My email is bulging with strange missives today. Here's one from the Missing The Point Department:
sir i am pakistani but in reality i am a muslim and i want to join iran army but whats the proces that i join the iranian army please send me an advise about this process.i am inter passed.if u can doing it for me.then i am become a most lucky man then i will be waiting for urs reply .i have more dreams in my heart but the probleum is that i am so weak in english and i cant telling my topics.please i need urs help pl do some thing for me
Note the assumption that his Islamic religion trumps his nationality. Note also that this may be an indication that Musharraf could have a bit more cleaning up to do than he likes to admit.
He must have typed "jihad" at google. This site ranks first. The zombie apparently has little knowledge of English so he must have come here. It is a big negative. Now computers are being taught in madrasas. The muslims realize this will help jihad. That is why we have trolls like Naseem who have mastered complex grammer, unlike 95% of muslims.
This is too funny. Robert, I'll bet you're staying in stitches today.
Maybe this one is the best of the best.
I guess the mujadeen in Pakistan isn't good enough and he wants to fight for Iran. This is like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.
Well," stupid is as stupid does"...Forrest Gump.
Well, its indeed a strange message. If this man wants to join the army of Iran WHY does he need advice here ?
The only advice I could give him would be to declare on the army admission forms that he's jewish, gay and intelligent.
All 3 motives will give him an immediate death sentence in Iran...but just don't tell him.
Is there a full moon tonight? These guys are coming out of the woodwork today.
You notice that too? There's a new mohammedan that posted on a previous thread today as well, at the bottom of "Islamic scholars to issue pro-Hamas fatwa".
Sometimes its like after the rain, when all the worms come out of the ground.
Is there a full moon tonight? These guys are coming out of the woodwork today.
Never mind the full moon; isn't the crescent moon already causing enough trouble? ;)
I thought the two things went together - unless one happened to be an unfortunate Christian, Sikh or Hindu still trapped in that shithole.
Too bad JihadWatch doesn't have a place to direct such clowns - something resembling an execution chamber.
Why the Iranian army?
It begs the question...How did Pakistan develop an atomic bomb?
The lund arjun.sevak (probably some nasty little bhramin) says "That is why we have trolls like Naseem who have mastered complex grammer, unlike 95% of muslims".
I am no troll, I have been here for over 2 years making a positive contribution to debates that I have participated in.
The grammer of other muslims (other than my immediate family) is of no concern to me.
Why the Iranian army?
Posted by: HaMalach at May 8, 2006 03:06 PM
Because the Saudi "Army" (Frontier Forces) are a joke.
Just guessing (about the motivation not the Saudis)
i have more dreams in my heart
I would love to hear more on these dreams?
Perhaps Robert could reply...
Somebody once mentioned on this web site that in India IT means Information Technology however in pakistan it means islamic terrorism !
You would think that any "normal" person would actually be ashamed to write such rubbish.
This is what they want to reduce humanity to ?
Go straight to Gitmo.
Do not pass "Go".
Do not collect $200.
The word must be out that Iran needs a bigger army.If this dope applys to the first "jihad" site he sees,than maybe he feels that he will be too late for the fight...like an actor in Time Square,late for an audition,asking anyone that looks hip to his plight,for help...How large did America's army grow shortly before our entrance into WWII?
Or Germany's before their invasions,for that matter...
In the years leading up to WWII Americas Army was woefully equipped. We were using wooden guns and trucks with "TANK" spray painted on them in training. After Pearl Harbor there were lines around the recruiting buildings.
OT: Moussaui is wanting to change his plea. I think Supermax prison is beginning to scare the doo-doo out of him.
Definitions of Troll:
(I have posted three so that people can take their pick). Hmmm...parts of them, one could substitute the word Muslim and come out with a match.
There is such a thing as a subtle troll. See: Naseem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion
http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm
An Internet "troll" is a person who delights in sowing discord on the Internet. He (and it is usually he) tries to start arguments and upset people.
Trolls see Internet communications services as convenient venues for their bizarre game. For some reason, they don't "get" that they are hurting real people. To them, other Internet users are not quite human but are a kind of digital abstraction. As a result, they feel no sorrow whatsoever for the pain they inflict. Indeed, the greater the suffering they cause, the greater their 'achievement' (as they see it). At the moment, the relative anonymity of the net allows trolls to flourish.
Trolls are utterly impervious to criticism (constructive or otherwise). You cannot negotiate with them; you cannot cause them to feel shame or compassion; you cannot reason with them. They cannot be made to feel remorse. For some reason, trolls do not feel they are bound by the rules of courtesy or social responsibility.
