Falls Church Jihad Update from the TimesOnline, with thanks to Sr. Soph:
BRITISH agents are operating in the United States to trace links with Islamic extremists from England who recruit Muslims to fight for terrorist groups abroad.The British-led investigation has played a part in identifying a number of US-based terrorists and helped the authorities in Washington to break up an al-Qaeda cell operating in Falls Church, Virginia.
The agents are particularly keen to discover if the visitors included Mohammad Sidique Khan, leader of the July 7 suicide bombers, who is alleged to have travelled to America’s East Coast to meet fellow militants and stage a series of attacks on synagogues.
Khan was considered such a threat that he was banned from returning to America two years before the attack on London, according to a book written by a US intelligence specialist....
Neither the FBI nor police would comment on the investigations into Khan’s alleged visits to the US in 2002, but, in Falls Church yesterday, residents blamed “foreign agitators” for encouraging young men from the city’s Muslim community to join extremist groups linked to al-Qaeda.
In the Falls Plaza shopping mall, most preferred to chat about their historic city’s latest civic award for its floral displays and not its reputation as the jihad capital of America.
Over the past few months, 11 men who regularly attended the same Islamic Centre in Falls Church have been convicted of terrorism charges. Seven reportedly went to training camps in Pakistan, including one used by Khan.
Their trials exposed a network stretching from this placid commuter belt serving the US capital ten miles away, passing through British cities and on to jihadi camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Does anyone keep a map of each mosque in the world where these "willing slaves of Allah" originated from? These addresses would be useful to authorities and neighborhood watch groups?
David England,
No need for a map. Just look for the minarets in the area.
PROFILE NOW
"In the Falls Plaza shopping mall, most preferred to chat about their historic city’s latest civic award for its floral displays and not its reputation as the jihad capital of America."
Folks at the mall don't want to be known as bigots. But something else is going on.
I've lent the PIG Guide to Islam to two friends and recommended it to another. None have read it, though the first glanced and said it was some right-wing weirdness.
Part of the problem is that folks are busy, and they don't see a need to review an arcane subject. And folks rely on authority figures and advertisements, and the accepted word is that Islam is benign.
What would focus their attention?
Their own death at the hands of a wide eyed suicide bomber saying ALLAH AKBAR??? MAYBe
exsgtbrown: "Their own death at the hands of a wide eyed suicide bomber saying ALLAH AKBAR??? MAYBe"
That already happened to one Falls Church resident who was shot by the DC sniper in the Seven Corners shopping center parking lot. Of course at the time, the connection to Islam wasn't understood.
Locator site. Just plug in your hometown and find the local mosque!
http://www.islamicfinder.org/
They killed the two soldiers.
www.littlegreenfootballs.com highlighted a Guardian article ("amazingly condescending and petty") by Jackie Ashley. The article and its tone strike me as quite important, affirming (in its way) that a smiling and calm presentation is better than intense emotionalism.
Jackie Ashley is particularly amused/bewildered/annoyed that Melanie Phillips (author of Londonistan) perceives (in Phillips's phrase) "a continuum that links peaceful, law-abiding but nevertheless intensely ideological Muslims at one end and murderous jihadists at the other." The article continues: "If you blinked at the word 'continuum', she means it: the British establishment is 'transfixed by the artificial division it has erected between those who actively espouse violence and those who do not.' Yes, artificial division."
http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/politicsphilosophyandsociety/story/0,,1798994,00.html
Hmmmm....11 men who attended the same mosque convicted of terrorism charges.....
Is that mosque still allowed to operate? If so..WHY? HELLOOOO!!! It's not going to stop.
If that isn't a wake up call to close down mosques, I don't know what is.
And I want to know how in our court system, a jury of a terrorist peers can be found. Again, terrorists should be turned over to the military.
Close all mosques!
Falls Church isn't far from CAIR's headquarters in Washington, D.C. Just an observation.
