Canadian Jihad Update: "Canada terror suspect charges made public," from AP:
BRAMPTON, Ontario - At least one member of a group of terror suspects plotted to storm Canada's parliament and behead officials, including the prime minister, if Muslim prisoners in Canada and Afghanistan were not released, according to charges made public Tuesday.Authorities also alleged that Steven Vikash Chand plotted to take over media outlets such as the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.
"There's an allegation apparently that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada," attorney Gary Batasar said. "It's a very serious allegation. My client has said nothing about that."
Chand is a 25-year-old restaurant worker from Toronto. Charges were expected to be read against at least some of the other suspects Tuesday....
Chand is also known as Abdul Shakur.
Police expect more arrests and intelligence officers are probing possible ties between the Canadian suspects — 12 men and five teenagers — and Islamic terror cells in six nations, including the United States....A Muslim leader who knew the oldest suspect, 43-year-old Qayyum Abdul Jamal, told The Associated Press that his sermons at a local mosque were "filled with hate" against Canada....
But Faheem Bukhari, a director of the Mississauga Muslim Community Center, said Jamal, the oldest suspect, gave hateful, intolerant sermons to young Muslims at a storefront mosque in Mississauga, a city near Toronto where six of the suspects lived.
"These youth were very fun-loving guys, soccer-loving guys, and then all of sudden they were not associating with guys they used to," Bukhari said, referring to the younger suspects.
"People around him knew he was very extreme," Bukhari said, adding that Jamal once told "the audience that the Canadian Forces were going to Afghanistan to rape women."...
Three of them — Fahim Ahmad, 21, Mohammed Dirie, 22, and Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24 — also are charged with importing weapons and ammunition for the purpose of terrorist activity.
Now can we guess what would happen to them if they were in China and had threatened to do this to the Chinese President and leadership over their arrest of Muslim Uighers?
And notice that the Canadian government's recent belligerently anti-American and "liberal" politicans and policies (which may have been reversed by recent elections there, we hope),its friendliness toward Islamic immigration ultimately made NO impression on Canada's Islamic constituency. Gratitude towards non-Muslims (for anything, really)is not a feature of Islam.
It is a safe bet that serious developments (as seen in this article) regarding Islam in Canada will are set to continue.
What I AM particularly leery of is a coup d'etat perpetrated in canada by the Muslim population there. However far-fetched that sounds, remember that once upon a time it would have been considered 'far-fetched' for Muslims to hijack commercial jetliners and crash them into syscrapers in US cities and kill thousands of people in the process. Yet of course it happened.
Fellow Canadians, you've been warned. Danger lies ahead.
What really happens when Mahmound hangs up the phone after to speaking to D.C....Mahmound goes to the well of the Mahdi and falls on his face.......Thank you Oh Mahdi for giving me the power to fool the Americans....Soon we will blow the world to hell and you will come back!....
"These youth were very fun-loving guys, soccer-loving guys, and then all of sudden they were not associating with guys they used to," Bukhari said, referring to the younger suspects.
Hmm...and why is the press not jumping all over this obvious pattern from one of these incidents to the other? It's as obvious as a full moon over Lake Ontario, but nope, we can't draw any conclusions and we're still looking for common threads....
GIVE ME A BREAK!
When Islam is taught to its truest and fullest extent, zealous jihadis are "suddenly" birthed by the educating mullahs. Yes, they're always such "nice boys" until they start beheading members of Parliament! I suppose if such "nice boys" succeed in nuking a football stadium, we'll be talking about how underprivaleged they've all been. We'll point fingers at ourselves for being to blame.
Rinse and repeat until Western Civilization is no more...(?)
Just amazes me that these yahoos set up their mosques to preach hate in host countries and yet it's illegal to bring a Bible into Islamic countries....The next 9-11 will bring a backlash these animals will understand.
Find your closest hate filled mosque near your neighborhood at islamicfinder.org and reign in the rifle sights....
From little green footballs.......BRAMPTON, Ontario (Reuters) - One of 17 men accused of plotting bombings in major Canadian cities and of training militants also faces an allegation that he sought to behead Prime Minister Stephen Harper, his lawyer said on Tuesday.
Steven Chand, 25, was among 15 members of the alleged terrorist ring who appeared in a heavily guarded courtroom north of Toronto to set dates for bail hearings. The Muslim men, five of them under the age of 18, were arrested on Friday in Canada’s largest counterterrorism operation, and police said more arrests are possible.
Chand’s lawyer, Gary Batasar, said his client faced several serious charges and was concerned that intense media interest in the details of the case in Canada and the United States could jeopardize Chand’s chances of a fair trial.
Allegations include plans for the “storming and bombing of various buildings,” Batasar told reporters. “There’s an allegation apparently that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada,” Batasar said. “It’s a very serious allegation — he’s said nothing about that. My client retains the right to silence.”
Members of the group are alleged to have considered plans to take hostages and to attack Canada’s parliament in Ottawa, the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. building in Toronto and power grids, according to a synopsis of charges Batasar said he saw.
what mosque (Muslims) went to or what imam they liked to listen to,” Khan said.....( Once again Americans are told we have no one we can depend on.....The twilight Zone is now 24/7...no Sanity breaks.....The whole world has become one giant rubber room full of drooling inmates from hell!....Decency is gone....Sanity is history...the inmates rule the yard.....Where do we go from here?...Story after Story of insanity.....How can you fight if you have no allies?.... I am just fed up...where the hell are the good guys?
My post to this......
that didnt come out right
Foehammer said
"Officials stated that most of those arrested were right-handed, a few were left-handed, and one was ambidexterous. 'It just doesn't make sense. There doesn't seem to be any sort of discernable pattern. Nothing seems to tie these suspects together', stated the lead investigator as he sat on a stack of confiscated Qur'ans."
"BRAMPTON, Ontario - At least one member of a group of terror suspects plotted to storm Canada's parliament and behead officials, including the prime minister.."
Sighs....why don't they just write a letter of protest to a newspaper or organise a petition or something. Why is it always beheading or blowing up?
when l went to work this am, co-workers who are usually neutral on these matters, all told me their husband want them executed pronto and or shark food as they are dropped over the ocean. yeap give these monsters enough rope, and the rest of us wake up!
l missed apoint.. lol.. "their husbands want the muslims excuted after their trials..
Storemanager:
Actually, you post does make sense. We all are feeling frustrated at the state of the world today...which is nothing short of appalling (and appalling is an understatement!).
The dismal scenario across the world is the result of thousands of years of failed human evolution and thus very little of it is America's fault (we actually had the cojones to try to fix things). But, for the time being there is not much we can do about all this either, unfortunately. Thousands of years of negative social evolutionary patterns can't be reversed overnight however desirable this would be.
But you are correct on one point: that is the lunatics are running the asylum worldwide. Look at the likes of Hugo Chavez, the Iranian mullahs, Vladimir Putrid, China, or even Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder.
The tragic spectacle we are witnessing today is that the human species for the most part never evolved to the point where human life was given respect and seen as possessing intrinsic value. People all over the world are brainwashed into believing this or that chosen ideology has more value than human life and as a result violence is now being wired into societies everywhere along with a corresponding ideological bias(usually in what passes for schools). Islam is one classic example of such negative development in man. Communism is another (it is hiding today under the euphemism "socialism"). The EU looks like it is going to fall into the same trap. It talks like its playing an ethical game, but it seems to hold power a little to dear to back ethical policies with any real substance and if anything it will continue kowtowing to powerful nuthouse ideologies distressingly common in Europe such as Communism, Islam, Nazism,anti-Americanism, and fascism.
