Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald offers an alternate plan to dhimmi governing officials:
A state policy of trying in every way to accommodate Muslims, including the policy of not offending them -- or rather, not doing anything that they could conceivably claim offends them -- is madness. It is obvious that Muslim groups, Muslim spokesman, Muslim individuals, are trying to force the Western world not to see what is in front of it. When appeals to the Idols of the Age ("Everyone Wants the Same Thing," "Everyone Is Exactly Alike") don't do it, other methods are chosen. These include murder of the outspoken (Pim Fortuyn or Theo Van Gogh) which unfortunately tends to make some Infidels suspicious of Muslims. It includes threats of murder, which unfortunately do not always work (Geert Wildres, Ayaan Hirsi Ali). It includes lawsuits and threats of lawsuits, including those the State brings (the trial of Oriana Fallaci). It includes outrage and hints of economic repercussions (Arab governments might pull those glossy ads), which can cause critics to lose their jobs (Will Cummins at The Telegraph).The main thing is to shut those Infidels up, to force them to watch every word.
But this is madness. This is not only wrong, this is the very opposite of what should be done. Everywhere Infidels should demonstrate, repeatedly, ostentatiously, that they have studied the Qur'an and Hadith, and that they have read a sufficient amount about Jihad-conquest and the subjugation of non-Muslims, over 1350 years, so that they cannot be fooled. The mere presence of a single Infidel who knows what he is talking about at one of those Mosque Outreach sessions, can destroy its value to the Muslims who are attempting to inveigle the unwary Infidels. Knowledge is everything; knowledge and the ability to articulate. Those Infidels who wish to carefully regulate the language in which Islam is discussed, because they have been told to do so by apologists for Islam (in many cases, Muslim propagandists and agitators; in other cases, non-Muslim collaborators; in still other cases, simpletons in positions of authority) are simply choosing to deny what Islam teaches, what attitudes it clearly inculcates, and what has been the perceived behavior of Muslims, animated by the immutable texts, from Spain to the East Indies over 1350 years. One can ignore all that and keep hoping and wishing, or one can decide to pull the pillow off of one's head and face the day, however disturbing it may be.The most intelligent thing to do is for Muslims to be put constantly on the defensive, to be constantly made aware that non-Muslims no longer will accept the nonsense about a "religion." Call it a belief-system with elements of worship and a great deal of everything else -- a political system, a social system -- one which is based on a clear division of the Universe between Believer and Infidel. Let Islam be criticized, let Islam be mocked. There will be a gigantic campaign, by Muslims -- there is such a campaign, uncoordinated, spontaneous, by all kinds of Muslims everywhere, to protect the Faith from those who do not discuss it exactly as Believers think they should -- which is exactly in the way that Believers do. But as Ali Sina says, constant mockery, constant awareness of Islam as a totalitarian system, an awareness displayed on every occasion by Infidels, will force certain changes, not least among Muslims of good will and open mind -- or at least stop the onward march of Islam.
Muslims are intent on remaining in the Lands of the Infidels and indeed on swelling their own ranks and power until they will not have to worry about what Infidels think at all. But at this point they still have to worry. They have to worry about whether or not the Infidels will come to their senses sufficiently, will look into history, and will look simply around the world to see how non-Muslims are treated in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, in Iran and Sudan, in Pakistan and Bangladesh and Indonesia, in Malaysia and Afghanistan, and everywhere that Islam prevails and has not been systematically contained either by local despots (Ataturk in Turkey, Bourguiba in Tunisia) and their successors, or opposed by a very large and powerful non-Muslim population (the Maronites in Lebanon until recent decades).
Tell the truth about Islam. Tell it all the time, in different keys. Show that you know what you are talking about. Modify, at times, the way you tell those truths to fit the audience you have, but keep it up. That is the way to make Infidels safer. And it is also the way to hold out hope for those people who, born into Islam, yet not liking it, wishing to escape from it, secretly hope the Infidels will limit its influence, will force changes upon it or at least the perceived need for change to the teachings, and thus the texts, of Islam.
