German mayor: Ahmadinejad unwelcome

Despite much of the stereotypical sniping at Germans here and elsewhere, the Germans that I know, both in-laws and friends are extremely disgusted with this and the mayor's comments are pretty much in line with what I have heard.

I would think that if the Iranian tyrant does bless them with a visit, someone could divert their motorcade to the nearby concentration camp and let him inspect the ovens that have been restored as a reminder.

The Iranian tyrant would just revel with joy in the concentration camp. What should happen would be the opening volley to the destruction of Iran's nuclear facilities by the elimination of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
The West let Hilter grow into strength, eliminate Mahmoud before he grows.

He should only be welcome as a defendant in a new Nuremberg Trial.

He will be home away from home in the Luitpoldarena and the Zeppelin field. Islam and the Nazis are/were not so strange bedfellows and actively cooperated with each other. Jihadists are just finishing Hitler's botched job.
Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. How can he attend the match?

Despite much of the stereotypical sniping at Germans

This initiative will put paid to any stereotyping.

So the Germans are not 'humourless, hardworking and disciplinarian'.But they apply themselves to having fun and work hard at it with a discipline and 'vigour'that I find quite humourless( humour is not just laughing at asinine jokes) and programmed. They've got their work cut out changing that stereotype. The secret is really letting go(scary?) and not taking yourself too seriously.And that especially goes for the Islamo chumps.

humour is not just laughing at asinine jokes

They have their place, though. I love 'em. The asininer the better.

I suppose Basil Fawlty was the butt of the series, so Cleese could always claim to have been sending up "anti-German prejudice". OTOH, I seem to recall a few Monty Python sketches aimed at Germany: there is, for example, the one in which Hitler stands for the constituency of North Minehead at a by-election.

Translator: "Mr. Hitler - whack! Hilter - says that, historically, Taunton is a part of Minehead already."

Vox pop. voice: "Well, I gave him my baby to kiss, and he bit it."

Basil Fawlty was the butt of the series

They you go. An assinine joke.

Is that something to do with donkeys?

Is that something to do with donkeys?

Our donkeys are their bottoms. But our bums are their tramps. And their tramps our our tarts. What they think of our tarts, who knows? And as for our spotted dick...

My spelling part of a new initiative to make things easier for the colonials. As in the film, Assnick and Old Lace.

Ok interested, here's a good one.

What do you call an Arab dairy farmer?

A milk sheik.

Nice one.

My spelling [is] part of a new initiative ...

I'm a non-smoker but I'm told an English request for cigarettes can cause confusion in the US, too.

BTW, here is Father Ted, kicking Bishop Brennan up the a*s*, which Dermot Morgan pronounced with a most definite post-vocalic "r".

Wunderbar.

Dermot Morgan dead. George Galloway alive. Not fair.

Cigarettes? You try asking for a pencil eraser.

Tangential asinine joke: Man goes into a London bookshop and says, "Do you keep stationery?" Woman behind counter, counters "Not that it's any of your business, but I wriggle a lot towards the end." Same man tries a butcher's. "Do you keep dripping?". "Yes. Terrible, isn't it?"

Ok, Interested, what about the pencil eraser????

There's the rub. We call it a rubber.

Isn't it a crime in Germany to deny the holocaust? I wonder if the little runt will deny it and get arrested?

But they arrested and imprisoned Ernst Zundel for the same thing. Looks like the Germans have two standards for anti-semitism.

White guy = jail
brown guy = invite as guest

Hehehe.......I'll have to remember that one.

Germany's zeitgeist never recovered from the trauma experienced when they returned to their senses in 1945.

"Therefore, they do not see a point in comply with a call by the Wiesenthal Center to declare Ahmadinejad as persona non grata." --from the article.

Ah, come on. Humour us. Please. Call him persona non grata.

No. My suggestion is that if he really turns up in Nuremberg, the mayor issue every local citizen with a few kilos of very rotten fruit and overripe eggs, and instruct them in the noble art of throwing it at the VIP stand on the Iranian side of the stadium. Complete with putrefying pork.

I got a good idea. Let's offer the Germans a deal.

We forgive them for WW II and the holocaust, and their overpriced luxury cars, wipe the slate clean, and forget Hitler ever existed if

in exchange they do us a little favor....

a favor they are more than capably of performing...