Without any basic respect for human life most of humanity has mostly been unble to construct any type of ethical compass. All one has to do is read the ugly, brutal and sadistic histories of Islam or Communism to see what has gone wrong. Look at the sadistic oratories flying out of the trap of the likes of Hugo Chavez. Listen to this mega-thug and one might come away the belief that murdering three hundred million Americans will solve EVERYTHING!!! With islam, it's the Jews who must be the recipients of first-degree murder to solve the world's problems.
America is strong enough to reverse much of this, but in the 1950s when France changed its mind and decided to abandon civilization and incubate Islam and Communist ideologies and undermine America's global power, the world order started to crumble. And the world order is still falling with increasing velocity. Even worse, America's former allies have mostly shown they are now much too cowardly to do anything about it other than give in to enemies of democracy (like the mullahs of Iran and Communism). And the tragedy here is that the humane, representational type of government the west has struggled to cultivate for centuries may go extinct and in its place will emerge barbaric, totalitarian states--but isn't this already what passes for governments in Islamic and other Third World nations (especially now in Latin America). The wave of the future??? No thanks. (God help us).
It is not yet clear what the course to save civilization is. It is also clear that whatever it will be, it almost certainly won't come out of France, the EU, or Latin America.
Funny I want to do that everytime I here that islam is the religion of peace. Of course I am joking.
Frankly speaking, not a few heads will have to roll before the West wakes from its pleasant Orientalist nap.
Berosus mentions our father Abram without naming him, when he says thus: "In the tenth generation after the Flood, there was among the Chaldeans a man righteous and great, and skillful in the celestial science." But Hecatseus does more than barely mention him; for he composed, and left behind him, a book concerning him. And Nicolaus of Damascus, in the fourth book of his History, says thus: "Abram reigned at Damascus, being a foreigner, who came with an army out of the land above Babylon, called the land of the Chaldeans: but, after a long time, he got him up, and removed from that country also, with his people, and went into the land then called the land of Canaan, but now the land of Judea, and this when his posterity were become a multitude; as to which posterity of his, we relate their history in another work. Now the name of Abram is even still famous in the country of Damascus; and there is shown a village named from him, The Habitation of Abram." ( Long before mohammad the world had Josephus and before him the world had Moses) Have mercy...all this killing for a man-who came long after!
Circus Canadiana, a mere hour from where i sit and type. You know, this whole thing...the past five years (of course, exceeding this, but since the tipping point 9/11)...forest for the trees for too many afraid to acknowledge their instincts and history, blind with eyes. But I stand by my opinion that, given time, and more pushing, we in the west will resurrect our spirit. We are just bewildered by it. It's like something from a movie, but all too horribly real...surreal at times.
These culties...because that's what they are. Forget about the fact it's been here for 1400 years. Forget the (inflated) global numbers. This is a cult of robotics, catering to brain dead masses who repeat and regurgitate ad nauseum.
Oh, and they are such fricking attention whores. As much as you can be assured that the little shrimp in charge of North Korea got off on his inclusion in that South Park movie, being the renowned movie buff that he is, you can be assured these shells of humanity are enjoying every infidel camera lense being pointed their way.
I'm here, yes, taking in another sorry tale of muslim aggro and woe, but truly am becoming so very sick of there being nothing else to speak of on the planet. Muslims. Islam. Beheading. Slavery. Genocide. Rape. Mutilation. Totalitarianism. Islam...Islam...
Look at how they hold the Koran out like a little shield...a buffer from reality.
I wish these kids had succeeded. Not that I don't like Prime Minister Harper, but having some islamic hotheads behead the "head" of the country, would send a message to dhimmi Canada that jihadwatch.com could never send in a thousand years of typing and posting. What a coup for the anti-jihad movement for such an attack to have succeeded.
Anyway, I'm sure there are many more young islamic men in canada looking to take up the torch. It won't be long before one group makes it through undetected. Then things will start to happen. Hopefully.
BTW, with how slack the security is in Ottawa, I don't think they would have had any trouble beheading the prime minister. Remember when that intruder snuck in to the prime minister's bedroom one evening? His wife had to fend him off with an inuit stone carving. That is canadian prime minister security at its best. Incidentally, I'd pay a week's salary to see Sheila Copps beheaded.
Will Canada remain a US ally? The risk of bombs
going off in the Toronto subway may make Canadian
leaders think twice before supporting the US in
the war against Islam.
At least one member of a group of terror suspects plotted to storm Canada's parliament and behead officials, including the prime minister, if Muslim prisoners in Canada and Afghanistan were not released, according to charges made public Tuesday
Okay, so what's the problem?
Sounds like the Canadians are being less than sensitive about this issue.
Is it not the free exercise of the islam that they are objecting to here?
After all, beheading is the mandate of mohammad, is it not?
Have I misread to koran? Have I?? Then please enlighten me as to my various errata on the matter.
Or is Canadian bigotry and racism what's at issue here???
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Like zombies but instead of brains they need heads. "I need heads"! will live forever...some cheap knockoff movie studio could make some really bad horror movies. You know the ones where the the teenagers drive into the wrong woods but in this case it could be parts of Toronto, New York or any odd western city with a muslim community. Little stupid blonde Jill gets out of the car and tells Jack this might not be the place to make out. Thats when the knife crazed muslims appear and heads start rolling....
No doubt the muslims would protest but not becuase they will be betrayed wacking non-muslims but becuase something stupid like the Koran being disrespected or some other trival matter like praying the wrong direction etc.
Cool instead of a Full Moon its a Crescent Moon!
Instead of a wolf howling its a crazed muslim yelling is his love of allah.....you better run!
I hate to have to agree with "somethingaboutislam"'s post, but I, too, wish they had suceeded, at least in part. I truly believe that no matter how heinous the plotted action, no matter how detailed its plans, most of the West (including the media) simply do not care about the many terrorist acts that are stymied. Look at 7/7 in Britain, even--that did succeed, but "only" about 50 people were killed, far fewer than the numbers the terrorists had hoped for. What has anyone in Britain done since then to seriously tackle terrorism? How many extemist mullahs have been deported? Zero. 7/7 was followed a few months later by Muslims in the anti-cartoon protests holding placards saying "Britain, you will pay--another 7/7 is on its way." Still, no serious actions have been taken. Many Canadians may be angry now, but since the attacks were foiled, I predict they will forget this incident quite quickly. I'm afraid another attack causing carnage on the scale of 9/11, or close to it, *outside of the United States*, is the only thing that (possibly) may wake people from their stupor.
kaffirchick writes: "I'm afraid another attack causing carnage on the scale of 9/11, or close to it, outside of the United States, is the only thing that (possibly) may wake people from their stupor."
We have a benchmark: The Madrid train bombings did not awaken the Spaniards as to the Islamist terrorist threat. Instead, it had the opposite effect: It scared them so much that they decided that it was too costly to stand with the U.S. anymore. And so they elected Zapatero who broke with the U.S.--not just on Iraq, but on the whole notion of using military force against terrorists. The confused and hesitant way Aznar tried to deal with the train bombings helped contribute to that.