To limit what is said, to be so solicitous of those who do not wish us well, who wish us, our laws, our customs, our understandings, our freedoms, ill, who in many cases are delighted with whatever suffering they can inflict on Infidels anywhere, is crazy. We should worry not about offending Muslims, but about whether or not we have effectively conveyed to them that we understand Islam, and that we understand that it is only those Muslims who do not accept its full teachings -- that is, the bad Muslims -- with whom we can conceivably coexist. And that furthermore we cannot always tell which Muslim is a lax, unobservant, "bad" Muslim, and which is not, nor which children or grandchildren of "bad" Muslims will revert, for one reason or another, to the original, full-bodied, dangerous version.
To engage in self-censorship, to prevent Islam from being freely discussed using terms that are neither obscene nor vicious but only, unfortunately, grimly accurate, to worry about offending Muslim sensibilities, which only promotes (in advance of and in the absence of Muslim rule) the dhimmi mentality, the very theme of Bat Ye'or's Eurabia -- all this will do nothing to protect Infidels. It will do nothing to modify the beliefs of Muslims, nor to encourage the camp of those Muslims who wish that other Muslims would recognize the dangers of what Islam teaches, and work to somehow modify it. If Infidels will not tell the truth about Islam, those would-be "reformers" within Islam will have no one to point to, no way of creating the necessary atmosphere of defensiveness and alarm which is the only thing likely to force at least some Muslims to realize, and then to admit to, some of the dangers and faults of Islam.
Mr. Fitzgerald, I completely agree, but do you also understand that our leaders have more on their schedule than those extremely frustrating (and frustrated) Muslim terrorists?
This essay should be revised to address multiculturists and journalists as well as the state, and it should be sent to all the scoffers and to all the print media in the U.S.
Ilana Freedman wrote a telling article in Benador Associates, "Rushing to Apologize, Israel Loses PR Battle." http://www.benadorassociates.com/pf.php?id=19538 She introduces the principle she calls, "First Story Out Wins." Whenever the Islamists get the jump on more thoughtful and fact-checking jounalists, the early story is the one that is remembered even if it is a total fabrication.
Western media seem to have a double standard with regard to Islamists, allowing them lots latitude while severely criticizing anything that hints of "Islamophobia."
Today I learned "Mohammed Rasool Al Shaytan" is how to say “(The Prophet) Muhammad is the messenger of Satan.”
Very good.
Just trying to further the dialogue with Muslims...
I am rabidly islamophobic, mainly because I am also deathophobic and gettingblowntobitsophobic.
Islam offers me nothing other than enforced belief and righteous martyrdom if I step out of line. Thats just not good enough, Im afraid.
The west is being co-opted by the media who try so hard not to offend muslims while taking great glee in ridiculing Christians and even the west itself.
These same people would find their own head on the block and wonder why, never understanding that even the islamosavages wont trust a turncoat.
Today I happened to find myself sat next to GEORGE GALLOWAY Chief Dhimmi. It was outside a Costa Coffee shop. He was sporting a beard !!!
Maybe he's gonna declare himself a Muslim...
anyways from what i heard of his conversation he was saying that he might not stand for election as an MP next time, however if he does it will be in the next seat "Shadwell" and the head of the council in his current seat will take his place... He then started going on about how highly Islam treats women and how they are the true feminists in the world..
THE GUY MAKES ME SICK
TRAITOR !
Mr. Fitzgerald, the Truth is not in them. Jesus Christ said "I am the (only) Way, the (only) Truth, and the (only) Life." Muslims have rejected the true Jesus Christ, and therefore, embraced the lie that is Islam. They are like their Father, Satan, who was a liar and a murderer from the beginning. Why are we then surprised that they cannot be honest?
That's interesting, Churchill1938. I just Googled Galloway's name to see if there was anything new ... and came up with this disgusting article from the Church of England Newspaper:
Bari is hope for British Muslims
It's a thoroughly dishonest little piece by a thoroughly dishonest little man (one Dr Anthony McRoy, who is described as an "expert in Islam") and is unlikely to impress anyone who's read this, knows what was actually said in that Panorama interview, and is aware that Bari has since issued scarcely veiled threats.
