It was only a matter of time before they caved. And now they have. "Quartet agrees to channel aid to Palestinians," from Reuters, with thanks to LGF:
UNITED NATIONS (Reuters) - The quartet of Middle East peace brokers agreed on Tuesday on a way to channel aid to the Palestinians for a trial period to ease a financial squeeze on the new government following the election of Hamas.The group of international mediators -- the United States, Russia, the
European Union and the United Nations -- issued a statement after a day of talks in which Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia warned of a civil war if the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority was left to collapse."The quartet expressed its willingness to endorse a temporary international mechanism that is limited in scope and duration, operates with full transparency and accountability," said the quartet statement.
The move came after the World Bank warned on Monday that the Palestinian Authority could face a breakdown in law and order and basic services unless foreign donors step in to pay the salaries of about 165,000 civil servants.
Needless to say, this is insane. Will we ever see an American politician who gets it?
BTW, speaking of outrages, did anyone see the add in the back of the Washington Times today for the website "doubtcome.com" ? The add expressed how "zionists" had "hypnotized political Christianity" while Muslims looked on is "disbelief." Needless to say, I was outraged to find such brazen antisemitism in the Washinton Times, a journal which I mainly regarded as pro-Israel. Doing some homework on the internet, I found that this hate group had also advertised in the LA Times and NY Times.
Here is a pro-Palestinian website praising the NY Times for running one of doubtcome's revolting adds:
"There was one remarkably positive and hard-hitting quarter-page ad in the entire one-month survey of The New York Times and The Washington Post. It was on June 23, 2002 in the Post’s “Outlook” section, sponsored by a popular Washington, DC restaurant. In toto, it said the following: “Have Zionists turned Jewish beliefs into a political party in the service of hatred and greed? Come on, let’s be honest! If you doubt it, check it out. DOUBTCOME.COM always on the web.” The ad was sponsored by Marrakesh Enterprises, 617 New York Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20001, (202) 393-9393"
link: http://www.wrmea.com/archives/august2002/0208026.html
So as you see, this is being sponsored by Arabs. In fact, Gaby Kouchacji, the person running the website is a Maronite born in Syria. It seems that he also heads a foundation that gives awards for "courage" (more likely, dhimmitude and Jew-hatred) in journalism. Here is the link:
http://kacj.org/
And here is the neoNazi's biography:
http://kacj.org/Founder.html
Does anyone know more about this guy and his connections?
"Quartet agrees to channel aid to Palestinians"
It's a shame that the title Quatuor pour la fin du temps has already been taken. And the synaesthete Olivier Messiaen would surely agree that the sounds coming out of this quartet don't taste purple at all.
Ok, let's see if I've got this right.
Muhammad says you should invite your enemies to accept Islam, so.....Ahmadinejad sends a letter to Bush that ends with something that sounds like an invitation to Islam.
Muhammad says if your enemies do not accept your invitation, you should first demand the Jizyah from them, so.....US caves and agrees to send money to Hamas.
My guess: it's a "good faith deposit"...more to follow.
I think I'm gonna be sick.
Well then - the government ought to free Sami Al-Arian. Apparently its not a crime to fund a terrorist organization after all.
From restaurateur (two in Washington) to manger of a pro-Arab website, and with offices in Montreux as well (possibly his prescriptions are filled by the Egyptian pharmacist in the Palace Hotel), Kouchacji may merely be a well-paid front man for Saudi or other Arab money. How, by the way, are those two Washington restaurants doing? And what are their names again?
No "Palestinian" entity is economically viable. There are no resources. The population has, over many decades, been allowed to descend into primitive behavior, extreme inshallah-fatalism coupled with reliance on assured Jizyah payments (either through the U.N., the E.U., the American government, or all three) that are received as by right, and indignation and rage greet the very idea that Infidels would cease to support those shock troops, the local Arabs who were carefully re-named "Palestinians" after the 1967 war.
The Infidels can continue to pay Jizyah, with all the psychological consquences for both the immediate and menacing beneficiaries, and for other Muslims who find everything right, and nothing wrong, with Muslims being continuously supported by non-Muslims.
Or a break can be made. The break should be made. It would help change the perception in the Arab and Muslim world of what can be expected of Infidels, of the limits they will now put on their generosity, their credulity, their willingness to appease and appease. It will be a very good thing if one wishes the Muslims to come to their senses, so that at least some of them may turn their attention not to making incessant war on Infidels or demanding signs of subjugation, but in examining the nature and function of Islam.
And that break will also help Infidels, as they try to come to grips, far too slowly, with the meaning of Islam, of its real as opposed to its claimed contents, its meaning as apprehended by Believers, and the ways in which that apprehended meaning is acted out all over the world -- to the great and growing horror of those Infidels who are paying sufficient attention, and have kept their wits about them.
