Kenan or Mahalalel or Jared or Methuselah—understand! Muhammad is just co-opting biblical names in Judaism and Christianity in order to sound official but he just sounds crazy by just listing off these names! Not only that but Muhammad states that all these people are Muslims!
Listen Muhammad you made up Islam, you sound absolutely loony by saying that all these people are Muslim. Especially when you’re trying to contradict God, the nation of Islam isn’t equal to the nation of Israel. Joseph, Moses, Aaron are all direct descendants from the nation of Israel (Jacob) plus Jesus and John are Jews as well. You sound crazy when you say all these people are Muslims! Plus you sound crazy when you claim you saw Allah and had to bargain with him to lower the amount of prayers you need to perform on a daily basis. Firstly, if Allah is all knowing, why did he even originally insist on you praying to him 50 times a day? What is he, some kind of super idiot? Also Allah wants you to bow down to him 5 times a day but if you really saw Moses, why didn’t Moses warn you not to bow down or serve any other Gods? Because Moses came down from Mount Sinai with the 10 commandments and in Exodus 20:5, it explicitly warns not to bow down nor serve any other Gods! How can Muhammad reconcile this fact and say that Moses helped him talk Allah down to bowing down to this new God 5 times a day.
OK, so how can Muslims honestly follow Muhammad and want to kill Jews when all the people Muhammad saw in his night journey dream were figures from the Jewish Torah minus Jesus & John who are Jews as well! The Nation of Israel, that’s the generations from Jacob are promised by God in the Torah the land of Israel, so how can that be true and at the same time Allah wants Muhammad to kill the Jews and take their land? The two stories don’t mesh and the only way out of this debacle is by Muhammad claiming that the Jews and the Christians received the same word from God but their versions are corrupt. Muhammad and today’s modern-day Muslims say that Muhammad’s Koran is perfect and it’s everyone else that is wrong! Again, I explained to you how enormously bad the Koran is as any form recording Muhammad’s words, without a contextual base it’s relatively useless as any sort of meaningful historical document. So how does Muhammad’s Koran trump the Torah? Just because Muhammad claims he saw both Old and New Testament biblical figures in a dream, it doesn’t mean much if his logic to back up this dream is flawed.
I say it’s Muhammad’s Koran that is flawed and not the Torah. If Moses brought down the 10 commandments and one of the laws tells him not to bow down to other Gods, then why would he tell Muhammad that it’s OK to bow down 5 times a day to Allah. Not only that but why wouldn’t Moses tell Muhammad that it’s wrong to bow down to a rock (the black stone housed in the Kaaba)? How can Muslims feel justified in wanting to kill Jews and destroy the nation of Israel (not just the state but the entire people spawning from the generations from Jacob)? It doesn’t make sense that Iran and Hamas to just name a few who wish to replace the state of Israel with an Islamic state. The two Gods, that which spoke to Jacob and that which spoke to Muhammad can be the one and the same—it’s absolutely impossible! The God of Israel gave this nation laws and a land, while Allah gave Muhammad a bunch of incoherent ramblings that included instructions that were the polar opposite of the 10 commandments. Muhammad justifies his logic by stating that the Jews and Christians holy books are corrupted but mine are perfect! Since the
Torah and Muhammad are at complete odds with each other; the people of the world can only back one version—take your pick!
So now returning back to the British and the Palestinian mandate after World War 1, the British were planning on making this entire region the Jewish Commonwealth in Palestine under British protection. But then the British double crossed their Arab allies the Hashemites and allowed the Saudis to run roughshod all across Arabia. If you’ve ever seen the movie Lawrence of Arabia, the part Omar Sharif plays is that of a Hashemite leader and it was that tribe which was influential in bringing on board other Arabian tribes to attack the Turks. The Hashemites supposedly are descendants in the tribal line from Muhammad and they had been ruling Mecca for hundreds of years. But after World War 1 the British government slightly backed off and looked the other way when the Saudis from eastern portion of Arabia invaded the western portion of the country. The Saudis backed by their religious muscle the Wahhabis captured Mecca and taking a page from Muhammad’s notorious inflexibility of it’s all or nothing; refused to share power with the Hashemites and promptly kicked them out of the country.
