Oh, the staggering complexity of Islam! Only a select few can get it right. Even imams around the world misunderstand it and somehow get the harebrained idea that it teaches warfare against unbelievers.
As for the neo-Nazi connection, that's no surprise at all. The Aryan Nations is getting chummy with the mujahedin also. They recognize ideological kinship.
"What the neo-Nazi fanatic did next: switched to Islam," from the TimesOnline, with thanks to all who sent this in:
A NEO-NAZI whose ideas were said to be the inspiration for the man who let off a nail bomb in Central London in 1999 has converted to an extremist form of Islam.David Myatt, a founder of the hardline British National Socialist Movement (NSM) who has been jailed for racist attacks, has changed his name to Abdul Aziz ibn Myatt. David Copeland, who is serving six life sentences after three people died in his Soho bomb attacks, was a member of the NSM.
Myatt is reportedly the author of a fascist terrorist handbook and a former leader of the violent far-right group Combat 18. But now — in his mid-50s and sporting a red, bushy beard — he subscribes to radical Islamist views.
In an internet essay entitled From Neo-Nazi to Muslim, Myatt asks: “How was it that I, a Westerner with a history of over 25 years of political involvement in extreme right-wing organisations, a former leader of the political wing of the neo-Nazi group Combat 18, came to be standing outside a mosque with a sincere desire to go inside and convert to Islam? “These were the people who I had been fighting on the streets, I had swore (sic) at and had used violence against — indeed, one of my terms of imprisonment was a result of me leading a gang of skinheads in a fight against ‘Pakis’.”
In a later interview, Myatt supports the killing of any Muslim who breaks his oath of loyalty to Islam, and the setting up of a Muslim superstate. He describes himself as having been “staunchly opposed to non-white immigration into Britain and twice jailed for violence in pursuit of my political aims”.
He added: “I spent several decades of my life fighting for what I regarded as my people, my race and my nation, and endured two terms of imprisonment arising out of my political activities.”
But his belief is now that: “The pure authentic Islam of the revival, which recognises practical jihad (holy war) as a duty, is the only force that is capable of fighting and destroying the dishonour, the arrogance, the materialism of the West . . . For the West, nothing is sacred, except perhaps Zionists, Zionism, the hoax of the so-called Holocaust, and the idols which the West and its lackeys worship, or pretend to worship, such as democracy.
“They want, and demand, that we abandon the purity of authentic Islam and either bow down before them and their idols, or accept the tame, secularised, so-called Islam which they and their apostate lackeys have created.
“This may well be a long war, of decades or more — and we Muslims have to plan accordingly. We must affirm practical jihad — to take part in the fight to free our lands from the kuffar (unbelievers). Jihad is our duty.”...
If these nationalists, or some of them, desire to aid us, to help us . . . they can do the right thing, the honourable thing, and convert, revert, to Islam — accepting the superiority of Islam over and above each and every way of the West.”
Read it all.
And let us not forget that one of the most infamous terrorists of all time, Carlos "the Jackal", has also converted to the religion of peace. Astonishing is it not how hate-mongers and mass-murderers of all kinds are so attracted to the religion of peace:
http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/700
THE AXIS OF TERROR
Carlos the Jackal pledges alliance to Osama bin Laden
by Amir Taheri
WEEKLY STANDARD
November 24, 2003
FEW CONVICTED MURDERERS and hijackers accept the label "terrorist." One who does--indeed, who embraces terrorism as among man's "noblest pursuits"--is a Venezuelan now serving a life sentence for murder in France. He is Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, better known as "Carlos the Jackal."
He has just published a book in French to announce his conversion to Islam and present his strategy for "the destruction of the United States through an orchestrated and persistent campaign of terror." Entitled "Revolutionary Islam" (Editions du Rocher, 2003) and published under the name Ilich Ramírez Sánchez-CARLOS, the book urges "all revolutionaries, including those of the left, even atheists," to accept the leadership of Islamists such as Osama bin Laden and so help turn Afghanistan and Iraq into the "graveyards of American imperialism."
