Dhimmi media covers up Islamic identity of Canadian terror suspects, says they represent "broad strata" of society

This Canadian Press story (thanks to Michelle Malkin) is entitled "Suspects from 'broad strata' of Canadian society," and focues on everything except the obvious thing that links together the suspects. And they're "model citizens," unknown to the Muslim Students Association. The obvious fact that they are Islamic jihadists is swept under the rug. Even "Steven Chand" is introduced several paragraphs before we discover he is "Abdul Shakur":

TORONTO -- From an unmarried computer programmer to a university health sciences graduate and the unemployed, the 17 suspects charged in a foiled terrorist plot represent a "broad strata'' of Canadian society.

"Some are students, some are employed, some are unemployed,'' RCMP assistant Commissioner Mike McDonell said Saturday.

The 12 men in custody range in age from 19 to 43 and are residents of Toronto, Mississauga and Kingston, Ont., while the five youths cannot be identified under the Youth Criminal Justice Act.

Rocco Galati, lawyer for two of the Mississauga suspects, said Ahmad Ghany is a 21-year-old health sciences graduate from McMaster University in Hamilton. He was born in Canada, the son of a medical doctor who emigrated from Trinidad and Tobago in 1955.

Shareef Abdelhaleen is a 30-year-old unmarried computer programmer of Egyptian descent, Galati said. He emigrated from Egypt at the age of 10 with his father who is now an engineer on contract with Atomic Energy of Canada, the lawyer said.

Galati said neither of his clients have criminal records and are both "model citizens.''

"Both of their families are very well-established professionals, well-established families, no criminal pasts whatsoever,'' Galati said. "That's why we're anxious to see the particulars of the allegations against them.''

The middle-class east-end Toronto neighbourhood that terror suspect Steven Chand calls home is filled with children, lined with two-storey homes and rich green, well-maintained lawns.

Area resident Casey Grenier, 32, stood with two neighbours enjoying a beer on a porch next door to Chand's residence were unmarked cars and police officers were parked.

"It's a real quiet neighbourhood,'' Grenier said. "You get up in the morning and you hear the crickets chirping.''

Grenier said police pulled up at the residence around 4 p.m. with forensics trucks and a SWAT team and blocked off the street. Police were seen by neighbours leaving the residence carrying sealed Ziploc bags containing unspecified items.

Neighbours said Chand, also known as Abdul Shakur, rented a basement apartment in the home, owned by Mohammad Attique, a father of five.

Attique operated an Islamic bookstore from the home, but neighbours drew up a petition last year calling for the business to be shut down because it was being operated in a residential neighbourhood.

Neighbours said the owner had built a two-level garage behind the home to house the bookstore, and was allegedly dumping debris into an electrical field with power lines behind the house.

Grenier said residents of the home kept to themselves, but he noticed unusual activity in the early morning hours.

"You never see them during the day, always deliveries late at night, early in the morning,'' said Grenier, a Toronto Transit Commission employee. "I get home at about 2:30, 3 o'clock (in the morning) and you always see people coming in and out, but you just assume it's books coming out.''...

"I have been asking around and no one seems to know them,'' Hafizur Rahman, president of the Islamic Centre of Kingston told the Ottawa Sun.

Taking into consideration the men's ages, Rahman told the Sun they may be students at Queen's University.

However, Haseeb Khan, president of the Muslim Students' Association at Queen's, also didn't recognize the men's names.

After asking members of his executive and several students at the school Saturday, he was still unsure whether they attend the university.

"We don't seem to know those people at all,'' he said.

Likewise the New York Times (thanks to all who sent this in) speaks about "Canadian residents" and hardly at all about their Islamic identity. It also quotes the McDonell "broad strata" business. The word "jihad" does not appear; Steven Chand's Muslim name is not given; the only way anyone would get an idea of what is going on here is from references to "Islamic extremists" and "Al-Qaeda," buried deep in the story.

The Times has never more richly deserved the "New Duranty Times" label. Imagine a 1938 story about Kristallnacht that spoke of "German youths" representing "broad strata" of society, and never once mentioning Hitler or National Socialism. There would have been no excuse then, and there is no excuse.