The British who had the mandate of Palestine and Mesopotamia decided to just give the exiled Arabian clan land (that didn’t belong to them) as a form of compensation payment. The British were saying, well gee we’re really sorry for not coming to your rescue but here, we’ll give you all of Mesopotamia and 80% of Palestine would you like that? So an Arabian clan now had a kingdom not as big as Arabia but it was pretty damn generous, the Hashemites were given the land from the Jordan River all the way over to the western boarder of Iran! Now everyone was miserable, the Iraqis hated having the Hashemite family imposed on them and the eastern Palestinians hated their Hashemites rulers as well. The Hashemite King and all his immediate relatives were murdered in 1958 during an Iraqi military coup, however the world remains stuck with the Hashemites left in eastern Palestine. This land wasn’t given to the British after World War 1 so that they could hand it off to an Arabian ally.
As a result of the Arab population’s anger, the Hashemites in order to defuse some pressure kicked out all the Jews from eastern Palestine. Then they created their own mythical Hashemite nation and renamed it Jordan. Now the Jews only had 20% left of the original British mandated region of Palestine. But once again in order to appease the growing anger of the Arabs the world via the United Nations illegal cantonized the remaining land into a mishmash of Jewish and Arab land. The ironic part was that in the Jewish areas the Jews told the local Arab population that they could remain but in the Arab portions the local Jews were kicked out reminiscent of what the Hashemites did in eastern Palestine. But rather then accept this crazy U.N. partition of western Palestine, all the Arab countries went to war in an attempt to destroy the state of Israel.
This is the same exact state the Middle East has been in since that time, the wars of 1967 and 1973 were again attempts to destroy the tiny Jewish nation. And before the so-called plight the Arab Palestinians, before the war of 1967 Egypt held the Gaza and the West Bank was held by Jordan. In both areas the local Jewish population was kicked out and all Jewish synagogues were destroyed! But there was no cry from the Arab world to create an Arab Palestinian state and ironically the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) was formed in 1964! It was founded in Egypt and not by Yasir Arafat but by the Arab League in order to harass the Jewish State through terrorism. It had absolutely nothing in common with founding an Arab Palestinian State in the West Bank and Gaza because these lands were completely Jew free! It was only after the 1967 war when Israel captured these lands that the Gaza and the West Bank also became an added cause for the PLO. Yasir Arafat was just an obscure little Egyptian until he became the leader of the entire PLO in 1968.
The real reason why the Arab world hasn’t been pushing for the PLO to run eastern Palestine is that this terrorist organization was just a means to an end. The end was the destruction of the Jewish State, Arafat knew that and this was the reason why he couldn’t accept a peace agreement with the Israelis. The PLO was a joke; it was formed to harass the Jews, it wasn’t meant to become a governing body. Arafat knew that from day one his goal was to destroy the Jewish State and when that was done, the more powerful Arab countries would move in to control things. But the plan went haywire when the western world actual thought by giving into these Arab demands for land that would bring about peace. Arafat had to give in and look like he was making progress but when push came to shove he couldn’t accept any peace proposal! Most western pundits blamed Israel for not giving more concessions or not giving up the West Bank in total but the truth was that Arafat was told not to accept any offer. The truth will come out eventually that Egypt especially couldn’t accept half measures, they don’t want peace—they never have and never will because they need Israel destroyed! The PLO was established to try to harass the Jewish State when the Arabs already had the Gaza and the West Bank.