Son of a militant Communist, Ilich was sent to Moscow to study at Patrice Lumumba University, an institution set up by the KGB to train terrorists from the Third World. That was in the 1970s, when the most fashionable cause was opposition to the U.S. intervention in Indochina.
Ilich opted for the less fashionable cause of Palestine, and soon moved to Lebanon, where he trained for operations organized by George Habash's People's Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP).
Western intelligence services first noticed Ilich when he murdered two French policemen and a Lebanese informant in Paris in 1975. But the peak of his career came in 1975, when he led the team that took 11 OPEC oil ministers hostage in Vienna, then flew them to Algiers.
He spent most of the next 20 years on the run, living under assumed identities, constantly changing protectors, until his Sudanese friends finally betrayed him six years ago, when they allowed French authorities to abduct him from his home in Khartoum and fly him to Paris for trial.
In his book, Carlos recounts that he was born into a "fairly prosperous" bourgeois family. His father had attended a French school run by Catholic priests but soon rejected their beliefs. "Having lost faith in God," Carlos says, his father "looked to Marx and Lenin to fill at least part of the gap." Sánchez père was so passionate about his new creed that he named all three of his sons after the founder of Bolshevism: Vladimir, Ilich, and Lenin.
The chief interest of Carlos's book, however, lies not in the reminiscences of a bit player from the 1970s, but in the light it sheds in two areas. First, it recounts how Arab states like Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Syria, and Iraq routinely used terrorism as an instrument of state policy, often with support from the Soviet Union and its allies. And second, it illuminates the connection between radical atheism and radical religion, showing how one ideology can serve as the antechamber to another seemingly its opposite. Just as Carlos's father made Marxist-Leninist ideology his religion, so Carlos has turned his new religion into the ideology of "revolutionary Islam."
By the mid-1980s Carlos had decided that Marxism-Leninism was a dying creed. Yet its goal, the destruction of imperialism personified by the United States, remained in his view "the highest goal of humanity." Carlos had also concluded that the United States could not be destroyed by any military rival. What was needed was a campaign of terror that would separate the United States from its allies and then destroy its self-confidence. This campaign would require a large number of volunteers ready both to kill and to die for the cause. Carlos saw that only revolutionary Islam could recruit the large numbers of killers and martyrs necessary to destroy the United States.
Carlos claims that terrorism is "the cleanest and most efficient form of warfare." By killing civilians, he argues, the terrorist saps the morale of the enemy and forces its leadership to submit to the demands of the revolution or surrender. By killing a few, the terrorist saves the lives of the many. He cites several examples.
In November 1979, Iranian "students" raided the U.S. embassy in Tehran and took diplomats hostage. The Carter administration, fearful that the Americans would be executed, abandoned its "plots" against the Khomeinist revolution, and thus forestalled events that could have led to the deaths of tens of thousands of people.
Similarly, when Hezbollah suicide bombers attacked American targets in Beirut in 1983, a total of 300 Americans, including 241 Marines, were killed, forcing Washington to abandon its ambition of reshaping Lebanon. And in 1993 the murder of 18 U.S. Army Rangers in Mogadishu forced President Clinton to withdraw American peacekeepers from Somalia and abandon plans for the Horn of Africa, avoiding bigger conflicts that could have cost many more lives.
Carlos does not say why it is good for mankind to destroy the United States. His method is religious and admits of neither doubts nor counterarguments. The West is evil, and the United States is the leader of the West. Thus the United States is evil. At one point he says the United States is an incarnation of Satan (Shaytan) and should, therefore, be hated without question, just as believers hate Satan without asking why.
Carlos urges Islamist groups to conclude alliances with all radical elements, including Maoists and nationalists, in a joint campaign against the United States. He wants all radicals to rush to Afghanistan and Iraq to kill Americans, while hordes of "volunteers for martyrdom" organize suicide attacks inside the United States.
