The Flight 93 transcripts reveal the essentially religious orientation of the 9/11 mujahedin. They utter various Islamic prayers and phrases throughout the transcript. They cry "Allahu akbar" repeatedly, in accord with Al-Qaeda directives, when they begin their attempt to take over the airplane -- and nine times in succession as it is crashing.
There is no surprise in any of this. Al-Qaeda and other jihadist organizations have made their perspectives and goals abundantly clear. But the major media continue to do what they have done since 9/11: ignore this entirely, despite the fact that it is the most important and revealing aspect of what we know about the hijackers and others who think like them. This TimesOnline story (thanks to JE) about the transcript is a case in point. (You can find a pdf of the transcript at this link also.) Although we're told that one of the hijackers says, "O Allah, O Allah," there is no mention of their repeated religious invocations, so that that single cry that is reported could simply be the cry of someone who is hurt or in peril; it gives no hint that it may have to do with why the hijackers are doing what they are doing. There is also no mention in the article of the hijackers shouting "Allahu akbar" even once, despite its relevance to Muhammad Atta's instruction: "Shout, 'Allahu Akbar,' because this strikes fear in the hearts of the non-believers." While the Times recounts the crash in detail, the nine "Allahu akbars" are conspicuously left out:
"Noooooo!” screams a passenger, and then, at 10.03 and seven seconds, 2,197ft above a field in Pennsyvannia [sic], the voice recorder shuts off. The courtroom is silent.
After this suspicious omission, the Times does at least record the reaction of the mad Moussaoui:
After the jury leaves, Moussaoui shouts: “God curse you all!”
The Times even reports that a passenger says "Let's go guys." Now look up at the headline I have put on this story. It is taken from the transcript. In the context of the entire statement, which is presented in the transcript as being spoken by the same person, do you think "Let's go guys" was spoken by a passenger or by a hijacker? I don't think the Times, a paper with generally good jihad coverage, wants to suggest that both passengers and hijackers were shouting "Allahu akbar." Or do they?
This MSNBC story about the transcript (thanks to Jeffrey Imm) is substantially the same. It does mention the "Allahu akbar" at the crash, but not its repetition: "'Allah is the greatest' someone yelled right before the plane crashed in a Pennsylvania field." But it is strange that after identifying voices as being those of hijackers or passengers throughout the story, it suddenly attributes this yell, the only religious statement reported in the story, as coming from "someone." As if it may have been a passenger or a hijacker.
Call me hypersensitive. But every day I read stories about the global jihad, and I see the lengths to which the mainstream media goes to obscure any reference to Islam and jihad as they report them. Self-professed mujahedin are always "militants" or "insurgents." Mention is rarely, if ever, made of the ideological aspects of their struggle. And groups like CAIR are forever presented as neutral civil rights organizations. I think the way these transcripts are being presented is of a piece with all that. What do you think?
UPDATE: The BBC (thanks to John) has the complete transcript here.
Robert:
We live in an era where there are no "journalists" who are able to look at information and apply critical thinking tools to what they are reading or apply any standards of objectivity. Instead, we have meat puppets and ego maniacs who will accept unadulterated propaganda as factual.
A couple of weeks ago I was left absolutely slack-jawed by an account that appeared in the Canadian Jewish News about the appearance of the director of "Jenin, Jenin", (the PA funded "documentary" that claimed that IDF forces massacred unarmed civilians when in fact they only killed about 50, largely armed combatants in response to repeated terror attacks) at a peacenik film festival in Toronto. This director's latest opus is yet another documentary whining about his inability to screen Jenin, Jenin in Israel, but the coverage in the CJN failed to mention the reason: "J,J" was proven in court to be a fraud. The credulous CJN reporter merely talked about "J,J making tongues wag in Israel". And this was no green reporter filing a story, but a middle-aged one, who should have known the full story!
Very early in the article:
“O Allah, O Allah,” a hijacker moans.