They dust off those old SS uniforms, fire up those Tiger tanks, (change the oil first, guys)reform the Gestapo, and re-arm the Whermacht. Then hire another bastard like Himmler or Heydrich, and sick them on the Middle East.

It would be game over in 48 hours for Bin Laden on the boys. If Hitler had not attacked Europe or Russia or Britain or the United States and instead attacked only the Middle East, islam would have ceases to exist by the end of the week, had that been the nazi goal.

The islamics couldn't run fast enough to the hills pleading for mercy. The terrorists would drop their guns and bombs and don women's burkas just to escape. This enemy we have is not much of an enemy if we put the black boots to them, trust me. They would scatter like the coachroaches they are.

I can just imagine a ruthless Gestapo colonel, with an eye monocle and a riding crop, with his men, barging into some room in Berlin where some Al-Qaeda guys are planning their next strike.

"Zo, vat do ve have here? A praier meeting? Vascinating. But in Germany, ve pray only to the Fuhrer. Hans, show them how to pray to the Fuhrer."

Those terrorists disappear never to be seen again.

That's what is needed. And since islam respects brutal force, they would respect us as well, rather than despise us for our liberal weaknesses.

The only thing that gives the islamic hotheads the impetus to do anything, is their perception of our weak-kneed western resolve. They bank on that. Fight them, however, and they run.

So what this proves, is that Germany alone has the excess spare capacity to save the western world from Islam. But they, like the rest of the West, simply lack the will to do so.

To thethinker

Ahmadinejad is White, Persians and Arabs are White, the only reason you think otherwise is because they lie about their colour to try and benefit from White Guilt over slavery.

Don't fall for it, Persia and Arabia continued the Slave Trade with Africa over a century after the end of slavery in Europe, and they started the slave trade even earlier.

The proper comment therefore would be this

Infidel denies the Holocaust=Jail
Islamofascist denies Holocaust=Invite as Guest

What is the problem with letting Ahmadinejad in?? Sure, he denies the holocaust, but it's just stupid to assume that he won't be arrested for it because he's a muslim. He won't be arrested because he's the leader of a country. As a German hooligan, I personally like the English fans best, but that president would make a fine hooligan too, and I'd loove to watch him running naked across the field like I will do myself.
And hey, despicable as it may seem to invite a moronic, power-hungry dictator who threatens the whole world - if the German government welcomed G. W. Bush, they can welcome Ahmadijenad as well.

There you go, a moral equivalency between the leader of the US and Iran's little Hitler. Classic Left wing sophistry.

Dhimmi alert, dhimmi alert.

To thinker:

nooo, you're doing me wrong. I wasn't speaking at all of any moral equivalency between them. I think Bush is much worse. And I think after the horrible atrocities committed by us troops and your government, you americans should eat very humble pie when talking about dictators. The Iranian leader is an idiot, a liar and a women hater, but I don't seem to remember when he last attacked a defenseless country and murdered thousands like the usa did. Just a thought.

You are such a tool. If Iran had the military power that America has, it would have destroyed the Christian world a long time ago. That is their goal, they are only waiting for the power to do it.

So take your Left wing ass and go to your islamic cohorts, and stop breathing infidel air. You are prove of the age old axiom that an enemy of an enemy is a friend of yours, no matter how barbaric that "friend is".

Defenseless country? Do you know what Saddam was and did? Murdered thousands? We need some facts and figures to back this up. Oh dear!

I look forward to the streak across the pitch anyway. And I hope it's during the Iran match. Even better,ride a pig onto the field.That should immediately incapacitate the Iranian pig wimps. Their greatest fear. Apart from women.

ho-girl,we owe iran for the hostage crisis,at the least.Our government did screw up,the first bush should have took out sadom a LONG time ago.He was far from being defenseless,from killing his own people to giving a "reward"to suicide bombers family's.

Ahmadinejad - Islamic-Trash!

These guys ‘love’ Hitler – The Iranian leader would probably sit in the stadium in German and imagine that he was a reincarnate of the Third Reich sent by GOD himself to finish off the Jews.