Perhaps this sounds inconceivable. You may think, "Surely there is something I can write that will change them." But a true troll can not be changed by mere words.
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/T/troll.html
2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.” Compare kook.
Heh, this goof must have thought that jihadwatch.org is a monsterjobs recruitment site for jihadis. ;P
I can see the tagline now:
"Visit jihadwatch.org, where it's all jihad, all the time! Refer us to friends, and get 20 extra virgins! Must be 18 or younger to join."
Naseem: "I am no troll, I have been here for over 2 years making a positive contribution to debates that I have participated in."
You’re right. You’re not a troll. You’re the Borg, mouthing mechanically in post after post, “ Resistance is futile - you will be assimilated". That’s a more apt characterization of the kind of “zombie” arjun.sevak was describing.
Ms. Caroline, I have to respectfully disagree with you. Just because I disagree with you and many others doesn't necessarily make me wrong.
Islam is like a mantra though ...and practice makes perfect and provides peace of mind and the roadway to Allah SWT.
Wanna know what I think? Well, I'm gonna tell ya anyway. I think that we are having our collective legs pulled. I think the JW/DW e-mail server needs the sarcasm filter updated.
Read what this jackass Zogby just wrote. I got so damm upset I had to take a few deep breaths. Just look at this manure . . . don't take sides, Jewish groups with unpure hands, don't forget about the evil Israelis. His heart is pure though, right? I tried to post a comment, but I think the Huffingtonpost has banned me for being a Zionist. I hate when that happens:
"James Zogby
Bio
05.08.2006
Why I Spoke at the Darfur Rally (2 comments )
READ MORE: Israel, Iraq
Last week, I was invited to speak at the Save Darfur mobilization in Washington, DC. The decision to accept was both easy and complicated.
Easy, because how could any person of conscience ignore the need to speak out in defense of the victims of the horrible conflict that has been raging in the western part of Sudan?
The stories of widespread rape, the slaughter of innocents, the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the dislocation of families make Darfur one of the great tragedies of this new century.
But two factors made my decision a complicated one. One was related to the complications inherent in the conflict itself. The other, had to do with the make up of the US-based movement that is supporting Darfur.
There are, to be quite blunt about it, no "good guys" in the Darfur conflict. Elements on all sides of this madness have committed atrocities. What has been done cannot be explained away as "defense" or "mistakes" as the parties would have it.
To make matters worse, there are divisions within the ranks of the various factions that add even greater complexity to the picture. And then there is the ever-present and growing danger represented by the involvement of Sudan and its neighbor Chad both in Darfur and in each other's internal affairs.
A further complication was presented by the fact that at the very same time is this mobilization was occurring, the government of Sudan and the major rebel groups were involved in African Union (AU) sponsored negotiations in Abuja, Nigeria. In fact, the date of the Washington rally coincided with the deadline the AU had given the parties to complete their talks and sign a peace agreement. There were some who raised concern that the rally itself might lead some parties to stiffen their opposition to signing the agreement.
And then there were questions raised by the composition of the coalition itself and the views of some of the speakers who were to participate in the Washington mobilization. It is a fact that a number Evangelical Christian organizations who had been engaged in controversial missionary/conversion efforts in Darfur were involved, as were some Jewish groups who had a history of using Sudan as an issue to drive a wedge between Arabs and Africans.
Some of the rhetoric in the US about Darfur has been shaped by these groups and their perspectives. In some articles, the conflict is presented as an "Arab-led genocide against black Africans," others have either mistakenly or deliberately conflated their oversimplified view of the Southern Sudan-Khartoum conflict with Darfur and have, therefore, portrayed Darfur as if it were an "Muslim assault on Christian and animist Africans!"
With no other Arab speaker on the program, I understood what might be interpreted either by my absence or my presence at the rally. After consultations with several Arab friends and a number of experts on African affairs, I resolved to participate.
It was important that Arab Americans make clear our deep concern with the humanitarian crisis in Darfur. Our presence in this multi-ethnic multi-religious coalition sends this message.
And while we may have had questions about some of the groups involved in the Save Darfur effort, the coalition included significant respected US and international organizations as well. The International Crisis Group, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, Amnesty International, the AFL-CIO/Solidarity Center and a number of US Muslim groups had signed on as sponsors. My presence, I hoped, would give voice to our concern and help provide some balance in the day's discussions.
I focused my remarks on two central points: support for the peace talks in Abuja, urging the parties to accept the AU mediation efforts; and recognition of the growing consensus at the United Nations, shared by many members of the African Union and Arab League that more must be done to secure the peace in Darfur, protect the innocent, return the displaced, punish those who have committed war crimes and provide more humanitarian assistance to those in need--but recognition, as well, that this consensus had to be acted upon.
