Georgia jihad case: porn, coded messages and maps of Washington in suitcase

More on the Georgia Jihad from CNN, with thanks to BH:

At a news conference Thursday in Atlanta, U.S. Attorney David Nahmias said Ahmed was charged with providing material support for terrorism, not planning or carrying out terrorist acts.

FBI spokesman Richard Kolko said "no imminent threat" existed at any point during the investigation.

Court documents reveal the investigation included court-authorized wiretapping, recounting a conversation between Ahmed and Sadequee's sister.

The FBI affidavit also says agents found two CD-ROMs in the lining of Sadequee's suitcase when he was leaving the United States. One disc contained pornography and the other was encrypted with a code the FBI was unable to crack, according to the affidavit.

It also says Sadequee had maps of the Washington area with the discs.

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Send all non American citizen muslim college students home at the end of the semester carefully checking everything they take with them, and do not let any back in. And do not let any Muslim travel outside of the United States or into the United States for the duration of the war. In fact, eject all non-U.S. citizen Muslims now. End all Muslim money coming into the U.S....no more contributions to colleges or mosques especially. Why is this so hard to understand.

what must happen in Europe may be coming on little cat feet in England. Here is an article in the Telegraph:

http://tinyurl.com/kknw3

Here is the Web site of the British National Party:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

You may wish for a more centrist organization; but relatively extreme parties can change the conversation. Anglo culture may yet survive.

"encrypted with a code the FBI was unable to crack..."
-- from the article above

In this case one hopes the FBI is lying, and for obvious reasons. But what if it isn't? What if it is "unable to crack" that code?

After all, much of the Western world, and certainly most of those whose duty it is to protect, seem unable to "crack the code" of Islam.

Cryptanalysis Performed Daily Here at Jihad Watch -- Wile-U-Wait.

In this case one hopes the FBI is lying, and for obvious reasons. But what if it isn't? What if it is "unable to crack" that code?

Hugh it is nearly impossible to crack encryted messages without its key. Theres is only 1 in a billion trillion chance that you'd be able to replicate the key. But then again that guy will be easier to break than the code. In the end they'd get their key out of him...

Here is the Web site of the British National Party:

http://www.bnp.org.uk/

You may wish for a more centrist organization; but relatively extreme parties can change the conversation. Anglo culture may yet survive.

Get a grip. BNP are nothing more than facist imbeciles.

"fascist imbeciles"

take a look at the site, which seems straight out of Pat Buchanan. i think there is another British party that is truly vile, but these folks have been trying to remove the anti-semites and become legit. take a look, for example, at the article on a re-emergence of Christianity.

Vikrant, if the main parties will not respond to the crisis in Europe, we have to hope for a resurgence of a civilized hard right. Such parties exist in Italy (National Alliance, headed by Fini); in France (MPF: Mouvement Pour la France); and elsewhere.

It is not impossible to crack encryptic codes. The Allies were good at it.

As far as the BNP, that is exactly what the western world needs, some men who are not beholden to political correctness like every other political party in the West today. As such, they are called fascists and worse.

even if the BNP is not "exactly what is needed," look at the alternative. the british are being set upon, with demonstrations for violent jihad unanswered while folks can be arrested for talking against islam. if the BNP has a good day at the polls, the Tories will have to listen.

such is life in the extreme situation that muslim immigration brings to an otherwise liberal society.

here are a couple of additional essays on the BNP:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party

http://www.bnp.org.uk/candidates2005/manifesto/manf4.htm

StillBreathing, some extreme measures are needed, and even if your party comes into power, they can start the trend to correcting the problem. but in economics are they more like Ironlady or more socialist?

So this was a 'conflicted' Muslim male, eh?

Couldn't decide between "Gee, hottie" and "Jihadi".

Send them all back to Mecca -to can stew in the 7th century, where their morbid mindset belongs.

The "unbreakable" code can break broken if it is any form of an algorithm. But, if it is something personal (e.g. the number of letters on page 77 of the 1960 paperback Penguin Koran, divided by 5, and that numeral used as a letter code, with the alphabet shifting from A to Z, B to Y, in sequence, etc., then a little waterboarding may be called for to rinse the 'key' loose).

