Young man flogged 74 times in public in Iran for drinking

Sharia Alert from Iran Focus, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

Tehran, Iran, Apr. 20 – An Iranian man was flogged in public in the city of Karaj, north-west of Tehran, for drinking alcohol, a state-run daily reported on Thursday.

The man, identified only as Afrasiab H., was flogged 74 times on Wednesday morning, the daily Javan wrote.

The sentence was carried out in a public in the district of Mohammad-Shahr.

Afrasiab was also charged with selling alcoholic beverages.

Have a glass of wine tonight and give thanks that you live in a free society. While it lasts.

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Even the Holy Bible condemns a drunkard,but it didnt advocate the State to take up the job of a police man to see that no body drinks,and if they do,punish them. It is left to the choice of an individual to decide whehter to drink or not ,and to suffer the conseqences latter.
The Bible only advises us not to drink in excess, and the evil efects of over drinking. It also adises us not to indulge in adultary,not to steal,not to tell lies,and to honour one's parents .But it didnt advocate the State to flog the drinker,or to cut off the hands of a thief,or stone a woman,who has commited audultary.It is left to the concience of the individual concerned,and a belief that he will be punished by God,if he wants to.
Even in the case of an apostate, who renounces Christianity,the church will not try to kill him,as instructed in the Koran for the Muslims.If that were to be the case, Casceus Clay,who became Mohamed Ali,the famous Boxer, or Cat Stevens ,who became Noorul Islam,and the rest of the people,who converted to Islam, will not be moving so freely in our Christian countries,with the same respect given to them by the public,when they were Christians.
That is the beauty of Christianity.

some reasons why muhammud did not want muslims to drink are:
l) hands get too shaky when drunk too hard to chop of limbs, heads and other assorted body parts
2) when you've had a glass of wine, you relax, truly muslims cannot enjoy life.
3) when you had one too many, suddenly you cannot hear what the grand muffi, or imman has instructed you to do.
4) when you had one too many,your sense of directions are a bit off, and suicide killers go the wrong way, and kill the imman in the mosque or hammas politicians
5) when you had some beer, sudenly everyone around you looks just lovely, so you have a laugh and call off the jihad of protests against the good Danish people
6) when you actually worked at making the beer, you can actually make money and take time off from killing your local infidel.
7) when you have a real nice rum and coke, suddenly you want to please your mate!
8) when you have a mudslide, you just want to sign and dance the night out with the girls, and forget about planting the bomb belt on your little brother.
9) when you quinch your thirst on a hot dry summer's day, you just want to lay under the tree
and squew mohammud whats his name!
10) this l leave for someone to find the best one. l am still trying think this one.

How is this one Lulu:

If you drink to much you will miss your plane and a building will be saved.

hahaha

how about this one?

10. You end up drinking anyway, sober up, feel guilty and then go kill the nearest infidel to a atone for having a beer or two

How about this one

If you drink with your local infidel while staying sober you are going to learn he is a person and so will kill him in the "most moderate way possible" instead of the Islamic way.

10. Tequila makes you ten feet tall and bulletproof and you punch out the imam.

sofia,

The big difference is that God loves the sinner, but hates the sin. So much so that he came to suffer, die, and rise for us. The beauty of the Christian faith is that we can turn to God in repentence and have the hope of receiving God's mercy.

10. You're too drunk (or too hungover) to be much use on the battlefield. Hence, the promise of booze in heaven, for the unfortunate who may not survive the battle.

10. After consuming a quite amazing amount of margaritas (would frozen and without salt be haram, I wonder?), you suddenly notice the complex humor within Silence of the Lambs and then realize that nowhere in the Quran does it say that you can't eat an infidel especially if delicately sauteed in a nice champagne/mustard cream sauce with a nice salad and yet another pitcher of that damned frozen margarita (PBUM).