I noted that we should commit ourselves to take no side in this conflict, but the side of peace with justice and the protection of innocents.
I closed by urging the participants to make universal their commitment to fighting injustice, terror and war, by expanding their vision to include not only Darfur but Iraq, and Israel/Palestine as well.
It is hoped that the Abuja process will bear fruit, but, even with an agreement, there are enormous challenges ahead. If the mobilization accomplished anything at all, it is that silence, passivity, or concern without action are not enough. Too many lives have been lost and too many are still at risk"
ever wonder why muslims say peace be upon mohhamad,because there is no peace for the wicked.allah is satan...just saw flight 93...i hate islam even more than before.
Naseem: "Islam.... provides peace of mind.."
So does death. That is the only peace that Islam understands, which is why it celebrates death. It knows nothing of the kind of peace that comes with dwelling within what one might call the Tao - life, creation, love, eternal change.
How could it know such a thing? It's based on a lie, on the delusional rantings of a murderer, a psychopath with no regard for human life. Hence it is life-negating, and can only produce mechanical Borgs such as yourself.
There's also a kind of peace of mind when one is not bothered by all those "thoughts" and "choices" one might have to make.
Gotta make up your mind? Don't worry about it!
Mad Mo made it up for you fourteen hundred years ago.
Phew! Now I don't have to make a decision or deal with the moral or ethical consequences.
I hear quite a few of those Einsatzkommando guys had "peace of mind".
"It wasn't my fault, I was just following orders."
How can one have a peace of mind in a religion, knowing if you want to leave it , you'll be killed?
freewoman: "How can one have a peace of mind in a religion, knowing if you want to leave it , you'll be killed?"
Most Muslims, like Naseem, are already dead. They're the walking dead. The burka is a shroud.
If you want to do something for him, how about forwarding his e-mail with the full headers (and all the IP addressed) to the FBI or Department of Homeland Security?
I don't suppose jihadwatch can partner with the FBI to meet guys like him and maybe arrest them or try to get intelligence out of them?
Biorabbi,
You really shouldn't be surprised by Zogby's comments.James Zogby is a Christian Arab and the head of an Arab-American group. He's also a well known apologist for "Palestinian" terrorists. I've seen him on C-Span defending the "Palestinians". His purpose in appearing at the Darfur rally was to try to separate Arabs/Muslims from the latest round of genocide in Africa. Since we know Muslims have been getting a lot of bad press lately what with the atrocities they've committed in the US, Isreal, India, Russia, Iraq, Britain, Bali, Turkey and Spain just to name a few examples. His brother is John Zogby the discredited pollster who predicted John Kerry's Presidential victory back in March 2004.Never mind that Kerry hadn't even been nominated and no votes had been cast.
While I am a relative newcomer to J/W I try to read all comments. The wealth of information that I have obtained from reading such posts I cannot begin to describe(including how to spot a troll nassem).
I thank you all.
"Islam is like a mantra though ...and practice makes perfect and provides peace of mind and the roadway to Allah SWT." Naseem
Yes the roadway to Allah with roadside bombs in all.
Ah a rock song is coming into my head...yep...Highway to Hell!
biorabbi: (from James Zogby): "But two factors made my decision a complicated one. One was related to the complications inherent in the conflict itself. The other, had to do with the make up of the US-based movement that is supporting Darfur."
i.e. my ego and the way other people see me in terms of my public group-affiliations (my reputation), takes precedence over genocide.
"I am no troll" Naseem
You are right. Trolls are superior to muslims!
Trolling is better then Jihading!
from Naseem: (on Islam)...practice makes perfect and provides peace of mind and the roadway to Allah SWT.
14 centuries of practice and yet the Islamic world continually ranks far worse than their Western counterparts in literacy, poverty, technology, unemployment, and even life expectancy. (not to mention freedoms).
If Islam is superior, why is the Islamic world so measurably inferior in comparison to the West?
Is peace of mind even enviable if it comprises looking forward to DEATH?
This sentence from one of the definition of trolls accurately describes Nassem and the other trolls on this site.
Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll.”
Xero G: "If Islam is superior, why is the Islamic world so measurably inferior in comparison to the West?"
That's a question Naseem has never honestly asked of herself. But she intuitively knows the answer nonetheless. Which is why she has sent her son off to be educated in Britain rather than in Pakistan, where she lives.
Iran Focus: London, May 08 – Kuwaiti security services have uncovered and arrested a group of agents belonging to Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) that were spying on locations used by American personnel in Kuwait, according to an Arab-language website.
this is not good news!