It was a joke when Arafat had the easy job of the leader of the PLO but when he became the leader of the western-backed Palestinian Authority; the Arab nations that once sponsored this terrorist organization stopped caring. Understand that the western nations became the ultimate useful idiots and swallowed the PLO propaganda about land for peace. So when the west became serious and took up the PLO’s offer, Arafat panicked because this wasn’t part of his job title. Despite all the pomp and ceremonies that took place in the western world, the Arabs were telling Arafat don’t accept any offers no matter how good they sound! The Arab countries that originally backed the PLO needed and still need this conflict to deflect anger and blame back in their home nations. When the PLO became the PA, all those Arab backers suddenly stopped giving because they didn’t want peace! Arafat was given all the money he ever needed in the world to start a peaceful and reasonable modest economic model of efficiency. But how could he do anything different than Egypt, a nation that actually made a technical peace with Israel. The game worked, Israel gave up the Sinai Desert but Egypt didn’t change its society in any way, shape or form. The Egyptians still sponsored statewide anti-Semitism via schools, newspapers, TV, radio, and sanctioned imams in mosques. While all the while still covertly planning the destruction of the State of Israel by weapons smuggling into Gaza and by funding terrorism.
When the west took the PLO seriously and forced them into the embarrassingly mismanaged PA, Egypt starting looking to fund a new PLO and that was Hamas! The PA just took the west’s money, they could have built a decent society but they just mirrored Egyptian society. Money was spent on cronyism rather than economic building and anti-Semitism was pushed via schools, newspapers, TV, radio, and sanctioned imams in mosques. The PA knew they weren’t allowed to improve the lives of the average Arab because that wasn’t part of the plan. Despite what the world still thinks it knows, the PA still was thinking long range in how to destroy Israel and handing over the reins of power to the Egyptians! Despite what the former PA players tell the English speaking world, they were still accountable to Egypt. The PA didn’t want to run a country; their orders were to run it into the ground but to have fun while doing it! Their only job was to make sure that poverty still remained for the majority of the population, to blame Israel for their problems and to spend on funding terrorism and widespread anti-Semitism.
The reason why the PA was so upset about their loss to Hamas is that they were supposed to do a lousy job but still remain in power. Hamas just wanted to be in the position of the old PLO but it wasn’t the west that took them serious, it was the average Arab. Now not only are the former PA players screwed but so is Egypt because Hamas is being funded in part by the Muslim Brotherhood. This is a radical Islamic group that not only wants to destroy Israel but wants to replace the corrupt Egyptian government with an Islamic theocracy. The Egyptians could rely on the former PLO players to be accountable to them but now Hamas is becoming more accountable to Iran! Now things are becoming truly religious motivated rather than politically inspired which frightens the Egyptians because the PLO was basically made of old diehard Arab nationalists. These guys barely went to a mosque and prayed but it’s a different ballgame with groups like Hamas, Hizballah and Islamic Jihad to name a few. These groups represent the destruction of the old ways of Pan Arab secular nationalism and wish to bring in one immense super state that will be run by a caliphate.
But as I have outlined regarding Muhammadism, this religion is truly evil because it absolutely contradicts the Jewish Torah. Muhammad basis of fact lies only in his hearing of voices and that the only way he can rationalize his philosophy is that the Jews have corrupted the truth! But excuse me Muhammad, your truth is that it’s all right to bear false witness if it suits the advancement of Islam. It’s all right to covet (envy) you neighbor’s possessions, kill, steal and rape (& commit adultery) as long as it’s done in the name of Allah and these transgressions are done against the infidels! You mention nothing of honoring parents but you say it’s OK to martyr oneself in Jihad, it doesn’t matter if you hurt your parents in the process…I guess?
And what about the big no-no’s like not having any other Gods, not bow down to them or how about what’s written in Leviticus 26:1; “Ye shall make you no idols, neither shall ye rear you up a graven image, or a pillar, neither shall ye place any figured stone in your land, to bow down unto it; for I am the LORD your God.” How can Muhammad justify bowing not just once a day but 5 times a day to the Kaaba that houses a rock? Oh, yes he claims that in a flight of fantasy he went to Jerusalem, ascended up a ladder to heaven spotting various biblical figures from the Old & New Testament and then negotiated a prayer arranged with Allah (and with a little help from Moses). But I’m sorry that just doesn’t make any sense nor does your logic regarding your voices telling you that your information is correct while Judaism and Christianity have the same knowledge but it’s a corrupt version—this form of reasoning doesn’t make a lick of good sense!
