'We really don't know' status of Iran nukes

"We really don't know," said Rep. Peter Hoekstra, Michigan Republican and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. "We're getting lots of different messages from their leadership."

Do we want to know?

What were those folks (Islamic Thinkers Society outside the Israeli consulate) saying yesterday in New York: "The mushroom cloud is on its way! The real holocaust is on its way!"

I'm sure it was just a practicle joke -- nothing serious.

Go back to the sports channel.

Too bad Bush shot his wad in Iraq. Now the Americans have no stomach to tackle Iran where there actually is WMD.

But maybe this is all for the best. Iran will undoubtably get their bomb, the little runt will use it, and then Islam, the Left, and PC in the West will be destroyed.

Boy, do I look forward to that. What a glorious day. All to the Snack bar!

Hoekstra: "We really don't know, we're getting lots of different messages from their leadership."

Note to Hoekstra: Decision making is the process of making rational choices in the face of imperfect information. You should come up with a rational alternative plan of your own, or else shut up.

Harmon: "I hope the White House is listening to what Pete Hoekstra just said. We don't know. Our intelligence is thin."

Note to Harmon: It appears that the intelligence is pretty thin all around Washington, amongst both the Republicans and Democrats. You, in particular, should resign for incompetence.

Here we have politicians doing business as usual. In the face of a self-proclaimed and active mortal threat to the nation, they are not expending any thought or energy at all trying to deal with the actual problem. They merely jockey for position so as to politically capitalize on the outfall from any decision the President actually takes. They are not worthy of their prestigious titles.

Most terrifying, policymakers are assuming Iran must "develop" a weapon. While true at some level, technology transfer of 60 year old technology is the logical route to nuclear weapons. There are persistent stories from reliable sources that Iran received actual nuclear weapons from former Soviet republics. There's no doubt they have the plans. The IAEA said as much. Then there's the P-2 centifuges and whatever else A.Q. Khan transferred to Iran. Not to mention North Korea's ongoing tech sales to Iran, and Soviet-Russian brain drain.

Iran has Ukranian cruise missiles, and Iranian copies of North Korean missiles for delivery, along with the dangerous unknown.

Meanwhile op-eds focus on "international law" preventing the United States from acting, but remain notably silent about a UN member state repeatedly threatening to destroy Israel and the United States. I don't have the hornbook on international law, but I thought threats of democide-genocide were viewed with some seriousness, until now.

The sooner GWB launches an air strike on known targets the sooner the United States can gather intelligence from the reaction. Or we can wait and hope for the best. I guess that would be a complete ideology and leadership change from the present regime. I'd like a million dollars for my birthday while we're banking on unlikely scenarios.

If we wait too long, Israel will be forced to act. That could lead to regional war or quickly escalate to a nuclear conflict. If Israel commits, it must follow through, win, or risk destruction. American conventional capabilities for an overwhelming air stike are far more robust and suitable for taking on Iran. Israel has a primarily defensive air force, not one organized around power projection. It's the best defensive air force in the world, but notably absent B-2's, F-117's, B-52's, B-1's, and other large bombers.

Instead of jaw-jacking with Iran's trading partners and military hardware suppliers, the United States should be listing Iran's many acts of war against the United States.

Trying to apply international norms of behavior or international law to Iran is pounding square pegs in round holes. Iran will never "declare" war. In Islam, they declare peace, and only up to ten years. They'll have no qualms about striking Tel Aviv or any civilian target as infidels are never innocent people.

It appears the world has resigned itself to, and Iran is baiting, an Israeli first strike. "Experts" claim an American attack would spike oil prices, as if that's the critical issue. If Israel is forced to act I can't see the oil issue resolving better.

After 25+ years of threats, military incidents, and terrorism, we get "don't know"? That's unacceptable considering the billions we spend on knowing. This isn't an overnight plan for capturing a medical school in Grenada.

Next it will be, "Oops! Iran has nukes."

This is what happens when you talk endlessly without actually taking action.

The Bush Administration is moving too much towards dealing with such generation-defining issues in the "enlightened" European manner, which has the nasty habit of producing things like World War II.