Robert --
You apparently get a lot of these requests.
Perhaps some office in Washington, with a slightly larger staff, and slightly deeper pockets ($1 trillion per annum -- that's slightly deeper, isn't it?) will find a way to relieve you of answering all this email, and I can think of at least one big building in Arlington, Virginia, where quite a few well-disciplined volunteers are standing by to answer all such e-mail that you might forward. Indeed, they are eage to reply to such offers of help by those who wish to sacrifice everything for the Jihad.
In fact, a sample reply, that could be translated and made culture-specific in a few dozen languages, beginning with English, French, Arabic, Urdu, Turkish, Bengali, and others, is now ready.
It goes like this:
"As salaam aleikum. Your desire to help and to sacrifice is much appreciated. In order to send your offer of help to the Jihad Recruiting Office closest to you, we will need your name, your address, and whatever else you think our recruiting office would need to contact you personally. We can't promise an immediate answer, but you will definitely be hearing from us. Don't forget to send that information as promptly as possible. Again, thanking you for your offer to sacrifice everything for the Jihad and for the ummah. If only there were more such Believers just like you. And if you have friends who think as you do, please give their names, addresses, e-mail accounts, and telephone numbers, and suggest a time when we may be sure to reach them. You will be hearing from us, or from our representatives near you, shortly. Please be patient."
The rest is simple.
"Don't forget to send that information as promptly as possible."
...along with a $25 fee, in order to process your application, in the form of a check or money order made out to "Hugh, c/o JihadWatch"....:-)
PA Religious Group Says Christian Zionists Worship Satan
21:33 May 08, '06 / 10 Iyar 5766
by Hana Levi Julian
A senior Palestinian Authority religious leader said Monday on a PA-affiliated website that Christian Zionists worship “Satan as G-d”, according to an article on the Palestinian Media Watch website.
The author of the article, Hamed Al-Tamimi, is a member of the Supreme [Islamic] Judicial Council. The Palestinian Media Watch notes that Al-Tamimi has held that position since before the election of Hamas as the new PA ruling party.
i thought they said he was the same god?.....islam the lie that keeps on giving.
Mates I just found this Carlos Mencia bloke. He has quite a way with words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQXsrrrf2zw
Hugh,
Absolutly perfect.
And do include caroline's idea of a donation er membership fee. If you get the 25 next time try for more. This guy sounds like he's ready to lay down some serious dough in pursuit of eternal peace. Jihadi's funding anti-jihad. Great!
The Science of Islam
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AdiAJdyh4VA&search=stupid%20muslims
"islam the lie that keeps on giving"
Very well said Campingman. But trying to get mobots to realize this is like trying to stop trolls like Naseem from positing here.
Muslims are living a fantasy life. The only satisfaction I take is that when the big man comes down from above and calls people to account, the muslims will shit their turbans when they realize that Mo and Co. were indeed the Satan followers the infidels made them out to be and that they are in really big trouble.
I can also envision them starting the blame everybody but themselves routine, Mohammed forced me to follow him... my iman lied to me... my father married his cousin and I'm not quit right in the head, etc. etc.
But at the end of their whinning rant, the bottom line will be that they didn't use their G*d given brains nor heart to judge for themselves what was right and wrong. And the cowardly losers will pay a very heavy fine for this.
This is very sad. The man is so happy and wants to do what he thinks is the right thing; going to war. A shame really.
Hey! wait a minute!
I recognize the tone and timbre.
It's really Musharraf!!!
Damn. The curious thing..and this may be of a modicum of interest to the readers here...but just about every Pak officer I have ever dealt with has at least 2 stars on their shoulder board and so therefore I've always wondered (along with fellow officers) exactly how many generals/leaders can one country have?
On the other hand, given the realpolitik of Pakistan, perhaps Musharraf might be best served in another nation's military.
Hey I just thought of something. Why are we afraid of numbers ? One poster was worried by numbers of muslims. It was 1.3. billion. But that is what they are. Just numbers. NOT human beings of even an iota of compassion. That is why they breed like roaches (beg your pardon roach.I posted your virtues in another thread.). They breed so they can have more suicide bombers and more people to shoot, knife, maim, skin, slit, saw, beat, cut and kill. And every single one of them is going to get his 72 for doing so. Why are we worried ? Let 'em have it.
Robert, you could tell all these people to meet in a certain area, on a certain day and time and to come naked............
This would ensure they get the ridicule they deserve then the police could pick them up for indecent exposure and the FBI or MI5 or ASIO would know who the jihadists are.