The missing ingredient in all this has been leadership--a charismatic, eloquent, inspiring leader, on the scale of a Franklin Roosevelt, a Winston Churchill, a Ronald Reagan--someone who will level with the people in the attacked country, tell them the truth about the Islamist threat and call them to arms. As in the prelude to World War II and in the Cold War, such men are not listened to at first--they are ridiculed and even vilified. As ex-Senator Bill Bradley once said, "Leadership involves telling the people what they do not want to hear." But if they persist, events eventually catch up with them and they are ready to lead.
Such potential leadership is rare. Here in America, Bush's inarticulate way of speaking has become a national joke. The only two men who seem promising to me are John McCain (possibly), and Arnold Schwarzenegger (who is Constitutionally prevented from running for President at this time). That's about it. I can't picture Hillary Clinton calling America to arms in a way that Roosevelt or Reagan could. And I see no such potential leaders on the horizon in Britain, or France, at all.
Steven, the benchmark is 9/11. 3000 dead and no anti-islam leader emerged. People thought that Bush was going to be that leader. Turns out he was just another clueless politician. Yes, he enjoyed the spotlight on 9/12 with the bullhorn on the pile, and talk about Dead or Alive, but that was just typical political showmanship.
I never felt Bush was a leader. He didn't have the intellect to be a leader. All great leaders have powerful intellects. This guy has the intellect of a college freshman. With a C average. Kerry, on the otherhand, had little intellect either, - liberals usually don't - they have talking points. The difference with Kerry or Hilliary, however, is that they can express those talking points in grammatically correct sentences.
Each country will be different.
As much as I hoped the lesson of 9/11 was universal and permanent -- even that failed to pursuade. Perhaps it's the only way. I don't know. But each country's character will be grievously challenged by the probable coming horrors, not just the ones the Muslims inflict on us, but those we'll inflict on them before it's over.
Spain? Failed. (the optimist would say "so far...")
Russia? Failed. Probably will continue with their neo-Stalinist silliness and re-start the genital stuffing techniques that at least made the Jihadis sweat. Salvageable? Who knows. Who cares, as long as she doen't cause us too much harm in her own special way.
England? Waking up. I am confidenct, even with the wide and deep insurrection in her domain. Our friends the Brits may still have their finest hours ahead of them.
France. Whore of Babylon. Not worth discussing. KOed eventually after some spasms.
Germany? We'll see.
Holland? Fail.
Denmark -- Gold star! The Danes are gonna will be OK as long as the EU is murdered in its sleep.
Canada? Canada will be OK but they've got some serious ground to cover.
USA -- Still waking up. I wouldn't bet against US! Nevertheless, not a slam dunk by a long shot. We have a lot of ground to cover.
Australia -- Gold star. They're Great! Also, GREAT food. Like to have fun. I love Australians.
The only two men who seem promising to me are John McCain (possibly), and Arnold Schwarzenegger
Posted by Steven L
Steven, for God's sake, do some serious research into McCain's background, voting record, and his overall demeanor and ideology. McCain is as dangerous as Ted Kennedy, his bosom buddy and co-author of several disgraceful bills. His campaign reform bill is a fiasco, a blatant insult and violation of the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Newt Gingrich is not perfect and I don't agree with everything he says but he understands Islam; he respects the American Constitution; and he is not an open borders multiculturalist like McCain. John McCain is no more a conservative than George Bush. He scares the hell out of me and I find his elitist, superior attitude repulsive. I'm sorry he suffered as a POW in Viet Nam but I believe maybe some of the commie indoctrination may have hit the mark while he was a prisoner. John McCain is dangerous; look at the immigration reform debacle he played a major role in producing. His own state is under seige by illegal immigrants yet he is more concerned about them than the people who elected him. Too bad he'll be in the Senate for four more years; God only knows how much more damage he and Teddy will do before his term ends or he runs for president.
Arnold is married to a Kennedy. His options are limited and he's not a social conservative anyway. Gingrich is the best hope out there.
"Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and don't do it, that's trustworthiness." —George W. Bush, in a CNN online chat, Aug. 30, 2000
For those interested in knowing just how illiterate the president is, and just how funny it can be, check out this link. Regardless of your politics, you will be laughing your head off for hours. There are hundreds of "Bushisms" to peruse.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms2000.htm
Check the other links on the page for other years.
Or his top 100 of all time:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushdumbquotes.htm
I hate the Muslim savages as much as anyone (possibly more..) but at least this time they threatened the right people.
Perhaps it will change the minds of Canadian pols and government officials when they are the ones on the top of the beheaders list instead of ordinary Canadians.
Since the pols and the government are the ones who inflicted Islamic immigration on the country in the first place, its only right that they should be the ones to pay the price.
Seriously, what did moronic Western politicians imagine would happen when they flooded our countries with hordes of uncivilised people who are so far down the evolutionary scale that they marry their first cousins and still dont comprehend that the male is responsible for the sex of a child..
The Western 'elites' should pay for their treachery by being the first targets. Sounds fair to me.
Guys
I am from India, Yesterday in the news, The mulim patriots of India wants a ban on th 100 yeard old National Song.
I am really very hurt at their demand, how can they be so rude...I know that muslims are the worst people to live along with but from what does they get this rude and unyeilding behaviour to ask for a ban on everythig and anythign that they dont like that to in a country where they are a minority.....
I guess when they breed well to even 30 to 40% I can see the temples being blown up frequently...
The World heritage site of AJanta and Ellora were recently saved by cracking a plot to blow them up...
This morning in the great state of Texas, I heard a national female talk show host tie all of the threads together and name terror for what terror is:
Islamic Jihad
and
Muslim Jihad
It is not terror it is Muslim Jihad. The truth is spreading.
Muslims refuse to clean up their religion. The war with Islam is inevitable.
Prepare, be armed, be ready.
The Texican,
Freedom, the only choice at any cost and the cost will be immense.
It's all the Canadian's fault, for being lackies of the Bushco empire, they provoked those poor kids, those fascist jack booted Mounties, boo hoo, I'm going to Canada and protest!
To: Varma
Muslims don't like anything not related to MO...
even cheetah kittens!
I once on TV saw this arab muslim sudanese exporter (exporting god know what) in Africa (cannot remember the country) who had two live cheetah kittens. He tied them up and made them fight each other for money. One of them lost an eye etc. The story ended with U.S. Army observers saving the kittens but the funny part was when they explained it to this arab muslim that it is illegal to have cheetah kittens he got angry and tried to hit kittens with a stick stating that "see see they like to fight".
Point it nothing is sacred...not even kittens.
One of the Muslim members of Parliament was asked about these militant groups and if the radical Imam should be banned from visiting canada to preach the hatred.
Not only did she avoid the question on banning visiting radical islamists, but her answer to solve the problem was to have Islam taught in the Public schools to counter the Islamophobia from the people who hijacked islam and give it a bad image.
These are the same Muslims that worked hard to ban other faiths from the public schools and killed the Christmas plays and Easter references, now they want Islam to be an official State sanctioned indoctrine in the public schools just because 1% of the population can't police theirown religious temples.
I will say this about our gutless Politicians, while the Police averted a massive slaughter of civilians in a business area of Toronto, these weasels now focus on security at the Parliamentary buildings.
So when the taxpayers tried to tell them we were at risk by Islamist we were labelled Racists, but now that they're necks are on the line NOW it's a serious threat.