The good news is that Islamophobia is much more widespread and entrenched than you'd think, precisely because any open discussion of Islam is suppressed by the MSM and most politicians. You can bet that in the privacy of one's home, Islam and the Middle East are discussed in very direct, colorful terms, and people email each other news bits about Muslims' outrageous misdeeds both domestically and abroad.
There is no doubt that among most infidels the prevailing mood is that of "we're all in this together." Those few loony leftist who suffer from an acute Stockholm syndrome and side with the enemy are indeed a tiny minority.
Another source of encouragement is our inarticulate and uninformed president, who uses occasionally such terms as "jihadists", "caliphate", "supremacist ideology," etc. I predict that the educational initiative, which started at the grassroots by JihadWatch and others, to inform infidels about Islam, will result in the MSM and politicians increasingly using Islamic terms such as jizya and taqiyya.
We will know we have won when Bush, or his successor, finally acknowledges that the enemy is Islam. Once that is accomplished, the rest will be easy and straightforward.
Hugh says, "A state policy of trying in every way to accommodate Muslims, including the policy of not offending them -- or rather, not doing anything that they could conceivably claim offends them -- is madness."
In the modern era, every Western society is struggling with the question of how accommodating it needs to be to its various minorities. The Muslims didn't invent this notion, nor is it being done as a special favor just for them. For example, I just received a Water Quality Report from my town, which includes versions written in English plus five foreign languages: Greek, Spanish, Kampuchean (for the Cambodian immigrants), French, and Portuguese. And long before 9-11, the U.S. Post Offices in some orthodox Jewish neighborhoods were always open for business on Sunday rather than Saturday, just to accommodate Orthodox Jews who observe the Sabbath on Saturday. And the atheist, Michael Newdow, just lost a court battle to get all U.S. coins changed to remove the phrase "In God We Trust".
But when Muslims started immigrating to Western nations, they picked up on it and started demanding their own "accommodations," for their own purposes.
So to tell our elected officials not to bend over backwards to accommodate Muslims is a tough sell when their policy has been to bend over backwards to accommodate all other vocal minorities. You really need a uniform policy. It illustrates a major unresolved issue for any pluralistic democracy: What is the duty of a society to its various minority groups, and what is their responsibility to society?
I expect these cases will continue to work their way through the courts.
In order to tell the truth, governing officials would first have to be able to know what it is. Which they don't. Moreover, they're been told by the chattering classes that any divergence from the accepted line (and lie)--i.e. about Islam being an inherently lovely, peaceful tolerant faith that has been hijacked/abused/twisted by a handful of extremists--will result in their being labeled "Islamophobic." And frankly, most folks in P.C.-land would rather be called paedophillic than Islamophobic.
HUGH: "It is obvious that Muslim groups, Muslim spokesman, Muslim individuals, are trying to force the Western world not to see what is in front of it. When appeals to the Idols of the Age ("Everyone Wants the Same Thing," "Everyone Is Exactly Alike") don't do it, other methods are chosen. These include murder of the outspoken (Pim Fortuyn or Theo Van Gogh) which unfortunately tends to make some Infidels suspicious of Muslims."
Good essay Hugh, but in the interests of fairness, Pim Fortuyn was not murdered by a Muslim.
Spot on Hugh. Don't think I'd be brave enough to speak out at a Mosque Outreach session though. As you say "Knowledge is everything. Knowledge and the ability to articulate". I would like a list of the common furphies - you know - religion of peace, been hijacked by a few nutters - and some succinct answers given that most people have the attention span of a knat. If the explanations are long winded people just turn off. Can you help Hugh given your way with words?
Sorry ..should be gnat
Check out this proof of the Jihadists lies, today the Brampton-17 (B-17 bombers) now no longer have parents that can claim Islamophobia and ignorance while telling the media the Canada created these Islamists.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060611/csis_terror_060611/20060615?hub=Canada
The parents were tipped-off by CSIS to allow the Islamic values to correct the children going astray and acting out their anger with violence.