We are overthinking the issue of whether Iran has or will soon have Nukes.
Starting from a concept in 1941 the US built a workable Atomic weapon by 1945.
Now building a nuclear weapon maybe "rocket science" but the information has been out there for 60 years. Iranian scientists have been educated in the West or in Russia or China, all nuclear powers with education programs in nuclear science.
Information transfers from Pakistan and North Korea have been outed.
Even if the Iranians are morons (and I am not saying they are)they have been working on this project for years, they should already have the bomb. To argue that they are years away from having the bomb is foolish. If they are too stupid to have been able to develope it, then they are too stupid to be playing with this dangerous form of technology, and their facilities still should be destroyed.

Regarding the habit of the USA to take over countries with oil or other resources and to establish a new american world order, I consider it very reasonable of Iran to develop nuclear bombs. Just as a threat of course, but without them, the USA could do the same to Iran what they did to Iraq. Or Vietnam.

Mid way through last year the Iranians started crowing that they had the means to hurt any that attacked them. I think that they had got a nuclear weapon of some sorts and the means to deliver it. At this point I think thay have around three nukes and those Ukranian cruise missiles, they also modified one of their own designed missile to take a nuclear bomb.

The Iranian leadership has threatened a number of countries, Israel, USA and Britain, and used aggresive warlike language. What does it take for the morons in power to understand that these people mean what they say, they want war with the West. They obviously have some of the Mullahs making smoothing noises etc., so that our people think that there is a chance of Iran deciding to back down, bollocks!!!

As far as I am concerned, we need to totally crush Iran, so that he Islamics will be scared to even fart in our direction. I am fed up with this pathetic excuse for a religion and its blinded brain dead followers, whilst I pity them I also hate them for their arrogance and their blind faith drivern stupidity and their manipulative destruction of all that I held dear, namely freedom of expression and the UDHR and the chance of one world living together with mutual respect and freedom.

singlenotlooking, very apt name, well I hope that when they use it your in the middle of it..., the only shame is that you won't have the chance to say, "How can I have been so stupid...."

what a mean thing to say, daffersd, just because you disagree with me. But I would never wish anything like that on you. Many that's the difference between us.

Terrifying. I am torn between the desperate need for the U.S. to act quickly on Iran and the sickeningly queasy feeling that bumbling idiots (Bush, Rumsfeld)with a proven track-record for failure will be the ones to do it.

The invasion of Iraq was the greatest military catastrophe in the history of the U.S.

Well it was a bit mean and, actually I don't wish it on you, I meant to type I almost wish..., but what a stupid comment, you don't have a clue about Islam, perhaps if you bothered to read about it you might actually realise what a completely daft comment it was, perhaps almost as daft as my comment.

Regarding the habit of the USA to take over countries with oil or other resources and to establish a new american world order, I consider it very reasonable of Iran to develop nuclear bombs. - singlenotlooking

Drat! We've been found out again here in the US. Just don't tell anyone that wherever we bring our New World Order next, we're gonna make "Funky Town" the national anthem.

But seriously, about this business of allegedly taking over "countries with oil or other resources": Let's review.

- We went into Germany and Japan in WWII to help the civilized world keep those countries from establishing their respective New World Orders, which, you have to admit, would not have been a party.
- We went into Korea and Vietnam to stem the tide of communism's desire to impose its New World order on the rest of us.
- We went to war with Iraq the first time because Saddam invaded Kuwait, part of his megalomaniacal vision of a Greater Iraq as a resurrected Babylon. A new, brutal world power, if not a New World Order.
- We went into Afghanistan because it was harboring terrorists who killed 3000 people on 9/11. Seriously. Oil and other resources? Afghanistan's got nothing.

If Uncle Sam wakes up and smells the coffee, he'll realize it's not just the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but that they're both part of a larger Islamic movement to establish one nasty New World Order.

- Lastly, what have we gotten out of Iraq, with respect to oil? Nada. If we were really exploiting that, I can't imagine average gas prices would be pushing the $3 mark.

New World Order? Nah.

Beagle said:

"Iran will never "declare" war. In Islam, they declare peace, and only up to ten years."