Nice to see they were willing to take the terror risks with my life over the las 10 years.
9/11 didn't produce a clear-sighted leader vis-a-vis Islam, in part because the West has been so hugely ignorant of what Islam is. Muslims represent a small minority in the U.S., and a mostly segregated, if larger, minority in Europe. So most people in the West have not preceived any need to know anything about Islam.
But 9/11 became the starting point for a massive education and self-education project, which seems slowly to be coming to fruition. Andrew Bostom only started studying Islam after 9/11. And Jihad Watch has only been online educating people since October 2003, though Robert's books have been coming out since well before that date. Numerous other websites critical of Jihad and Islam have only been around for a few years. And in the last few years the number and popularity of critical books seems to have increased quite a bit, with no end in sight. A class of Western resistance teachers is starting to graduate from apprentice level to a degree of expertise, and exerting increasing sway over public opinion and public policy. Leaders like Hirsi Ali are being listened to: she is going to work at the American Enterprise Institute, a premier conservative D.C. think tank with very strong influence on the Washington political establishment. Robert recently consulted at the United States Central Command in Tampa, and his latest book, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades was a New York Times bestseller.
I think new hope about the situation is also justified when a mainstream conservative website like National Review Online posts, as they did today, an article complaining mordantly about the failure of the New York Times to link Islam with violence.
Public reaction to the next attack will be far better informed, I think, than the reaction to 9/11. Criticism of Islam will emerge as an even more mainstream force than it currently is.
I cant speak for America, Canada or India, but from my observations in Malaysia:
1. On Independence, the muslim ruling party said this is a secular country & islam is the official religion where only 30% or less are muslims. Eveyone has equal share etc.
2. Then they came up with malay rights where malay muslims (majority muslims are malays) enjoy benefit that non-muslims cant question, on questioning, they will be sent to jail without trial (Read ISA) for being a threat.
3. Then when the non muslims won the election in the capital of Malaysia in May, 1969, the malays started a religion riot & killed around 1600 people. NO ONE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED. Eye witness claimed that the mosques were inciting hatred & commading that every muslim must take arms and kill the chinese. May 13, 1969.
4. The Capital became a Country owned Area, meaning, the goverment only would control the place. While the state capital moved to Shah Alam.
5. Over 200 temples were demolished within the next 30 years & they are continuing to do it. The latest that I knew was when 300 hindu worshipers were pulled out of the temple & was demolished. The official status of a hindu temple is Immigrant Houses/Buildings. It is normally not stated in the state development map.
6. Declared that Malaysia is a Islamic country. Muslims youth leader raised a keris (short dagger) & threaterned non malays indirectly.
7. Non Muslims must be trankful to the Malays/muslims for being able to stay & granted a place to study (basic education). Non Muslims dont have the right to question about islam or write about islam or muslim's rights.
8. Non muslims are excluded from Shariah court. Only Muslims are subjected to shahriah rulings. In which, it protects them in case of any dispute with non muslims. In such a case, a High Court decided not to intefere with the ruling of a lower shahriah court.
9. Only Islamic religios classes are permitted in public schools, other religous classes must be done privately.
So guys, the modus operandi is simple.
1. When they are small in numbers, they behave nicely, collaborate properlly. But in fact they are planing & lying to us.
2. They take steps to strengten themselves with laws, wealth & politically.
3. Once they are ready, they will show their true colors by eliminating non muslims, via the culture, place of worship & even history.
Even Its not too bad in my country, it will soon get worse & many muslims are smart enough to see the political connection with religion but they are tied by this & they cant act as well. I have good muslims friends that share the same sentiments that I do.
The bottom line is we cant expect muslims to govern muslims because every muslim is right their way & the extremist will always prevail.
Things must be done & it must be done now. The more we wait, the more our children will suffer.
Yesterday a friend of mine introduced me to a man who home is near a mosque. The mosque came up recently with saudi money. This guy reminded me of Texican. He had a gun in each room, complete with boxes of ammo. He was so paranoid he had a gun fitted on the underside of his bed with clamps. I was amused at first, then I heard the mullah wailing allahu akbar, and I realized this guy has to listen to it 5 times a day. He may be paranoid, but Only The Paranoid Survive. Maybe this is what it is all leading up to. Gotta get somebody to fit those clamps.
"Find your closest hate filled mosque near your neighborhood at islamicfinder.org and reign in the rifle sights...."
Siciliano, this is the kind of comment that people use to discredit our whole concerns and philosophy. Don't you see that you're playing into their hands?
I do believe that many muslims are victims of islamism too. Remember that apostasy is punishable by death: they have no escape.
pythagoras sez:
"The lunatics are running the asylum..."
Indeed they do! In the EU as well as in America. And isn't it strange and peculiar how -especially the far left, - glorifies Fidel, Chavez, Che Guevara, short: They admire just about any dictator, the more totalitarian the better...!?
Somehow, I'm not above 'Schadenfreude':
One almost wishes the Mohammedan infil-traitors had succeeded in Canada and in England. Sooner or later they will, and unless they hit us in a big way, we will not retaliate and do what is necessary to preserve our way of life and secure the future of our children.
The way things are going one must fear that even if we get hit, the PC-creeps and spineless polit-clowns we call government will still not do what's necessary and intern and deport the "ummah", but will continue making concessions and lead us down the road of appeasement which will result in the inevitable Islamic conquest and the loss of our freedom....
tjwork - Thanks for your post. Bookmarked. I had no idea because of course the liberal/multicultalist media in USA keeps genocide like this on the down low. Plus I'm new here..maybe it's been posted before just had'nt seen it.:) China refuses to help you guys from this plauge?
"I do believe that many muslims are victims of islamism too. Remember that apostasy is punishable by death: they have no escape." ~ Lili
What rubbish. muslims, just like the rest of us Infidels, are victims of islam. Please provide a working theory for me separating islamism from islam. Or do you not yet grasp the fact that islam, as glorified in the koran, is the cancer, the threat to our Western bodies politic?
Allow me to correct my statement:
3. Then when the non muslims won the election in the capital of Malaysia in May, 1969, the malays started a religion riot & killed around 1600 people. NO ONE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED. Eye witness claimed that the mosques were inciting hatred & commading that every muslim must take arms and kill the chinese. May 13, 1969.
to:
- The riot ended with ~1600 unofficial deaths both sides. Many young chinese ladies/girls were raped.
- The first kill was 2 chinese passer-bys riding a motorbike by the raging malay mob.
- Official death count by goverment was less than 200. I guess many deathhs unaccounted for were caused by the injury or just not reported, this is back in 1969, people do to the traditional doctor rather than a hospital.
Thanks & apologize for any misconceptions.
Thanks for the post tjwork. Mr. Fitzgerald has written extensively about the Bumiputra sytem, and, I believe, he's mentioned some of the chronology you refer to.
It's best for everyone to know that it basically starts with small, harmless seeming numbers of Muslims. Then the demands start. Then as they gain wealth and positions, they might begin to terrorize the locals into granting more rights and privileges.
What we're seeing in Canada, France, Germany, Spain, and the US is nothing new. It is Islam's ancient pattern, repeated millions of time throughout history.
Through our decency, our kindness, and our generosity, we have allowed snakes into our midst. Should we really be surprised when the snakes behave like snakes?