Maybe that bogus calim of Vandalism at a Mosque was fore-worn damage control or punishment from the Islamists in the Mosques that were upset by Muslims preventing the slaughter of infidels for Allah and Islam.
"in the interests of fairness, Pim Fortuyn was not murdered by a Muslim."
-- from a posting above
Volkert van der Graaf was a slightly demented man, into whose brain had been put the idea (who put it? who helped crystallize his thoughts? who egged him on?), that Pim Fortuyn was a menace to poor innocent Muslims.
He made this clear before his trial, at his trial, and after his trial.
A report (by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard and Joan Clements) in the Daily Telegraph of March 28, 2003 contains this:
"A Left-wing activist confessed in court yesterday to Holland's first political assassination in 400 years, claiming that he shot Pim Fortuyn to defend Dutch Muslims from persecution. Volkert van der Graaf, 33, a vegan animal rights campaigner, said he alone was responsible for killing the maverick protest leader last May, days before a general election in which the Fortuyn List party vaulted into second place and shattered Holland's consensus.
Facing a raucous court on the first day of his murder trial, he said his goal was to stop Mr Fortuyn exploiting Muslims as 'scapegoats' and targeting 'the weak parts of society to score points" to try to gain political power. He said: "I confess to the shooting. He was an ever growing danger who would affect many people in society. I saw it as a danger. I hoped that I could solve it myself.'"
POssibly van der Graaf arrived at this on his own. More likely, I think, is that Muslims used him as a weaopn, a human guided missile that they could exploit and direct through the power of mental suggestion.
But it doesn't matter. It was a killing for Muslims, on behalf of Muslims, for a Muslim cause, by a non-Muslim sympathizer, of a man known for his anti-Muslim views.
Surely that is enough.
US_infidel,
"The good news is that Islamophobia is much more widespread and entrenched than you'd think, precisely because any open discussion of Islam is suppressed by the MSM and most politicians. You can bet that in the privacy of one's home, Islam and the Middle East are discussed in very direct, colorful terms, and people email each other news bits about Muslims' outrageous misdeeds both domestically and abroad. "
Thanks to the internet, open discussions on Islam is VERY MUCH possible because of the growth of websites such JW/DW. The discussions here can get a bit colorful at times, but overall they are quite interesting.
Quote: Today I learned "Mohammed Rasool Al Shaytan" is how to say “(The Prophet) Muhammad is the messenger of Satan.”
Very good.
Just trying to further the dialogue with Muslims...
Posted by: GreatShaitan [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 15, 2006 12:42 PM
Speaking of Arabic, Hugh, where is the article about it being necessary to know Arabic? I had just started reading it when I came back...it was gone! Poof! Into the Memory Hole!
Hugh-
If it kills for the aims of the jihad, it is a de facto jihadist.
As Sirhan Sirhan became a tool of the Islamic Imperialists, whatever his vague personal religious affiliation, when he shot Robert F. Kennedy, in order to "protest" RFK's and the U.S.' support for Israel in the 6 Day War -begun exactly one year to the day before the assassination. (I don't recall reading about Christian protests over Israel saving itself.)
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/45937
Useful Idiots Of The Jihad may need to be a sub-category of this murderous lunacy.
Hugh rightly states:
Here is a fine example of a state policy to accomodate:
“I have come to see just how much British Muslims make a huge contribution to this country’s success — to our prosperity, our society and our culture."
-- from a posting above, quoting Gordon Brown
No end, apparently, to this.
Sadly, Hugh, it may be more like a new beginning. It is at least likely that Gordon Brown will fairly soon be the (unelected) Prime Minister and, if this happens, we can expect to see much, much more of this dangerous nonsense.
profitsbeard,
The "Palestinian" Sirhan Sirhan's release was also one of the demands of the Black September group (aka Fatah) when they took over the Saudi Embassy in Khartoum, Sudan in 1973.
The assassination of a U.S. Presidential candidate, by a "Palestinian", angered over the U.S.'s support for Israel. Jihad? What jihad? It has taken more than 30 years, and 3000 deaths, but reality is starting to bubble to the surface.
