A fake suicide attempt was the beginning of a coordinated attack on guards. Looks like the anti-jihad rehab program is going swimmingly; I hope more of these capital fellows will be released soon.
Seriously, this indicates that the calls to close this place down are out of focus, and are based on political concerns that manifest no awareness whatsoever of the jihad ideology or the tenacity of those who hold it. I don't think that anything, or anything effective, is being done to disabuse the Guantanamo prisoners of that ideology, since we all have to pretend that Islam is a Religion of Peace™ and that therefore the Qur'ans issued to these prisoners will soothe them, rather than increase their ardor for jihad. However, I certainly don't think that releasing them will do anything but swell a bit the numbers of the global mujahedin. Calls to do so also manifest a failure to understand that we are actually at war.
"Guards and Detainees Clash at Guantanamo," from AP, with thanks to JE:
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - Prisoners with makeshift weapons battled guards trying to save a detainee pretending to commit suicide at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in what military officials said Friday was a coordinated attack that left six prisoners injured.Word of the injuries comes as a U.N. panel pressed the United States to close Guantanamo, saying the indefinite detention of terror suspects violates the ban on torture.
"This illustrates to me the dangerous nature of the men we have detained here," the detention center's commanding officer, Navy Rear Adm. Harry Harris, told reporters in a teleconference, describing Thursday's attack.
Dear United Nations,
1) These terrorists attacked us, not you.
2) We are fighting them, you aren't.
3) We captured them, you didn't.
We will do with them as we wish. Please mind your own damned business and take your protestations, sharpen both ends, turn them sideways, and insert them into a bodily orifice of your choice.
Run along now.
Honestly, the way you treat the prisoners at Guantanamo I believe they have everey moral right to do whatever they can to either a) escape or b) avenge the evils(!) comitted against them.
How can you (all US citizens) expect people to just sit down and silently suffer all kinds of humiliation and torment?
How can you (all US citizens) expect people to just sit down and silently suffer all kinds of humiliation and torment?
they dont have to sit down,just as long as they suffer
-Vagn Henning
When I'm sawing off your kid's head, screaming "God is Greater!", are you still going to have so much sympathy? How about when I walk on the bus and sit next to the pretty girl you were eyeing and set off the vest packed with Semtex and scrap metal?
Honestly, stow your sanctimony, pull your head out of your nethers and save your sympathy for those people who deserve it.
Like maybe the scores of millions that have been murdered and civilizations destroyed by these howling, scowling, sociopathic vermin over the last thirteen hundred years.
I'm starting to think the mohammedans have a secret, underground lab somewhere where they're cloning blind, self-righteous fools like you. Of course, that kind of paranoia is more their style.
Don't bother responding. I already wasted one torpedo on a rowboat, and this will not be a back and forth.
Honestly, the way you treat the prisoners at Guantanamo... - Henning
- Three meals a day, meticulously planned for variety and proper nutrition.
- Free medical care, the best the base has to offer.
- Modern standards of hygiene and sanitation
- Freedom to practice their religion (except for the jihad part). Complimentary prayer beads, skull cap, and copy of the Quran.
Boo hoo.
I hope our men at Gitmo take away the korans and prayer mats, sheets, matress, reading material and every other little comfort they have in their cell. It's called punishment for their actions. Something they haven't experienced yet.
Eisenhund, succinct and right on the mark.
If someone put me in a cage in the Cuban heat, used "moderate physical force" (a.k.a. torture to anyone with a bit of decency yet) to make me confess to all kinds of crap, and humiliated me every day for two years... The I would go f*cking nuts too. And I would not have one ounce of respect left for the country that sanctioned it.
I'm not saying that any of the prisoners at Guantanamo are innocent. Being captured armed in a war zone is a crime in my book too.
I'm sure that many of them would go straight out and commit gruesome crimes as soon as they're freed.
I also appreciate the fact that the crimes the inmates of Guantanamo are accused of are very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. But heck, the US Army has not even tried!
It's lawlessness. It's random...
... And it's the policy of the US
Should have shot them on the battlefield, after appropriate field trials, as saboteurs, spies and terrorists.
Then none of this ongoing nonsense would exist.
That the Gitmo leadership let these jihadis out of their cages to congregate for anything but a firing squad is naivete bordering on insanity.
Dear Concerned Vagn:
Thank you for your recent letter roundly criticizing our treatment of the Taliban and Al Qaeda detainees currently being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Our administration takes these matters seriously, and your opinion was heard loud and clear here in Washington. You'll be pleased to learn that, thanks to the concerns of citizens like you, we are creating a new division of the Terrorist Retraining Program, to be called the "Liberals Accept Responsibility for Killers" program, or LARK for short. In accordance with the guidelines of this new program, we have decided to place one terrorist under your personal care.