We should first become aware of our mistake. Then we must feel ashamed enough to change our behavior, but not ashamed enough to allow the snake to continue biting us. The snake must be taken outside.
Then a decision must be made. If the snake still poses a threat, it must be killed. If not, taking it back to some wilderness far away from our home might be sufficient. That is, as long as it can't make it's way back to our home to start biting us again.
June 06, 2006
Canada jihadists planned to storm Parliament, behead officials
Canadian Jihad Update: "Canada terror suspect charges made public," from AP:
BRAMPTON, Ontario - At least one member of a group of terror suspects plotted to storm Canada's parliament and behead officials, including the prime minister, if Muslim prisoners in Canada and Afghanistan were not released, according to charges made public Tuesday.
Authorities also alleged that Steven Vikash Chand plotted to take over media outlets such as the Canadian Broadcasting Corp.
"There's an allegation apparently that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada," attorney Gary Batasar said. "It's a very serious allegation. My client has said nothing about that."
Chand is a 25-year-old restaurant worker from Toronto. Charges were expected to be read against at least some of the other suspects Tuesday....
Chand is also known as Abdul Shakur.
Police expect more arrests and intelligence officers are probing possible ties between the Canadian suspects — 12 men and five teenagers — and Islamic terror cells in six nations, including the United States....
A Muslim leader who knew the oldest suspect, 43-year-old Qayyum Abdul Jamal, told The Associated Press that his sermons at a local mosque were "filled with hate" against Canada....
But Faheem Bukhari, a director of the Mississauga Muslim Community Center, said Jamal, the oldest suspect, gave hateful, intolerant sermons to young Muslims at a storefront mosque in Mississauga, a city near Toronto where six of the suspects lived.
"These youth were very fun-loving guys, soccer-loving guys, and then all of sudden they were not associating with guys they used to," Bukhari said, referring to the younger suspects.
"People around him knew he was very extreme," Bukhari said, adding that Jamal once told "the audience that the Canadian Forces were going to Afghanistan to rape women."...
Three of them — Fahim Ahmad, 21, Mohammed Dirie, 22, and Yasim Abdi Mohamed, 24 — also are charged with importing weapons and ammunition for the purpose of terrorist activity.
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Now can we guess what would happen to them if they were in China and had threatened to do this to the Chinese President and leadership over their arrest of Muslim Uighers?
Posted by: Spirit Of 1683 at June 6, 2006 04:30 PM
And notice that the Canadian government's recent belligerently anti-American and "liberal" politicans and policies (which may have been reversed by recent elections there, we hope),its friendliness toward Islamic immigration ultimately made NO impression on Canada's Islamic constituency. Gratitude towards non-Muslims (for anything, really)is not a feature of Islam.
It is a safe bet that serious developments (as seen in this article) regarding Islam in Canada will are set to continue.
What I AM particularly leery of is a coup d'etat perpetrated in canada by the Muslim population there. However far-fetched that sounds, remember that once upon a time it would have been considered 'far-fetched' for Muslims to hijack commercial jetliners and crash them into syscrapers in US cities and kill thousands of people in the process. Yet of course it happened.
Fellow Canadians, you've been warned. Danger lies ahead.
Posted by: pythagoras at June 6, 2006 04:40 PM
What really happens when Mahmound hangs up the phone after to speaking to D.C....Mahmound goes to the well of the Mahdi and falls on his face.......Thank you Oh Mahdi for giving me the power to fool the Americans....Soon we will blow the world to hell and you will come back!....
Posted by: storagemanager at June 6, 2006 04:43 PM
"These youth were very fun-loving guys, soccer-loving guys, and then all of sudden they were not associating with guys they used to," Bukhari said, referring to the younger suspects.
Hmm...and why is the press not jumping all over this obvious pattern from one of these incidents to the other? It's as obvious as a full moon over Lake Ontario, but nope, we can't draw any conclusions and we're still looking for common threads....
GIVE ME A BREAK!
When Islam is taught to its truest and fullest extent, zealous jihadis are "suddenly" birthed by the educating mullahs. Yes, they're always such "nice boys" until they start beheading members of Parliament! I suppose if such "nice boys" succeed in nuking a football stadium, we'll be talking about how underprivaleged they've all been. We'll point fingers at ourselves for being to blame.
Rinse and repeat until Western Civilization is no more...(?)
Posted by: Foehammer at June 6, 2006 05:03 PM
Just amazes me that these yahoos set up their mosques to preach hate in host countries and yet it's illegal to bring a Bible into Islamic countries....The next 9-11 will bring a backlash these animals will understand.
Find your closest hate filled mosque near your neighborhood at islamicfinder.org and reign in the rifle sights....
Posted by: Siciliano at June 6, 2006 05:05 PM
From little green footballs.......BRAMPTON, Ontario (Reuters) - One of 17 men accused of plotting bombings in major Canadian cities and of training militants also faces an allegation that he sought to behead Prime Minister Stephen Harper, his lawyer said on Tuesday.
Steven Chand, 25, was among 15 members of the alleged terrorist ring who appeared in a heavily guarded courtroom north of Toronto to set dates for bail hearings. The Muslim men, five of them under the age of 18, were arrested on Friday in Canada’s largest counterterrorism operation, and police said more arrests are possible.
Chand’s lawyer, Gary Batasar, said his client faced several serious charges and was concerned that intense media interest in the details of the case in Canada and the United States could jeopardize Chand’s chances of a fair trial.
Allegations include plans for the “storming and bombing of various buildings,” Batasar told reporters. “There’s an allegation apparently that my client personally indicated that he wanted to behead the prime minister of Canada,” Batasar said. “It’s a very serious allegation — he’s said nothing about that. My client retains the right to silence.”
Members of the group are alleged to have considered plans to take hostages and to attack Canada’s parliament in Ottawa, the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. building in Toronto and power grids, according to a synopsis of charges Batasar said he saw.
what mosque (Muslims) went to or what imam they liked to listen to,” Khan said.....( Once again Americans are told we have no one we can depend on.....The twilight Zone is now 24/7...no Sanity breaks.....The whole world has become one giant rubber room full of drooling inmates from hell!....Decency is gone....Sanity is history...the inmates rule the yard.....Where do we go from here?...Story after Story of insanity.....How can you fight if you have no allies?.... I am just fed up...where the hell are the good guys?
My post to this......
Posted by: storagemanager at June 6, 2006 05:14 PM
that didnt come out right
Posted by: storagemanager at June 6, 2006 05:15 PM
Foehammer said
we can't draw any conclusions and we're still looking for common threads....
"Officials stated that most of those arrested were right-handed, a few were left-handed, and one was ambidexterous. 'It just doesn't make sense. There doesn't seem to be any sort of discernable pattern. Nothing seems to tie these suspects together', stated the lead investigator as he sat on a stack of confiscated Qur'ans."
Posted by: special_guest at June 6, 2006 05:36 PM
"BRAMPTON, Ontario - At least one member of a group of terror suspects plotted to storm Canada's parliament and behead officials, including the prime minister.."
Sighs....why don't they just write a letter of protest to a newspaper or organise a petition or something. Why is it always beheading or blowing up?
Posted by: Celsius at June 6, 2006 05:52 PM
when l went to work this am, co-workers who are usually neutral on these matters, all told me their husband want them executed pronto and or shark food as they are dropped over the ocean. yeap give these monsters enough rope, and the rest of us wake up!