Thoughts? Anyone?-----

... to say nothing of "fava beans and a nice chianti."

good, here's some more...

those AA guys just keep pushing that christianity s*** and the police will get suspicious if AA meetings start to end in large explosions

when drunk, you can't distinguish between your wives in a burka, your sister in a burka, and your mom in a burka until it's too late

your wives have the habit of hanging their burkas over your sword rack and when drunk you can't distinguish between your wife in a burka bending over and a burka hanging over your sword rack until it's too late

when drunk you roll over and pass out after fulfilling your marital duty with your first wife, and your second, third, and fourth wives and the 20 odd sex slaves you brought back from last year's vacation in France don't get any

Shinoliite,

Of course if I could reproduce the facial perspective and that curious sound that Sir Hopkins makes when uttering that line....now how cool would that be if made into one of those emoticons.

Hey, wait a minute. Are emoticons technically haram as well?

Jim: "Thoughts? Anyone?-----"

Umm...it rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again?

Al-kohl- Arabic. n. Any refined substance, originally denoting powdered antimony, or kohl, used as an eye shadow/liner by North African women, and later, when the alembic was used to distill wine into pure spirits, the concept was transfered into alcohol.

10. Drinking requires science to produce its more palatable and potent variations, whether Dom Perignon's champagne accident, discovered after a batch of wine went through a second fermentation in the bottle -and signalled its arrival on Earth with a pop!, or Dutch genever [gin] refined from humble juniper berries.

And a delightful science, at that.

Mingling chemistry, patience, glass-blowing, cork production, dancing in wine vats, and, during the centuries when potable water was undependable, a safe source of antibiotic nourishment.

Islam, too busy bowing 5 times a day, doesn't have the temperament, humor, or loosened ingenuity.

And, if they don't want the fuel, they can't have the side-effects: -all of the West's inventions that being tipsy and life-affirming resulted in, whether cheerful songs ["Yes, We have No Bananas" to "You Know My Name (Look Up My Number)"], clever devices [the airplane to the hand-held computer], amazing discoveries [anamorphic lenses to nitanol] or the general positivity of the infidel culture at large.

They prefer howling like disemboweled sheep.

We prefer bowling and catching well-deserved sleep.

Prost!

Caroline,

Oh God...don't tease.

Hmm...this infidel margarita is pretty damned tasty.

Profitsbeard,

Dancing naked in wine vats has always been one of my more kinky memories. Actually the mingling chemistry and patience reminds me of a Danish exchange student whom, well...I guess there was some howling like disemboweled sheep albeit the thought thereof seems a bit tacky.

Now my main question is whether "Real Housewives of Orange County" truly haram?


The Lord Jesus Christ who turned water into wine, thereby ensuring that everybody at the wedding had a good time would have been flogged in most Muslim countries. Something for the Islamo-Christians to think about the next time they pick on the Jews.

Since alcohol inhibits erections, drunk mohammads will have a difficult time raping their captured females, namely your sisters and wives, daughters and mothers.

http://www.islam-watch.blogspot.com

Bring this Afrasiab H. dude down here to south-central Kaintuck. I'll give this drunken Persian asylum. He can do all the shots and distill all the Kaintuck Straight he wants, so long as he pithces the hog slop so as to earn his keep.

APF, you sound , oops, write like you've been into the moonshine....ahahahah

free, you know me, I am alarmed and I just wanna give any Moslem apostate, in fact all 32 of them worldwide, a place to hole up. Now, the Welfare Dept. down at the county courthouse ain't real high on me, but if I can keep 3,200 hogs rolling forward why not a few boozy Persian asylum seekers?

Btw, Lulu's accounting from way up top this thread is not only funny, it's a rock solid analysis of why Moslems don't drink.

Yup, too uptight. They are frigid people. Laughter is good for the soul.

Keep those pigs rolling....I love BBQ!!

How sick can they get? Primary schoolkids unbelievable!!!
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Separate groups of gunmen entered two primary schools in Baghdad on Wednesday and beheaded two teachers in front of their students, the Ministry of State for National Security said.

"Two terrorist groups beheaded two teachers in front of their students in the Amna and Shaheed Hamdi primary schools in Shaab district in Baghdad," a ministry statement said.