I think this gets across the religious beliefs of the hijackers. Anything more would pose a risk to the newspaper. Look at all the trouble we have with CAIR in this country. No doubt the upper management at most newspapers instructs reporters to go easy on the whole Jihad thing. We wouldn't want to offend any moderate Muslims who shout "Allahu Akbar" when their Jihad to quit smoking is successful.
The trial itself feeds into the mirage that terrorism can be dealt with by the law enforcement model. This is the fault of the Bush administration, which has conspired to de-Islamize terrorism at all turns.
Robert,
I see your concerns, but times are changing and the public is becoming more aware that we are facing 1930's fascism with a face lift as we look at Islam. The Communications Revolution is a two-way information highway.
I was struck by this a few weeks ago when a person (who tends to be PC) said to me "Islam is intolerant" after I raised the issue. (BTW, this person was favorably impressed by the thoughtful comments of JW.)
The Internet is the new media and the old print media and other news sources are becoming as timely as a horse and buggy on an Interstate highway. Eventually, even the old media will face reality and have to let go of the PC nonsense.
... the old print media and other news sources are becoming as timely as a horse and buggy on an Interstate highway...
I took a journalism course once. I was yukking it up with a friend in the hall just outside the classroom, he was riding me for taking a dumbass course. I agreed, but pointed out all the hot sorority babes in their. Lipstick subintellectuals.
The professor overheard me and jacked me with an F. Such are the ethics of journalists. People who couldn't get through a course in physics, finite math, or biochemistry.
Who what when where why. And write the article in backward form. What does it take to learn that, ten minutes?
Why is it, only at the trial of one of these wild beast-men, do we find out what they said during the murder of so many Americans?
I'll tell you why....because the yellow stream media are shrinking cowards, liars, traitors, and they all hate America.
But so too are the U.S. State Dept., the C.I.A., and so many other branches of the Federal govt.
Can we impeach the whole damn bunch of them?
It's time for a second American revolution
I guess my question is "Do the journalists at the MSM have to take a dhimmitest before they are allowed to write?" Apparently so and only the best dhimmis need apply.
Here is a Q&A with President Bush after his speech at The Paul H. Nitze School of Advanced International Studies at The Johns Hopkins University in Washington, D.C. on Monday:
Q Morning, Mr. President. I have a more general question about the United States' work to democratize the rest of the world. Many have viewed the United States' effort to democratize the world -- especially nations in the Middle East -- as an imposition or invasion on their sovereign rights. Considering that it was, in fact, the Prophet Mohammed who established the first known constitution in the world -- I'm referring to the constitution he wrote for the city of Medina --and that his life and the principles outlined in his constitution, such as the championing of the welfare of women, children and the poor, living as an equal among his people, dissolving disputes between the warring clans in Arabia, giving any man or woman in parliament the right to vote and guaranteeing respect for all religions, ironically parallel those principles that we hold most precious in our own Constitution. I'm wondering how might your recently formed Iraq Study Group under the U.S. Institute for Peace explore these striking similarities to forge a new relationship with Iraqis and educate Americans about the democratic principles inherent in Islam?
THE PRESIDENT: Great question. I believe that the terrorists have hijacked a peaceful religion in order to justify their behavior. I thank you for bringing that to my attention. I will pass on your comments to James A. Baker, who is one of the chairmen of the group going to Iraq.
See, you said something really interesting. Initially, you said, people view America imposing its beliefs. And I hearken back to what I said earlier -- this fellow's question here -- that if you believe that freedom is not universal, then it could be viewed as an imposition of beliefs. I'm not saying to countries, you've got to look like us or act like us, but I am saying, you know, give your people a chance to be free. And I think it's necessary for America to take the lead on this issue. I think it is -- I think it is vital for our future that we encourage liberty, and in this case, the Middle East. And as you said, it doesn't necessarily run contrary to what the Prophet Mohammad said.
It's a -- and so how do you advance freedom? I mean, well, one thing you do is you make sure that the Lebanese have a chance to self-govern freely without Syrian interference. It's one thing you can do. Another thing you can do is work for the establishment of a Palestinian state, which I'm doing. I believe that there will be a Palestinian state that is at peace with Israel. I believe it's going to have to be a democracy -- again, a Palestinian-style democracy -- to achieve that. But in my -- early in my presidency, I said it's in our interest that there be two states, side-by-side in peace, and we're working toward that end.