Posted by: Lulu at June 6, 2006 05:59 PM
l missed apoint.. lol.. "their husbands want the muslims excuted after their trials..
Posted by: Lulu at June 6, 2006 06:00 PM
Storemanager:
Actually, you post does make sense. We all are feeling frustrated at the state of the world today...which is nothing short of appalling (and appalling is an understatement!).
The dismal scenario across the world is the result of thousands of years of failed human evolution and thus very little of it is America's fault (we actually had the cojones to try to fix things). But, for the time being there is not much we can do about all this either, unfortunately. Thousands of years of negative social evolutionary patterns can't be reversed overnight however desirable this would be.
But you are correct on one point: that is the lunatics are running the asylum worldwide. Look at the likes of Hugo Chavez, the Iranian mullahs, Vladimir Putrid, China, or even Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder.
The tragic spectacle we are witnessing today is that the human species for the most part never evolved to the point where human life was given respect and seen as possessing intrinsic value. People all over the world are brainwashed into believing this or that chosen ideology has more value than human life and as a result violence is now being wired into societies everywhere along with a corresponding ideological bias(usually in what passes for schools). Islam is one classic example of such negative development in man. Communism is another (it is hiding today under the euphemism "socialism"). The EU looks like it is going to fall into the same trap. It talks like its playing an ethical game, but it seems to hold power a little to dear to back ethical policies with any real substance and if anything it will continue kowtowing to powerful nuthouse ideologies distressingly common in Europe such as Communism, Islam, Nazism,anti-Americanism, and fascism.
Without any basic respect for human life most of humanity has mostly been unble to construct any type of ethical compass. All one has to do is read the ugly, brutal and sadistic histories of Islam or Communism to see what has gone wrong. Look at the sadistic oratories flying out of the trap of the likes of Hugo Chavez. Listen to this mega-thug and one might come away the belief that murdering three hundred million Americans will solve EVERYTHING!!! With islam, it's the Jews who must be the recipients of first-degree murder to solve the world's problems.
America is strong enough to reverse much of this, but in the 1950s when France changed its mind and decided to abandon civilization and incubate Islam and Communist ideologies and undermine America's global power, the world order started to crumble. And the world order is still falling with increasing velocity. Even worse, America's former allies have mostly shown they are now much too cowardly to do anything about it other than give in to enemies of democracy (like the mullahs of Iran and Communism). And the tragedy here is that the humane, representational type of government the west has struggled to cultivate for centuries may go extinct and in its place will emerge barbaric, totalitarian states--but isn't this already what passes for governments in Islamic and other Third World nations (especially now in Latin America). The wave of the future??? No thanks. (God help us).
It is not yet clear what the course to save civilization is. It is also clear that whatever it will be, it almost certainly won't come out of France, the EU, or Latin America.
Posted by: pythagoras at June 6, 2006 06:02 PM
Funny I want to do that everytime I here that islam is the religion of peace. Of course I am joking.
Posted by: pissedoffcanadian at June 6, 2006 06:12 PM
Frankly speaking, not a few heads will have to roll before the West wakes from its pleasant Orientalist nap.
Posted by: Television at June 6, 2006 06:19 PM
Berosus mentions our father Abram without naming him, when he says thus: "In the tenth generation after the Flood, there was among the Chaldeans a man righteous and great, and skillful in the celestial science." But Hecatseus does more than barely mention him; for he composed, and left behind him, a book concerning him. And Nicolaus of Damascus, in the fourth book of his History, says thus: "Abram reigned at Damascus, being a foreigner, who came with an army out of the land above Babylon, called the land of the Chaldeans: but, after a long time, he got him up, and removed from that country also, with his people, and went into the land then called the land of Canaan, but now the land of Judea, and this when his posterity were become a multitude; as to which posterity of his, we relate their history in another work. Now the name of Abram is even still famous in the country of Damascus; and there is shown a village named from him, The Habitation of Abram." ( Long before mohammad the world had Josephus and before him the world had Moses) Have mercy...all this killing for a man-who came long after!
Posted by: storagemanager at June 6, 2006 06:27 PM
Circus Canadiana, a mere hour from where i sit and type. You know, this whole thing...the past five years (of course, exceeding this, but since the tipping point 9/11)...forest for the trees for too many afraid to acknowledge their instincts and history, blind with eyes. But I stand by my opinion that, given time, and more pushing, we in the west will resurrect our spirit. We are just bewildered by it. It's like something from a movie, but all too horribly real...surreal at times.
These culties...because that's what they are. Forget about the fact it's been here for 1400 years. Forget the (inflated) global numbers. This is a cult of robotics, catering to brain dead masses who repeat and regurgitate ad nauseum.
Oh, and they are such fricking attention whores. As much as you can be assured that the little shrimp in charge of North Korea got off on his inclusion in that South Park movie, being the renowned movie buff that he is, you can be assured these shells of humanity are enjoying every infidel camera lense being pointed their way.
I'm here, yes, taking in another sorry tale of muslim aggro and woe, but truly am becoming so very sick of there being nothing else to speak of on the planet. Muslims. Islam. Beheading. Slavery. Genocide. Rape. Mutilation. Totalitarianism. Islam...Islam...
Look at how they hold the Koran out like a little shield...a buffer from reality.
Posted by: anathema at June 6, 2006 06:31 PM
I wish these kids had succeeded. Not that I don't like Prime Minister Harper, but having some islamic hotheads behead the "head" of the country, would send a message to dhimmi Canada that jihadwatch.com could never send in a thousand years of typing and posting. What a coup for the anti-jihad movement for such an attack to have succeeded.
Anyway, I'm sure there are many more young islamic men in canada looking to take up the torch. It won't be long before one group makes it through undetected. Then things will start to happen. Hopefully.
BTW, with how slack the security is in Ottawa, I don't think they would have had any trouble beheading the prime minister. Remember when that intruder snuck in to the prime minister's bedroom one evening? His wife had to fend him off with an inuit stone carving. That is canadian prime minister security at its best. Incidentally, I'd pay a week's salary to see Sheila Copps beheaded.
Posted by: somethingaboutislam at June 6, 2006 06:47 PM
Will Canada remain a US ally? The risk of bombs
going off in the Toronto subway may make Canadian
leaders think twice before supporting the US in
the war against Islam.
Posted by: george_rem at June 6, 2006 06:49 PM
At least one member of a group of terror suspects plotted to storm Canada's parliament and behead officials, including the prime minister, if Muslim prisoners in Canada and Afghanistan were not released, according to charges made public Tuesday
Okay, so what's the problem?
Sounds like the Canadians are being less than sensitive about this issue.
Is it not the free exercise of the islam that they are objecting to here?
After all, beheading is the mandate of mohammad, is it not?
Have I misread to koran? Have I?? Then please enlighten me as to my various errata on the matter.
Or is Canadian bigotry and racism what's at issue here???
Posted by: witness at June 6, 2006 06:50 PM
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Posted by: traeh at June 6, 2006 07:52 PM
Like zombies but instead of brains they need heads. "I need heads"! will live forever...some cheap knockoff movie studio could make some really bad horror movies. You know the ones where the the teenagers drive into the wrong woods but in this case it could be parts of Toronto, New York or any odd western city with a muslim community. Little stupid blonde Jill gets out of the car and tells Jack this might not be the place to make out. Thats when the knife crazed muslims appear and heads start rolling....