Every time Ah-MAD-in-Ejad mentions his peaceful nuclear program, he can’t help including phrases like the destruction of Israel and the West, along with it.
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Do we have to tolerate this Islamic-Trash!
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As a Christian, I don't like calling other people my "enemies", and I'm certainly not a friend of the Iranian president (he wouldn't want me to anyway). So with your kind permission, thinker, I'll keep breathing infidel air. But as a supporter of Amnesty International, I despise both the US- and the Iranian government. Not the people, mind. Mostly, it's not the people's fault and they want to live in peace with others, which goes for the Iraqis as well, btw. No matter what Hussein did, it was not the fault of the citizens, who were victims then and are victims now. We're not on this world to hate each other.

hoogirl-

The was a little war betwen Iran (Shi'ite run) and Iraq (Sunni led).

Look it up.

Many 'innocents' killed.

All fellows in supposedly-shared Koranic ideals.

Muslim on Muslim violence started around 650 A.D., when the majority Sunnis split from the Shi'ites.

It won't end until the minority Shi'ties end.

The U.S., Britain, The Netherlands, Poland, Denmark, Japan, etc. invaded Iraq in 2003 to make sure there were no more WMD's, like those Saddam used on the Kurds in 1988 (look it up... many innocents gassed to death), available to spread to jihadists.

There apparently weren't any WMD's left viable.

A good thing, no?

The world should have cheered.

Being sure that Saddam's Saran nerve gas or smallpox stores or even a small nuke didn't end up in Paris or New York or London via some agreeable muhjihadeen group was worth the attack, wasn't it?

The mess since the invasion is more Muslim on Muslim violence.

These people are intolerant of religious differences, even among themslves. We're just caught in the middle of their "holy" madness.

All we wanted to do was stop the looting (Muslim on Muslim crime) built sanitation and water-refining facilitinoes, get their billion dollar-a-month oil industry going, construct schools, refurbish hospitals, deliver food, organize a free government, help them write a liberating constitution, and then get the hell out of there.

What a bunch of lousy no-good invader 'crusaders', right?

We don't care what they do with their own future, as long as it doesn't lead back to the potential spread of WMD terror.

They can purge one another till Mohammad comes home, and we'd be indifferent.

Happy to see them not killing us in Bali or Belsan or Amsterdam.

War is a brutal business. Innocents always die.

But, to prevent a million of us being turned to radioactive dust or writhing piles of genetically-manipulated ebola blood, you may need to defeat a looming enemy before he can strike.

Save the self-righteousness for when a guy tries to steal your purse. Or would you sympathize with his plight and tell him to rape you, too? To make up for the colonial sins of your own country's past?

The West needs to battle smarter and harder against Islamic Imperialism.

Not whine to one another about tactical errors.

Fight the real fight, sister.

Its coming for your country.

Its warbook is the diary of the pedophile.

Arm yourself intellectually, at least.

Can't reason with people like the hooligan. They know the score. The are from the Left and are on that side of the battle for their own corrupt ideological reasons. Never the reasons they espouse.

People like that pretend to care about humanity, but they couldn't care less about human misery.

They never protest the Islamic slaughter of the Sudanese, they never protested the slaughter perpetrated by Pol Pot, or the Shining Path in Peru, or mention what Stalin did, the slaughter in Rwanda, or really of any atrocity committed by an communist, or islamic, or Left wing government.

They never protest the killing of Christians anywhere in the world. They never protest the oppression of the Chinese by their own government. They never protest the corruption and murder of Africans by the African governments. (But they sure as hell protested against South Africa. )

Millions and millions die every year from this kind of slaughter and the Lefties smile.

But as soon as the US send a single soldier overseas to do battle with a despot, it's:

"Oh, my, gawd!! Down with Imperialism! Down with the US! Think of the people dying!!"

It is so bloody transparent I wonder how they can even have the nerve to post here.

But lo and behold, the US invades a mass murdering despots hell hole, and all these hippy types come out of the closet to cry bloody murder.

The hypocrisy is enough to make you vomit.

Hooligangirl - as a Christian, I tell you you speak like a twit, and recommend some C.S.Lewis. There was an essay called "the perils of national repentance", now, which seems to me to describe your kind of moral state very accurately.

thinker-

As the imprisoned Burmese lady (and icon of Amnesty International) Aung San Suu Kyi puts it:

"If you give in to intimidation, you'll go on being intimidated."