And he makes a number of forecasts: The United States will reshape Iraq, Syria will disintegrate, and Lebanon will fall apart while Hezbollah is destroyed. Kosovo will become independent, and Sudan will be carved up. Libya will surrender to the United States. Even France will be divided into smaller countries, according to what Carlos claims is a secret American plan worked out by Henry Morgenthau in the 1940s. Carlos believes that, in the medium-term at least, only two states--North Korea and Iran--will be able to resist the United States, thus representing "the last hopes of mankind." The war against the United States, then, is going to be a long one, and the Americans will win the first rounds.
One question worth exploring in all this is whether Carlos is really a Muslim. Since Islam has neither baptism nor excommunication, we have no grounds for saying he's not. But neither is there reason to think he has any authority to speak on behalf of Islam. He is an individual with a peculiar view of the world that has nothing to do with what Islam has taught for 15 centuries. Moreover, his knowledge of Islamic doctrine, theology, history, and political philosophy is almost nonexistent. He thinks the first four caliphs were members of a dynasty known as the "Rashidis," and he confuses Hajjaj Ibn Yussef, the brutal governor of Kufa, with Mansur al Hallaj, the mystic who was crucified for blasphemy.
At one point Carlos presents himself as "the voice of Islam and history." At another point he poses as an authority on theology (fiqh) and offers a plan for "reforming the faith" under which "obligations" such as prayer, fasting, and the pilgrimage to Mecca become secondary. Instead, the number one duty of Muslims becomes "fighting the United States by any means" available. He dwells on the necessity for all Muslim men to grow beards and all Muslim women to wear the "revolutionary" head-cover (the hijab) invented in Lebanon in the 1970s. He says that beards and the hijab can be used as tools of terror, to dishearten the Americans by reminding them that "their enemy Islam" is in their midst.
Carlos tells us little about the Islamic utopia that will cover the globe once Islam is established as "the sole religion of mankind." At one point he praises the Khomeinist system of rule by a mullah or group of mullahs. At another, he presents the "emirate" created by the Taliban in Afghanistan in 1998 as the model. Carlos is not interested in Chechnya, Kashmir, the Philippines, or Myanmar, where Muslim minorities are in conflict with non-Muslim states. Nor does he care if Muslims live under corrupt or even genocidal rulers, as long as those rulers are unfriendly toward the United States.
Where Islamists are fighting regimes that Carlos favors, he brands them "bandits" and "murderers." In this way he condemns Islamists who are fighting the Libyan regime. He is especially harsh on Algerian Islamist terrorists, whom he labels "gangsters." The reason is that Carlos was for years protected by the Algerian secret service.
A name-dropper, Carlos makes his own terrorist career out to have been something of historic significance. He pretends that many Arab leaders, from Muammar Qaddafi to Hafez al-Assad to Yasser Arafat, were his friends. He also claims to have known former Pakistani premier Benazir Bhutto "very well," though he does not say in what circumstances.
Carlos mentions the names of the seven men he most admires. Oddly enough, five are Palestinian Christians: George Habash, Waddi Haddad, Nayef Hawatemah, Kamal Nasser, and Naji Allosuh. Two are Muslim Arabs: the Algerian president, Abdul-Aziz Bouteflika, whom he calls "my beloved brother," and fugitive terrorist Osama bin Laden, upon whom he bestows the title of "sheikh."
Carlos's admiration for Bouteflika is based on a misunderstanding. Carlos writes that Bouteflika agreed to become president of Algeria mainly to prevent his country from being absorbed into the NATO system, "a tool of the United States." Carlos seems unaware that Algeria had already established a relationship with NATO. Indeed, at next May's NATO summit, Algeria along with three other Arab states and Israel will join a "partnership for peace" with the alliance.
Carlos is wholly dedicated to inciting Muslims to hate the United States and not at all interested in inspiring them to change the regimes that oppress them. The reason may lie in his own long association with some of the most repressive Arab regimes--regimes that, frightened by the liberation of Iraq, fear they may be the next dominoes to fall as the democratic impulse reaches the Middle East.
Amir Taheri is an Iranian journalist based in Paris.