No doubt the muslims would protest but not becuase they will be betrayed wacking non-muslims but becuase something stupid like the Koran being disrespected or some other trival matter like praying the wrong direction etc.
Cool instead of a Full Moon its a Crescent Moon!
Instead of a wolf howling its a crazed muslim yelling is his love of allah.....you better run!
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at June 6, 2006 08:14 PM
I hate to have to agree with "somethingaboutislam"'s post, but I, too, wish they had suceeded, at least in part. I truly believe that no matter how heinous the plotted action, no matter how detailed its plans, most of the West (including the media) simply do not care about the many terrorist acts that are stymied. Look at 7/7 in Britain, even--that did succeed, but "only" about 50 people were killed, far fewer than the numbers the terrorists had hoped for. What has anyone in Britain done since then to seriously tackle terrorism? How many extemist mullahs have been deported? Zero. 7/7 was followed a few months later by Muslims in the anti-cartoon protests holding placards saying "Britain, you will pay--another 7/7 is on its way." Still, no serious actions have been taken. Many Canadians may be angry now, but since the attacks were foiled, I predict they will forget this incident quite quickly. I'm afraid another attack causing carnage on the scale of 9/11, or close to it, *outside of the United States*, is the only thing that (possibly) may wake people from their stupor.
Posted by: kaffirchick at June 6, 2006 08:41 PM
kaffirchick writes: "I'm afraid another attack causing carnage on the scale of 9/11, or close to it, outside of the United States, is the only thing that (possibly) may wake people from their stupor."
We have a benchmark: The Madrid train bombings did not awaken the Spaniards as to the Islamist terrorist threat. Instead, it had the opposite effect: It scared them so much that they decided that it was too costly to stand with the U.S. anymore. And so they elected Zapatero who broke with the U.S.--not just on Iraq, but on the whole notion of using military force against terrorists. The confused and hesitant way Aznar tried to deal with the train bombings helped contribute to that.
The missing ingredient in all this has been leadership--a charismatic, eloquent, inspiring leader, on the scale of a Franklin Roosevelt, a Winston Churchill, a Ronald Reagan--someone who will level with the people in the attacked country, tell them the truth about the Islamist threat and call them to arms. As in the prelude to World War II and in the Cold War, such men are not listened to at first--they are ridiculed and even vilified. As ex-Senator Bill Bradley once said, "Leadership involves telling the people what they do not want to hear." But if they persist, events eventually catch up with them and they are ready to lead.
Such potential leadership is rare. Here in America, Bush's inarticulate way of speaking has become a national joke. The only two men who seem promising to me are John McCain (possibly), and Arnold Schwarzenegger (who is Constitutionally prevented from running for President at this time). That's about it. I can't picture Hillary Clinton calling America to arms in a way that Roosevelt or Reagan could. And I see no such potential leaders on the horizon in Britain, or France, at all.
Posted by: Steven L. at June 6, 2006 10:10 PM
Steven, the benchmark is 9/11. 3000 dead and no anti-islam leader emerged. People thought that Bush was going to be that leader. Turns out he was just another clueless politician. Yes, he enjoyed the spotlight on 9/12 with the bullhorn on the pile, and talk about Dead or Alive, but that was just typical political showmanship.
I never felt Bush was a leader. He didn't have the intellect to be a leader. All great leaders have powerful intellects. This guy has the intellect of a college freshman. With a C average. Kerry, on the otherhand, had little intellect either, - liberals usually don't - they have talking points. The difference with Kerry or Hilliary, however, is that they can express those talking points in grammatically correct sentences.
Posted by: somethingaboutislam at June 6, 2006 10:49 PM
Each country will be different.
As much as I hoped the lesson of 9/11 was universal and permanent -- even that failed to pursuade. Perhaps it's the only way. I don't know. But each country's character will be grievously challenged by the probable coming horrors, not just the ones the Muslims inflict on us, but those we'll inflict on them before it's over.
Spain? Failed. (the optimist would say "so far...")
Russia? Failed. Probably will continue with their neo-Stalinist silliness and re-start the genital stuffing techniques that at least made the Jihadis sweat. Salvageable? Who knows. Who cares, as long as she doen't cause us too much harm in her own special way.
England? Waking up. I am confidenct, even with the wide and deep insurrection in her domain. Our friends the Brits may still have their finest hours ahead of them.
France. Whore of Babylon. Not worth discussing. KOed eventually after some spasms.
Germany? We'll see.
Holland? Fail.
Denmark -- Gold star! The Danes are gonna will be OK as long as the EU is murdered in its sleep.
Canada? Canada will be OK but they've got some serious ground to cover.
USA -- Still waking up. I wouldn't bet against US! Nevertheless, not a slam dunk by a long shot. We have a lot of ground to cover.
Posted by: jsla at June 6, 2006 11:08 PM
Australia -- Gold star. They're Great! Also, GREAT food. Like to have fun. I love Australians.
Posted by: jsla at June 6, 2006 11:10 PM
The only two men who seem promising to me are John McCain (possibly), and Arnold Schwarzenegger
Posted by Steven L
Steven, for God's sake, do some serious research into McCain's background, voting record, and his overall demeanor and ideology. McCain is as dangerous as Ted Kennedy, his bosom buddy and co-author of several disgraceful bills. His campaign reform bill is a fiasco, a blatant insult and violation of the first amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Newt Gingrich is not perfect and I don't agree with everything he says but he understands Islam; he respects the American Constitution; and he is not an open borders multiculturalist like McCain. John McCain is no more a conservative than George Bush. He scares the hell out of me and I find his elitist, superior attitude repulsive. I'm sorry he suffered as a POW in Viet Nam but I believe maybe some of the commie indoctrination may have hit the mark while he was a prisoner. John McCain is dangerous; look at the immigration reform debacle he played a major role in producing. His own state is under seige by illegal immigrants yet he is more concerned about them than the people who elected him. Too bad he'll be in the Senate for four more years; God only knows how much more damage he and Teddy will do before his term ends or he runs for president.
Arnold is married to a Kennedy. His options are limited and he's not a social conservative anyway. Gingrich is the best hope out there.
Posted by: Susanp at June 6, 2006 11:10 PM
"Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and don't do it, that's trustworthiness." —George W. Bush, in a CNN online chat, Aug. 30, 2000
For those interested in knowing just how illiterate the president is, and just how funny it can be, check out this link. Regardless of your politics, you will be laughing your head off for hours. There are hundreds of "Bushisms" to peruse.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms2000.htm
Check the other links on the page for other years.
Or his top 100 of all time:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushdumbquotes.htm
Posted by: somethingaboutislam at June 6, 2006 11:42 PM
I hate the Muslim savages as much as anyone (possibly more..) but at least this time they threatened the right people.
Perhaps it will change the minds of Canadian pols and government officials when they are the ones on the top of the beheaders list instead of ordinary Canadians.
Since the pols and the government are the ones who inflicted Islamic immigration on the country in the first place, its only right that they should be the ones to pay the price.
Seriously, what did moronic Western politicians imagine would happen when they flooded our countries with hordes of uncivilised people who are so far down the evolutionary scale that they marry their first cousins and still dont comprehend that the male is responsible for the sex of a child..
The Western 'elites' should pay for their treachery by being the first targets. Sounds fair to me.
