Crafts website hijacked by mujahedin to host jihad material

robert michelle malkin has this....
From the desk of Paul Belien on Sun, 2006-05-07 11:40
The Belgian Bishops have opened their churches to illegal immigrants in order to pressurize the Belgian authorities to allow the immigrants to stay in the country.

Most of the immigrant squatters in the churches are Muslims. They display banners in the church showing the name of Allah (picture taken in the church of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour, Brussels).

why our borders need to be closed,we are at war.

Campingman:

That story from Malkin and Belien is over a year old.

I covered it here in April 2005:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005720.php

Cordially
Robert Spencer

From the Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), page 205, in response to a items found in a police raid allegedly having nothing to do with terrorism:

"What does it have to do with, then? Macramé?"

Holy needlepoint, Batman, I guess it does.

sorry....i feel kinda like an idiot

Campingman:

No need for you to feel like an idiot. After all, they are presenting it as a new story. I don't think they're aware that it has been making the rounds.

Cordially
Robert Spencer

With the cyber talent of American patriots (not a dirty word, that) and abundant in Israel (the prime target of moslem jihad) an effort should be made to stifle the ongoing conquest of the Internet by the despicable followers of the false prophet.

Not being adept at hacking and all that, I can only make a plea that all those anti-jihadists expert in those areas take up the keyboard (as is being done by Internet Haganah and some Israelis) and join in to make short shrift of the jihadists using this technology to further their agenda of world domination.

This is a very disturbing news piece. The jihadis have been doing this sort of thing for quite a few years; their techniques are not necessarily "hi-tech" in the technology world, but get by, and the bad thing is that there is so little action about their moves.

'Brachman and other researchers had been aware of the files, but said the intrusion onto the site was not unusual in the burgeoning world of online Islamic extremism.

"This is a very tangential, very peripheral site that only those who are actively following this sort of literature would be accessing," Brachman said.

"It doesn't cause me alarm: these guys are pests in terms of this stuff," he said. "This is standard procedure for these guys to post this kind of material."'

I think it is really this kind of extremely misplaced complacency that is going to give us a very hard time. I would hardly characterize these people as "pests". They are quite dangerous. Their actions need to be penalized by large resistance groups. Many times, those who perform them are genuinely out of reach by legal authorities. This leaves all sorts of websites run by ordinary people at peril, just as if American (or other) tourist autos were being used as unknowing "mules" for drugs.

Further, I cannot even begin to imagine how many of them are working in the US computer industry, as I have met several whose behavior in retrospect is suspicious.

HaMalach: "Further, I cannot even begin to imagine how many of them are working in the US computer industry.."

Or currently studying computer science in the US on student visas.

It just gripes my @$$ that these cavemen know how to use our technology against us, if we had not allowed them to be educated in our schools they couldn't have done it.

They hacked a crafts site? Now what, macrame for mohammedans? Sculpting for Salafists? Needlepoint for neck-slashers?

Intelligent Infidels -- i.e. not like that Intel vice-president who was willing to bet his life, his career, his everything on the innocence of Mike Hawash, and continued his vaporings until the day that Mike Hawash pled guilty -- need to watch, and try to block, Muslims (Believers, not those who may have been born into Islam but have jettisoned it) from rising high in critical industries. There are all sorts of ways, often informal, not necessarily made known (better not made known) to do this. Access to certain kinds of technology, or fields of science -- nuclear engineering, many areas of biology and chemistry, computer engineering, need to be more strictly regulated, and certainly in most cases of students from Muslim countries, denied altogether. Self-preservation.

"Access to certain kinds of technology, or fields of science -- nuclear engineering, many areas of biology and chemistry, computer engineering, need to be more strictly regulated, and certainly in most cases of students from Muslim countries, denied altogether. Self-preservation."

I'm thinking the same should apply to students from the PRC. Not only because of the inherent ideological, military, and economic threat they embody, but also due to their government's cozying up to the mohammedan crackpots.