At least in Western Europe, Islam is becoming the new Communism. Remember Roger Garaudy? He was a high ranking member of the French Communist Party who took part in Marxist/Christian dialogue for a while. THen he was expelled from the CP, formed a Marxist party of his own, then, later, converted to Islam. This was, I think, a quarter century ago, and Garaudy has since died. But he was a pioneer, it seems.
Perhaps one of his reasons was that the French working class was not going to furnish the troops to take power and remake the society. Islam, whatever its shortcomings, does appear (for the moment) to have the troops.
Neo-Nazism & Islam. Boy, Adoph and Muhammad just high-fived each other in the dark bowels.
I think this guy fell and has a serious head injury.
Islam, Neo-Nazis, the left, we're fighting a rabble.
To Free Woman;
I concur.
l think we have all concluded that islam is in the same league as neo nazis, cummunism, socialism, even the PETA crowd, radical environmentalist, these are control freeks, its their way or the killing field.
the West is slowly waking up to this menace.
In his writings, Hitler noted that a committed Communist could easily be converted to a committed National Socialist (Nazi). This makes a degree of sense, in that National Socialism and International Socialism have more similarities than differences.
There is also a fundamental commonality with Islam. The common denominator of each is that the individual is the property of the Almighty Group (call it the State or call it the Ummah), that the goal is to have the Almighty Group achieve total dominance throughout the world, that individuals may be sacrificed at will to accomplish the goals of the Group (as set by the Leadership/Imams/Mullahs), and that those outside the group who reject calls to join the group are loathsome subhumans to be subjegated or exterminated
The same personality type is likely to join any of the above movements (see "The True Believer : Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements" by Eric Hoffer). The personality type of the joiner generally includes a desire to not accept personal blame for personal failure, and to submerge self in the group
Strange bedfellows, isn't it? If all these Marxist, revolutionary elections combine with Islam, that covers quite a large part of the world ... half or more. It seems that it doesn't matter if they disagree, just so long as the "enemy of my enemy is my friend".
No wonder the coming global government of al-Mahdi looks to be more and more likely.
I wonder what will happen when the disappointment sets in after he realizes no more pints of ale with the boys or bacon with eggs for breakfast. These losers somehow manage to find each other.
Ted V.: Thanks for the info about Roger Garaudy. What a piece of work!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Garaudy
Roger Garaudy or Ragaa (born July 17, 1913, in Marseille) is a French author who drew public attention for his stance and writings as a Holocaust denier.
During World War II, Garaudy was imprisoned in Algeria, as a prisoner of war of Vichy France; he was a member of the French Communist Party who tried to reconcile Marxism with Roman Catholicism in the 1970s, and then abandoned both doctrines in favour of Sunni Islam when he became Muslim in 1982, taking his new name. He currently lives in Spain.
In 1998, a French court found him guilty of Holocaust denial and racial defamation, fining him FF 120,000 ($40,000) for his 1995 book, The Founding Myths of Israeli Politics. Endorsing the views of French Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson, the book declared that during the Holocaust, Jews were not killed in gas chambers[1]. The book was quickly translated into Arabic and Persian, and a Sudanese lawyer, Faruk M. Abu Eissa, assembled a five-man legal team to support Garaudy at his trial in Paris. The Iranian government paid some of Garaudy's fine.
Garaudy is also known to be a friend of Abbé Pierre. The year of Garaudy's conviction, Abbé Pierre endorsed the Founding Myths... and also compared the Holocaust to the supposed "atrocities" of the ancient Israelites.
Nio-nazi goes islamo-fascist... Nothing new:
13th Waffen Gebirgs Division der SS "Hanschar"(Bosnian)
21st Waffen Gebirgs Division der SS "Skanderbeg" (Albanian)
23rd Waffen Gegirgs Division der SS "Kama" (Croatian muslim)
Perhaps Slobodan had a reason or two to be so forceful in protecting his brother and sister Serbs... Check out the human rights abuses comitted by those SS units in the Balkans...
And the message is, if you are a psychopathic, violent, racist looking for companionship with like-minded people come on over to Mo's gang.