Your personal detainee has been selected and scheduled for transportation under heavily armed guard to your residence next Monday. Ali Mohammed Ahmed bin Mahmud (you can just call him Ahmed) is to be cared for pursuant to the standards you personally demanded in your letter of admonishment. It will likely be necessary for you to hire some assistant caretakers. We will conduct weekly inspections to ensure that your standards of care for Ahmed are commensurate with those you so strongly recommended in your letter.
Although Ahmed is sociopathic and extremely violent, we hope that your sensitivity to what you described as his "attitudinal problem" will help him overcome these character flaws.
Perhaps you are correct in describing these problems as mere cultural differences. He will bite you, given the chance. We understand that you plan to offer counseling and home schooling. Your adopted terrorist is extremely proficient in hand-to-hand combat and can extinguish human life with such simple items as a pencil or nail clippers. We do not suggest that you ask him to demonstrate these skills at your next yoga group. He is also expert at making a wide variety of explosive devices from common household products, so you may wish to keep those items locked up, unless (in your opinion) this might offend him.
Ahmed will not wish to interact with your wife or daughters (except sexually) since he views females as a subhuman form of property. This is a particularly sensitive subject for him, and he has been known to show violent tendencies around women who fail to comply with the new dress code that Ahmed will recommend as more appropriate attire. I'm sure they will come to enjoy the anonymity offered by the bhurka - over time. Just remind them that it is all part of "respecting his culture and his religious beliefs" - wasn't that how you put it?
Thanks again for your letter. We truly appreciate it when folks like you, who know so much, keep us informed of the proper way to do our job. You take good care of Ahmed - and remember...we'll be watching. Good luck!
Cordially...Your Buddy,
Don Rumsfeld
"Across Europe, dozens of people are now in hiding or under police protection because of threats from Muslim extremists. Dutch police say politicians reported 121 death threats last year. The number this year will likely be much higher".
Funny how we don't have that problem here.
Could it be......Guantanamo????
/Channeling Church Lady
Whenever comments are invited on the fate of the Guantanamo prisoners on the BBC website (or others) or newspapers, the overwhelming consensus (from those with non Islamic names) is totally condemnation of the prisoners with comments ranging from, "they're traitors" to "What the hell were they doing applying for a computer course in Afghanistan anyway" etc..
Unfortunately, our political masters and some left wing journalists have a rather different view. The best is to compare Guantanemo to a Nazi concentration camp...except that these inmates have put on weight, not being murdered and have access to their religious beliefs...and a few other things as well.
Van henning, where do you suggest the inmates be kept?
We don't need them in the U.S. We could set them up in the Ritz in Paris, but I'm afraid it might hurt their business.
Those people live in A.C. buildings. When they're on the yard they have the option I'm sure to just wear pants instead of the entire get up.
Those jihadists in Gitmo have NEVER had it so good. Great food, clean clothes and bedding, their cult book and mat. About the only things there they can't do is have sex with women and children, kill innocent people, and......have sex and kill. They aren't treated badly. Don't kid yourself.
Here's a quick test to determine whether it's torture or not. Imagine your average reasonable person being offered the choice: you can be fed into a shredder or you can be detained indefinitely by the Americans; your can watch your wife and daughters be raped or you can be held in custody without trial.
See the difference? Don't throw the word "torture" around so lightly. It is an insult to the people in this world who actually have been tortured.
Is it merely a coincidence that this coordinated and planned attack occurred the day before the UN was set to publish their phony report condemning the US at Gitmo?
Seems the UN can't be bothered to go and inspect GITMO before they write a report, but looks like someone sure did tell the inmates one was coming.
also appreciate the fact that the crimes the inmates of Guantanamo are accused of are very difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. But heck, the US Army has not even tried!
It's lawlessness. It's random...
... And it's the policy of the US
Posted by: Vagn Henning at May 20, 2006 11:01 AM
They should all be tried by military tribunals and summarily executed. Then you bleeding heart, sanctimonious hypocrites can stop belly aching and boohooing over this coterie of savage barbarians.
On behalf of the Great Satan, AKA the US, please accept our heartfelt apologies for preventing these maniacal muslim monsters from inflicting their satanic brutality on any more innocent people. Their right to a speedy trial and eventual release to fight and kill another day are imperative, and it will cheer you to know that the ACLU, the despicable United Nothing, and every other left-wing, self-hating idiot in the US and elsewhere are working feverishly to ensure that these persecuted bastards get the justice they deserve. The US is SOOOOOOOOOO EVIL; I am wallowing in SHAME!!!