So as I say I’m sorry but the Palestinian Authority (PA) doesn’t deserve anymore money because firstly out of shear Arab aggression (whether politically and/or religiously motivated) Israel has always been targeted for destruction. Secondly, due to Arabian tribal hegemony the Saudi tribe wanted the entire country of Arabia for itself and refused to share its spoils with the Hashemites. They kicked out the Hashemites and as a result, the Hashemites displaced the Jews in eastern Palestine. And because of Islamic greed, Hamas is now in power of the PA and refuses to recognize Israel. But Islam is the creation of just one man’s imagination and unfortunately his thoughts are in direct violation of God’s basic laws for all of humanity. It was the nation of Israel that received those laws but it these precepts that are commonplace among all civilized people and nations! My personal opinion is that God is cursing those people and nations that practice Islam due to its oxymoronic nature that is irreconcilable with the laws laid out in the Torah!
Finally, anyone who tries to practice Islam is ultimately the loser because this religion is purely an Arabian invention. It forces the worshipper to pray in Arabic regardless of his/her native language. It forces the worshipper to take sides in an ongoing, stupid and totally futile family feud between Aisha and Fatima. It forces the believer to look down upon those people who don’t follow his/her religion. It teaches the believer to honor the ancient hatred towards Christians and Jews, regardless if you’ve ever seen a Jew in your region of the world as in Southern Asian for instance. It forces the believer into absolute intolerance for others who might question the validity of Muhammad’s views. It requires the worshipper to travel to Mecca once in his/her lifetime to pray to this giant cube (the Kaaba). Again the worshipper is once again getting caught up in Arabian pagan rituals which in reality should bear no significance to anyone living outside of Arabia.
Why is it so important to worshippers to keep reciting Muhammadism that have no relationship to modern life? Why must you cover up women? Why must you blame Jews for everything? Why must you bow down towards a tent 5 times a day that has a rock in it? Why must you be compelled to break up the world into only 2 parts, believers and infidels? Why must you not question the wisdom of Muhammad? There are so many whys in the life of a Muslim but there is only one true answer and that is you don’t have to anything other than leave this awful ill-gotten religion. It’s based on only one person’s thoughts, stop making Muhammad out to be a saint and really begin to see his thought patterns for what they truly are based upon. What kind of world do you want to live in that justifies greed, jealously, lying, envy, torture, rape, theft, murder, intolerance, hatred, misogynist and a whole litany of many other anti-social behavioral misdeeds.
So if you ask me if I care if the newly Hamas led PA is nearly bankrupt, my answer is you’re damn right I care—I want it to sink into the toilet! But not only that I want Muslims to wake up and really smell the Koran, they’ve packed their nostrils up so much with the cotton of denial that they can’t smell the truth of the rotting egg they’ve got held in their hands!
Good Night & Good Luck!
I don't want us to sponsor the Palestinian government, especially not with my money. They are threatening with war and murder and do exactly as they please disrespecting the people who are supposed to pay for them. I don't care what happens to them, if they are bankrupt or starve. As long as I don't have to pay for these murdering muslim-fanatics!
odin, king of gods -- thank you for your response. I'm sure most Americans like myself would feel a lot better about Europe if we thought you were true allies, and not just ungrateful anti-American complainers. I'm fully aware that this hardly describes all Europeans, just the majority of their Press and Media, the majority of Europe's leadership, and the majority of her intellectuals and elites...
When you say something like "The reason why Europe isn't investing heavily in it's military is because there isn't any strong and visible enemy with a big conventional army or WMD's like the Soviet Union had. Anti-terrorism doesn't need giant military budgets" it only increases my misgivings about our European "allies"....
First -- I never suggested that giant conventional armament is necessarily the answer -- The US Military is currently engaged in a radical transformation from traditional to unconventional tactics -- but size does matter, my friend. Europe has no credible forces, conventional or otherwise to counter terrorism -- that is unless you accept the bankrupt notion which Europe has adhered to that counter-terrorism is a largely legal affair. This is the exact kind of fatal misidentification which has landed the Europeans in the horrific mess they find themselves in today.