Mo guarantees you are secure and protected under him and your sick and evil predilections are sanctified and blessed. Go forth and Kill Kill Kill!
Rather than this stuff being reported you'd think they'd try to keep it covered up?
It looks like his hatred for the Jews was more powerful than his hatred for the non-whites. This neo-nazi turd is going to have a rude awakening as someone said.
Actually, I don't think he was much of a nazi to begin with. If he is willing to wear dirty pajamas, a long beard, sandals, and hang around mosques, I think he lost the plot somewhere a long time ago. LOL!
If you have sought solace from all the setbacks that life presents, and a Simple Solution to the Universe akin to that offered by any belief-system that, if fully followed, would impose a Total Regulation of Life, then you might well, in Western world, in recent decades have found your answer in dreams of Hitler and the Third Reich. How many of these loners yearning for a community promising Power and encouraging Hate, who once found their answer in the Nazis, have swithced their allegiance, or rather found it to be a natural step, to embrace not the Nazis but Islam, and not any hint of otherworldly Islam, but the Islam that offers that Total Regulation of Life, that Complete Explanation of the Universe, nad provides that ready-made Community, and as a special but indispensable bonus, also justifies its very own brand of antisemitism as a subset of its much broader list of Infidel enemies.
Neo-Nazism may be fun, but it doesn't appear to be ready for its closeup just yet. So why not join the Winning Team of Professionals who have, as it happens, just opened a branch office in a place convenient for you -- that is, Islam Incorporated. Trade in those childish swastikas and Horst Weseel tapes, for the Qur'an, the Hadith, those videotapes of beheadings of Infidels, and bombings of American army convoys. What fun! What could be better! And think of all the other things you get to do. You get to choose a new, Arabic name. You can go whole hog, or just change your first name. You get to bow toward Mecca five times a day. You get to learn a whole special exotic vocabulary -- and you can be the first on your block to do so. You can walk down the street, with a secret smile, looking at all those Infidels whom one day Islam -- and you-- will dominate. Those fools. Those pigs and sons of pigs. What do they know? What do they know about Muhammad, and the Banu Qurayza? What do they know about those amazing victories of Muhammad, that world his followers conquered. And Islam is on the march again, and nothing can stop us. What a sense of secret power, of mental coherence at long last, the relief of no longer being alone, but part of that -- not team, really, that army. Yes, the Army of Islam. Walk smartly, now, down the sidewalk, and look with contempt on all those scurrying Infidels, in London or New York or Paris, going about their silly, irrelevant Infidel business.
We Muslims are used to being patient. We can bide our time. It is we who can out-wait and out-last you. Go ahead. Keep for now your freedoms, your sense of fairness, of what is "not done." Go ahead and let us exploit and turn to our advantage your so-called "rights" and your "moral scrupulosity." What fun. What could be better.
"And the message is, if you are a psychopathic, violent, racist looking for companionship with like-minded people come on over to Mo's gang."
Hey Turbine, I have posted this several times before, but I am posting it again because it is extremely relevent. Behold:
"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers –already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! –then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so."
(August 28, 1942, midday)
Adolf Hitler (1889-1945) "Hitler’s Table Talk; 1941-1944" translated by N. Cameron and R.H. Stevens, Enigma Books (1953)
I think this story about David Myatt is old news, going back at least three years; and Alexandre Del Valle was writing about Myatt's conversion to Islam about two years ago. In 2004, Del Valle reported, among other things:
"on April 3, 2003, the Salafist Londoner Omar Bakri Mohamed, leader of the movement al Mouhajiroun as well as being imam of the Finsbury Park mosque and a recruiter of a number of youths who went off to join al Qaeda, officially received Myatt and accorded him a “welcome into Islam”, specifying to journalists that the neo-Nazi past of this neophyte had “no special importance once their goals converged in common” "
http://www.alexandredelvalle.com/publications.php?id_art=131
And the real payoff for this character and others like him is that now they can cloak themselves in the protection of a PC approved victim group. No longer do they have to be marginalized as racist kooks, they can now attain respectability according to the dominant liberal worldview. It's only a matter of time until there arises a sect of "White Muslims" as a counterpart to the Black Muslims. Now they can be as racist against non "Aryans" as they want while being immune from criticism provided that they keep bowing to Mecca.
