Islamic Tolerance Alert from Ekklesia, with thanks to Cornelius:
A Roman Catholic parish school and a Protestant Bible-study centre in the West Bank have been fire-bombed twice since the Islamist Hamas movement won a legislative election in January 2006, according to Christian clerics in the region.According to the Presbyterian Church USA News Service, a priest at the Roman Catholic Al-Ahliyya College in the West Bank city of Ramallah says that several fire-bombs were thrown into a school sports room in early March 2006, causing serious damage and destroying equipment stored there.
About a month earlier, said the same priest, several petrol bombs were thrown into an Al-Ahliyya classroom.
In other recent incidents, a Protestant Bible-study centre in the town of Bir-Zeit near Ramallah was attacked, and phrases from the Qur’an were daubed on its doors. Windows in a Lutheran church in Ramallah were also shattered by unknown assailants.
In other recent incidents, a Protestant Bible-study centre in the town of Bir-Zeit near Ramallah was attacked, and phrases from the Qur’an were daubed on its doors.
Say, which ones?
"There is no compulsion in religion?"
"You have your religion and I have mine?"
Nah, those are only trotted out when convenient.
Hanan Ashrawi? Naim Ateek? Anglican Bishop Michel Sabbagh? Comments, please.
Want to try to pull a Michel Aflag and concot some kind of Ba'athism so you can not be completely marginalized? Apparently that "Palestinianism" just didn't do the trick. Local Muslims just don't understand the value of temporarily treating you quasi-right. They don't realize that "first its the Saturday people, and then the Sunday people," as the well-known Muslim phrase goes. Wait a minute. "Then the Sunday people"? You know, I'd been giving all my attention to the first part of that phrase, singing along with my Muslim brothers in the same Hymnbook for Islamochristians, that I never stopped to consider the second part of it. "Then" the "Sunday people"? Well, that's not very nice, is it? Not after all we've done for you.
Hugh, scathing scarcasm but warranted and correct.
Prediction - Within five years the % of Palestinian Christians in the West Bank
Prediction-Within five years 0 percent Hammas/PA in the West Bank.
First the fire bombs, then the human bombs.
Or, more precisely, rocks->guns->rockets
firebombs->defacement->random assault->random killing->targeted assault->targeted killing->suicide bombing (multiple killing)----->nuclear bomb
it's the same escalation of tactics
it's the same escalation of strategy
It's only stopped with a strong counterresponse.
Posted by HaMalach: It's only stopped with a strong counterresponse.
It's only stopped with a strong counterresponse, which contnues without abatement till the enemy calls it quits for good. Hudnas are not acceptable.
If their is one area where both Catholic and Protestant leaders have been woefully inadequte is their lack of speaking out in defense of our Easter Rite Christian brothers and Sisters. It's a truly sad plight.
It's sad to think most Christians living cozy in the West have no clue whats happening to the Christians in the East at the hands of muslims
I saw a docu on the condition of the Christians in the Holy Land. They are frequently prosecuted and less likely to get a job, but they live along side the Palestinians.
Question is would the Hamas government protect them?
Hamas wants the world to treat it like a government, now it has to act like one and protect all the people living under its authority.
I'm sure this is a mistake, because the Presbyterians have recently reminded us that Israel is to blame for everything.
Seymour Paine--You are certainly right there--the Lutheran Church in America of which I am a nominal member recently passed a resolution condemning the Israelis for building their fence. Everytime the Lutes vote on something these days I duck for cover under the kitchen table.
Hugh, you seem to be on opposite sides from Bob Novack, the syndicated reporter. His recent columns were from 'the occupied territories.' He wrote that he couldn't find a single Pali Christian who was worried or upset or blamed Hamas for much of anything. This reminds me of an SS doctor asking Jews in the barracks how they're being treated . . . but I digress. Seems to me Novack, who abandoned his Jewish religion for all the wrong reasons I would surmise, wants to prove he can out 'anti-semite' the anti-semites. And, in this, he succeeds. Mazel Tov, Bob, you're grandparents would be proud of you. Perhaps he's related to Toqueamada. How's that for sarcasm. Seriously, for a good dash of dhimmitude, I urge all Jihadwatch readers to read a few of Bob Novac's latest columns from Israel . . . they make Pat Buchanan look like a likudnick.
And another thing. Sorry for further sarcasm, but can somebody explain why the 'evil' Jerry Falwell speaks out on the plight of Arab Christians as does the 'evil' 700 club guy, and yet they are the 'bad guys,' while at the same time, not a word, not a cough, from our Prez? Maybe the plight of Arab Christians didn't 'make the cut' for the Prez's weekly DVD of news events, or perhaps the plight of Arab Christians just aren't that important to him.
Accepting the testimony of either the brainwashed islmochristians, who have internalized their status as dhimmis, or the terrified local Christians who of course do not want to be on camera berating Muslims ("we have no problems, we get along fine, we are all Arabs, now please leave me alone.") shows that Novak is both a fool and a swine. But you knew that. We all do.
I remember how the Taliban forced Hindus and Sikhs in Afghanistan to wear yellow badges during the last months of their rule. I assume that Hamaas will do the same to the remaining Christians in the Holy Land if they believe they can get away with it.
hanan ashrawi lives in --or has lived in- the ramallah-bir zeit area where these attacks took place. It's all right in her own backyard.
I have been informed, however, that her mother, who lives in the Old City of Jerusalem, has different views on Jews, Muslims, and Christians. She supposedly confided her views to Jewish neighbors in the Old City.
hanan ashrawi lives in --or has lived in- the ramallah-bir zeit area where these attacks took place. It's all right in her own backyard.
I have been informed, however, that her mother, who lives in the Old City of Jerusalem, has different views on Jews, Muslims, and Christians. She supposedly confided her views to Jewish neighbors in the Old City.
C'mon, everyone. We know this isn't happening because there's something fundamentlly wrong with the ROP. The dysfunction is the result of the "Israeli occupation".
Biorabbi,
You are correct. When Novack or any other journalist interviews people living under Hamas, they are not going to endanger their families by speaking out. However, as soon as they are in the US, they will speak the truth. It is the same phenomenon of Soviet or Cuban sportsmen who would spout the party line as long as they had a "handler" nearby. As soon as they defected, they would speak the truth about the reality of communism.
The Palestinian Christians live under a totalitarian regime that is bent on their destruction. To smear them as Islamochristians is as unjust as smearing the people who lived under communism because they couldn't speak out.
Islamochristians, Islamojews and Islamohindus no more represent their oppressed co-religionists than the few "patriotic capitalists" who supported Mao represented Chinese businessmen.
People like Ashrawi and Sabbagh are about as relevant to Palestinian Christianity as the Rabbis of Natorei Karta are to modern Chasidic Judaism.
Eliyahu,
I am friends with several of Ashrawi's relatives and you are right. They are Catholic or Orthodox Christians while Ashrawi is a liberal Protestant. They also strongly disagree with her "political opportunism" that has sold out the Palestinian Christians for her own economic security.