Second -- your self-assurance regarding the necessity or lack for "giant military budgets" would be far more convincing if Europe had a better track record at preventing global horrors than it has. The 20th Century is REPLETE with European failures to grapple with growing threats -- and even when those threats have directly menaced Europe's very existence, we have seen European leaders and the polity fail to confront matters. WW1, WW2, and the Cold war were largely European affairs, with Europe being the primary theater, though the scope was global... Europeans have a lousy track record at recognizing and effectively countering the horrors in her midst. Need I name the long infamous list?
Further -- you seem to be blithely unaware of the current Iranian affair -- how can you be so sure that a robust conventional force under European control and marshalled only for European self interests wouldn't help make your pathetic attempts at "diplomacy" sound more convincing to those terror addicted maniacs in Tehran?
Europe would be taken far more seriously if she were seen to be far more serious about her convictions... It's as simple as that. When you negotiate from weakness rather than strength, you're bound to make bad deals... Or has history and human nature really stopped evolving -- has Europe finally transcended millions of years of evolution and instinct -- is history really over and we've finally seen the end of war just because the Europeans say it's so?
I guess such things make sense in a post - modern deconstructivist there-is-no-objective-truth kind of way...
And when old-think canards are trotted out such as : "The american economy is highly militarized and in a way the american military and industrial complex lives as a parasite on the american foreign policy and ultimately, on the american taxpayer. " I can only laugh. Despite the staggering sums involved, US Military spending is much closer to the all time low for the last 6 decades -- and only approaches 4% of GDP. Compare this with Cold War or Vietnam era spending which sometimes approached 15% of GDP. Then, perhaps, your tired out marxist canard made more sense, but not today.
Further I would say to you and any other trotter out of said canards: Note how affluent America and Americans are during periods such as 1991-2000 when no war appeared to be imminent (although we now know we should have been more prepared...) Our economic numbers were staggering! Our economy and our gains in terms of wealth were unprecedented -- so both corporate America, and the average American -- both recognize how much better off our nation is in times of peace and stability. Why do you think our foreign policy has been so focused on stability in the ME for 60 years (right or wrong) ? It's because we do so much better as a nation when the world is at peace than when the world is at war. For any anti-American bigot who wishes to smear my country by suggesting that we are some kind of militaristic automaton bent on world turmoil and war, I'd say: GET A CLUE! -- nothing could be further from the truth -- and such slanders only entrench my conviction that you don't know what you're talking about in the larger sphere as well.
If you and other Europeans are so wrong, both in your assessments and in your conclusions about America (your supposed cultural and economic ally) -- then what does it say about the reliability of your assessments and conclusions regarding your enemies?
Let's have this discussion again in 15-20 years -- let's see how "correct" Europe's response has been to the latest fascism proliferating in her neighborhood yet again.
Further -- as if to bolster my assertion above about Europe's lack of conventional means to reinforce her policies -- Think of Mr. Chirac's recent threat to use Nuclear retaliation if attacked...
Talk about a reactionary pronouncement! Why resort to such bellicose over-the-top threats (sounding suspicously like UBL or Ahmadinijad, by the way) unless you had nothing short of that to make yourself feared and respected? If the terror war will require unconventional means for victory, and if the Europeans only have NUKES as an unconventional countermeasure -- that doesn't leave a whole lot of wiggle room, does it? No room to maneuver, no room for modulation -- no room for victory without a stark binary game of brinksmanship --
This was a terrible revelation of France's incapacity to wage war against the terrorists. If you fail to see this for what it is, or the fact that all you possess is "soft power" against a ruthless heartless hate filled foe -- then you are in for some extremely rude awakenings...