A ministry official said he believed the attacks were aimed at: "intimidating pupils and disrupting learning."

So he drank and got flogged.

Well I drink and get stoned, its par for the course.

Nice one Lulu. Things are going from bad to worse in Iran. Here's a report on the recent crackdown on women's clothing. Surely, that's the bottom line. Terror of women's sexual power. Apart from having a good tipple together just to loosen up the inhibitions,i.e the natural self.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4929504.stm

Why is this article here? Who cares if a Muslim in the Islamic Sha'aria state of Iran was punished for violating the laws of his own religion?

When in Rome................

Give them their countries and their laws. What they do within them is their business. What they try to export out then becomes our business.

This particular news items accomplishes nothing here except fan the flames of hate for a religion almost all of us here are blessed not to belong to.

I do not understand this to be the goal of Mr. Spencer's site. The same is true for the stories of blasphemers in such countries. As much as I pity them, they are begging to be killed.

Let them do anything they want, so long as it does not affect us. When it does, then by all means post it here.

Assalamau-Laikum all,

Islamic divine laws are there for the protection of faith (belief in one God), life ( abortion. suicide, homicide), property (ownership) and the mind (intoxicants).

As the infedel has shown, in the brain there is an inhibitory control which tells us not to engage in shameful or wrongful acts. Any suppressant drug including alcohol will suppress this nerve pathways and take away such restraint. Ability to make a judgement, to protect the body or honor, a quality for humans is taken away, you have seen how this individual has suffered.

There are two main features of Islamic prohibitions:

a) lslam stops the wrong at the inception and not at the end. There is nothing like safe drinking age, or safe drugs to get high. Most of the Amrikan teenage alcoholics don't buy the alcohol from the store but get it at home. Islam makes equal laws for both childrens and parents by prohibiting completely (total abstinence), but unfortunately the West does not. It is for this reason, the West has been crippled to handle the problem of alcohol, because it has made duel standards.

b) Islam blocks all the avenues to the wrong. Therefore not only illicit sex is prohibited, but casual mixing of sexes freely is prohibited, but obscenity and pornography is prohibited, and in the same context, not only drinking wine is prohibited, but making it , selling it, keeping it, or even growing grapes for the sole purpose of selling it to winery for making wine is prohibited by the Mohd (PBUH). Some 1400 years ago, Allah(swt), our creator and sustainer, who cares for us, sent down following revelation in the following order, mentioned in Quran.

Al Baqarah 2:219: "They ask you concerning wine and gambling." Say: "In them there is great sin, and some profit, for men, but sin is greater than the profit."

Al-Nisa 4:43: "O you who believe! Approach not prayers, with a mind befogged, until you can understand all that you say."

Al-Ma'idah 5:93: "O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divinations by) arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handiwork: Avoid such (abomination) that you may prosper."

Al-Ma'idah 5:93: "Satan's plan is to sow enmity and hatred among you with intoxicants and gambling, and to hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from prayer. Will you not then give up."

The above verses came over period of years and when the last verse came, Muslims threw away all the wine into the streets and stopped completely in whatever state they were in, and streets of Medina were flowing with wine. Sayings of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and about wine and other intoxicants.

1. "Every intoxicant is khamr, and every khamr is haram (unlawful)- reported by Muslim.
2. "Of that which intoxicates in a large amount, a small amount is haram" (Ahmad, Abu-Daud and Al-Tirrnizi,).

3. "Khamar (intoxicants) is the mother of all evils". Reported in Bukhari.

Note that there are no easy solutionsto these problems in Amrika. In fact it is a multifactorial problem and each aspect should be addressed individually, and seriously, both by the Amerikan government and by the US public.

While the total ban on production, import and export is the ideal solution to create a drug free society, by experience (i.e. in the USA with total ban on alcohol in 1920's) it is difficult to achieve unless strict laws are made and enforced on drug/alcohol producers, traffickers and offenders, a law, that sees distinction between the helpless victim and the alcohol producers/sellers.