DrWolffenstein said
I saw the same sentiments in another thread a day or two ago. Sure, our leaders are busy guys and gals, but I think they can find time to protect us from a group of people who have sworn to kill us. That should be one of their top priorities. Or, if they are too busy, then create a new Department of DontLetUsGetBlownUpByTerrorists, and put Tom Tancredo in charge of it.
It takes less expelled breath for our leaders to say the words "Islam condones violence" than it does to say "Islam is the religion of peace". So why not tell the truth?
I couldn't agree more with Hugh, but surely when it is taken to the extreme and it is happening more and more it has the opposite affect. Here is a good example from the “ Daily Mail” concerning the raid in London.
Anti-terror police discovered £38,000 in cash at the home of two brothers arrested over a suspected chemical bomb plot.
Officers came across the money in a bedroom after Mohammed Abdul Kahar, 23, and Abul Koyair, 20, were held during a raid at the family's terraced house.
It is not known how Kahar, a postal worker, and Koyair, a shelf-stacker at Tesco, came to have such a large amount of money - much of it in £50 notes - at the property.
Last night security sources confirmed that £38,000 had been found at the house in Forest Gate, East London.
But they believe there was not a sinister reason for so much cash being hidden there.
Muslims frown upon the payment of interest - making it difficult for them to use banks and building societies
here is the link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=390760&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source= if anyone whats to check it out.
I can asure most readers of this blogg that this will be discussed in thousands of home and pubs in Britain. I can even imagine what will be said “ How the hell could these two %$#@# get to save 38,000 pounds when all they do is stack shelfs in a supermarket and they are only in there twenties.”
Here is a link to a London Blogger who expresses his frustration about this article and is so doing expresses the frustration of countless Brits.
http://uppompeii.blogspot.com/
DON'T FORGET TO CHECK HIS POSTING FOR MAY AND APRIL HE HAS GOT SOME GREAT CARTOONS.
While agreeing whole heartedly with Hugh and would like to see a spade called by its proper name a spade and not an excavational tool, most people see through this PC speak and are not impressed.
Sorry when you check the " Daily Mail " link in the above posting ask your selves would you let these two gentlemen sell you a second hand car
"Volkert van der Graaf, 33, a vegan
animal rights campaigner, said he alone was responsible for killing the maverick protest leader last May,"
I just want to point out that being vegan myself I can assure you that this mobot's motives for carrying out such a heinous crime have NOTHING whatsoever to do with being a vegan and EVERYTHING to do with being a leftwing dhimmi and moving in circles assocciated with the left which,as we all know here,are riddled with islamic extremists.
Yet again the MSM goes for the wrong label.
Instead of reproting the truth about the left's cosy relationship with jihadis they highlight the fact that he's a vegan.
The world of the media truly is back to front.
Veganism is one of many subcultural features that lie within the shade of the penumbra of the amorphous nebula of Gnostic Leftism. This doesn't mean that every vegan is a Gnostic Leftist; it does mean, however, that a disproportionate number of them are, while many others of them are naive fellow travelers and enablers.
P.S.: Gnostic Leftists hate the West and tend to whitewash Islam, at best, or downright support Islam, at worst. Proportionately, there are far more Gnostic Leftists within the mainstream Left, than there are Gnostic right-wingers within the mainstream Right. I.e., the center of the Left is more diseased than is the center of the Right.
Television:
I agree many are deluded naive fellow travellers and politically and historically inept,I remain a lone wolf because of this and have no friends to speak of.
Certainly none on the "left".
I've been ostricised by my girlfriends family who are rampant lefties and used to work with Bertrand Russell who was no fan of the religious but the left still gets all cosy with them.
I wonder what he would say today?..Anyway veganism is about not harming any living creature and having as low an enviromental impact on the planet as possible.
The gnostic leftist debate is just semantics.
I'm offend at being labelled a "subculture" I shall now go and demonstrate and demand the beheading of butchers everywhere..:)."joke"
I couldn't care less what people label me because I dont harbour a guilt complex like most nor do I suffer from narcissistic personality disorder or have acute obessive compulsive disorder like most muslims.