You know, part of the debate here that I'm sure you're discussing is whether or not the United States should insist upon elections before everything is right. You hear the -- the civil society has to be just right before you can have elections. I disagree strongly with that. I think elections are the beginning of the process, not the end.
And I found the elections that Hamas won very instructive and very interesting. It was -- to me, it was a final condemnation of the Arafat era, where people said, we're sick of corruption; we want better health care and better education; we want -- we actually want our leaders to focus on the people, not on their self interests.
And because I believe in two states, side-by-side in peace, and therefore expect the government of both to be peaceful toward each other, we're not going to deal with a government that has announced that they want to destroy Israel. On the other hand, we will help the Palestinian people. And I believe a democracy will eventually yield the state necessary to be side-by-side with Israel in peace.
The success of a democracy in Iraq -- and as I told you, I think we're going to succeed; as a matter of fact, I know we are if we don't lose our nerve -- will send a powerful signal. Imagine the signal it will send to people in Iran that are not free right now. I believe the women's movement is going to be the leading edge of changing the Middle East. I don't believe women want to live as second-class citizens. I believe -- I believe it's -- I believe there's a universal desire to be treated fairly and equally.
And so I think -- look, I'm pleased with the progress. I was reading the other day where Kuwaiti women are running for office. It's a positive sign, you know? We've got to be realistic about what's possible, but we've got to be firm in our belief that freedom is possible and necessary. Otherwise -- I'll repeat to you -- a system that says, okay, let's just tolerate the tyrant so long as everything seems okay, didn't work.
That's one of the lessons of the attack on the United States. You know, the world seemed fine, didn't it? It seemed kind of placid -- there was a bubble here, a bubble there. But everything seemed all right. And yet, beneath the surface, there was tremendous resentment. And it's now come to the -- and so how do you defeat their -- now, if you don't think they have a ideology or a point of view, and/or a strategy to impose it, you're not going to understand why you think the United States ought not to be as active as we are.
But I believe differently. I believe they're bound -- these folks are bound by an ideology. I know that they have got desires. They say it. This is one of -- this is a different -- this is a war in which the enemy actually speaks out loud. You heard the letter I wrote -- read from -- they didn't speak out loud on this one, but nevertheless, it's a -- we've got to take their word seriously. When the enemy speaks, it makes sense for our military, our intelligence, the President to take the word seriously so we can adapt and adjust.
Anyway, very interesting question. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Yes, ma'am.
APF-
"hot sorority babes..Lipstick..." Your priorities make more sense than the course and it wasn't a total loss.
Robert,
Good article. I share your frustrations. But have hope. There is a growing negivtive view towards Islam which is reflected in a CBS poll.
Here is the article and URL :
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/04/12/national/main1494697.shtml?source=RSS&attr=U.S._1494697
Anyway, very interesting question. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Yes, a very interesting question indeed. A softball -- stuffed with misinformation, distortion, errors of omission and commission -- that even a dhimmi-wit president could knock out of the park. Who was that masked reporter shilling for CAIR?
Almost 5 years after 9/11 -- with Iraq convulsing towards civil war, Iran within weeks of obtaining the Islamic bomb, and the Saudis pumping billions of recycled petrodollars into mosques, madrassas, and Arab-Islamic studies departments all around the world, Bush continues to regurgitate the "religion of peace hijacked by a tiny minority of extremists" mantra, gloats about leading the call for an Islamic terror state (though democratically elected) on Israel's doorstep, and has the unmitigated chutzpah to suggest that Mohammad's teachings are not inconsistent with democracy and the US Constitution.
Who can fault the yellow, politically-correct media for failing to name the enemy when our Commander In Chief has been providing such a shining example for the last five years?
THE PRESIDENT: "Great question. I believe that the terrorists have hijacked a peaceful religion in order to justify their behavior."
Oh dear Mr Bush, muslim terrorists have NOT hijacked
islam, rather, islam has hijacked muslims.
