Nobody seems to have grasped the absurdity of an apology in Old Kampala for cartoons printed in a free and independent newspaper in Denmark -- not by representatives of the paper, of course. From the Monitor Online, with thanks to Twostellas:
THE Danish Ambassador, Mr Stig Barlyng, yesterday met Muslim leaders and apologised for the publication of cartoons ridiculing Prophet Muhammad in a Danish newspaper.The meeting took place at the Uganda Muslim Supreme Council headquarters in Old Kampala.
Barlyng’s visit to the council was in response to a threat by Ugandan Muslims to stop buying Danish products until Denmark apologises for the publication.
Mr. Barlyng should have told the supreme council of muslims that he and his government have nothing to apologize for, and if they want to boycott, no more aid will be given to Uganda.
He should really have explained to them what freedom of expression means and by printing these pictures they are standing by a fundamental principle that his father and forefathers have fought and died for (maybe, unless they were collaborators).
Then he could have invited them not to visit Denmark anymore if they didn't like it before adding the above comment to the esteemed council members.
But then of course this is reality.
Uganda is now Muslim??!! Tajikistan, Malaysia, Uganda, Nigeria, Darfur, Islam is on an unstoppable march globally. While our media talks about Terry Shiavo's spouse or whatever. Yikes!
I don't know about this. This is what? The 5th third world country claiming they've received an apology? And how many of those have the ambassadors denied?
So far not a single "apology" has gone undenied by the ambassadors, who supposedly uttered them.
When are we gonna stop listening to these third world morons?
Why are the Danish abasing themselves in that primitive backwater? I see a Monty Python skit here
The last days of cannibal Idi Amin in Saudi Arabia come to mind. He hung on for weeks. Demons seem to do that -Yasir Arafat
These Muslims in Uganda who are prepared to boycott, by not stocking in their shops, Danish goods, are likely those who have in the past been described as "Asians" (i.e., people descended from those who arrived from pre-partition India), and who have periodically been the object of black African resentment, and in the past, have periodically had to flee. Irshad Manju comes from such a background. The attitude toward local Muslims varies, depending on such things as the local awareness of historic crimes. When former Tanganyika incorporated the islands of Zanzibar and Pemba, once under the rule of the Ibadi Sultan of Muscat and Oman, black Africans were well aware that the Arab slave trade in East Africa had centered on the island of Pemba. The behavior of Arab Muslims toward black Africans, whether in the Sudan, Mali, Mauritania, or in the councils of the U.N., where many African diplomats and rulers were bribed, on the cheap, to sever relations with Israel (which also meant an end to the most successful foreign aid program in Africa -- the small-scale, manageable, projects in agriculture that the Israelis had undertaken all over black Africa). Of course aside from a few bribed leadres, black Africa got nothing.
Those "Muslims" to whom the Danish ambassador so foolishly apologized may not, one suspects, necessarily be permanent features of Uganda, especially not if the Western world, in its own attempts to limit the influence of Islam, looks benignly on the attempt by black African governments to deal as they wish with a perceived internal threat of Islam. That threat could be not only to those rulers, and to black Christians. A large Muslim presence is likely to discourage Western tourists and investment in the future. For all kinds of countries, wishing to develop, the Western world can, if it plans correctly, make it known that a distinctly different attitude toward those likely to promote the Jihad would be not only welcome, but possibly a sine qua non for Western aid, Western trade, Western investment. It will come to that.
Could someone please help me out here. I've tried to have a letter to the editor published, in which I mention the assassination of Asma bint Marawan. After some to'ing and fro'ing with the editor I received this:
"Dear Mr xxxx, I am advised by Muslim scholars that the assassination of Asma
bint Marawan is considered a complete fabrication designed to slander
Mohammed; and that Mohammed did not make the decision to execute the Banu
Qurayza prisoners (though they were executed). In light of this, and also
the time which has elapsed since the cartoon controversy and its aftermath,
I have decided not to publish your letter."
I am fully aware of the sidestepping done over Muhammad's, supposed, non-decision, but unsure of the Asma bint Marawan fabrication. What is the evidence, either for or against it being a fabrication?
Hugh,
The Indians were kicked out of Uganda way back in 1970's most of them came here to UK and must say they have been most successful ethnic minority in UK.
unsure of the Asma bint Marwan fabrication
Denial is the standard way of dealing with this challenge, second only to disputing the age/physical status of little Aisha at consummation. I had this conversation myself with a speaker on Islam at the church I attend.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm?frm=2009&sec_id=2009
Have a look at the "Moussaoui explains Islamic law" thread over on JW. http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/010779.php
" Islam allows lying in three instances: in jihad, to bring reconciliation between Muslims, and in marriage"
And all debate with non muslims is, in it's way, jihad.
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I have serious doubts about the claim that Mr. Stig Barlyng has issued any apology, since that would effectively terminate his ambassadorship. The Danish government has not issued any apology for the cartoons. That is a fact.
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Thanks Rose. I know it could be deception, but I still want to look for evidence. Just because Taqqiya exists doesn't necessarily mean that everything is a lie. I'm not sure if anyone who can help me out here has read it. Perhaps I will try in another thread.