Hamas Deputy PM goes into hiding as Israel warns even Haniyeh not immune

And why should he be immune? He has waged jihad along with the rest of them. From Haaretz, with thanks to Kaosktrl:

Palestinian Deputy Prime Minister Nasser a-Shaer, who evaded capture by Israel Defense Forces troops during mass arrests of Hamas officials before dawn Thursday, has gone into hiding in the West Bank.

A-Shaer has disconnected all his cellular telephones out of fear Israeli security services would again attempt to track him down and arrest him.

The mass arrests of senior Hamas officials were part of Israel's expanded military operation against the Hamas-led government in the Palestinian Authority.

The arrests were planned several weeks ago and received approval from Attorney General Menachem Mazuz on Wednesday. The same day, Shin Bet Director Yuval Diskin presented Prime Minister Ehud Olmert with the list of Hamas officials slated for arrest.

IDF troops launched the major arrest operation against Hamas officials overnight, detaining 64 of the ruling militant group's ministers and parliamentarians in the West Bank and 23 military operatives.

The arrests took place in Ramallah, Qalqilyah, Hebron, Jenin and East Jerusalem, according to Palestinian reports. Soldiers carried arrest warrants signed by judges that were issued following cooperative preparatory work by the state prosecution and police.

On Thursday morning, National Infrastructure Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer hinted that Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh is not exempt from arrest or harm.

"No one is immune... This is not a government. It is a murderous organization," Ben-Eliezer said.

Exactly so.

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..and why should they not be executed on the spot?
why should they not be punished for their crimes?

What is the point of locking them up, feeding them, giving them medical care while being vilified by the perverted MSM who keep on blubbering about "Geneva conventions" and all kinds of hollow phrases that no Arab would ever take seriously?

What is the point in trying to uphold 'humanitarian values' while your enemy spits on you and does anything to prove you wrong>?

BAD BOY
BAD BOY
WHAT YOU GONNA DO
WHAT YOU GONNA DO
WHAT YOU GONNA DO
WHEN THEY COME FOR YOU

THUGS, terrorists, murderers should have no safe haven. The Israelis should keep the heat up. The Americans are keeping the heat up as they are increasing the number of raids and searches in Iraq and it is becoming clear that this is very effective. The Israelis, of course, have no fear of stepping into an armed camp. They should go in and clean house.

The point, Sheik, and this may be too fine a one for you, is that we remain distinguishable from them.

As it happens, Israel has, indeed, "executed" some of the snakeheads without going through the niceties of bringing them before any court of justice, Israeli or international, for that matter. Think of the blind co-founder of Hamas, Sheik Yassin. And likewise the late and unlamented Abu Musa Al-Zarqawi.

Some selected summary executions may be tolerated. Yassin, although not an active participant, was a major instigator of jihad terrorism and Al-Zarqawi's rap sheet is well known.

No, I think Israel is much wiser holding a large number of senior Hamasniks. It might dissuade some Hamas seconds-in-command from ordering the rank and file to do many more kidnappings and executions of their own if they think a similar fate awaits them.

War is Hell.

"No one is immune... This is not a government. It is a murderous organization," Ben-Eliezer said.

Couple that with the other mob in Damascus...and you quickly realize that a den of venomous creatures are alive and thriving.

And the usual pathetic left leaning ( death wish)dick heads of the west continue to victimize them, and demonize Israel......

Hamas are just Nazis with headscarves!

Voting terrorists into office doesn't change their criminal status. If the pallys don't want their chosen leaders executed they shouldn't elect genocidal vermin in the first place.

They should load these scum in a chopper and push 'em out one at a time from 10,000ft over Ramalah until all Israelis are released.

An historic opportunity for the Israelis to seize the world stage by playing the politics of victimhood. Hope they don't blow it by playing the bully.

Mike Tobin Fox News...The Hamas Leadership has gone into hiding.......Wait a sec....I THOUGHT THEY LOVE DEATH MORE THAN LIFE....Why are they hiding from Allahs death?....Muslims all your leaders are liars....just watch them. If I were a Muslim I would ask myself why do my leaders hide?..Why is it that top Islamic leaders almost always end up in jail....not dead...Not in Allahs heaven.....Because Muslim...They Lie to you!..Read ...find out the Truth...Mohammad was a Liar!