I've been in a sad mood thinking about the BNP, but I stand by my perception that at this time, a strong showing by that party is good for the West.

Lulu, BNP is protectionist and seems committed to capitalism, with worker ownership by pension funds (number 9 in the list here):

http://www.bnp.org.uk/articles/econ_nat10.htm

In this case one hopes the FBI is lying, and for obvious reasons. But what if it isn't? What if it is "unable to crack" that code?
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The porn was a distraction to keep the FBI occupied and unable to break the code.

The FBI needs to train its agents not to read porn before trying to break the code.

Problem solved.

Now that it's been proven that US Citizens are in fact conspiring to commit Terrorist Acts in this country on behalf of Islam, I wonder what the liberal left has to say about "illegal" wiretaps.....Sorry, there I go forgetting the obvious problem with arguing with a Moonbat...

They exhibit a quality best described as an invincible ignorance coupled with an aggressive stupidity.
Which is why, no matter how hard you try, your wit is no match for their stupidity.

It's time to consider expulsion of non citizen Muslims, restricting travel of American Muslims and Agressive Enforcement of current Immigration Laws.

The NSA cracks codes. The FBI examins DNA. There's a reason why we have different agencies.

If there 2 young men are American citizens and they are guilty of plotting terrorism during a time of war, which this is, then they should be sentenced by a jury of their peers and shot as traitors.

Of course, this won't happen. Just one more reason that this will not be the last time we see such treachery from within.

We're too soft. Too "civilized." Too constrained.

Let's hope we don't end up "too dead."

The BNP's gains are already largely portrayed as a 'backlash' against 7/7 - the implication being that they're simply exploiting the situation for the same old agenda. They could ignite positive debate, or just as easily stifle it. Pointing out the core scriptures of Islam - as they've been doing - could cause important realities to be dismissed as racist propaganda. Regardless of how squeaky-clean they appear, its how the majority of the BNPs supporters are viewed that will carry the day. There will always be obnoxious racists among their contingent and the press will have a field day with them, making rational discourse on Islam even more taboo than at present.

Their veneer of respectability is just that. It would be great if it ran more than skin deep. Any success they enjoy will further bolster rising NF sentiments across Europe, a 'solution' worse than the problem.

"Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready."Teddy Roosevelt

I am quite sympathetic to our British friends who are considering voting BNP. Like Wolfgang Bruno predicted some time ago, it may come down to a "clash of fascisms". This world is so very much uglier than I ever wanted to know. On the US front, I am personally keeping an eye on Newt Gingrich...

Hmmmm didn't communism fold like a cheap card house?

Animus,

I share your sentiments about the BNP. How sad that the British Conservatives are so gutless that frustrated voters feel they have nowhere else to turn.

Excepting for Denmark, it seems that Western Europe is bereft of a functional Center-Right.


Texican: The porn was a distraction to keep the FBI occupied and unable to break the code.

Hint: The coded message is in the porn...The incrypted code is the distraction. Only a very close examination of the porn will reveal the message...

"a clash of fascisms"

yes. i suppose someone here may know what the conservatives say about islam, whether they do present a civilized alternative to racialists like the bnp. (i mean, why would you want to rid england of taiwanese christians, for example? stupid.)

but i gather the conservatives in england are not talking about islam as a political organization.

Here's Wolfgang Bruno's essay on The Clash of Fascisms, including an interesting comment from Hugh, who sensibly suggests Congressional hearings on the threat of Islam:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006082.php

Stillbreathing - thanks for posting that oldie but goody. The last commenter says:

"If one could make a rational but hard choice between a future as a "dhimmi" in an Islamic state or a citizen with limited rights in a European "police state", I suspect that the latter would be preferable to most non-muslim people."

I have to agree. There has never been a permanent "police state". Islam, on the other hand, is forever. Or rather Islam IS the only permanent police state.