Wow odin, king of gods -- You may wish to reconsider your obsession with American Arms sales -- and rethink the anti-American suppositions which support it... It wasn't hard to find the Wikipedia listing you used to support your opinion about the "good business" of American Arms sales... I wouldn't always count on it for accuracy, but in this case it isn't far off the mark -- it agrees with a scholarly article in the New York Times which places US global arms sales at roughly between $15-20 Billion between 1996 and 2003 -- so your number is close enough.
http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/intervention/2004/0830armsmkt.htm
Now let's examine your assertions that "Military sales account for about 18 percent of the national budget, far and away the greatest proportion of any other nation, making it the countrys single biggest export."
and
"Some say American governments cannot reduce arms sales because of the consequent fall in GDP."
According to ANY reliable source, the US GDP is roughly a staggering $12,500,000,000,000. (That's 12.5 Trillion Dollars)... Even taking the high end of your number for international arms sales of $20,000,000,000, such a number represents a mere .16 % of total GDP! That's not 16%, not 1.6% -- that's .16% of our GDP, sir. Roughly half of one quarter of one percent -- Infinitessimal! Your math, your antique assumptions, and your inferences from those assumptions are so totally wrong, so totally false, and so totally laughable that they are, well laughable.
But thanks for repeating one of the most often repeated smears and distortions about America and her character and motivations by her innumerable detractors! I'm glad I could set the FACTS out, and set you straight. Perhaps you'll tell all your friends?
This trivial number -- .16% isn't sufficient to make anyone in America notice -- just for comparison -- The American economy generates triple that $20 Billion export number every single day, 365 days a year -- it would only take 8 hours for America to make up the difference if all military exports were stopped... hardly something anyone would notice.
Thank you odin -- I won't rub it in. But I am sincere when I say if you re-examine other anti-American slurs, which are nearly all promoted by our venomous leftist detractors who use such exaggerations to slander America and paint America as a warmongering tyrant, perhaps you'll also reconsider some of the other conclusions you've been spoon fed by your anti-American leftist press? I know you're anti-Jihad -- so I know you have good sense -- upon examination, perhaps some of your simple anti-American conclusions drawn from world events may not actually stand up to honest scrutiny?
Start with Libya's Gaddafi and Reagan's attack against him. Even after that attack, which almost wiped out this arch terrorist's family, it took him fully nearly 20 years and the destruction of Saddam Hussein before he 'saw the light' and ceased his aspirations for nuclear weapons... He is responsible for many many terrorist deaths, and constant corruption in the Arab and African parts of the world. Do you honestly think that the attack in 1986, and the Dec 15, 2003 capture of Saddam (our US military's supposed "constant interference") had nothing to do with his capitulation and the surrender of his clandestine nuclear projects?!? These nasty problems just don't go away by wishing them away -- and they don't go away by pretending that softer measures are effective.
Odin -- I also strongly suggest you read Mr. Spencer's interview regarding the Crusades:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010582.php#more
Your accusations that "the US is militarized, not only because of the money spend on the military but also due to the constant interference in other countries affairs with military means that has been going on for decades now" sounds to me like you're accusing us of being modern Crusaders (just as the Muslims and leftist anti-American haters do... hmmm) In so doing, you saddle us in your mind with all the baggage such an accusation would imply -- note the similarity between such anti-American accusations and those discussed by Mr. Spencer which the Muslims use to demoralize the West, and agitate their minions to despise us?
The USA needs to see some clarity from her allies in Europe... We need allies in our FIGHT together against this Islamic onslaught -- Yet many in Europe, perhaps including yourself, seem to believe you live in a world where either there are no fights, or you can sit idly by and criticize America for waging them, criticize her for her methods, or just sit there and criticize based on faulty premises.
As a European, I respectfully submit that YOU need to have some clarity regarding the threats that face your continent. You face an existential battle with enemies who wish to destroy you, and who are waging war in every region of Europe, not to mention the world. While Europe rivets her attentions on an inaccurate view of an American Hegemon, one which she needlessly fears and loaths, she is being eaten alive by a remorseless hatred filled enemy -- Islam.
Don't do what I say for my sake. Do it for yours! Do it for the sake of the Western Heritage we share, for the legacy you were entrusted with by your ancestors. That is, if you think it's worth protecting and saving.
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