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I was just watching Fox News Live and host, Jamie Colby asked guest commentator Gen. Wesley Clark, "What could have possibly caused those 17 Canadians to become involved in terrorism?"

Gen. Clark explained, "They get these ideas from the INTERNET. There are FOREIGN WEBSITES out there that give them these ideas."

Not a single reference was made to Islam, Qur'an, Muslim, or Jihad.

I would add here, that a number of Canadian news outlets DID use the word 'muslim.'

Two other thoughts:

Today they were talking about vandalism at the major mosque in Toronto. Can we be certain it wasn't a muslim who did the deed?

And: Toronto is heavily ME / Asian ethnic. As in: Every country islam has ever conquered / terrorized / overrun.

Do these teens realize the can of Whoop-A$$ they would have unleashed, if they had managed to kill hundreds or even thousands, many of whom would be from those very countries?

I sent a letter to several of my liberal friends who have told me repeatedly to cease sending them such commentaries about Islam, as it clearly shows "my bent." Just WTF is my bent?

Again, for those who do not know, I am atheist of European extraction and a homosexual to boot. There, now back to the letter I sent. In the letter, I reminded them that the NYtimes mentions that there are Southeast Asians in Canada.

Here it is:

The NY times mentions that Canada has a large South Asian community. Interestingly, these men do not appear to be Thai, Mhong, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Laotian, Filipino, "Singaporan", Nepalese, Burmese, Bhutanese or Indi. So just what ethnic groups did these young men belong to? It appears that they are all Pakistani and Bangladeshi – maybe Indonesian/Malay too. Gees, I wonder what made these people, the vast majority of whom appear to have been born in Canada, so upset. I wonder too what sets these persons apart from other "South Asians"? And why do they wish to harm Toronto? Maybe it was Canada's involvement in Iraq. Uh oh, that can't be it since Canada didn't... So what on earth are these apparently westernized "youths" upset at? Is it Bush or Canadian "racism" against "South Asians"? I am just so stumped. Are you too?

The motivation of the youths (two of the “youths” were in their 30s and 40s) was “Al Qaeda” inspired attacks?

They sound just like the countless other disgruntled Moslem populations in the UK, Australia, Israel/Palestine, Holland, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Italy, Norway, Denmark, Bosnia, and of course, the infamous restive “youths” of France. Well rest assured that have I left out so many other angry Moslem youths around the world. Why are they so angry? It must be “racism” that is the problem!

In this case, the Canadian authorities have not yet indicated what they believe the motivations of the Canadian youths were. They indicated that they had no ties to OBL. If that’s the case, gee, I wonder. Might it be the Koran, the aHadith or Suna, which venerate the brutal warrior "prophet" Mohamet who the Mass media (and by supposedly non PC persons like Bill Maher) that he was a man of peace – with endless comparisons to Buddha and Jesus? We know Mohamet is a person so highly revered as a prophet that he is to be emulated by Moslems. But what can we make of a man who was an assassin of his "pagan" opponents, subjugated his subjects, imposed the draconian and oppressive Sharia law and demanded jihad by his subjects against the filth/infidels. Moreover, Mohammed was involved in numerous wars. Now there's a role model for young people! Why doesn’t someone inform these misguided youngsters that Islam is a religion of peace?

"I am just so stumped." None of us are here. It's simply enough to be a western, liberal tolerant society to make you worthy of attack. The Madrid bombings weren't about the Iraq war either - it was all about 1492 when Mo's warriors were expelled. You're dealing with medieval minds here not rational ones.

What is it that Mike Savage likes to say (and titled a book after) -- "Liberalism is a mental disease!"

Yes, I'm convinced he's right. I can't even stomach turning on mainstream media, reading a NY Times or having to listen to the propaganda machine's like the AP or the BBC. Even 'Hardball' plays "softball" with the truth.

The Canadian Press is just one more example of how dangerous a game is being played with the hearts and minds of the average Western citizen. We really shouldn't be surprised though -- the only decent reporting going on today is done by independents, true conservatives, talk radio hosts, bloggers, authors and a handful of others. The liberal press is part of the cadre of allies that is hellbent on pulling the rest of us over the cliff as the New Caliphate inches closer and closer to becoming a reality in the modern world.