And Islam is Intimidation, Incorporated.

It is easy to scream against those who will not threaten you in return.

As 'activists' who yell at "warmonger Bush", etc. all know.

They're too chickensh*t to call the real mass-murdering criminals to task.

Those s.o.b.'s might yell back.

Or even kill you.

As Theo Van Gogh (suppressed potential icon of the Left) learned.

Theo should have carried an illegal firearm, but he forgot that his sworn jihadist enemies were more serious than he was.

The fatal flaw of the Left.

Who try to ignore that:

Death Camps do not close.

They must be shut down by armies.

And:

Peace is wonderful.

But it was never won by a pacifist.

"The mess since the invasion is more muslim to muslim violence." Patriot, it seems I've been wrong after all. So, Geoffrey Miller, Charles Graner, Lindy England and Sabrina Harman were all muslims? I had no idea. Thanks for telling me, brother. And Powell didn't lie at all, the Earth is flat, and the USA have actually been helping Iraq rather than bringing only misery to a place they had no business to be? I must get my information straight. haha. Seriously, I believe that some us troops might have meant well, but your government didn't.
I think the reason why the world considers that war a scandal is that the USA consider themselves a constitutional state and a democracy, in a community of other states who consider themselves the same.
In my opinion, the danger of islam is not terrorism. For me, Muhammad was a pedophile too and islam is rather a cult than a religion, although some muslims are peaceful and nice people. In my view, the real threat of islam is many male muslims' attitude towards women, e.g. forced marriages (often of girls at dollplaying age) and "honor" killings are a big and sad topic here. And that attitude influences the view on women in general, all women. There are some areas where you're called a whore by groups of young muslim guys, just because you're wearing a normal skirt and a T-shirt. And your head high. They don't like that in women. That is what worries me in islam, not terrorism. Honestly, you're much more likely to be hit by a car or suffer a household accident.

right patriots, peace was never won by pacifists and death camps do not close. Not even Abu Ghraib. but no one can stand up to the us army, that's why those camps will never close. So I can only pray for their victims.

Now is there a reason to resort to namecalling, just because you disagree with hooligangirl? All you're doing is reaffirming her in the belief that, the fight against Islam is run by a group of right wing nuts. State the facts and let them speak for themselves and avoid resorting to ad hominem attacks.

As for the moral equivalence between Ahmadinejad and Bush, that's a diversion tactic. The question is not whether Mr. Ahmadinejad is better or worse than Bush. Both can be bad but there is no reason to hold them up against each other, deal with them separately. And yes I do believe that both of them are bad, Ahmadinejad for threatening the world with death, terror and ultimately nuclear armageddon, Bush for not realizing the real danger, and thus preventing the West from pursuing the best strategy for getting rid of the danger that Islam is posing to the rest of the world!

hoogirl-

Their "victims" would slice off your head if freed.

Silly girl.

Abu Ghraib was something I thought that the woman general in charge should have been cashiered over and imprisoned for allowing, and that Rumsfeld should have resigned in disgrace about- for not setting up the prison up properly (see previous postings here on JW/DW on the topic) so let's not mix-master metaphors.

Without the U.S. military, there would be warlord chaos everywhere, Hitler II would be ruling Europe, or you, as an 'peace activist' would likely have ended up in a harem as the plaything of a Nazi Muslim gauleiter.

Natter all you like, you're attacking those tying to stop the True Theocratic Terror. However many mistakes are made, they get exposed and corrected on our side.

In Islam, they get enshrined.

“Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs,
even though checkered by failure,
than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much,
because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.”-Teddy Roosevelt

“Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs,
even though checkered by failure,
than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much,
because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat.”-Teddy Roosevelt

oops,sorry for the dp

There ain't no such a thing as INNOCENTS KILLED,
anybody getting killed had it coming!!!
there is no chance in this universe, everything happens the way it happens !!!,
and instead of fooling around with little christian hooligan girls you better clean your weapon systems, stock up on ammo, and make sure you don't have it coming.
Those Ismaelites are much more fanatical then you patronizing mob, they get hardware - not mp3 players.
BE WARNED - NOT HUMOROUS! when those bullets are flying you will all shit your pants and call for mama, those on the opposite will just shout the name of their wicked belief, reload and run without scare into your fire...( wanting to go to heaven!)
Greetings from the front ( and I say it again my dear intellectuals, you will shit your pants!)

patriot4-

Typical warmongering to post that imperialist stuff TWICE!