I'm a good guy who doesn't kill or contribute to killing but that's another debate.
The media latched on to this guy's veganism in order to skirt round the islamist angle..THATS what pisses me off most.
As far as i'm concerned islam is a death cult and many of it's followers engage in cruel practice towards animals and of course infidels.
I've lived in a prodominantely muslim area most of my life and can attest to their abject fear of any living creature and nature in general.
Every garden exept mine is now totally concreted over.
It's pathological.
I also own a rather insane black dog and just walking with her to the park can be comical to see grown men cowering and walking into on-coming traffic to avoid a soppy dog..
Of course she is "najis" but this is the U.K. we love our dogs so it's tough shit.
Where did they develop their phobias and OCD towards almost every living creature?
The Koran of course.
The reprting of Pim Fortuyns murder was another case of the MSM using a smoke screen because they are cowards.
ovinesongs,
Of course the pro-Muslim attitude of Pim's assassin is more important than his veganism, but my point was that the veganism is not unrelated to that attitude.
Interesting your mention of Muslims covering their gardens with concrete. Maybe they're afraid of insects? It's probably something less logical, rooted in some obscure hadith? I don't think it's necessarily Islamic to have an antipathy to plants or gardens, if you consider the history of Islam with Sultans having lavish gardens, etc.
TV
While a disproportionate number of Vegans may well be pro-Islamic to one degree or another, the ironic aspect of this is that vegan is as far as one could be to the concept of "halal" meats.
ovinesongs
Despite being a non-vegetarian, I agree with you. For the media to describe an assassin as a vegan is as useful as describing Hitler as a vegetarian, which he was. His vegan choices, though one of the many attributes of a Leftist extremist, had little to do in itself with his support for Islam for the reason I mention above - their treatment of animals should make any normal person, let alone a vegan, cringe.
One cure for all pro-Islamic vegans everywhere would be to force them to witness live the slaughter of animals at a mosque - halal style. Their revulsion at this would hopefully make them more critical of Islam, and in that process, make them more aware of the other evils that pervade Mohammed's global cult.
Infidel Pride,
The illogicality of vegans supporting a culture that brutally slaughters animals is just one of numerous similar paradoxes of the strange bedfellowship between Leftists and Muslims (others involving women's rights, gay rights, freedom of expression, agnostic/atheistic worldview, blasphemous insouciance about the meaning of life, fun & humor & casual sex as the most important things in life, etc. -- all of which are sacrosanct in Leftism but evil to their Muslim "brothers and sisters").
I'd add that it's not just the brutality of halal slaughters that should turn the vegan stomach, but also the sheer numbers: millions of lambs, goats and bulls are slaughtered every year to satisfy the religious requirements of Muslims worldwide. It is both the cruelty of the technique as well as the sheer numbers that moved Brigitte Bardot to condemn Islam (moving Leftists, in turn, (undoubtedly many vegans among them) to condemn her for "Islamophobia" and "racism"). Personally, I'd rather be bedfellows with Brigitte Bardot :) than with Leftists and their "brothers and sisters".
To me veganism stems from compassion and has no political stance at all.
Some have argued Jesus was a vegan.
Ancient cultures in India have practiced things very close..the jains and bhuddhists for example.
For a vegan to take someones life makes me feel angry and ashamed but ultimately his motives were driven by seriously dark forces and was obviously what I like to call a "weekend warrior".
They are a certain brand and will latch on to any protest regardless of wether it's there's or not.
A useful idiot,busy bodies all of them.
When I come across them,which is rare because I avoid them I do like to point out that every Haj millions of sheep are transported from australia to mecca for ritual slaughter.
But this is all OT and basically the thread is concerning our media censorship and colusion with the jihadi's and I thought the fact of this deluded killers eating habits was clouding his twisted motives.
"I've been ostricised by my girlfriends family who are rampant lefties and used to work with Bertrand Russell"
-- from a posting above
Send them Russell's "Unpopular Essays" or "The Theory and Practise of Bolshevism" and underline the parts about Islam. Perhaps that will make an impression.