Robert: Are you sure that you want to show us this stupid and illiterate letter?
These guys mean business. DO NOT be amused. There are already 3 - 4 BILLION dead by their hands.
Western Infidel asked, "It begs the question...How did Pakistan develop an atomic bomb?"
By sucking on a Chinese dick, and dropping the pants for North Korea. The Chinese gave Pakistan the nuclear bomb technology and the North Korea the missile technology.
Naseem wrote, "...practice makes perfect and provides peace of mind and the roadway to Allah SWT."
"SWT" is the strangest misspelling of "SHIT" I have seen.
campingman1
Muslims have been saying for a while that allah and God were the same. However, since 9/11, here and at LGF, commentators have made a good case that allah is really Satan.
So all this imam is doing is to parrot what has been said about allah in the first place. Just imitation, as is usual with muslims.
atanu
Quite right about how Pakistan got the nukes.
From a Serb wit.
Q: Why did it take Pakistan so long to make nukes?
A: They had to first learn to read Chinese.
Bill the crusader says "islam the lie that keeps on giving" But trying to get mobots to realize this is like trying to stop trolls like Naseem from positing here."
Mr.Crusader.... I have always said that the day Messers Spencer and/or Fitzgerald say they no longer want me to post ...I'll stop instantly. They don't have to ban me....just say the words & I'll comply.
I would like add the comment though that..."do you really just want an online club of gentlemens, where you can have gentle hand claps, with the odd hear hear and all members agreeing with each other...even if it is wrong?"
Don't you want to know the real peace of Islam...rather than read it in a book...deviod of context or emotion.
Please understand that Islam is a religion like no other...its offers of paradise are beautiful and succilent...also there are so many ways to get there.
My way is peaceful dawa....and in my opinion muslims are wrong (and don't need to) to want to do anything else.
Dar-al-harb need have no fear of Dar-al_islam coming in peacefully.
Muslims need to remember that they need the infedel to keep society's "essential engines" running, which can leave us more time to praise Allah SWT all the more.
The infedel will succumb/convert only through peace...this is the smart thing to do ....it is a much more powerful thing to do...we will have many more of the infedel on our side...funnily enough lots of them seem to hate their administration and their faith...the muslims in the West must be smart enough to tap into this unbounded infedel energy & use it for Islam....peacefully.
So let us muslims do the job you infedel don't want to...the taxis, busses, butchers, the cleaning, looking after the prisions, etc.
We will also do other things that the infedel does not want to do ...like arrest their falling birthrate...and ensure that newly born are borne into Islam.
That is why I say "there is no place for holy war....no place for jihad"...because it is not needed...peaceful dawa is the best and most powerful way forward....and it reinforces the fact that Islam is a religion of peace.
Naseem would never be banned. Naseem is one of our most valuable contributors.
i myself want naseem to keep talking...so america can see the danger of islam....
allah has many names,al-llah,baal,bel,sin,belial and amm among a few.
I would suggest that he find a pointed stick, go to the Pakistani/Afghan border, find a US unit patrolling said border, get their attention, and then charge them from a distance of about 100 yards while screaming "Allah Akbar".
Naseem....you make me laugh so much. A mantra is nothing more than a meaningless word repeated over and over and over and over again. Key word here is MEANINGLESS!
Hugh
You just made its big ego even bigger. However, I do wish others heeded you, and just ignored her, the temptations notwithstanding.
Jewish Girl...Assalamau-Laikum to you,
It is so lovely to speak to another woman, one who shares a common anscestory with the muslim.
I am an admirer of the jewish work ethic and success you have had over the past 50 years. Ofcourse much of this is in jepordy now....but peace be to you on an indiviual basis.
You say "A mantra is nothing more than a meaningless word repeated over and over and over" indeed it is and I have two mantras..."Allah" and "peaceful dawa"...but meaningless they are not my dear.
I am working hard to convince my muslim ummah that these two words are the KEY to fulfill Allah's wish of spreading the magic of Islam on a global scale.
All will sucuumb to this magic...weaved by Allah, practised by the muslim and economically supported by the infedel....truly Allah works in mysterious ways.
naseem writes..weaved by Allah....like a spiders web....need i say more?
naseems,
I'm surprised at you. You are neglecting to end your posts with the always righteous and important:
"Hallowed are the Ori"
Please correct this. And always remember,
"Adelenus chose to hunt the lion and was eaten by his prey."
Roxane,
I do not understand why an Arab CHRISTIAN, whose ancesters and extended family to this day are suffering so much at the hands of the muslims, would choose to defend their tormentors. Are they so dhimmified? Or what?