The funniest thing about this story is that Canada has always been a strong supporter of 3rd world and Muslim (including Palestinian) causes on the world stage, has strongly opposed the Iraq war, been hostile to American foreign policy, and has been *very* open to Muslim immigration from Iran, Pakistan and Africa. (Toronto has a HUGE Muslim population, and lots of them already have Canadian passports and need no visa to enter USA--that's very scary).

Remember how Chretien called Bush an idiot?
Who's the idiot now, Prime Minister?

I wonder what's a White liberal Canadian to make of this story--they love Muslims so much, how come the nice Muslims dont love them back?!


Today the Police chief attended a media conference held by Muslims at a Mosque , radio and Pulse24 covered it live but there was 4 minutes of prayer telling unbelivers they are ignorant sinners and offensive to Allah.

But even when the self-professed Moderate muslims spoke they mentioned Palestine,Iraq,Afghanistan,Russia and use Bush and Blair to excuse away the 17 Muslims arrested on terrorism charges.
The press conference was to draw attention to a Mosque that was damaged and ironically it was blamed on non-Muslims as backlash , but the 17 muslims with 3 tonnes of explosives are declared innocent and only "Alleged" to have plotted terrorism and didn't commit a crime yet.
But suicide bombers don't leave very much behind to put on trial for murder.

The Live coverage was cut off when a pro-Shariah law islamist took the mic and spewed lies about the Canadian Government arresting innocent Muslims.
And these were the moderate Muslims denouncing all acts of violence and terrorism, but they never actually condemned the Muslims doing the terrosim for Allah and Islam. The Quran makes it clear who the innocent civilians are and who are the enemies of Islam.

The excuse is the exact same one I heard from the elitist, sophisticated Left immediately after 9-11: Polly Toynbee wrote a revealing column in The Guardian in which she lamented, not the deaths and destruction, but the damage that 9-11 might do to the cause of multiculturalism.

And you're seeing the same response from the Canadian elites in response to this latest terrorist plot in Toronto. Namely, we must neatly package away this "incident" with a few mild neutral paragraphs, so that ordinary Canadians don't become suspicious of Islam and so the long-term goal of a multiculturalist society is not compromised.

If ordinary average citizens start to realize that Islamic culture has an especial problem with intolerance and violence (and it sure does!), then that calls into question the basic assumption on which multiculturalism rests: that all cultures are of equal moral worth and are equally deserving to participate as equals in a democratic society.

And since multiculturalism is the Holy Grail which cannot be questioned, any evidence to the contrary must either be rationalized away, or suppressed altogether.

This problem seems to be getting worse before it gets bettter. In this one the reporters are practically contorting themselves around the obvious islam connection,

but they wont be able to keep it up for ever.

Kafir Nonbeliever-

The Canadian military did and continues to participate in Afghanistan.

That's good enough for these "men without religious affiliation".

Who shall never be named.

Never associated with anything clear as far as motive or ideology.

Never saying: Muslim extremism or Islamic triumphalism

"Today they were talking about vandalism at the major mosque in Toronto. Can we be certain it wasn't a muslim who did the deed?" -Gary above

It really doesn't matter -- they know that their high priest said "Mud sometimes gives the illusion of depth" and "The media is the message". That's all they need to know.

These cultural marxists are working the same scam in the UK too -- The Guardian decides that today is the day to lead with the "investigation" into the shooting of the running Brazilian after the 7/7/05 attacks in London. Charges may be brought against High Officials for daring to attempt to protect London after it was attacked. It's the Michael Moore technique of forging data to fit a predetermined perspective. Ignore all that contradicts the orthodoxy. If reality doesn't deliver, edit until the narrative does. Don't disrupt the drumbeat!

They are doing this deliberately and maliciously.

A US Supreme Court Justice (I forget which one) once said: "I don't believe in conspiracies in general -- but I believe in them in the specific" or something to that effect. I agree.