Israel needs to buy one of those Polynesian Islands (Marlon Brando owned one) and set up their own Gitmo. Send all these Hamas type there for some rest and relaxation.

The usual process now begins. The U.S. State Department calls for restraint, the G8 voices concerns.

I'll bet this goes on for a few days, though, and that Israel takes care of some of the Al Queada contingent that came in from Egypt.

I would just like to state that I have nothing but praise for the actions of Israel in this matter. This is the kind of backbone that the world should be showing -- these cowards use terrorist tactics and then seek to twist public opinion to their side. What are we? Blind sheep? Remove these lying, treacherous, murdering, torturing, fascist hypocrites from our shores!

I hope Israel arrest every Hamas leader in the territories. I hope they destroy every electric generator, every weapons cache, every bunker, every terrorist camp, every tunnel.

The Muslims will never stop trying to destroy the West, Israel and especially the United States, until we all break their will through force and fortitude of our own. In a perfect world, negotations and kind words would always work, but we are dealing with zealots bent on world domination with the backward beliefs of a 7th century blood cult. If we viewed Communists and Nazis as mortal enemies, then why do we hesitate to recognize the threat that Islam poses?

Do what is right.

About bloody time they kicked ass!
Lets have more attitude.

Skynews is now reporting they've got a-Shaer aswell.

Islam wins small battles everyday...and still folks argue there is no danger....Maybe Mohammad (Pig Shit cover him) was right...People are easy to fool

To a poster above:

Who says Hamas loves death more than life? Trust me, don't let them fool you . . . they love life plenty.

Hamas does not employ ITS children for 'suicide operations.' It employs some other 'Palis children' for suicide operations. This is the point linking them with Fatah. Same goes through for I. Jihad. So, the point is hypocrasy. These thugs never thought they would be arrested. Will one also sing? Maybe, for some of these thugs know where the Israeli is--unlikely alive at this point. They also are now on notice--they with their parlimentary niceties are targets and will personally suffer. Suprisingly, Israel is doint something quite intelligent in this move into Gaza.

can anyone confirm this?

Source: Reuters

GAZA, June 29 (Reuters) - A spokesman for gunmen in the Gaza Strip said they had fired a rocket tipped with a chemical warhead at Israel early on Thursday.

The Israeli army had no immediate comment on the claim by the spokesman from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed wing of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement.

The group had recently claimed to possess about 20 biological warheads for the makeshift rockets commonly fired from Gaza at Israeli towns. This was the first time the group had claimed firing such a rocket.

"The al-Aqsa Brigades have fired one rocket with a chemical warhead" at southern Israel, Abu Qusai, a spokesman for the group, said in Gaza.

An Israeli military spokeswoman said the army had not detected that any such rocket was fired, nor was there any report of such a weapon hitting Israel

if this is true the Palestinians just lost alot of support,but it is funny that they had to make a press release to say they launched chemical weapons since no one in Isreal seemed to notice.
it certainly ups the ante

biorabbi...MY Q was to Muslims....I understand the fight with Islam just fine.

I'm a little bit jealous that Isreal does this and meanwhile Osama Bin Laden and Aymen Zawahiri are still out there somewhere making their "audio tape of the month" recordings and the U.S. can't go into Pakistan and grab them or grab their relatives in Egypt/S.A. or grab anyone for that matter.

Ohe well, I guess we have to wait and savor their capture when it happens.

during mass arrests of Hamas officials before dawn Thursday, has gone into hiding in the West Bank.

Israel now has it's own hostages to use as bargaining chips with Hamas. Jews do not take hostages. This is a cowardly form of warfare. But Muhammad conducted war this way and his adherents have proudly emulated this down through the centuries.

So now the Israeli Jews fight fire with fire. This is how you deal with Muhammad's feral cult

Sorry folks, i disagree with Olmert's response to the attack, murders and kidnapping.
Israel suffered a loss when the palestinians successfully attacked the military group; in a war you suffer losses and defeats, even on the way to victory. To turn a minor defeat into this major military effort is a sign of frustration and impotence.

Chemical attack confirmed. Reuters

Also some reports of Israeli Soldiers cordoning off a village in Israel. Soldiers were seen to be wearing Chemical & Biological Warfare suits.
Call from a friend in Tel Aviv is my source, maybe MSM will reveal soon.