If this decision has in truth been taken, it is stupid beyond all reckoning. And dangerous. And harmful to Infidel interests and Infidel lives. Everyone should bombard their Congressmen and everyone else they can think of. This Jizyah must be stopped.
Let them get Arab money. Don't prevent it from being transferred. But only Arab (and other Muslim) money. Not a cent from any Infidel state -- for any Muslims, whether "Palestinians" or another kind. The habit of Jizyah-giving, and Jizyah-demanding, must be ended. As noisily and publicly, as possible.
"From restaurateur (two in Washington) to manger of a pro-Arab website, and with offices in Montreux as well"
Great job Hugh! I knew I could count on you to turn up something.
LGF reports via Reuters that Hamas and Fatah have called a truce! Just like that! I guess they got the memo from the Quartet. Temper tantrum all done.
Shinoliite/
At the end of time all sounds will taste purple, anyway - and I didn't need Messiaen to tell me that. Basically, s--t happens (purpure - slang for a full nappy).
I tried to resist his overtures, but he plied me with ... quartettes ...
S.J. Perelman
I can't remember who said it but I love this one -
Time is that quality of nature which keeps events from happening all at once. Lately it doesn't seem to be working.
Dominic.
So they can find the money to give to the "Palestinians" but they can't find any money to give to the victims of those people who've been victims of Muslim militias in Africa? I swear I will never donate to a UN aid or relief program. Who knows where they will spend the money. Private charities from now on.
Not quite on topic, but we shouldn't forget about this travesty that was once covered at Dhimmi Watch. In order of appearance:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009117.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009383.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009526.php
And now this most recent update:
http://www.mg.co.za/articlepage.aspx?area=/breaking_news/breaking_news__africa/&articleid=271248
Why should we care if there is a civil war in "Palestine"? If Arabs and Muslims are so concerned let them send money to the "Palestinians". I'm beyond disgusted by this, the "Palestinians" elected Hamas they should have to live with the consequences of that decision.
I am really tired of Jizyah that is called "Humanitarian Aid".
I have a revoloutionary idea.
Arab Barbarians need food and medicine for their people?
SHIP THEM FREAKIN FOOD AND MEDICINE BUT DO NOT GIVE THEM A SINGLE PENNY!
It is the way I deal with beggars and homeless people, I give them food, and clean water or gatorade, I NEVER give them money.
Just as you should give a bum food instead of money he may spend on alchohol, you ought to give Arabs Food and Medicine, instead of money that they are garunteed to spend on weapons the way they always do.
Does anyone else agree with me on this?
condsidering the UN's money is mostly american. And Russia probably won't be giving much I think its safe to say the US and EU will be resuming the Jizya.
NicephorusPhocas-- Unfortunately, I'd expect a situation similar to that of the "humanitarian" aid sent to North Korea:
The Palestinian Authority will balk at requests for oversight with respect to how the aid is distributed, and horde it for the leadership and "military," such as it is in the PA with its various armed terrorist groups.
I'm certain Hamas has the money and the connections to get whatever they need from their Arab brethren. They're just holding the populace hostage (though a large number of those people freely chose to vote for Hamas in the first place) to twist the arm of the West into continuing the jizyah, so as not to divert money from the ummah for trifling things like medicine and government salaries, as opposed to jihad.
Remember, in Islam they can steal from the Infidel West without the moral implications of doing the same to fellow believers. That's "fun money," and the same with other goods and services from the US and Europe.
Now, money from fellow believers: that's "their" money, and they'll spend it much more carefully. Not unlike a child with an allowance, who needs to get a job to learn the real value of money.
Overall, however, it's quite Machiavellian, actually: Only be gratuitous with spreading plunder among the populace. Otherwise, be thrifty with the treasury.
I can understand Bush's insistence on resuming jizya payments to the "Palestinians", well, actually I don't understand it but I guess I'm getting used to it. But isn't there a little hiccup in this plan, a little fly in the ointment? Am I wrong, or did Congress pass a law making it illegal to give aid to groups on the terrorist watch list? And am I wrong, or is Hamas on that watch list? Does our dhimmitude run so deep, that we will begin to ignore our own laws just to appease the Muslims?
And make no mistake, this money will go to purchase and manufacture weapons. This money will be used to kill Israeli citizens. Everytime I think we cannot sink any lower, we do the dhimmi limbo and move the stick down a few notches.
THIS IS JUST NUTS!
The palestinians vote a terrorist regime into office. They did this deliberately, while they hate jews and the west until the last drop of blood has flown. It was their good right to make this choice, but it is my right to say NO, I will not give you aid. They made this bed, they can lie in it.
How many of us really truly think that the aid will go where it should? How much of it will simply disappear into certain pockets, never to be seen again? Replay old news broadcasts from 1979, from 1984, from 1987, from 1993, from 1996 and it is always the same old crap, just newly packaged: "the poor, suffering, starving palestinians."