Shame on you!

C.S.Lewis was a stupid, racist, slave owning, religious zealot idiot. Don't waste your time with such 'literary' garbage.

As for Ahmadenijad(who the hell knows or cares how to spell his bloody name), he ought not be allowed in Germany. Persona non grata indeed.

Dies ist der größte Fehler von Merkel.

cosmisAvenger-

Is that Islamic logic? (Everyone dies for Allah?)

Inshallah, by chance?

Omit slave owning please. But all other comments remain. I failed to edit properly.

In my opinion, the danger of islam is not terrorism. For me, Muhammad was a pedophile too and islam is rather a cult than a religion, although some muslims are peaceful and nice people. In my view, the real threat of islam is many male muslims' attitude towards women, e.g. forced marriages (often of girls at dollplaying age) and "honor" killings are a big and sad topic here. And that attitude influences the view on women in general, all women. There are some areas where you're called a whore by groups of young muslim guys, just because you're wearing a normal skirt and a T-shirt. And your head high. They don't like that in women. That is what worries me in islam, not terrorism. Honestly, you're much more likely to be hit by a car or suffer a household accident.

Hooligangirl, you're contradicting yourself... Male muslims attitude towards women are terrorism! They are terrorizing the women, on both a personal level as well as on a governmental level -- using the Qu'ran and assorted Hadith to do justify their behavior! The same thing with larger scale terrorism, educate yourself people are dying everyday due to Islamic Terrorism, educate yourself visit: Religion of Peace and other resources to find out the truth. Start educating yourself about what the Qu'ran actually says about women, about Jews and Christians and about killing infidels and apostates (the Skeptics Annotated Qu'ranmight come in handy there and you might also find a lot of pertinent information on Answering Islam).

As for Ahmadenijad(who the hell knows or cares how to spell his bloody name), he ought not be allowed in Germany. Persona non grata indeed.

Indeed! And would “AhmadJihad“ be an acceptable spelling ;)

hahaaa Ahmadjihad! Make a song of it and our groups will sing it for him in the stadium! - Well, outside, we're not allowed in, but he'll hear it.

Hooligan knows the score, as I already said. She is on their side, and that is all there is to it.

Abu Ghraib compared to death camps? Abu Ghraib was an imfamous Iraqui prison where thousands were tortured and murderd. Once the US took control of it, that stopped.

Oh, but they had some photo fun with some of those jihadists. Oh my, how terrible. LOL.

I bet that Hooligan girl never protested, or thought of protesting against Saddam Hussein when he was killing all those tens of thousands of people, many at Abu. No of course, not. But as soon as the US takes it over and stops the killing there, then people like her start preaching about the evil American Abu Ghraib.

I love it. Can they be any more transparent?

Imagine a hooligan raping an old lady, and American comes by and punches him in the head, then the Hooligans of the world say, "Damn, you imperialist American, what right do you have to smack that poor man in the head?"

That is the world we live in folks. The world of the Left. They hate the West so much, they will sign a pact with the devil to destroy it.

No i will not be sh**ing my pants,i understand what's comin,i will stand with my fellow american's and fight in the street.

Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway.
John Wayne

Thinker...I hope you are aware that your nickname does contradict your statements?

profitable beard:
I have been in 22 of the dirtholes which our islamic opponents call homelands, having also been under fire at Dili airport during the cleansing of East Timor I must say I definitely do not underestimate these juvenile punksters with their Kalashnikovs, - and yes, they are not scared - if they have to die then "Inshallah" its for this brainwash of a belief.
(being slightly trained I did not shit my pants, but got nevertheless very nervous - especially as my camera did not shoot bullets)

hoogirl-

A final word, from one of your sisters, on something we agree about.

"In a society where the rights of women and potential of women are constrained, no man can be truly free. He may have power, but he will not have freedom."
- Mary Robinson.

Freedom is bought with guts.

Preferably your enemies'.

I have laid out the hypocrisy of your views, the views of the Left, and the irrationality of any argument to justify them. I know how you think and have laid it bare for the forum to see. The mentality of the Left is indefensible. It is the fifth column.