Also, if mosques are being used to spread terrorism, why hasn't their 501(c)tax exempt status been revoked?
They killed the two soldiers. ---arjun.sevak
I knew they would, the minute I read that they were missing. Probably mutilated them, too.
As a British citizen I must offer my sincerest apologies for this infiltration of BritishIslamic terrorists and any resulting compromise of US homeland security. BritishIslam isn't supposed to be like this. BritishIslam is a peaceful religion wholly distinct from any terrorist ideology and I'm sure I can speak for most of my countrymen when I say that I am shocked, apalled, and frankly flabbergasted that anyone espousing the great world religion of BritishIslam should be involved in any way in terrorist activities. I implore all Britons to write to their MPs demanding a full public enquiry, at taxpayers expense, to investigate how the peaceful and benign faith of BritishIslam has been so subverted by a tiny minority of misguided freedom fighters. Hopefully if we throw enough resources at the problem, if we spend enough public money, repeal enough legislation, make enough concessions, and put the MCB in charge of foreign policy, we can avoid such embarassing repetitions in the future. In the meantime I thank you all for your patience, and I think I can also speak for all BritishMoslems in reiterating their unswerving support for the people and constitution of the United States.
At Gates of Vienna they have been exploring several compounds accross the United States which are associated with Jamaat al Fuqra. One of these is located not far from Lynchburg Va. The first of the listings is here. Look for other postings on the left side-bar under "Jamaat al Fuqra".
I have relatives who moved to Falls Church, Virginia in the 1950's. At the time, it was a wonderful town to raise a family. Now, the widow is thoroughly frustrated and fearful of leaving her long time home after 3:00 pm. Believe me, she is not talking about Home and Garden awards, although she still maintains a lovely flower garden herself. She completely understands who is responsible for 9/11 and knows that she lives among people who supported and cheered that act of terroism. For some good information on that area of northern Virginia and jihad activities, you might read the journalist/author Paul Sperry. He has done excellent reporting, although he is probably ignored by the FBI and local police, who are forced to spend their time in sensitivity programs taught by CAIR.
This article reminds me of the article "Jihad in Smalltown America", by Laura Mansfield in which she describes how Jihad is openly preached in mosques within the USA:
http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/smalltownusa.asp
While this article was written quite some time back its significance is just as fresh today as when it was first written. Laura points out how these mosques recruit unsuspecting Christians with their seeming piety and talk of love towards Christ. With her knowldege of Arabic, Laura was able to secretly listen in on the actual view of the folks who were acting so warmly towards the Christians they were trying to ensnare.
What the HELL is going on Northern Virginia!!! Florence King, where are you?
"the DC sniper in the Seven Corners shopping center parking lot. Of course at the time, the connection to Islam wasn't understood."
Most Americans still don't understand it.
Jeff M.
I am sure that the word "compound" you used is entirely accurate.
I live in Oz and nearby are two religious owned blocks of land (actually, they are near to each other as well) comprising - respectively - a school and a place of worship.
One belongs to the seventh day adventists and one to the sons of the false prophet.
No prizes for guessing which one looks like Fort Knox from the street.
americaningermany - sorry, been on bit of a bender. Declared there was no grog but Stella, fell asleep watching al-beeb and woke up a bit confused. I'm feeling better now. Excuse me.
Wow, northern Virginia is in heaps of trouble. It has the jihad capital of America and is a stronghold for MS13.
If they can't contain terror right in DC's backyard, I guess the rest of country is by itself.
"Wow, northern Virginia is in heaps of trouble. It has the jihad capital of America and is a stronghold for MS13."
There is a reason it’s referred to as "Occupied Northern Virginia"
This is why we refer to Virginia as "Virginiastan".
Over the past few months, 11 men who regularly attended the same Islamic Centre in Falls Church have been convicted of terrorism charges. Seven reportedly went to training camps in Pakistan, including one used by Khan.