*** Reichs Marshall McLuhan it was.

Kafir Nonbeliever-

Part Two (which glitched away on a ? mark)

Keeping it vague until the audience has probably stopped reading in annoyance at the dogged amorphousness.

In effect, playing the anti-civilizational lullaby, between the lines, of:

"So, just trust me, they're only 'youths' and 'asians' and 'much like you and me', -( if we were jihadists working for Islamic Domination and Humbling of the Infidel Dogs maybe).

Who in the audience can't recognize the obvious marionette routine that passes for much of the Gelded Media... as they prop-up insulting nonsense about our enemies for vacuous cash?

Their intentionally-misleading headlines and studious avoidance of naming the problem (Muslim Terror) are invidious.

While disgorging reams of faux sociology, quack psychology, pandering religious analysis, and
slanted history in oder to excuse, distract from, or confuse this mortal issue.

And, above all, (and beneath contempt) their suicidal ignoring of human nature- and predatory reality- in favor of myths of utopian sociobiology. Myths that died decades ago under new DNA knowledge.

The absurd (and nihilistic for our Civilization) slant -of too much of the popular avenues of information (posing as factual news organization)- has worn so thin that their unspoken intentions are becoming embarassingly transparent.

More and more people reading or listening or watching just laugh at their earnest idiocies and their pious frauds, the way Pravda's proclamations became risible to their readership ...by being formalized to cliches, and it ended up as a paper better passed through a mirror.

The harder the Media tries to hide the flapping turkey [Islamic Imperialsm] under their cloak [pulp and satellite], the harder and more ridiculous their job will become.

I wish them failure.

Theological correctness is still contributing to our vulnerability by not naming the enemy.

I really don't see a politician or MSM outlet getting a clue until we are hit again, and they still might back away from all criticism of any religion so as not to hurt anyone's feelings, lose votes or ratings.

Before I go on, I want to thank Robert and the folks who regularly post here for the instructive and thought provoking content of the site. I discovered JW during the “cartoongate” episode, and, since then, JW has been my reliable source of information on the ideology of Jihad. This is also the first time I post here, and, as a Canadian, the topic couldn’t be more fitting. So, without further ado…

As part of the 20- percent-or-so of Canadians born abroad, I feel very comfortable in saying that the Toronto terrorist plot is yet another manifestation of the failure of multiculturalism and a vivid example of Gramscism put into practice (and I recall another poster bringing out Gramsci to shed a light between the unsavoury alliance between Muslims and the Left). Quoting Michael Alexander’s “Competing Against America” (Wiley, 2005): “…multiculturalism does not achieve what should be its most important goal: to demystify the other. The views of cultural life presented by multiculturalism are uninspiring and uninteresting (…) because they present culture in the form of mind-numbing displays of folklore. (…) Canada is sorely in need of cohesion, but we are unlikely to achieve it because multiculturalism discourages individuals from different backgrounds from truly engaging with each other on the street, in neighbourhoods and in the workplace.” To this, I would add that, within the multiculturalism framework, the ideology of Jihad finds fertile ground to flourish, as many mechanisms and checks that allow society to weed out undesirable behaviours are damped, as these behaviours are seen as a cultural trait.

As long as most Canadians fool themselves into a false sense of security brought by the myth of “peace and prosperity” promised by multiculturalism, we’ll continue to be a fragmented society unable to defend ourselves from Islamist supremacy, and, yes, a security risk to ourselves and to our neighbours to the south.

profitsbeard writes:

"Their intentionally-misleading headlines and studious avoidance of naming the problem (Muslim Terror) are invidious."

To be more precise substitute "Islam" for "Muslim Terror." They are identical--almost. The difference is that "Muslim Terror" leaves wiggle room for the "moderate Moslem," that is, the Moslem not at that time actively carrying out the violent jihad that the Western governments and media sweep under the prayer rug as "Terrorism," "Islamism," "Islamic Fundamentalism," etc.

Islam is the problem. No matter how much is tried to hide its hideousness. The stench of the rotting core can never be washed out of one's nostrils with all the perfumes of Arabia.

I like that Freudian typo, profitsbeard... "Odor to excuse." It's rank and needs taking out along with all the other trash.

unicorns62000-

Of course.