I can tell you how this money will resurface: it will resurface in the form of kassam rockets and body bombs, resulting in dead israelis, whose deaths we will have in part paid for. If we give even once cent to these horrible criminals, then we are aiding and abetting in the sure near future murder of innocent israeli citizens.
The whole point of shutting off the payments was to force Hamas out of power, to let the palestinian people know how displeased we are with terrorists, and now, less than four months later, we are already coddling them. And the europeans harping about fairness and humanness. Had they only been one tenth as fair and human to jews starting 70 years ago.
Write Bush and his band of neo-con cronies and tell them NO NO NO NO NO, not with our tax money!
THIS IS JUST NUTS!!!!!
Why was the last post deleted by that girl. I know noone wanted to hear that but we cant censor people.
More government corruption, lining their own pockets while selling out the planet. Sheeesh.
Food / medicine is allowable, but cash is not and probally not needed. It will be "extra" funds, to be used for ...?
Saw a story on fox last night, a ship underway and into/under palestinian control was approached by a Israel military ship, and started dumping multi- tons of TNT into the sea. The ship was reported to come from Egypt.
Someone paid for this, and it was going to palestinian lands for what?
Take the funds and instead give them to US citizens, i.e. loans, for hybrid cars, anything to lower the use of oil. Think that will happen?
it's simple, it's backwards racism....ooohh i must be a racist/bigot if I don't fund a people who want to wipe out an entire race...ooo but they're so poor (ie too busy jihading) and they're about to go into a civil war (if circa 1939 Germany had been going into a civil war you think anyone would have given them money so Hitler could have stayed in power?). I must say I had hopes that things were going to change with us not funding those terrorists, but now...
oh and one more thing, we are all complaining about this here on this site, but we need to be calling up our senators and letting them know that this is UNACCEPTABLE to us (the caps for fierce emphasis). Send e-mails, write letters, make phone calls. The only way things change is if there are people who make enough noise about it. This site is great and is a huge wealth of information, but what good is a candle under a bowl - Jesus. If we don't speak out about this then we might as well all wear matching T-shirts that say Dhimmi on it. Because our silence is just the same.
shinolite
I agree with you, do not send them a single penny, instead send them a few tons of Beef and Medicine.
Just like I always give some food to beggars and homeless, but never give them any money.
I also do not think there is any humanitarian crisis to begin with, nobody is starving.
The bleeding heart Dhimmis just invented and claimed that without any proof.
Erik
When I awoke to this news this morning, I was absolutely livid and ready to fire off emails to my senators and reps back home (Chicago district). Then I came into my office and after doing some reading, noticed that George Bush had already beaten me to it. After all, our "national security" depends upon our giving billions of dollars to the Palestinians, don't ya know?
http://www.northrup.org/photos/Key%20West/General/
Whew! Definitely took a wrong turn at that link... try this one:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1145961313237&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Truly Allah SWT works in mysterious ways!!
Someday they will do something right, someday.
special_guest: "Am I wrong, or did Congress pass a law making it illegal to give aid to groups on the terrorist watch list? And am I wrong, or is Hamas on that watch list? Does our dhimmitude run so deep, that we will begin to ignore our own laws just to appease the Muslims?"
Special_guest - apparently you're a hothead like me jumping to the conclusion that this aid is funding a terrorist group, in contrindication to our own laws (i.e. the same laws that got Al_Arian convicted). Apparently it's more subtle than that. This is aid which is supposedly to bypass Hamas itself and be routed directly to the Palestinian people.
(from the article): "The United States, which initially opposed a European proposal to channel aid to the Palestinians via an international mechanism such as the World Bank, said any such move would have to be limited in scope and mechanism so aid would not reach the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority."
Right. Got it. Cause it's not like the poor Palestinians themselves have anything whatsoever to do with the fact that Hamas is now in charge. They're just innocent bystanders to that fact. And it's not like monies sent DIRECTLy to the poor Palestinians themselves could ever - EVER! - find their way to Hamas! No. No Way!
The U.S, is walking a very fine - A VERY FINE - line here. If any of that money gets to Hamas ("Oh no! We had no idea!") - then I reiterate my original comment - namely, free Sami Al-Arian. There's no practical difference as far as I can see.
A thought. Assuming the "aid" money does go to the Palestinians, what's to stop them from donating it (or a portion) to Hamas? I'm not sure how the PA operates, but isn't it logical to assume that some of that "aid" money will eventually find its way to Hamas in the form of taxes?
Fellow hothead Caroline said
We're just getting rid of the middleman, Hamas. We used to give the money to the PA, who after subtracting whatever graft and bribes were appropriate, gave the remainder to the men who built Kassam rockets and bomb belts.
Now, with our new and improved plan, we'll directly give the money to the men who are building the Kassam rockets and bomb belts. Much more efficient.
This is just a game to the Administration. If not this lame excuse, then there would be some other. We all knew this was coming. We all know where the money is going, and what it will be used for.