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How many mos have to be found as violent and terroristic, before full scale profilng begins to determine the good mos from the bad mos??? This will never happen due to the PCness of the federal government.
the accepted word is that Islam is benign.
What would focus their attention?
Posted by: StillBreathing at June 20, 2006 07:20 AM
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It will take wmd's, nukes or bombings in America before America wakes up as it did for Pearl Harbor.....
Virginia is indeed a problem area. But so is Maryland. Basically, if you're living near the nation's capital, you'd better sleep lightly.
How many of you have ever thought while sitting in a movie theater -- now this would be a bad place for a terrorist attack. Well, it's become a reality -- and yet I had to stumble across the story. Of course, in this PC world we live in, nobody in the media is connecting the dots.
http://www.foehammer.net/2006/06/youd-have-to-dig-to-hear-about-this.html
So, let's see -- we have two "reverts" to Islam sniping and murdering innocent people at gas stations around Virginia/Maryland and finally caught, a Muslim student in North Carolina using a van as a weapon with intent to murder and terrorize and commit jihad, we have a Muslim millionaire "randomly" shooting inside a public movie theater after much deliberate planning and we have constant reports of jihad activity in Virginia. Put a compass on a map and draw a big circle around Washington, D.C. and you get the obvious area to concentrate on in the United States for profiling and anti-jihad.
Why are we playing nice with these scum? Outlaw this cult of fascist death-worshippers and save the country a lot of future grief.
Or sit back and watch the incidents turn bloodier, more "random" and closer to home. What's next? Shopping malls? Christmas parades? Attacks on churches and synagogues? A shooting spree at your local high school or perhaps the football or baseball tournaments?
We are a target the size of a barn for these zealots.
God help us.
It will take wmd's, nukes or bombings in America before America wakes up as it did for Pearl Harbor.....posted by Texican
One would think 9/11 would have woke up the country. And I think some did. But every one from the gov. to the media quashed a lot of it to keep people from having the same anger as with Pearl Harbor. I don't remember muslims being rounded up. Bush kept saying islam was a religion of peace.
Had we made the M.E. a parking lot, we wouldn't have the problem with muslims now. IMHO.
and yet I had to stumble across the story.
Here's another I stumbled across this morning -
Suriname Police Break Up Crime Ring ....
Check the name of the "biggie" caught in the raid. Shaheed Khan ..... hmmm. Sure doesn't sound like any South American name I've ever heard of. Not Spanish. Not Portuguese. Not German. HMMMMM. Ya know, maybe that commercial they were running a while back about drugs sponsoring terror was right on the $$$.
There are plenty of things we could do that don't even require a shot fired. The most important I've stated before, but I'll state it again:
Outlaw Islam in the United States of America.
Deport all foreign Muslims. Give ultimatums to Muslim Americans.
Folks, we are at war; the New World War. It's time we started behaving with fire, courage and wisdom and stop this PC madness before we pay in more blood, and worse, the blood of our children.
I would rather offend a couple of million Muslims in American now, than reap the "rewards" of our foolishness a year, 5 years, 10 years from now.
We squashed communists, nazis and the KKK in the U.S., and now it's time for the worst threat of all to be dealt with -- the "religion" using our own laws against us and to protect its hate-mongering behind-closed-doors. Islam does not fool me. Islam does not fool any readers here.
Islam is the Enemy.
And yet Foehammer you don't think the koran should be banned because you don't believe in banning books. There will be more islamists created as long as that book is on the shelf of every public library and school. Look at the converts to islam because the schools require kids to read MalcomX where he glorifies islam, but forgets to mention that he left it and was telling people that muslims would kill him someday if they could.
Those who responded to the queston "What would focus their attention?" answered (in essence), "Suffering." One response suggested that we would have to become a semi-Islamic country before realizing what had happened.
Defeatism. WWDD? (What would Denmark do?)
we have a Muslim millionaire "randomly" shooting inside a public movie theater after much deliberate planning
Did I miss something?