Any large truth sticks in their p.c. filter. (Only shifty little half-truths make it through.)

But even the mildest form of a hard fact will do ("Muslim Terrorism") [... although I prefer "Islamic Imperialism"] rather than continue this self-abnegating farce of unspoken plots and unnamed mass-murderers.

I would advise all p.c.-bound electronic and print people:

if you hate yourself, then just start a bungie-jumping with second hand equipment,
but get out of the Media- and stop trying to undermine the Necessary Strength needed for your own Civilization to survive.

Or leave it, and attack from the 7th century, honestly.

With ricin. Semtex. And suras.

Fools, not persistent enough in their folly.

jsla-

Did I mean "ordure"?

LOL.

(Thanks for catching that whiff of eau de malaprop.)

Profitsbeard:

I am aware of Canada's actions in The Stone age Sharia Abiding Tribes of Afghanistan. Remember, there are other (almost exclusively infidel) countries there:

NATO:
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada *
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxemburg
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

Partner Nations:
Albania
Austria
Australia
Azerbaijan
Croatia
Finland
FYR of Macedonia
Ireland
Sweden
Switzerland

Non-NATO / Non-EAPC nations
New Zealand

I hope I have not missed any.

I have to add one other thing. I fear that news media are losing all credibility they had left. Fox News too is so slanted in favor of Bush and is essentially a mouthpiece for the Bush administration and its failures in Iraq. The rest of them attempt to emulate FOX, and have become only newsentainment. There is more discussion about a dead girl American girl in Aruba or other such stories, than anything else. The BBC is better over all, but is blatantly pro-Moslem; it has lost its credibility. I find German news a bit better.

The risk is that all mainstream news media will lose all remaining credibility. So how will we then get informed? You might say it will be via the blogs. But we are entering a world where a lot of news from blogs cannot be verified. Moreover, this also leads to the danger of fragmentation. If, say, conservative persons read only one set of sources, and others do not, information won't be disseminated correctly. I blame the MSM for this horrible situation. They are destroying themselves. At some point, when the stakes are high enough, they will have to report the truth.

I fear that news media are losing all credibility,
Really? I had no idea.

So how will we then get informed?
I think we call it common sense + the Internet.

I found this comment hilarious.

Broad Strata? Were there any females? How can you have a "broad strata" without women? Where were the broads in the strata? Posted by: Tim at June 4, 2006 03:52 PM

http://wizbangblog.com/2006/06/04/broad-strata.php

It's marketed under Eau de Apropos in the downscale stores where I shop...

DP111:

I think they intended "Bored strata", as in "disaffected, unintegrated, non-participatory, unemployed, pissed off, and ready to blow" the new euphemism approved by the CCPCDDO. (a.k.a. the Citizen's Central Planning Committee for the Dissemination of Dissimulation in Ontario) and it came out "Broad".

Times have changed since the infamous stalinist tool walter duranty dissemintated his filth. Anyone who is baffled as to WHY these fine, upstanding Canadians would want to acquire 3 tons of explosives, which I would guess includes at least a portion of the NDT readership, has other means of finding out. This is a good thing, and will ultimately be the undoing of the jihadi's media shills. Only the willfully ignorant will remain loyal readers.

van der Ley:

Welcome to JW. I hope to see more and more Canadians coming here, posting and showing the world that just because governments lie to their people (the U.S. worst of all), doesn't mean the people are blind, deaf and dumb to the truth.

van der Ley wrote an excellent critique of multiculturalism and how it plays into the problem of jihad.

I just have one more point to add to that: Multiculturalism isn't just impractical and self-defeating, it's evil. And despite the "progressive" claptrap coming from its proponents, it's actually quite ancient--a studied indifference to barbarism as long as it's not practiced in our own community.

Multiculturalism implies a refutation of the concept of universal human rights, a concept that is part of the Western tradition and can be found in the U.S. Declaration of Independence, the U.N. Declaration of the Rights of Man, and other such documents. Multiculturalism reduces the issue of human rights to being culture-dependent, and replaces even the most basic questions of morality with situational ethics that gives ancient barbaric practices new legitimacy.