I nominate you for whatever office you wish to hold.

This is a notable distinction that all of the leaders of the West cannot seem to grasp. Islam is always in a state of war with Dar al Harb. They do not need to declare it according to their own beliefs. The ignorant rest of the world seems to be waiting for some type of announcement.

Haven't we had enough declarations in terms of actions already? Is anybody paying attention?

singlenotlooking wrote: "Regarding the habit of the USA to take over countries with oil or other resources and to establish a new american world order . . . without them, the USA could do the same to Iran what they did to Iraq. Or Vietnam."

What countries has the USA "taken over" lately? What oil did the USA seize, from anywhere? What resources has the USA taken from Iraq? from Vietnam?

Your attitude is breathtaking in its pig ignorance.

The issue in Iran is the same issue as in all the unfortunate regions controlled by Islam. All technology that comes their way is regarded as a "gift from Allah" that is to be applied to the only purpose that they find acceptable and legitimate--the spread of Islam across the globe. Everything they receive, by gift, by hook, or by crook, is applied to jihad: cell phones are used to trigger bombs, video cameras are used to canvas targets and make beheading videos, airliners are used to demolish skyscrapers, the internet is used to spread vicious ideological propaganda and beheading videos, and so on. Nothing whatsoever is applied to the improvement of the living conditions of humanity on earth (aside from spreading the loot amongst the Islamic warlords). Islam is not about living peacefully and productively on this earth in service to human progress--it is solely about death in service to Allah.

Accordingly, the Islamic countries don't see their oil as an opportunity to improve the lot of the population at large. Rather, oil is a weapon to finance jihad by funding terror cells across the globe, to build propaganda- and hate-spreading mosques behind enemy territory, and to purchase weapons for jihad, including, yes, atomic weapons.

Thus, the atomic weapons that are being built in Iran are not defensive at all. They will be applied by the Muslims, as all other technology from the west is applied, to aggressive jihad. Their threats to annihilate Israel physically are real, ideologically pure, and sincere. Their threats to hit the United States with nuclear horror, as soon as the opportunity arises, are just as real. Sooner or later.

If the USA were really an empire hell bent on taking over the earth, we would have seized the oil fields everywhere, and then pumped the wells dry for pennies a barrel. Instead, we in the West have paid out $10 trillion, as reported here at JW/DW numerous times, to the Islamic oil cartel. And that treasure is being used to finance the Islamic empire, which is a real empire, an inherently violent and intolerant one to say the least, and which is, in truth, hell bent on taking over the earth.

You, singlenotlooking, are on the side of the real empire. You by your bigoted pig ignorance are serving the Islamic cause of subjugation, intolerance, and death.

To singlenotlookingnotlisteningnotthinking:- Where do you lot come from? We had your 'sister' also from Germany here yesterday. You say 'I consider it very reasonable of Iran to develop nuclear bombs, just as a threat of course'. Iran's purpose for acquiring nuclear weapons is not for defensive purposes as Ahmadinejad has stated. Their rationale is beyond your comprehension. These mullahs strive for that day when they can eliminate Israel and restore the Caliphate. They know they'll die in the process, but there will be a great reward in heaven waiting for them. So to them it's win-win. You should spend your time protesting to the Iranian government about the treatment of their women and the lack of basic human rights.

singlenotlooking have you any common sense left in your leftist head? l think the US pays the muslim horder very well for their oil. infact they pay very well for Cdn oil as well? are you from a paraelle universe? what rock did you crawal out from?

singlenotlooking have you any common sense left in your leftist head? l think the US pays the muslim horde very well for their oil. infact they pay very well for Cdn oil. are you from a another universe? what rock did you crawl out from?

Really excellent comments on this subject and great critical thinking. Dont beat up singlenotlooking so much. We're all entitled to make comments. SNL just needs to rethink the issue. Beagle made excellent points I think, but why is it that America has to solve the Iranian issue? After Iraq, it should be a joint EU/UN decision on how to deal with the Iranians. As much as I want to blow them out of the desert, it should be an international action, otherwise, we look like the bad guy, imperialist all over. We can contribute the hardware but I want the buy-in from all the other countries (which so far, hasnt worked). I understand EU has a history of appeasement, but their views are changing I think.

