Bush says he unwittingly 'stirs up anxiety' in Muslim world

George, start by puckering your lips and then say Mooooooooooooo very slowly and respectfully.

You may wish to face Mecca a poke your fanny skyward while your down on all fours; it shows your sincerity on the matter.

show me proof that islam even thinks jews and christians are people,and not dogs and monkeys.just once i would like a muslim to speak to us like we are people.

So do cartoons.

So it's safe to say, that any infidel can stir anxiety in mohammedons just by ........being infidel!!!!!!

Bush: "Islam, itself, is a peaceful religion."

By now he must know this is not true. He is not stupid. He thinks it politically expedient to pronounce this falsehood. If you repeat something false often enough can you get people to believe it? Bush is making himself ridiculous and bringing himself into contempt with any rational and honest observer. He is like a somewhat more genial version of O'Brien without the shock machine.

He paused for a few moments, as though to allow what he had been saying to sink in.

'Do you remember,' he went on, 'writing in your diary, "Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four"?'

'Yes,' said Winston.

O'Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended.

'How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?'

'Four.'

'And if the party says that it is not four but five -- then how many?'

[...]

'You are a slow learner, Winston,' said O'Brien gently.

'How can I help it?' he blubbered. 'How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? ...'

"How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes?"

"Islam, itself, is a peaceful religion, and those who adhere to Islam are people that respect the rights of others... we cannot allow... these totalitarians, these Islamic extremists to distort a great religion and define the nature of that religion." -- Bush

The Clintons, Al Gore, Senator Kerry, Howard Dean, Jimmy Carter, Ted Kennedy, Senator Obama, would all completely agree with Bush. Hell, even Ward Churchill would completely agree with Bush on this point. On perhaps the most important point in politics today, there is complete bipartisan agreement to support the most irrational and dangerous opinion about Islam.

just before ww2 many thought hitler was a nice guy and the nazi party was the hope of germany...now we have islam....maybe we are just sheep led to slaughter....makes you wonder about the world.

I wonder at what point it will become resoundly clear to most Infidels in the Western world what the lie of 'peaceful Islam' has cost us. Billions (or perhaps by now trillions) of dollars, thousands of lives, and wasted time. And surely this belief influences the utter lack of any urgency in the Bush adminstration to take drastic action to lessen dependence on foreign oil. After all, Islam itself is peaceful, all one needs is diplomacy and the spread of democracy and Muslim nations will work with us to ensure a steady, secure supply of oil to world markets. No security risk to worry about. Oil weapons? Saudi Arabia is our ally. And so, five years after 9/11 there exists no real movement in developing alternative energy. Only the recent price surges in oil, in part caused by an 'Islamic terrorist price premium', have had a significant impact on alternative energy development. The government remains lethargic at best.

The lie is so horribly harmful, and so obviously a lie: the only genuine peace of Islam is Islam itself, that is, surrender. Hence, the burden of keeping the peace falls to non-believers who are confronted with Islam's existential choice: believe or face the consequences. Since peace means surrender, and Islam by definition is surrender, 'Islam is peaceful' is necessarily true, a tautology of a sort. Those who do not surrender are by definition, not at peace. The problem for Bush, and for all Infidels who encounter the peace of Islam, is that the wrong choice, namely, lack of surrender to Islam, necessarily implies the contrary of peace, agitation, aggression, or a state of war, depending on one's reaction and the closer of da'wa and other forms of Islamic growth and dominance, as options.

There is nothing Bush or any of us Infidels can do, but surrender, if we mean to have a real, lasting peace with Islam, that is, by definition 'peaceful'.

Prove to me that there is not a certain verse that allows husbands to beat their wives, President Bush.

Islam is a peacful religion if you're:

a) Muslim
b) Male
c) Theologically lobotomised to agree with everything your Imam tells you.

I'm sure there's a D) somewhere.

D: In a coma.

How frigg'n nauseating.

Can he really be such an idiot? Does he believe what he is saying about the "religion of peace?" Or is he being careful not to offend his friends the Saudi arabs?