Tom Burnett's high school retired his football jersey.
F allah. It ain't my God.
Hearing allahu akbar doesn't strike fear in my heart. Hearing allahu akbar MAKES ME ANGRY!!!
Last fall when going through security at the airport, my elbow touched the side of the metal detector. And it did set it off. The officer on the other side looked at me like I was a hijacker. I said oh I hit the side. Anyhoo, he smiled and said have a good trip after making me go back through again. I was wearing a small t-shirt and capri pants and was barefooted going through it. He must have thought this middle-aged white woman swallowed a bomb.
I've been lucky not to have flown with middle eastern men since 9/11, and everyone knows that while waiting for boarding, if I see more than one on my plane, I refuse to get on. I would take a different flight. I know it's not PC to profile, but I'm sure most people who do fly,
wish they would.
It maybe isn't just about cowardice in the MSM or about them having their own agenda. Maybe they just can't bring themselves to believe the sheer enormity of what is in front of them. I mean for years I just couldn't believe it because it just seemed so daft and unhuman.
Our society is so gentle and reasonable and civilised that anybody brought up in it is going to have a hard time getting their heads around the idea that a whole religion wants us out of the way. If I hadn't been pointed at this site by a friend I don't think that I could have understood it, but Robert's and Hugh's and Rebecca's explanations and reading some of the people who have a knowledge of moslem works here helped me to put the reasoning in place and to see Islam for what it is.
But having backpacked in the middle east and stayed with some moslem famillies that I got to know through knowing their sons and daughters at Uni I don't want to see them dead or anything I just wish that they could wake up and come and join us. I got nothing but hospitality and kindness from them as I did from all the Jewish and Druze friends I made in Israel.
Dominic.
Boycott (refuse to read/watch/listen to) any news outlets that do not report the news accurately. Send emails/letters to a few of their sponsors/advertisers (in addition to the contacts for the news outlet itself) telling them why you won't buy their products as long as they sponsor(NBC Dateline, New York Times, CNN, etc.) and be sure to tell them why and show a brief example of false or misleading reporting.
I did this a couple of years ago and I've never regretted it.
Isn't it rather amazing how a bunch of burger eating cowboys brought down the great Islamic Freedom Fighters. What does the rest of the world have to say about that? Oh, I forgot, no planes crashed in Pennsylvania, or it was shot down by a paper airplane in the area (conflicting conspiracy theories). Flight 93 was the first retaliation in the War on Terror.
Freewoman says "I've been lucky not to have flown with middle eastern men since 9/11,
How do you know? Was it bearded men shouting Allahu Akbar that you are looking for? And for that matter , do you hate bearded men per say from now on.
Freewoman says "and everyone knows that while waiting for boarding, if I see more than one on my plane, I refuse to get on. I would take a different flight. I know it's not PC to profile, but I'm sure most people who do fly,
wish they would".
That's not profiling ...call it by what you really mean...you are being racist...I don't mind...but just call it straight.
Anyway I suppose you are doing that to improve the chances of your survival....Well sister...only Allah SWT can do that.
Remember also if sometime in the future when you need a blood transfusion...never forget that it could have been a muslim who donated it to save your life...or are you going to be PC about that too.
Salam
Only one good thing about this whole transcript...at least the translation says *allah* and not God. That friends is a change.
Notice how Naseem has absolutely no compassion whatsoever for any of the Infidels on those planes who were just going about their business when they were all brutally murdered in the name of their satanic deathgod by her fellow followers of the world's most peaceful religion?
So she throws out the race card in an effort to try to make us all feel guilty for having natural survival instincts which cause us to be worried for our personal safety and the safety of our children when we find ourselves in the presence of other deathcult followers.
Even the most complete transcripts fail in the simplest sense: no attributions, for the most part.
If the best Arabic speakers in military intelligence, together with every family member involved in Flight 93 (and West-sympathetic Muslim members of the terrorists' families... if any) got together and relistened to the tapes over and over and over, I'm sure they could determined almost every voice, and then might have the transcipts assembled to read at least 93 times more accurately.