We agree on that, profits. wise words.

Cosmic, hope you still have a clean conscience, but according to your words, you are a weird person. Or Jay Leno in disguise.

cosmicAvenger-

Only served on a listening post, and never had anyone dropping ordnance on us.

I've been deadly serious about the jihadists since reading the Koran during the Tehran hostage fiasco.

I expected something like the Sermon on the Mount mingled with charming Arabian Nights tales, and, instead, was sickened to find a Stone Age MEIN KAMPF.

For some reason, people resist reading it.

It's shorter than the New Testament, so there is no excuse but suicidal laziness.

But that seems to work for many in the dozing West.

If you don't read it, maybe it will all go away. appears to be the silent mantra.

And, speaking of mantras:

"Allahu Akbar!",to me, sounds like the noise of a devil vomiting.

And I mean that literally.

naked hooligan:
what´s weird ? you paying the tax, so that your NATO can protect the poppyfields in the highlands of Pamir??

"Allahu Akbar!",to me, sounds like the noise of a devil vomiting."

LOL. Actually, all the arabic languages sound like someone vomiting, gurgling phlegm, or being strangled. The Klingons come to mind. I think that is how Gene Roddenberry got the Klingon sound. He taped arabs speaking and played it backwards.

mr. amadi-jihadi
is allah intoxicated
and totally deluded
pretending to be
a big cheese for the madhi.
What a rush he'll get
when he tours those gas ovens.
Maybe the gold light will pour
over him again and his limp spear will rise
and he can return to persia and strut like a man.

Kafir Nonbeliever - you talk like someone who's just fallen out of a tree. "Slave-owning", Lewis? Get your facts right before you make yourself ridiculous to anyone who knows them. And anyone who gets a triple First in Oxford before the fall - in the early twenties, when degrees meant something - is not "stupid". Perhaps you ought to crack a book some time. You know, they don't bite.

As for the specific essay I mentioned, it was written in 1940 and targets the kind of pseudo-Christian moral equivalence that was even then, and in spite of Winston Churchill and the national mood, being rolled out by Anglican clergymen who insisted that Britain was as bad as the Nazis - which shows you that some things really never change. I think Robert could do worse than reprint it whole somewhere in the site.

Re: slave owning, I stated immediately after my post that I failed to edit and that he was not a slave owner; there is no such edit feature on here. That doesn't change the fact that he was an irrational superstitious theist.

As for my criticisms of the 'great literary' Christian writer, I look forward to any extended postings on this site of his. Such would expose this site as being blatantly pro-Christian - nothing else. Have at it with Lewis.

Why do you assume I have not read my fair share? I read the LW and W as a child and it put me to sleep. I confess admiration for one of Lewis' friends whose writing affected me greatly as a child. However, that author's work was deeper and darker than anything Lewis wrote. Although that particular author's work was not particularly well written, it satisfied (for a time) my boyhood hunger for fantasy worlds and warfare.

Writing about biblical miracles cloaked in other terms does take away from its artistic worth, but it also does not morph into something other than religious work. It fact, it promotes superstition and religiosity. But of course, that is exactly what you would like. Such works certainly don’t need to be banned, but it is a shame that society cannot get past them. They become in essence, religious “pop culture” which in terms causes religiousity to become confused with pop culture. Then you bemoan those results. Amusing.

Kafir Nonbeliever: so you read The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe as a child. That is the extent of your knowledge of Lewis. How about starting from The Oxford History of Sixteenth-Century English Literature? If not, then shut up.

I don't appreciate being told to shut up. You make foolish assumptions; don't assume I know nothing about your Christian hero. One need not have written a biography about a particular author to make comments about him (this is not rocket science or even the 'impossible-to'understand-because-it-is-not-written for-infidels-Koran'. Moreover, I am familiar with some of his works. Don't impune my education, and I won't yours. For the record, I am fairly widely read.

You feel a bond to Lewis merely because you falsely believe he gives you "intellectual validation" for your religious beliefs. I am glad his works have that affect on you.

cheers

KN: stop using verbiage that says precisely nothing. Have you, or have you not, read any of Lewis's scholarly work? Or his adult fiction? Or indeed anything? If not, shut up.