The ignorance of some truly amazes me. People who don't see the evil of Islam really need to get educated....real quick.

The takeover of Iraq was truly a military genius..the aftermath was a total blunder by the Bush Administration. Iran loves us in Iraq...we keep busy there trying to keep order in a quagmire of warring sects...Sunnis vs Sheites. If our military wasn't so bogged down by the blunders of the Bush clan do you really think the moron ahead of Iran would be rattling his mouth so much? just look what Qudaffi did after the fall of Baghdad...If we weren't in Iraq it would be Iran's problem to keep order in Iraq because it would spill right into Iran.

Just like in North Korea it seems the shortman syndrome powers the sick bastards.

lol, daffers, ok, maybe I should read more about islam, even the quran, but that seems too much effort. And besides, if you read the bible, you'll find loads of bloodthirsty passages too, and for all I know, the quran copied parts of the bible and other scriptures.
But I informed myself about us foreign policy, therefore I believe people like shino, western, stendec and lulu only (want to) see half the picture.

"We really don't know," said Rep. Peter Hoekstra, Michigan Republican and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. "We're getting lots of different messages from their leadership."

The above comment is quite ludicrous, as the intelligence community (CIA etc) DO NOT get their information from politicans.

In a previous quote , we heard that Iran would have Nulcear Weapons capability within 16 days.

It is apparent that our politicians are ill-informed.

maybe I should read more about islam, even the quran, but that seems too much effort.

your to lazy to be listened to.

Peter...I think our politicians are just ill....let alone ill informed.

Daffrsd

"well I hope that when they use it your in the middle of it...,"

Lulu

"what rock did you crawal out from?"

NOT very nice, even if the comment by singlenotlooking was leadfooted.

Calling people names just because you do not agree with them is mean and very disrespectful.

Siciliano

Yes ! I think you are right.

I am very discouraged by the ineffectiveness of the IAEA aswell.

Almost all of the scenarios I've read about on JW/DW involve Iran and Isreal. Mr. DinnerJacket is a Twelver and wants to spread chaos to bring in the 12th imman.

One scenario is that he strikes Saudi Arabia first to bring chaos to the world oil market, and as a delightful side effect, kill a few million innocent, liberal Arab muslims, which BTW, is ok with OBL.

This is more than a war about oil.

Peter is you read the original comment by this singlenotlooking, you will who was the real offender. he/she can say what they want, but back up what you have said. l dont mind reading a good argument when it has some facts, and some logic behind, but statements such as : habit of the USA to take over countries with oil or other resources and to establish a new american world order, I consider it very reasonable of Iran to develop nuclear bombs. Just as a threat of course, but without them, the USA could do the same to Iran what they did to Iraq. Or Vietnam.

What country has the US taken over? with or without oil? l mean l live in Canada, and so far the US pays world prices for our oil.
What is " New American World Order",
Then the last one is a doozy..with Iran's continued attacks on the right of Israel to simply exist? to say they will destroy Israel, and then their big satan the US will be destroyed.
This person is too lazy to read all the news, and historical facts.
No l was right to say "What rock did you crawl from "... if that was to harsh for you...you have the problem.

you've never heard anything of the new american world order, lulu? You're less educated than even I expected.
It was a paper called "Pax Americana", figured out by a think tank of the US defense ministry, including Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Bush and others. Even before 9/11 they planned to attack iraq, iran and libya both as a preventive measure and a way to spread US power. 9/11 was just a handy excuse, lulu, just google for it or try to get other information before embarrassing yourself too much.

singlenotlooking posts

"Even before 9/11 they planned to attack iraq, iran and libya both as a preventive measure and a way to spread US power. "

Didn't bill clinton launch an attack on Iran, and say that regime change was our goal in Iraq? IIRC it was on or about December 1998.

yes, surfer, but I doubt that Clinton knew anything of that think tank, actually, for me it's a scandal they had figured that out before. If I'm not mistaken, they did it in 2000. I even used that info for an essay then, so I made really sure it was no fake.