They should look more like:
-"Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greater!" in Arabic) -screamed by Ahmed Al- Nami; hijacker #3 as a pot of boiling hot water is likely thrown in his face -either by Flight Attendant CeeCee Lyle or Sandra Bradshaw.
-"Let's get 'em!"- (yelled from behind the still-closed cockpit door as a fight erupts with the two hijackers guarding this door) spoken by passenger TODD BEAMER.
Etc, etc.
As it has been presented, it is an unnecessarily-abstract guessing game for a reader to determine what the hell was specifically going on.
Cryptologic voice interception analysts, speach coaches and the blind -whose hearing is far more subtle than the average person's- could have joined with the families and pieced-together a real transcript with serious attributions.
This purposeful vagueness is so p.c. it sickens.
The heroic citizen-warriors on Flight 93, rising against the jihad, deserve far better.
Naseem, why didn't you respond to my post about women and power??
First of all , I have nothing against beards. As a matter of fact my husband has a beard. And I love it.
Islam is not a race. Get that through your thick head.
Does allah approve of giving life saving blood to infidels?
And call it what you may, if I see several middle eastern men boarding my plane, I WILL get a different flight. And yes sista, I believe in profiling. After all, it wasn't the Boy Scouts that hijacked the planes on 9/11.
I've been lucky not to have flown with middle eastern men since 9/11, and everyone knows that while waiting for boarding, if I see more than one on my plane, I refuse to get on. I would take a different flight. I know it's not PC to profile, but I'm sure most people who do fly,
wish they would.
I would venture a guess that the mujahedin are wise to the profiling business; we've heard before that they're actively seeking "Western"-looking recruits for their operations.
Besides, "men of Middle Eastern appearance" is painting with a broad brush. What appears to fit that image be Hindu, Jewish, Christian, Spanish, Latino, Italian, Slavic, southern German or "black Irish" (US usage).
Men with dark hair and beards get enough of a raw deal when traveling. My dad is one of them, so I've witnessed firsthand that the thing about beard guys has been in many a security playbook well before 9/11.
I've got to say I'm actually with Naseem on this one. I can't afford not to take the flight I booked, and I figure there are so many variables that are out of my hands at that point, anyway. Weather, pilot error, and hey-- the terrorist might be the guy with the mohawk in the Gwar t-shirt, and, while the man of Middle-Eastern appearance might be the air marshall.
Everything's in the hands of (your deity here) at all times anyway. It's just more obvious when so many things are beyond one's control.
"Oh dear Mr Bush, muslim terrorists have NOT hijacked
islam, rather, islam has hijacked muslims."
Worse still: PC has hijacked Bush.
I think you're great Ironman.
Shinolite, my middle name isn't moneybags, but it's worth it to me for my own sanity to change planes. And I would even be willing to cancel my trip.
We've read how security in airports aren't that great. Things get through. As a matter of fact, I had forgotten about a lighter I had in my purse last time I flew, and no one noticed it.
Granted one takes a chance flying, drunk pilots, ducks in the engine, landing gear problems or whatever. But, if that little voice in my head tells me something is wrong with this picture, I'm going to listen.
Bin Laden and rest of the plotters of the 9/11 killings will go down in history as the people who finally put Islam to death.
The culture is in its death throes already - people. Islam is as fragile as a Chinese wristwatch and gives just about the same inaccurate reckoning of time. Islam will never withstand the juggernauts of Progress and Universal Human Rights and interconnectedness (this internet stuff). Defenders of Islam will never succeed given how easy and quick it is to find the authentic texts and how simple it is to hook up with people on sites like this and others.
The weight of the world is on their shoulders, not ours.
We have abundance and blessing in this world. They have empty promises.
When we do finally come together and define the problem appropriately the battle will be more than half won.