Am I wrong to assume that the admitted islamophobes on this forum (and those lurking) have sworn the Oath of an Islamophobe? If not then you aren't officially islamophobic. I recall seeing the text of the Islamophobic Oath posted on these forums a while back.
It's on the honor system but you had to stand unafraid on a busy streetcorner and recite the Oath out loud.
The Oath of an Islamophobe:
My name is (STATE YOUR NAME). I have incurable islamophobia. I have accepted my fate. Being an islamophobe is who I am. Being islamophobic is what I am. I draw my strength from it. I am comforted by it. I am at peace with it. I swear that I will resist conversion to islam until I draw my very last breath. For I too plan on being one of the last.. Infidels.. standing.
Initiate conversation by wearing buttons such as:
"Islamophobic and Proud of it"
image at: http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2006/03/coming-soon-to-islamophobe-near-you.html
or
"Proud member of the Apes and Pigs Alliance"
image at:
http://www.bigpharaoh.com/2006/06/04/join-the-proud-alliance/
"Knowledge is everything;..."
I think JW should run brief ads on radio:
Example-
1st person-"Tired of political corectness? Try Jihadwatch.org."
2nd person-Did he say "Jihadwatch.org."?
Humm-Jihadwatch.org.
Even ads in church bulitins would be very effective in the spread of JW-DW truth. And local papers can even have the simple Jihadwatch.org. (nothing else) right next to the Saint Jude prayers. Think people don't read the prayers? Guess what-they do read them.
There's thousands of creative ways to bring people to the site. I came from after a brief conversation between Savage and Robert Spencer on WOR. I have learned much from this site.
Jihadwatch.org-Knowledge is everything.
Mike Savage reaches millions. If he mentions the site just 3x per week-they will come and learn and it will be a new ballgame.
I've bought several books noted on this site. I'm sure the people who come here are avid readers. Why not have books offered on the site? (Get a commission for books sold at the site. The money is a donation.)
Make jihadwatch a household name and the politicians will take notice. Politicians are whores. Why appeal to them? Appeal directly to the average American. Make jihadwatch as well known as the Red Cross and give Bob Dole a job.
Thank you Saint Jude, patron Saint of Lost Causes, for helping me find the truth at Jihadwatch.org.
Frank, your idea of "Tired of political corectness? Try Jihadwatch.org." is good, but simply having "Jihadwatch.org" and nothing else could confuse people who don't know this site, as they might think it's a pro-Islam website. So any blurbs about Jihadwatch.org should also include some brief tagline.
TV-
Good point. Thanks.
I'm no advertisement maven so my ideas are presented to cause others to think about ideas to get Jihadwatch wide name recognition.
I have learned much from this site. It appeals to reason-which is why its critics appeal to emotion to counter the well thought out ideas presented by the site's administrators. This is not a puppet show of name calling and people must be brought here to learn and discuss the jihad issue. That's what I think, TV. So continue to think, TV....
ovinesoungs"I've been ostricised by my girlfriends family who are rampant lefties and used to work with Bertrand Russell"
-- from a posting above
Hugh-"Send them Russell's "Unpopular Essays" or "The Theory and Practise of Bolshevism" and underline the parts about Islam. Perhaps that will make an impression. "
Her father was Bertrand's right hand man for years and the house is full of all manner of his works..
It really is pointless and I never bring any subject up anymore.
He's a tired old left wing reactionary and deaf/blind to any other arguments.
They truly have swallowed the anti-american shtick and would side with a facist islamists over one of there countrymen anyday.
Still it's very easy for them in their country idyll surrounded by all the trappings of years in politics and the obvious wealth and priveledge it brings.
To them multicultural areas are like happy theme parks and they go visit to buy things then off back to the ivory tower.
They dont see the reality of everyday life living in the "hood"
Same goes for war and Iraq in particular.
They swallow every journalistic half truth because it fits with their anti-war,anti-american stance.But you know all this.
Basically they dont like to get there hands dirty but love to tell people what to do.
This place has given me hope and your writings Hugh have inspired me to not give up.
regards