Most of you know that I'm not one to demonize all Muslims willy-nilly, but I have reached the conclusion that the Falls Church Islamic Center needs some consistent surveillance by the FBI, immigration authorities, and others. Its clergy ought to be hauled in for questioning and possibly imprisoned. Many of its people probably also need at least deportation, if not worse.
Maybe the jihadists chose this town because they want to change the name of it.
Mosque Falls instead of Church Falls?
More likely because Falls Church is a hop away from Washington DC and National Airport
OK Foehammer, I see your link now. I guess it's just a coincidence that the shooter has a muslim name and he picked Owings Mills as his target. No link there, right.
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-te.md.theater17jun17,0,4954449.story?page=1&coll=bal-home-headlines
In what police described as a random attack, Paul Schrum, a 62-year-old medical supplies salesman from Pikesville, was shot dead while watching a movie at Loews Valley Center 9 in Owings Mills. About 20 minutes into the film, police said, the gunman stood, told everyone to get on the floor and fired four shots.
The man then walked to the lobby, placed a handgun containing one unspent round on a counter and told theater management that he had shot someone. He waited for police to arrive.
Yesterday, as friends tried to comfort her, Rona Schrum said, "I will probably never understand why God has chosen to do that to me."
The suspect is a 24-year-old man, a 2000 graduate of Mount Hebron High School in Howard County and a 2005 graduate of Loyola College, where he majored in biology. Mujtaba Rabbani Jabbar's family home is a house valued at more than $1 million in one of Baltimore County's most affluent neighborhoods.
According to charging documents, Jabbar told police that he had planned to kill someone for several months.
He has been charged with first-degree murder. He was being held without bail at the county detention center. A search of court records showed nothing more than traffic violations for Jabbar.
Jabbar's address is in Anton North, one of the most exclusive neighborhoods in Baltimore County, with million-dollar mansions hidden by trees and at the end of long, twisting driveways. A list of residents includes such Baltimore business names as Frankel and Luskin, and former Blue Cross/Blue Shield Chief Executive William L. Jews.
Neighbors said they believe the Jabbar family is originally from Texas and owns at least one gas station in the area. They say the family moved into the neighborhood about a year and a half ago, shortly after the house was built.
The house - just under 8,000 square feet, according to tax records - has a circular driveway, wooden double doors, large vertical windows and, in the back, a section that appears to house an indoor pool. The home is valued at $1.6 million
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I would like to note that it is a bit of a misnomer to refer to Falls Church as "small town America" (for readers unfamiliar with the DC area). I wouldn't have called it "small town" even when I lived there briefly 26 years ago (and the whole DC area has grown enormously since then). It's pretty much indistinguishable from the vast metropolis now stretching out around DC.
No - Jihad coming to "small town America" is better illustrated by Jeff M's link above (from Gates of Vienna) about Jamaat al Fuqra setting up camp on the outskirts of small rural towns in Virginia (as opposed to Northern Virginia which is for all practical purposes part of DC). That's a very worrying development.
Borg:
While I might be tempted to ban the Qur'an outright, I think that it is wiser to keep the book on the shelves, but we could reach a compromise on that: make sure that the book has the proper FORWARD, with a complete historical index and plenty of other relevant information that teaches what lies and hate and racism and fascism the Qur'an actually professes.
You see, you can go to any bookstore and find a copy of Mein Kampf, but I don't worry too much about that book creating a new Nazi movement. In fact, the book is in my own collection, along with the Qur'an, the Holy Bible and countless others.
The truth is, if we were to hide the Qur'an, then some underground movement would manifest and use the fact that the book had been banned as just one more excuse to resurrect the evil. Far better to educate people about the Qur'ran: much like alchohol, it's more about how you treat it, then what it really is capable of doing to a person.
What's scary is there's a mosque in my brother's girlfriend's neighborhood like right by her house......
time to bulldoze, just like in Israel...
Jabbar the Nut