Muslim cultures can allow husbands to beat their wives because, well, it's their culture, you see. And in so doing, the idea that married women everywhere on earth are entitled to live free of physical coercion gets trashed.

Muslim cultures are allowed to punish apostates with death because, well, it's their culture, you see. And in so doing, the very concept of freedom of conscience as a universal human right gets trashed.

Multiculturalism is actually the way things always used to be, till around the 17th century. It's the concept of universal human rights that is new, and (unfortunately) still viewed as radical by so much of the world.

We don't always agree on what those universal rights are. But one thing we thought we had settled, was that human rights should not depend on your geographic coordinates.

I disagree that multiculturalism is a notion without merit. Racism is an evil cancer. Need I remind you all that racism is a weapon the Moslems would weild against us by targeting the disenfranchised amongst us? The problem with multiculturalism is when only you have an invading force that abuses a benevolent system. If multicultaralism is defined as the appreciation of cultures, foods, languages, and traditions - and yes, races - count me in. Islam is a religion, and as such, cannot fall squarely under the rubric of multiculturalism.


Frankly, all other cultures can do what they wish, but destroying my Western culture had better not be part of their laundry list of multiculturalist notions. Then we will have a problem.

I used to play nice in the sandbox when I was little; things have changed.

Islam isn't welcome in my sandbox.

The MSM are defending the multiculturalist concept and in the process they are ignoring reality.
And the reality is that islam is trying to kill infidels and to take over the west.
People like you an i,can clearly see the danger and yet,the MSM continues in their delusional politically corect nonsense of islam being a religion of peace and love,etc....it is highly unlikely that all in the MSM are stupid,so there must be a reason why they act like this.
Multiculturalism itself is not their goal,it
is probably one of the tools used by the left to reach a goal...but what is their final goal??!!
Can`t they see that their deception is going to end in national suicide,can`t they realize that they will be the first to be sacrificed if islam takes over??!!
The liberal secularists,the ones that hold "separation of church and state"so dear,will be on top of the beheading list,the liberal feminists,abortionists,homosexuals,they will all be hunted down and exterminated...can`t they see how they are digging their own grave?!

George_rem,

Posted by: george_rem [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 4, 2006 04:47 PM

"The funniest thing about this story is that Canada has always been a strong supporter of 3rd world and Muslim (including Palestinian) causes on the world stage,"

I don't think that holds. Some elites have managed to create the impression that Canada is friend of the third world, but in real terms I don't see us doing anything more than any of our allies in helping in various (good) causes such as charity work, development projects, etc.

As for Palestine, Canada has always condemned terrorism, and was the first (as far as I'm aware) to cut funding to the Palestinian governing body when Hamas took power.

has strongly opposed the Iraq war,

Not strongly. As I explained in other "canada" threads, Canada was going to be going into Iraq (2003), but then the coalition decided to abandon the agreed-upon inspection process. In fact, at the time, Canada (outside of Quebec) was in favour of going into Iraq. (The U.S. was about 70% in favour of going into Iraq, and Canada was about 60% in favour of going in to Iraq). The closeness between the U.S. and Canada was remarkable given (a) the influence of Quebec (which is generally more opposed to any military action than the rest of the country), and (b) the fact that the Canadian media was generally against going into Iraq, and (c) the fact that the U.S. media was gung-ho in favour of going into Iraq.

"...been hostile to American foreign policy,"

Perhaps, but overall less hostile than the rest of the world. (Perhaps only Israel and Australia are less critical of U.S. foreign policy; Blair's support for U.S foreign policy goes against the overwhelming majority of British, who oppose the war in Iraq). Our (Canadian) left is a lot like America's left in this respect.

"and has been *very* open to Muslim immigration from Iran, Pakistan and Africa. (Toronto has a HUGE Muslim population, and lots of them already have Canadian passports and need no visa to enter USA--that's very scary).

True. This is the most urgent problem. We are importing people whose prevailing ideology is openly hostile to, and calls for the destruction of, our civilization.

Remember how Chretien called Bush an idiot?
Who's the idiot now, Prime Minister?