Birds of a feather, flock together!
This guy suffers big-time from some deep-seated need to have an "Us vs Them" mentality (to literally WELCOME it and feed upon it for sustenance) and he's finally found himself a home where he can endorse this need freely, as RBLA points out, because now he and others like him "No longer ....have to be marginalized as racist kooks, they can now attain respectability according to the dominant liberal worldview."
from the article: “I spent several decades of my life fighting for what I regarded as my people, my race and my nation, and endured two terms of imprisonment arising out of my political activities.”
So that need to have a WE, a tribal identity, based on the in-group and the out-group was frustrated in the modern west (obviously because he is white! And whites are not permitted to have a tribal identity in the PC world, even as every non-white person on the planet is encouraged towards defining themselves in ethnic terms) and now he's found the perfect solution to his dilemma and his need for tribalism - the ummah vs the infidel, even though the solution he's found completely turns on its head WHICH tribe he belongs to! Apparently there's no real identity there, just an overwhelming need to divide the world into "US" vs "THEM", just an overwhelming need to revert to tribalism. Without a doubt there is a fairly natural tendency among human beings to do that anyway, but this willingness to abruptly switch tribes, as it were, seems to represent a deep pathological need to search that sense of division out (and find a tribe where that urge can be legitimately expressed in this PC world, as you so astutely point out). Whether its done merely to justify nascent violent tendencies, or represents some deep craving for belonging, I don't know. And maybe as some have suggested, all it really comes down to in this guy's case is a legitimized and opportunistic excuse for pathological anti-semitism.
RBLA predicts: "It's only a matter of time until there arises a sect of "White Muslims" as a counterpart to the Black Muslims. Now they can be as racist against non "Aryans" as they want while being immune from criticism provided that they keep bowing to Mecca."
RBLA - I think you're so very right. Witness the divisions within the Muslim world, with its endless sectarian violence as it is already. The ummah is so looking forward to all those white western converts but chances are that what you predict instead will be what comes to pass. Because people who are drawn in the first place to such an "Us" vs "Them" mentality DO NOT wish to live in peace. It's the last thing they want. Peace obviates their raison d'etre. I will indeed remember your prediction as I watch the future unfold (admittedly I may not live long enough to see the fruition of your prediction though).
Westerners (liberals mostly) who give legitimacy to Islam (with its implacable divisions between dar al-Islam and dar al-harb)are actively inviting the ethos of tribalism and gang-culture into our world. They are creating a world of endless division and strife. It's "multiculturalism" alright. But I very much doubt its the kind of multiculturalism they imagined in their utopian fantasies. And whether its what they imagined or not, they will still be completely responsible for what they have wrought.
These are bedfellows meant for each other. I just wonder how well Myatt is going to get along with all those Black Muslims in prison who "came to Islam" to escape the white man's racism?
There is a fine line between love and hate... and no line at all between hate and insanity.
There is an extremely interesting section of journalist Nick Ryan's recent and chilling book 'Homeland: Into a World of Hate' (London) chronicling the author's attempts to meet and interview David Myott. In the end Ryan does meet him and Myott is presented as someone you wouldn't want to be involved with - believed by Ryan's sources to be involved in Satanism and the occult - although Myott denied this. Yet even at that time - about six or seven years ago - there were, according to Ryan, rumours that Myott was thinking of converting to Islam.
Caroline,
You have said it much better than I could. It will be interesting to see how long it takes David Duke, for example, to figure out that converting to Islam gets him a "get out of re-education and sensitivity training camp free card." I wonder, whether we might one day see white jihadists come to the aid of the Sudanese Arab Muslims in their conflict with the darker African Muslims of Darfur.
"O Brave New World that has such people in it".