This looks like more than a mere response to a soldiers kidnapping and if confirmed would justify any response.

I just read that Churchill. If it's true and the idiot muslims used chemical weapons, Israel should bomb Palestine until there is nothing left but rubble.

"Sorry folks, i disagree with Olmert's response to the attack, murders and kidnapping.
Israel suffered a loss when the palestinians successfully attacked the military group; in a war you suffer losses and defeats, even on the way to victory. To turn a minor defeat into this major military effort is a sign of frustration and impotence."
From above


This is a joke right? What War College is teaching "Oh Well, I Guess We Had That One Coming" - 101?! (Okay maybe the French are teaching that course)

I guess the proper course of action would be to, get real mad, send them a terse letter and negotiate. Lord knows that the palis are trustworthy negotiators (that is a joke)

The Sydney Morning Herald is also reporting the WMD attack.

http://xrl.us/WMDS

The IDF should show no mercy, the members of Hamas who have been arrested should be tried for war crimes and then executed.

The IDF should then go house to house through the Gaza strip and West Bank to find the rest of the cache.

Churchill1938,

Do you have a link to the Reuters story?

Let the world know: We are not hiding because we are fraidy cats, but because we enjoy playing hide and seek.

Signed.
The Mighty Mighty Palestinian High Council of Slaughterers of Women and Children Hide and Seek Wing.

"I just read that Churchill. If it's true and the idiot muslims used chemical weapons, Israel should bomb Palestine until there is nothing left but rubble."

Well, I don't understand who is trying to destory the other: the Israelis or the the Pals?

A Q: Isn't Israel a terrirost state? How can you explain all the killing its doing; killing the children, women etc...

If you think they deserve it, think again.

If you say Hammas are terrirosts, then who's Sharon? Was not he the commander of Sabra and Shatilla genocides? Don't brag about Hammas saying that they want to destroy Israel cos all the above posts are willing to do the same to the Pals!

I mean common, Israel was created by a group of gangs supposrted by the West and it's still so but in a new way!

The only media report on the chemical-tipped warhead attack I can find at Reuters is the same one that showed up on Drudge last night (and the same as the Sydney Herald)

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2006-06-29T013909Z_01_L29258645_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-ROCKET.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

From the NEAL BOORTZ commentary:

ISRAEL CRACKS SOME HEADS

Ever since the Islamic terrorist group Hamas took over in the Palestinian territories, things have steadily gone downhill between Israel and the now Islamic terrorist-led Palestinian people. Of course, you won't see the mainstream media in this country or any other call them terrorists. They use weasel words like "gunmen" or "militants." God forbid we should actually call somebody what they are.

So what has Israel so upset? The Islamic terrorists of Hamas have been holding an Israeli soldier for 4 days. So the tanks are rolling in and the planes flying overhead. Israeli troops are also making arrests. But the Palestinians are upset about all this. According to one of their negotiators, "I think that Israeli attempts to bargain through bombardment of power stations and bridges and arrests of parliamentarians and ministers is just adding to the complexities." Adding to the complexities? What? Aren't they the ones who took an Israeli soldier hostage? In what context is that not an act of war? Bargaining? How about this bargain? Give us our soldier back or we're going to kill a whole mess of you Islamic terrorist bastards.

The White House is responding to this by saying Israel has a right to defend itself, but should be careful about hurting civilians. All of this points out why the "Mideast peace process" is a fantasy. The only time you truly have peace is following a military victory. It's time to fully unleash Israel...and bring the terrorists in the Palestinian territories to their knees.

Once they surrender, then they can negotiate the terms of their existence. There's your peaceful end to the conflict.

NUFF SAID

Khalid,

You will get NO sympathy here not and I'm certain this board is deaf to anything you have to say from now on.

I dont care if Isreal flattens all of its Mid-East neighbors, paves them over and parks their cars above M.E. peoples graves and as a final bittersweet irony names it the "This Is Allah's Will Public Parking Lot" and I am sure most the majority of non-muslim people feel the same way.

We waited for even a hint of remorse after you attacked on 9-11 and then in Madreid and then Bali and then London.

Nothing...

Your people dont count anymore. You are standing in the way of the future.

If the muslims really did use a chemical weapon against Isreal, then geneva convention no longer applies. HAVE AT EM'BOYS!

"No one is immune... This is not a government. It is a murderous organization," Ben-Eliezer said."