Flight 93 is a scale model of the whole thing. The cowards got the first sucker punches in, but people contacted others via cellphones, found out what was happening, adjusted their thinking, came together and attacked the Jihadis. The jihadis fell to earth short of their goal. It took a real fight to get it done. In the end we will have to fight on a large scale to shake the Muslims out of their collective fantasy. The cold war could stay cold until the demise of the Soviet system because, behind it all, the leaders were focused on this world, not the next. The leaders of this new war are focused on the afterlife. They are apocalyptic.
We won't be able to convince them to change their minds. They will have to be destoyed to the last.
Other members of the Ummah will see this and recant or deny ...
Nothing succeeds like success - nothing will change those persons until they are shown by the examples of their leaders. They will scatter like the sheep they are.
a) Strike the shepards and the sheep will be dispersed.
b) Pull down the pillars of the temple al Islam. All five + jihad.
c)Marshall plan revisited.
Much needs to be asked of the infidel people. We will respond in kind. We need our leaders to identify the problem appropriately and ask for participation and sacrifice. the People of the infidel world will respond. Many people already want to respond. They need to be given the proper venue. We need leaders.
"... the man of Middle-Eastern appearance might be the air marshall."
Geez, Shinolite, you're beginning to scare me.
A few months after 9/11, I came through Logan Airport. A non-English speaking security person (gotta stay neutral neutral neutral) swiped my backside with the wand, and got the whoop. I remembered my spare car key in my wallet, explained what it was and offered to remove the wallet and display the key. No, no, no need to slow the line, move along. In the holding area were 5 ME-appearing men, young, all keeping a notable separation from each other, say 20 feet or so, but not talking to anyone else, and occasionally taking what looked like furtive glances at each other. I watched when they got on, if they were all forward in the cabin I was leaving. But they were scattered, none forward, and the flight went quietly. Spooky, really.
I'd rather die than take blood from some Islamic scumbag but there are plenty of "Normal" people who would be stepping up to the plate...friends and family.
Naseem...ready for that belly dance?
profitsbeard said
I agree 100%. Without the tape, or context, the "transcript" is meaningless. And we will apparently never hear the tape. Your description of what the transcript should look like is perfect. Why did the families of the victims have to fight so hard, just to be able to listen to the tape one time?
Man, you got that right. I often drive past Tom Burnett Lane (named in his honor), fills me with rage every time.
Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar.
Thats what the co-pilot, of the Egypt Air flight that crashed of the eastcoast, was screaming. The mainstream media claimed he was praying to help himself pull out of his self-inflicted nose dive. When the co-pilot waited for the pilot leave, then turned off the auto-pilot, then pushed the control stick all the way forward.
The government claimed, and the mainstream media backed up, that the crash was an accident.
Quijybo said
I think the CAIR paper tiger is about to blow away in the wind. They've lost their last two court cases. With prejudice. They can bully and bluster all they want, but they got nothin'. Just like the jihadists themselves.
People in the United States are in a hurry. They don't want to wait around for things to change very long. After 5 years of 'war on terror' they begin to re-think things when they see the Cartoon Riots and such. They will only give the Ummah a limited time to turn things around. When it doesn't happen in 5 years and when events seem to be growing in urgency and the pace of it all accelerates - then the tipping point is reached.
Too many People are changing their minds now. Anti-jihad is gaining momentum....
Longtimelurker-- not to worry. What you quoted before needs to be taken in the context of the rest of that particular posting, particularly that:
1.) We know the terrorists are looking for "Western"-looking operatives, and
2.) Gauging someone's religion/ethnicity/nationality from appearance is an inexact science anyway, hence the litany of possible errors in my post above.
A handy, absurd example: I once briefly dated a guy who took it upon himself to insist to me that I was partly Italian. He thought the fact that much of my ancestry is from southern Germany still somehow proved his point. *beating head on desk* Yeah, that didn't last. :)
Naseem
I agree with Freewoman, even though I am of the same race as you. If I saw people who are obviously Muslims on a flight, I'd be extremely wary of them, and if I had the option of changing my flight (depending on the circumstances of my travel plans), I'd take it.
Nor would I want any Muslim blood in my veins - like Siciliano, I'd rather have my soul liberated from my body.