It seems there is little information regarding the secret Nuclear Weapons Development program undertaken by Iran, and any we receive just seems to be speculation.
But, what is clear is that they are enriching Uranium.

It is important to understand that the type of delivery system is more important than the payload. what I find very worrying is the degree to which they have progressed in these delivey systems, namely the SHAHAB-3 and SHAHB-4.

The SHAHAB-3 is operational and has a range upto 2100Km, with an apogee (orbital height) of 150Km, and it has Mobile capability.

Note: the "apogee" takes it outside the operating envelope of the Patriots which the U.S. developed for Isreal

In addition, this missile can change its trajectory several times during re-entry and even in the terminal phase, effectively preventing pre-calculated intercept points of radar systems - which is a method nearly all ABM systems using these days

Whatever ordernance payload the Iranians attach to this missile, I believe will succeed in hitting its target.

It is shameful to think that it was the Chinese and Russians who gave this technolgy to the Iranians and that they are members of the Security Council.

Russia AND China, have also helped N. Korea and Pakistan develop these weapons.

If you would like to see what other countries have look here !

http://www.missilethreat.com/missiles/

singlenotlooking:- I'm starting to warm to you because of your sense of honesty and humility. I'll be gentle with you because of your tender years and naivety.(That's not intentionally patronising). The education system you've been born into has led you to believe the underdog is the victim of the oppressor. With this mindset you will never be able to evaluate right from wrong, good from evil. The Americans aren't a paragon of virtue, who is? They didn't know Iraq and Iran were two different countries before 9/11 let alone which quarter of the globe they lay. One thing is for sure, they wouldn't saw your head of if they disagreed with your point of view. Look instead of finishing your final year in Media Studies, take some time out. Forget about the detail of the koran, try reading St. John's Gospel. Then reflect on the world around you. My sincerest regards.

Dear Western Infidel,

no need to propose to me, my nickname is a lie and I'm happily married, and probably 10 years older than you.
You seem quite clever too, so it's rather sad you don't want to see the whole picture, but anyway.
Regarding the protest against inhumanity in Iran, I trust you wrote - like me - protest letters to the Iranian govt. against the death penalty of Delara Darabi and Nazanin, two girls who were sentenced to death. One of them only defended herself and her little niece against three grown up men and stabbed one of them by mistake. Even in the USA this would have been self-defence, but in Iran, they want to kill her. Now, both cases are on appeal after the protests and the girls are safe for the moment. But I'm sure you know that, being so committed yourself.
Kind regards.

singlenotlooking says: "Regarding the habit of the USA to take over countries with oil or other resources and to establish a new american world order,...."

Once again, folks, our adversaries have succeeded in changing the subject with their usual strawman. And once again, folks, you fell into their rhetorical trap. This is what I'm constantly up against in my own discussions: Someone invariably says, "But what about...." followed by some wild (and usually unsupported) charge about America. They constantly attempt to change the subject to make America the issue, not only because they just can't deal with the subject we're discussing, but also to put us patriots on the defensive.

We need to get out of this trap. My usual reply to this is: "Sir, your question is off-topic for this forum. A complete history of America and of the world since 1789 would be only part of the answer to your objections. And we don't have time for such digressions right now, because entire college courses and seminars deal with that stuff. So if you want to discuss America's track record, you'll have to find another forum. Now, as I was saying,...." and then I get right back to slamming the Left, slamming Islamic terrorism, etc.

That's it! In debate, as well as in war, the best defense is a good offense. Don't respond to diversionary tactics.

I wasn't aware I'm your adversary, stephen. I thought the usa are part of the topic of Iran.

how many times have we won wars,and NOT taken their lands,o.k we left some bases there,to keep em in line.Then we turn around and build back up,that witch we had to destroy in the war,because they were stupid.I for one think are government IS crooked.The government is NOT America,it is the American public that is America.

Americans always try to do the right thing
after they've tried everything else.- Winston Churchill

The best thing that is gunna come out of the war with islam,when it comes to american shores,man-to-man.I beleive we will also clean out the bad apples of the government.