Only Islam offers such tough laws to influence our morality and health. While we are trying to do these, we must provide this ISLAMIC education to the masses, social workers, law enforcements agencies and the physicians at the same time developing treatment and (ISLAMIC) rehab centers in LARGE scale as Amrekin sufferings continues to grow with childrens, husbands and Allah forbid even womens being lost daily.

It is beyond the dignity of ALLAh's SWT human being to become dependent on alcohol and not be able to serve himself, his family and his creator in the best possible manner.

The objective is to have a completely dry Amrekia. When Islamic verses (on the probition of Alcohol) are better known over period of years Amrikans will throw away all the wine into the streets and stop.... and Alhumulilla.... the objective will have been met.

This requires motivation and commitment from the Amrikan Administration...and much dollars to set up Islamic "sobering units" as well as Islamic educational centers on alcohol abuse. Please write to your councillors, senators and your president about starting this almight task.

Please remember I am with you in spirit and
Insha-Allah you shall succeed.

Please remember I am with you in spirit

Posted by: Naseem at April 21, 2006 06:51 AM


LOL

Naseem, you have never had a taste of a great wine? Yes you can drink once or twice and not get freakin drunk. your childrapist prophet controls your entire life, takes you for a fool! You see most people in the West are very strong willed and can control themselves! we dont need to cover up women and ban pleasure of a good wine! my father would only drink at weddings, (many at Fr.Cdn weddings), Christmass Eve, very hot summer day, and you know Naseem, he worked his whole life, raised 8 kids and many foster kids (along with my mother), did not skirt chase, and he enjoyed his beer on a hot summers day. chill out Naseem, how can you put something down when you never tried it. you want to live life in a prison cell with your koran go ahead. we in the West enjoy and treasure our freedom, will never give in to your frustrated cult. have you walked up a hill on a sunny windy day with your head in sun, and hair flying around your head.. l know you wish you could! many have been there, you cannot go there Naseem!

anyone wanna bet that there's more to this story than someone merely consuming alcohol?

This poor SOB probably offended the wrong (mullah) party and was made to pay a horrific price. That's what's going on in the Islamic Republic these days.

Naseem:

Islam's prohibitions are not for the promotion of good health and prevention of cruelty to the weak. They are about control by the religious authorities and ruling classes who happily bend those laws to their own advantage. Right now, the mullahs are making sure there's a cheap and plentiful supply of heroin available to the large population of unemployed and underemployed Iranian youths to keep them passive and easily controlled.

Lulu, or have your hair flowing riding a horse, three wheeler, motorcycle or jogging. Your dad sounds like my dad when on a hot summer day he'd down a beer. That and weddings was the only time I ever saw him drink. He'd have one.

And also, it's not just about the drink or the hair. We have choices. I can wear a skirt, shorts, bathing suit and don't have to worry about religious police. Or wearing a stifling burka in the heat. Naseem and the poor women in those countries just can't imagine how great freedom is.

"This requires motivation and commitment from the Amrikan Administration...and much dollars to set up Islamic "sobering units" as well as Islamic educational centers on alcohol abuse. Please write to your councillors, senators and your president about starting this almight task."
Posted by: Naseem

No thanks. I would rather my "much dollars" be spent on bullets to protect me from people who would protect me from myself.

From now on its Packeystan

freewoman, l am a Sagitarian by birth, and my name means a warrior babe, actually the best time l had with my hair flowing in the wind and sun was when l was 14 on a snowmobile going over forzen lakes and hills of northern ontario. now l when l have time take the dogs along with my sister and her kids for runs on my bike on the bike paths. poor women like Naseem have to stay cloistered like a nun, all covered up, no wine to go with a nice steak diner or fish. when l ever go to new places l bring back wines for my brothers, they really appreciate that!
yes l feel sorry for Naseem and her the poor muslim hordes, they have created hell on earth, but we have a choice of freedom to chose, that we will never give up to the death cult of childmolester muhammud!

What does the “Noble” Qur’an say about wine?

005.090
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper.

047.015
YUSUFALI: (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised: in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink ; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?

Now, how did Satan’s handiwork get into paradise?