Actually, Chretien did not call Bush an idiot. His press secretary, off the record, was reckless enough to say, to a reporter, that Bush was a moron. She resigned (I think, because she had to) shortly thereafter. Chretien stated specifically that Bush was not a moron. We also had another loose cannon MP who made anti-American comments, and for that she was kicked out of her political party (Liberal).

I wonder what's a White liberal Canadian to make of this story--they love Muslims so much, how come the nice Muslims dont love them back?!

Well, it's more complex than that. I'll give you an example: Some predominantly white leftists (in the NDP) wanted to introduce sharia in personal and family law (in Ontario). (This I think was partly a scheme to win Muslim votes in some southern Ontario ridings). Another left-of-centre party, the Liberals, deliberated over whether or not to endorse the proposal. The general public, in opinion polls, overwhelming rejected the sharia proposal. Also, prominent feminists, celebrities, and human rights activists (most if not all of whom were on the left side of the political spectrum) publicly opposed the sharia proposal. Finally, the Liberal government under McGuinty scrapped the Sharia proposal along with all other forms of religious arbitration (though unofficial "advice" from religious leaders is still allowed).
In this case, the only people in favour of the sharia proposal were (a) far leftist cultural relativists in the NDP, (b) conservative Muslims, and (c) conservative religious leaders and politicians (these groups are in favour of the limited sharia proposal and also favour Islamic schools, because it is consistent with their own positions regarding their own religions--chiefly, Judaism and Christianity).

So, back to your question: I think it should be addressed to those who are naive about Islam, be they left, right, centre, religious, or non-religious. Certainly, it should be addressed to those who have a naive view of multiculturalism.

Don't completely blame the media for this crap, that is such a weak copout. I believe most people in the US truly enjoy being ignorant so they don't have to accept responsiblity for what's happening.

Kafir

From your list, Albania, Turkey and Azerbaijan are two Islamic countries that have troops in Afghanistan. So they shouldn't be spared either. Someone alert these cells...

On the subject of multi-culturalism, it's a code term for a separate political identity for different groups, be they ethnic, linguistic, cultural and yes, even religious. It's one thing for someone who's settled into the US from, say, Thailand, to continue to eat Thai food, or wear sarongs. But why would that person need a new political party, or be a part of a Thai voting bloc, or need a Thai congressperson for her needs to be met (to the extent that it needs to be politically met)?

Some are student [Muslims], some are employed [Muslims], some are unemployed [Muslims]

It reminds me of that line from the "Blues Brothers" movie, "We play all kinds of music: Country and Western!".

But that is only one style of music, and these are only followers of one religion. Student Muslims and employed Muslims and unemployed Muslims is not a broad cross-section of society, it is just a bizarre subcategorization of a single small segment of society, namely "Muslims". Why can't they say it?

Adela...I expect muslims to lie through their eye teeth, if it benifits them. I dont understand what benifit the MSM or other talkig heads get from the blatant dishonesty we hear from them...or DONT hear from them. It's almost like there is someone/thing above them issuing daily marching orders and instructions. It's amazing how many influential infidels sound like dhimmi's, act like dhimmi's, and probably are dhimmi's. You are right, not all of these people
can be 'that' stupid, so what 'are' they getting out out it? I would like to blame liberals and multiculturalists, same thing, for this but I cant. It's bigger than that. At the very top of repubicanism, we have Geo Bush holding hands and kissing one of the chief terrorists. What is he getting out of that? There must be a profit motivation in there somewhere. He's not doing it for America, Mom and apple pie. Whatever his motivation, he has prostituted himself to Islam. Thats him, but what of the rest. Politicians, activists, jounalists, writers, talk show hosts, ect, who 'should' know better, but apparently dont. You wont hear the aweful truth from most of them. The only place on Earth you can actually get that is from sites like this one, on the internet. 'Know the truth and the truth will set you free', free from what? In this case, the BS thats thrown to us constantly by those above...so what do these people get out of this dhimmisht...? Beats me...self abuse maybe? Maybe Allah has infected them and they have a case of Allahmalaria. Some truth syrum can fix that. They should all be encouraged to come to the JW/DW truth clinic and get well...
Have a good day...