We will probably never know. But he does present the portrait of a perfect idiot leading a war against an abstraction: Terror.

A Don Quijote? Hardly. Either mentally handicapped or pretending to be so.

To disarm the enemy? We should be so lucky!

To divert attention from the identity of the enemy: the practicioners of the ideology that has jihad and world domination as its goal?

Why?

Never forget the image of the President of the United States holding hands with a "royal" Saudi.

Not as much of an idiot as he wants us to believe he is.

Certainly Bush should be reading -- or have read to him -- the Qur'an and Hadith (al-Bukhari and Muslim will do), again and again. Abrogation should be explained to him. 5.32 should be read "in context" -- that is, the context of 5.33. The Muslim understanding of "There is no compulsion in religion" needs to be conveyed to Infidels. especially in the light of two quite obvious kinds of "compulsion" in religion -- punishment of apostasy by death, and the condition of humiliation, degradation, and physical insecurity imposed on Infidels under Muslim rule.

l really dont think anyone that knows of evil, does not knoe islam is evil. l am hoping that when Bush says islam is a religion of peace,that he is crossing something while saying that.

I can think of a way to 'stir up anxiety' LOL

"Can he really be such an idiot? Does he believe what he is saying about the "religion of peace?" Or is he being careful not to offend his friends the Saudi arabs?
-- from a posting above

1. Yes.
2. Yes, or at least partly. Deeply respectful of anything that is called a "religion" or has a billion supposed followers, is George Bush.
3. Yes, and there is absolutely no need to do so. One does not have to curry favor with the local gas station owner. Or the one further afield. Saudi Arabia is totally, completely, hopelessly and helplessly dependent on the sale of oil. It has nothing else. It has not created, and will not create, a modern economy. Its princes and princelings and princelettes are coupon-clipping rentiers; they are greedy, they are spendthrifts. So are all of the Saudi courtiers around them. They want money. They want access to Western technology, Western education, Western medicine, Western everything. They are dependent on wage slaves to run their country and to take care of them. They are desperate to keep an oil market, and to ensure that customers will always buy that oil.

Stupidity is always intolerable. When that stupidity is at the top, it is intolerable -- and dangerous.

It's high time to move on beyond Bush to the presidential candidates - Allen, Romney, Bayh, Biden, et al. In the case of the GOP, appeal to their patriotism, and point to Arab supremacist goals, like Shariah, as well as things like Shariah loans. In the case of the Dems, point out what Islam says about Women's & Gay Rights, animal rights, honor killings, attitudes towards athiests... In other words, given the different demographic make-ups, use different messages to target the candidates on both sides, and win them over to the anti-Islamic cause. Let there be a pro-Muslim candidate on both sides - McCain in the GOP (who opposed torture and secret prisons), and Hilary (who first bunched Ramadan along with Chrismas and Hannukah in 1999.) that can attract the Moslim & Dhimmi portions of the electorate.

With less than 1000 days left, there is no reason to invest any more hope in him. Just hope that he doesn't carry the water for Islam after his presidency like Carter & Clinton.

Robert said

It would be refreshing if someone somewhere would come up with some evidence for the oft-repeated assertions that Bush here repeats yet again. I have asked here many times, to no avail.

Unfortunately for the American people, you do not have day to day access to Bush to ask him directly. But the press corps do. It is their job to ask him hard questions, to press him on issues on which he is evasive or on which his position diverges from reality. I am extremely disappointed in our media. There are dozens of reporters with access to the White House, it would just take one of them to learn the basics about Islam, and to start asking questions. Maybe Bush would boycott reporters who do ask hard questions (just ask Helen Thomas), but that is all the more reason to do it. Someone needs to do it.

George W. Bush said

"There needs to be more understanding between the Muslim world and the Western world. There needs to be a better understanding of the true beliefs of their respective religions."

This completely pegs the irony-o-meter. This is becoming almost Kafka-esqe.