British Jihad Update: "4 terror suspects arrested in U.K.," from the Toronto Star, with thanks to Sr. Soph:
Four additional terror suspects have been arrested in London under Britain's anti-terrorism laws and reports say officials are investigating whether the men are linked to an alleged Ontario terror plot.The four, all British citizens, are in custody in a London police station. One man, aged 28, was arrested yesterday and the three others, two 21-year-olds and a 29-year-old, were arrested Monday.
The arrests were part of a British investigation that led to charges earlier this month against a 21-year-old and 16-year-old, who face allegations of conspiracy to murder and cause public nuisance by using poisons or explosives.
At the time, sources told the Star, officials believed the 21-year-old had connections to the group of 17 Ontario suspects now in custody.
Of the latest arrests, the BBC reports police are trying to establish whether the four were giving support to the Ontario group, which police allege was plotting a series of attacks in the province.
OT, but here is an update on the DurhaMoslem. I'm looking forward to this trial!
http://www.wilmingtonstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060621/APN/606210673
Two things. First, nowhere in the Toronto Star article does the word "Islam" appear. Apparently, these are just generic, run-of-the-mill terrorists.
Second, I love the second half of this sentence:
"The arrests were part of a British investigation that led to charges earlier this month against a 21-year-old and 16-year-old, who face allegations of conspiracy to murder and cause public nuisance by using poisons or explosives."
Creating a "public nuisance" by using poisons or explosives? I guess mass murder is a "public nuisance." Perhaps the term "public nuisance" has a different meaning in Canada than in the U.S., but to me it conjures up the image of an obnoxious, but harmless, drunk, not a terrorist.
a different meaning in Canada than in the U.S.
The public nuisance charge relates to something earlier this month, and, if I understand the article correctly, the offence was in the UK, not Canada.
Here is the definition of public nuisance from Archbold (2005):
It does seem to be rather wide ranging. Interesting that it includes endangering "morals". Muslims would argue that they are improving our morals by blowing us up, since we are decadent.
SHHHH!! Dont mention the islamic connection in the media, people have to make up their own minds to where all this terrorism stuff is coming from, and they are. The protests of racist persecusion by the hoardes of devildom wont let us down...
Then you have
Administering poison or noxious thing thereby endangering life or inflicting grievous bodily harm, contrary to section 23 Offences Against the Person Act 1861. (Archbold 19-223 to 19-231);
Administering poison or noxious thing with intent to injure, aggrieve or annoy, contrary to section 24 Offences Against the Person Act 1861. (Archbold 19-223 to 19-231);
Causing bodily injury by explosives, contrary to section 28 Offences Against the Person Act 1861. (Archbold 19-232 to 19-240);
Sending, throwing or using explosive or corrosive substance or noxious thing with intent to do grievous bodily harm, contrary to section 29 Offences Against the Person Act 1861. (Archbold 19-232 to 19-240);
Not to mention
The Explosive Substances Act 1883 which creates offences of:
Section 2 - Causing an explosion likely to endanger life or cause serious injury to property;
Section 3(1)(a) - Doing any act with intent to cause, or conspiring to cause, an explosion by means of an explosive substance likely to endanger life;
Section 3(1)(b) - Making, possessing or controlling an explosive substance with intent to cause an explosion likely to endanger life;
Section 4 - Making or possessing explosives under suspicious circumstances.
and
The Explosives Act 1875 which creates offences of:
Section 4 - Unauthorised manufacture of gunpowder and other explosive substance;
Section 5 - Unauthorised possession of gunpowder and other explosive substances;
Section 30 - Selling gunpowder on the highway or in a public place;
Section 31 - Selling gunpowder to children apparently under 16;
Section 80 - Throwing fireworks on the highway or in a public place;
Section 39 of the 1875 Act applies to offences relating to gunpowder to all other explosives.
People forget that anachists were letting bombs off and taking pot shots at Queen Victoria sporadically throughout the 19th century. The principles of criminal law to deal with this are not new, only the scale and technology of the terrorists.
We don't really need new tough sounding legislation, just the will to use what we already have.
or noxious thing
Somebody did a noxious thing on the highway last night, and it wasn't me.