This is horrible and very upsetting, scary too. It is bad enough to get hacked, but to get piggy backed by a hacker and not know it and be a place they use like that. Very scary.

Thank you so much for the heads up on this. We all need to know as much as we can about our enemy and be aware always.

Now what, macrame for mohammedans? Sculpting for Salafists? Needlepoint for neck-slashers?

Exactly that. I'm not sure if this Islamic and Arabic Cross Stitch is the same site I found last year when I was looking for particular thread. That site suggested that these stitching kits were good gifts for wives and daughters, a gift that will always remind them of the prophet. And which could be sold on ebay, thus providing an income without a woman having to leave the house.
They get everywhere. I need a break from the news, counter dawa etc, so I go on line to look for some innocuous needlework materials and there they are, dawa, dawa, and more dawa.
Islamic screensavers - To assist your dawa in the office! I put a Palm Sunday cross in my pen pot on my desk after that one. Not that anyone in my office has an Islamic screensaver I hasten to add.

I wonder how much longer they will call it cross stitch? The stitch is shaped as a diagonal cross, like a St Andrews Cross, not a crucifix but even so.....

[The FBI spokeswoman] said the FBI would investigate a website only if it directly advocated violence. Specialists said Suri's writings advocate violence, but [the spokeswoman] said, "unless .... there's something very urgent in that paper, it's not that we wouldn't take a look at it, it's just that we have to prioritize. There's no quick and easy answer here."

This from the FBI, the agency that shut down the pre-9/11 investigation of Moussaoui.

This makes me angry beyond belief. The FBI is the one agency between us and domestic jihadists, and they just cannot face up to their task. Their lack of action really puts us in danger. This is at least dereliction of duty, if not complete incompetence.

Recommended online reading from A Aaron Weisburd (link at the web page):

http://internet-haganah.co.il/harchives/005587.html

Communication and Media Strategy in the Jihadi War of Ideas
Steven R. Corman & Jill S. Schiefelbein
April 20, 2006
Consortium for Strategic Communication Report #0601
Arizona State University

...these stitching kits were good gifts for wives and daughters, a gift that will always remind them of the prophet. And which could be sold on ebay, thus providing an income without a woman having to leave the house.

I'm tempted to break into song at this point:

A sewing machine, a sewing machine
A girl's best friend
If I didn't have my sewing machine
I'd come to no good end

The Sewing machine, the sewing machine, a helping hand,
If I didn't have my sewing machine I would drink to beat the band...

As sung by Betty Hutton in the 1947 film The Perils of Pauline, a biopic of silent film star Pearl White.

Click on No 23 to hear more!

stitching kits ... that will always remind them of the prophet

Wouldn't it be blasphemous to embroider "the prophet"?

Eisenhund: the same should apply to the PRC. because of their government's cozying up to the mohammedan crackpots.

dear Eisenhund can you post more about this. I posted a list of similarities between leftists and Muslims, and this would be one more. Makes me wonder which one is the senior partner.

Two observations:

First, this is not the first time this has been done, won't be the last. Basically, the website manager left the directory structure open, the hackers took advantage of it to create new folders and store their files at his expense, not to mention the expense of his bandwidth. I think this site even mentions a very similar thing being done at the Arkansas state Dept of Trans website. Nothing new here, however undesirable.

Second, the FBI is stuck in the monitor mode, not the attack mode. They want to watch the website, see who visits it, try to read the tea leaves of its changes--but not give themselves away by shutting the site down, arresting the owner or its visitors. Exploitation is useful up to a point--but the idea of using the material and actions on a website for a door-kicking mission is still pretty much entirely foreign to the FBI.

Their struggle is not against modern society, but against non-Muslim, non-Sharia society.

longtime lurker

The ISP can and should take down the files and insist that the websiteholder figure out a way to protect himself (if the ISP is really a good guy, he/she/it can give suggestions). Otherwise the TOS are TOBS.