StillBreathing,

Dont u realise, BNP is just cashing on Islamic crisis. Being a British Asian i see no difference between BNP and Jehadists. Infact BNP racism is a more imminent threat in my day-to-day life than Islamofacists. Only Hindu group ever to support BNP is VHP which makes even BNP look like just a bunch of playground bullies.

BNP is a more imminent threat? are you being physically intimidated by these people?

am sympathetic to your situation, to the extent that i understand it.

There's an old native indian axiom that disease is nature in an imbalance. Which is scientifically true. Almost all diseases are the result of the level of something in the body, either chemicals, proteins, or bacteria being out of balance. Too much or too little, is bad for you.

The current disease of islamification is the result of the same dynamic - an imbalance of the political forces of Left and Right.

With the emergence of the baby boomers in the West, the Left rose up in to take over the institutions and levers of society. They were determined to change our society from the "fascist, homopobic, racist, paternalistic, anglo-centric, imperialistic" entity they saw it as, and turn it into the exact opposite. And off they went to the government, the universities, the courts, the boardrooms, the schools, the city councils, the media outlets, the newspapers, and over the last 4 decades they have achieved that goal. The have turned the West into a valhalla of the Left. And they have done a good job of suppressing the Right in the process. So much so that we have to blog on the internet to say the things we do. The Left has the main stream media to itself. This suppression is what we know as political correctness. If something is not in line with the views of the Left then it is "incorrect". Subsequentely it is suppressed.

So the boomers opened up the immigration doors, hogtied the police, the FBI, the courts, and even the population. Witness the man that was arrested for burning a mexican flag. Anyone who denounces Islam and the prophet in pubic can be charged with a hate crime. The same action in reverse is allowed however. That is how the Left wants it.

Unfortunately, because the Right has been so suppressed for the last 40 years, islamification by immigration and propaganda now threatens our very civilization. Even speaking against it is dangerous.

So we now have a disease. And that disease is the result of an imbalance. Too much Left and not enough Right. If the imbalance is not corrected, our civilization will be destroyed. The disease will kill us all. Even the native Indians knew that intuitively.

The BNP is gaining support in England because because the Islamic cancer is reaching the throats of the British Citizens. Their perception is right on the money and people are penetrating the prejudices as Vikrant has portrayed and are listening to what they have to say, the last chance to save their culture and way of life. What political entity do you think will lead the British from the tyrants that have washed upon their shore? Tony Blair with the Koran by his bedside and his so called Labour party that is only concerned with capturing the muslim vote and keeping their sorry souls in power?
Here in the U.S. there is no one with the vision of Nick Griffin. I don't see any politician with even the perception that Islamic Fascism is a threat. They view CAIR (a wolf in sheep's cloth) as the voice of "moderate" muslims when they are actually an instrument for destroying America and establishing Islamic rule.
God bless the BNP! My ancestors came from Europe and the BNP is a ray of light in the nightmare of a coming Eurabia. They are not only defending our way of life and taking on the Islamist head on but are gaining support that has the decadent major parties shaking in their boots.
Here in America there is no organized political defense against Islamic Fascism. The media is running scared and there is no difference between the two parties. If a party like the BNP sprung up the would be cast as red neck Fascists by the cowarly Republicans and Democrats and the whimpy press hoping that no one listens to them. Thankfully, that is no longer happeing in England.

Send all non American citizen muslim college students home ... and do not let any back in. And do not let any Muslim travel outside ... or into the United States ... eject all non-U.S. citizen Muslims now. End all Muslim money coming into the U.S.
-Abby

Dear Abby,

What you suggest is not just ignorant, it's downright un-American. Remember that this war is against a particularly extreme, militant form of Islam, and that we can't paint all Muslims with the same brush. The majority of those Muslims you refer to are completely harmless, and to unjustly deport them or deny them entry would not exactly "win their hearts and minds". Not to mention that those Muslims are also consumers and businessmen who greatly contribute to our national economy.

I must add that most Muslims I've met have had less extreme views than yours.

Abby,

Your suggestions to deport all non-U.S. citizen Muslims are all the more ridiculous when you notice that the suspects mentioned in the article were both U.S. citizens, and therefore would not have been affected by any of your proposals.