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that
their people preserve the spirit of resistance?-Thomas Jefferson

my nickname is a lie , this said by a singlenotlooking is a proven person who lies, like clinton, l dont trust people who lie. like muhammud and his followers all liers. your pax Americana is another lie, you can take it both ways you chose the dark side.
l will only say this once, The US is the only world power to date, that has done more good by more saving and helping out people than any other country. is the US perfect no, but l dont see another one comparable to the US. you are one of th left who belongs to the Hate AMerica crowd, l will not waste my time, since you cannot name a country that US has stolen/ taken its natural resources..etc.

Ahmen Lulu

Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried.
- Winston Churchill

hi Lulu

I did read the previous post/article, but You have to admit your comment was not very complimentary, and neither were the others.

My feeling is that if an article is controversial we should not resort to calling each other names just because they say something disagreable.

Let us leave those type of comments for when people are getting hurt or killed.

This is a great website, full of informative comments, but I do see a tendency sometimes to
lash out.

The "wars for oil" canard seems particularly ill-timed if you look at the gas pumps. It's so very easy to determine where oil and gas come from with this new-fangled Innernut thingy we'z posting on right now.

See, there's a world market. We pay market prices.

If you're looking for a nation gobbling up reserves in the ugliest possible ways (Sudan), look to the Far East and the inscrutable - but really ham-handed - Chinese.

Lulu

I would like to add that I am happy to receive any criticism for comments which I make that are not true.
But I take offense at name calling, purely because it brings this wonderful forum into disrepute.

Politicians on the House intelligence panel and all the other people in the high places in the government haven’t known what has been going on in the Middle East since the 1980's. From that time until before 9-11 there have been many acts of terrorism where red flags should have been displayed all over the world. Enough so that severe action should have been taken in the 1990's. The EU, UN, and the US has failed to realize the Jihadist mindset of the Muslim all over the world. The EU and especially the UN are still inclined to babysit them. When the situation can lead to nothing but a disaster and no country makes a move to stop it - then the US seems to be the only one to step forward. Then when the US takes action everyone hammers on the US. Nobody hammers on the do-nothings who aid and enable the criminals.

I would like to quite Gordon Sinclair - a great Canadian Journalist;

"LET'S BE PERSONAL" Broadcast June 5, 1973 CFRB, Toronto, Ontario

Topic: "The Americans"

The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the world.

As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtse. Well, Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did, that's who.

They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Mississippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. And I was there. I saw that.

When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped.

The Marshall Plan... the Truman Policy... all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. And now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans.

I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes.

Come on... let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or a women on the moon?

You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are right here on our streets in Toronto, most of them... unless they are breaking Canadian laws... are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here.

When the Americans get out of this bind... as they will... who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the bonds, let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes.

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both of them are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.

Can you name to me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their noses at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles.

I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.

This year's disasters... with the year less than half-over... has taken it all and nobody... but nobody... has helped.

ORIGINAL SCRIPT AND AUDIO
COURTESY STANDARD BROADCASTING CORPORATION LTD.

America should have listened to this guy.We help,and help people,but were always the bad guys

Iran will pursue their delusion Madhi-raising fantasies until they kill a lot of people. And then a lot of them die.

Those who do not love this real world around us, in all its marvelous glory, will die to deny it for a ghost's whore-house paradise.

Shun idiots who want death over a kiss, a glass of wine, a child's velvety bottom as your add baby powder, the sun across a lake in a canoe.

Iran's Mahmoud and the mad mullahs are like the walking dead.

I only wish their own young people would do what the Italians finally had the honor to do to Mussolini.

And save us the grief of having to clean up their apocalyptic insanity.

Good point about the Italian partisans.

singlenotlooking (consider singlenouselooking)
Simple quiz Einstein..what country has the the U.S. "taken over?" Don't give me any native American info please. That s*** was done by "illegal immigrants."

Peter,

Left-wing or apologists for Islam wind up merchants use those same daft comments such as US is imperialistic, the bible is as bad as the quran, etc. to wind up the people on this site.

I did not call him names, I just hoped that were they to use these defensive weapons, that he found out personally how defensive they really are.

And another thing, I and my familly are in range of their largest missile...