Shinoliite & Freewoman
Shinoliite does have a point in that terrorists may want to hire western looking thugs, like Chechens. But if one sees people who may look like obvious terrorists, why take the risk? Not all bearded people look alike - I can tell a Muslim from a Rabbi from a Sikh. The Israelis do a great job in distinguishing Palestinians from Egyptians, let along mistake an Indian for an Arab. Just because airport personnel here are bad at making such distinctions doesn't mean that efforts shouldn't be made to improve the screening.
Infidel Pride:
If Israelis are able to readily discern Egyptians from Palestinians, that's because of their accents, which are, apparently, distinctively different. I believe David Meir-Levi wrote about Arafat that his speech was so decidely inflected with an Egyptian accent that it was the source of derision in certain circles and seen as undermining the Palestinian cause.
Quijybo:
Do you think the transcripts will be enough to finally lay to rest the blood libel that the Jews/Israel/Mossad were actually the 9/11 perps?
Infedel Pride foolishly said "Nor would I want any Muslim blood in my veins - like Siciliano, I'd rather have my soul liberated from my body".
Well die then...but before you do remember that it is not muslim blood it is type A,B AB and 0. It may just save your life.
There is no christian, hindu, muslim blood it is only those types...Allah is most merciful.
Naseem, if allah were most merciful, he wouldn't have made you a muslim woman. He would have made you a Free woman.
BTW, SWT, PBUH and the other abbreviations y'all have to say after speaking words, is as inflaming as allahu akbar.
Freewoman,
Salutatioms to the man who arguably made the greatest religion today, Mohd SAW and the maker of all things big & small Allah SWT deserve thanks from us mere mortals.
Now if you caint stand that ...tough...and I recommend you wean yourself off JW...because thanks to the maker & his messenger is not going to stop any time soon.
Sorry, don't mean to sound arrogant... but you musn't say peoples can not believe in this that or the other.
I wish you salam ...keep taking those pills too.
What pills Naseem? Your the one with delusions of granduer. There is medicene for that, you know.
Naseem, I think you're probably a really good person and you deserve an intervention.
Naseem says that "..you musn't say peoples can not believe in this that or the other."
Yet, that is exactly what the Koran says that people must do. In fact, if you refuse to believe in islam and choose to believe in a different faith then islam demands that you be torn to shreds for disbelieving.
The overt hypocrisy of the practitioners of the islamic deathcult is simply staggering.
Naseem!
Hello my dear! How's your family? Tell us about your children, and what they hope to be one day. I'm curious about your life and culture. I know about your religion, but it would be nice to hear a little about your everyday life.
Thanks!
Shinoliite,
On a flight to Europe last year, I at least got into an exit row, despite it being beside the lavatories. A huge, shaved British yob (at least 6'6", 250, and not fat, just huge) kept sweating, nervously returning to the lavatories. Hard to ignore. As soon as the passengers were free to leave their seats, he immediately came back to the lavatories again. Just as I was about to grab a stewardess and draw attention (meanwhile planning how to break his knees on the first attack because he was too big for me to grapple with for long), he just keeled over on the floor in front of me. Seems he had a bit of anxiety about flying. Made the first few hours of the trip go by quicker.
So I guess you could say I'm open to anyone being a threat.
The news reports here in Oz the other night had no qualms about saying that "allah akbar" was said several times during the hijacking, by the hijackers. We're not as PeeCee as some parts of the world (yet), and thank God for that. How disgusting that media in the country that was attacked so viciously should cover for these scumbags.
Reading material is scarce in this scountry, but we do get the Time and Newsweek ( of course, they cut out all material deemed offensive by the mullah regime here).
I often see Jesus on the cover and featured in them. I cannot recall Mohamed, Koran and Allah getting the same treatment.
I just watched the BBC news about the knifings in Egypt....
Nobody is saying it in the mainstream media, but here in this little 100% muslim nation( as we like to describle ourselves), everybody KNOWS that muslims will fight the infidel until sharia law is established worldwide AND THIS WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.
Maybe arab oil money has bought up what we like to think of as the free press.
First we must address the inability of the western media to address the jihadists agenda.