If gambling is forbidden, there sure are a lot of middle eastern men doing the slots. You know, come to think of it, I never see a muslim woman in the casinos.

Women aren't allowed to "sin" I guess.

If gambling is forbidden, there sure are a lot of middle eastern men doing the slots. You know, come to think of it, I never see a muslim woman in the casinos.

Women aren't allowed to "sin" I guess.

Posted by: freewoman at April 21, 2006 10:32 AM
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Last year, before Katrina razed Biloxi, I was at the Beau Rivage and I actually saw two muslimas in hijabs, walking together WITHOUT male chaperones. It is quite possible that the males were a few steps ahead of them and I didn't notice them but I was shocked to see them inside the casino. Their eyes weren't "averted"; they seemed quite interested in everything that was going on around them.

wow, that's more than one flog per virgin in heaven!

Wow, Susanp, you were lucky I guess. I've never seen muslim women in Las Vegas, Laughlin, Bossier City casinos. I wonder if the men let them play slots.

Hey, I am most probably righfully guessing that none of all you dear bloggers ever got 74 lashes (officially, on the market place) for having a few dear sips of wine, or beer, or breandy, ...just a few sips of booze, and then have everyone taking the heck out of it and having fun, while you lie in the local hospital and your back is all meat-shrapnel...
Well, to me this young man is a hero!, and I offer him a 100 british pounds for going out there and doing it again!.

No, cosmic, I can truthfully say I've never been flogged.

I was slapped once...and the fight was on!

"Well, to me this young man is a hero!, and I offer him a 100 british pounds for going out there and doing it again!. "
Posted by: cosmicAvenger

Thats a lot of money, I don't know if I would give him that much, but I would (at least) buy the next round.

Praise be to Bacchus and PBUH.

Geez - I just had a flashback to an old Mutiny on the Bounty movie. Remember the floggings that Captain Bligh would order - argh!!!

Am I ever thankful that I live in America!! Flogging is an abusive and barbaric practice, and I had no idea that this ancient punishment was still carried out and should NOT be defended.

A primary example for keeping 'church and state' S E P A R A T E - ahem.

Shy Guy, Good one. I had no idea Naseem was soluable in alcohol.

Nasseem:

I have never understood how so much opium could be produced in Afganistan if "every intoxicant is khamr". Don't drugs count as intoxicants? Is it considered OK to produce it as long as it is sold to the infidel? There is widespread use of cheap heroin in Iran, so obviously it is being sold to more than just the infidel.

I guess there is not sufficient respect for Mohammed (piss be upon him) these days in muslimland.

Maybe the guy was to drunk to feel the 74 floggings. Fanatical islamist's are just to weird. What can one do with such refuge? Moderate Islam speek up! Grow a conscience. Stop this B.S.

l guess he could sing one hundred bottles of beer on the wall while being flogged. l know we use to sing this on school bus road trips, but prol too PC now. it does keep things going though.

PC? I remember it as "Ten Green Bottles". One of those songs you sang on long bus journeys, like "One man went to mow, went to mow a meadow". Almost as dull as counting the road markings.

A variation on "Ten Green Bottles" was "Ten Sticks of Dynamite". A minor variation on this might be:

Ten Green Martyrs sitting on the wall
Ten Green Martyrs doing bugger all
And if one Green Martyr should accidentally fall

...INSHALLAH...

There'd be no Green Martyrs, and no bloody wall.

What do little mujahedin sing en route to field trips? Indeed, "99 Bottles of Beer" is out of the question.

Hmm...

99 Names of Allah on the wall
99 Names of Allah
Take 4 wives, chase kafirs with knives,
99 Names of Allah on the wall!

Interested

That's a helluva Quranic Math (or Maths, as you say on your end of the pond).

"Have a glass of wine tonight and give thanks that you live in a free society. While it lasts."

Posted by Robert at April 20, 2006 07:25 PM |

..or a couple of jinns & tonic.

Cheers!!!!!

Naseem: You're addicted to Islam, which rots the brain more than alcohol ever could.
Have a beer and chill out...