Posted by: Deecha at June 6, 2006 11:56 PM
Guys
I am from India, Yesterday in the news, The mulim patriots of India wants a ban on th 100 yeard old National Song.
I am really very hurt at their demand, how can they be so rude...I know that muslims are the worst people to live along with but from what does they get this rude and unyeilding behaviour to ask for a ban on everythig and anythign that they dont like that to in a country where they are a minority.....
I guess when they breed well to even 30 to 40% I can see the temples being blown up frequently...
The World heritage site of AJanta and Ellora were recently saved by cracking a plot to blow them up...
Posted by: Varma at June 7, 2006 12:27 AM
This morning in the great state of Texas, I heard a national female talk show host tie all of the threads together and name terror for what terror is:
Islamic Jihad
and
Muslim Jihad
It is not terror it is Muslim Jihad. The truth is spreading.
Muslims refuse to clean up their religion. The war with Islam is inevitable.
Prepare, be armed, be ready.
The Texican,
Freedom, the only choice at any cost and the cost will be immense.
Posted by: Texican at June 7, 2006 12:36 AM
It's all the Canadian's fault, for being lackies of the Bushco empire, they provoked those poor kids, those fascist jack booted Mounties, boo hoo, I'm going to Canada and protest!
Posted by: Dumbo at June 7, 2006 12:37 AM
To: Varma
Muslims don't like anything not related to MO...
even cheetah kittens!
I once on TV saw this arab muslim sudanese exporter (exporting god know what) in Africa (cannot remember the country) who had two live cheetah kittens. He tied them up and made them fight each other for money. One of them lost an eye etc. The story ended with U.S. Army observers saving the kittens but the funny part was when they explained it to this arab muslim that it is illegal to have cheetah kittens he got angry and tried to hit kittens with a stick stating that "see see they like to fight".
Point it nothing is sacred...not even kittens.
Posted by: greatcometof1577 at June 7, 2006 01:16 AM
One of the Muslim members of Parliament was asked about these militant groups and if the radical Imam should be banned from visiting canada to preach the hatred.
Not only did she avoid the question on banning visiting radical islamists, but her answer to solve the problem was to have Islam taught in the Public schools to counter the Islamophobia from the people who hijacked islam and give it a bad image.
These are the same Muslims that worked hard to ban other faiths from the public schools and killed the Christmas plays and Easter references, now they want Islam to be an official State sanctioned indoctrine in the public schools just because 1% of the population can't police theirown religious temples.
I will say this about our gutless Politicians, while the Police averted a massive slaughter of civilians in a business area of Toronto, these weasels now focus on security at the Parliamentary buildings.
So when the taxpayers tried to tell them we were at risk by Islamist we were labelled Racists, but now that they're necks are on the line NOW it's a serious threat.
Nice to see they were willing to take the terror risks with my life over the las 10 years.
Posted by: ala-sux at June 7, 2006 01:17 AM
9/11 didn't produce a clear-sighted leader vis-a-vis Islam, in part because the West has been so hugely ignorant of what Islam is. Muslims represent a small minority in the U.S., and a mostly segregated, if larger, minority in Europe. So most people in the West have not preceived any need to know anything about Islam.
But 9/11 became the starting point for a massive education and self-education project, which seems slowly to be coming to fruition. Andrew Bostom only started studying Islam after 9/11. And Jihad Watch has only been online educating people since October 2003, though Robert's books have been coming out since well before that date. Numerous other websites critical of Jihad and Islam have only been around for a few years. And in the last few years the number and popularity of critical books seems to have increased quite a bit, with no end in sight. A class of Western resistance teachers is starting to graduate from apprentice level to a degree of expertise, and exerting increasing sway over public opinion and public policy. Leaders like Hirsi Ali are being listened to: she is going to work at the American Enterprise Institute, a premier conservative D.C. think tank with very strong influence on the Washington political establishment. Robert recently consulted at the United States Central Command in Tampa, and his latest book, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades was a New York Times bestseller.
I think new hope about the situation is also justified when a mainstream conservative website like National Review Online posts, as they did today, an article complaining mordantly about the failure of the New York Times to link Islam with violence.
Public reaction to the next attack will be far better informed, I think, than the reaction to 9/11. Criticism of Islam will emerge as an even more mainstream force than it currently is.
Posted by: traeh at June 7, 2006 01:56 AM
I cant speak for America, Canada or India, but from my observations in Malaysia:
1. On Independence, the muslim ruling party said this is a secular country & islam is the official religion where only 30% or less are muslims. Eveyone has equal share etc.
2. Then they came up with malay rights where malay muslims (majority muslims are malays) enjoy benefit that non-muslims cant question, on questioning, they will be sent to jail without trial (Read ISA) for being a threat.
3. Then when the non muslims won the election in the capital of Malaysia in May, 1969, the malays started a religion riot & killed around 1600 people. NO ONE WAS BEING INVESTIGATED. Eye witness claimed that the mosques were inciting hatred & commading that every muslim must take arms and kill the chinese. May 13, 1969.
4. The Capital became a Country owned Area, meaning, the goverment only would control the place. While the state capital moved to Shah Alam.
5. Over 200 temples were demolished within the next 30 years & they are continuing to do it. The latest that I knew was when 300 hindu worshipers were pulled out of the temple & was demolished. The official status of a hindu temple is Immigrant Houses/Buildings. It is normally not stated in the state development map.
6. Declared that Malaysia is a Islamic country. Muslims youth leader raised a keris (short dagger) & threaterned non malays indirectly.
7. Non Muslims must be trankful to the Malays/muslims for being able to stay & granted a place to study (basic education). Non Muslims dont have the right to question about islam or write about islam or muslim's rights.
8. Non muslims are excluded from Shariah court. Only Muslims are subjected to shahriah rulings. In which, it protects them in case of any dispute with non muslims. In such a case, a High Court decided not to intefere with the ruling of a lower shahriah court.
9. Only Islamic religios classes are permitted in public schools, other religous classes must be done privately.
So guys, the modus operandi is simple.
1. When they are small in numbers, they behave nicely, collaborate properlly. But in fact they are planing & lying to us.
2. They take steps to strengten themselves with laws, wealth & politically.
3. Once they are ready, they will show their true colors by eliminating non muslims, via the culture, place of worship & even history.
Even Its not too bad in my country, it will soon get worse & many muslims are smart enough to see the political connection with religion but they are tied by this & they cant act as well. I have good muslims friends that share the same sentiments that I do.
The bottom line is we cant expect muslims to govern muslims because every muslim is right their way & the extremist will always prevail.
Things must be done & it must be done now. The more we wait, the more our children will suffer.
READ AND LEARN THE TRUTH...............
Posted by: tjwork at June 7, 2006 02:06 AM
Yesterday a friend of mine introduced me to a man who home is near a mosque. The mosque came up recently with saudi money. This guy reminded me of Texican. He had a gun in each room, complete with boxes of ammo. He was so paranoid he had a gun fitted on the underside of his bed with clamps. I was amused at first, then I heard the mullah wailing allahu akbar, and I realized this guy has to listen to it 5 times a day. He may be paranoid, but Only The Paranoid Survive. Maybe this is what it is all leading up to. Gotta get somebody to fit those clamps.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 7, 2006 02:29 AM
Holy cow, Texican. You drunk?