Islam is what happens when a street gang takes over the government it has been growing since the slaughter in yatribe..

could it be that these chemical weapons (if true) came from the stockpiles of the WMDs that every leftie loonie said did not exist in Sadaams backyard?
The Palistinians have clearly demonstrated they do not want peace and are unwilling to even try.
If its war they want, Israel has no choice but to give to them.

Hamas approves of violence.

I say, let Israel approve them right back.

We waited for even a hint of remorse after you attacked on 9-11 and then in Madreid and then Bali and then London.

Nothing...

Your people dont count anymore. You are standing in the way of the future.

GreatShaitan,

Why should somebody apologize for something he has not done? No one has been able to link 9/11 to an moselm country. If Ben Laden has done, he has done much more to moselm countries. So it's not our reponsiblity and so we don't need to show any remorse except that we feel sorry for what happened and sorry for the death. And by the way, almost all the moselm world condumned the bombing and helped the US financially.

What do you mean we don't count! So come and kill us, if that what you want to do.

If so, then you're a terrorist! Killing innocent people is a crime!

Truth prevail!


Chau

Waterdragon

The last thing Israel needs to do is take prisoners. They need to eviscerate the entire leaderships of Hamas, Fatah and Islamic Jihad, as well as the sub-groups that murdered Eliyahu Asheri.

If you were lying down in bed, got bitten by a mosquito, got up and found bed-bugs, lice, ants and termites, would you restrict yourself simply to mosquitoes, and that too, try and discover the one that bit you, and kill just that? Or would you simply catch all of them and put them in a cage? If you were a cop, and the 45th street gang was responsible for a murder, would you focus just on them, but leave the 44th and 46th street gangs alone?

Nothing Israel does by way of retaliation should be surgical - they need to fumigate their entire neighborhood. It's high time that the "transfer" solution i.e. mass expulsion of Palis from Israel, Judea, Samaria and Gaza to Jordan, Egypt and Syria was carried out.

Khalid

GreatShaitan is right. Cry me a river, Pali boy. Israel is simply doing what you "people" want - sending you to meet your raisins. Bon voyage.

I'm glad that Israel is at least able to see that they are at war, if not the broader implications of the global jihad taking place. The simple fact of the matter is that Hamas, who controls the PA, took part in the attack on Israeli soldiers on sovereign Israeli ground. This was a government sanctioned act of war, cut and dry. Israel is now at war with the proto-state of "Palestine." Its good to see that their leaders at least can understand this much , even if the rest of the dhimmi west cannot.

-Sadaam's Iraq wmd's
-wmd's moved to syria for safekeeping
-syria's troops protecting hamas thugs
-hamas is iran's proxy thugs
-chemical attack (if true, not known and verified yet) on Israel


-means what?

forget the iran part, i was confusing hamas w/ hesbollah

"Killing innocent people is a crime!"
from a posting above.
As far as I'm concerned anyone who follows the teachings of the hate manual of Islam is,by definition, not innocent. Muslims, no matter where in the world they live, cannot get along with their neighbors. They cannot even get along with other muslims. Wake up, people, muslims living in non muslim countries are not there to assimilate, but to breed until their numbers are suffficient to dominate. They cannot serve two masters.

Q: Why should somebody apologize for something he has not done? No one has been able to link 9/11 to an moselm country.

A: U.A.E. and S.A, sponsors of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. Afganistan shelters bin Laden, etc.

Q: If Ben Laden has done, he has done much more to moselm countries. So it's not our reponsiblity and so we don't need to show any remorse except that we feel sorry for what happened and sorry for the death.

A: Muslim remorse, like dancing in joy in the streets of Palestine after 9-11? Or Abu Bakrs "consoling" the victims of the Bali bombings by calling their families to join the very cult that killed them?

Q: And by the way, almost all the moselm world condumned the bombing and helped the US financially.

A: With stipulations that the U.S. acknowledge it deserved 9-11 and so you were told by NYC's Mayor Giuliani to keep your check.

Q: What do you mean we don't count! So come and kill us, if that what you want to do.

If so, then you're a terrorist! Killing innocent people is a crime!

A: Pot. Kettle. Black.

No thanks! I will never go to the Middle East and I will never associate with a muslim. But I will let natural selection weed muslims out of the gene pool.

From now on I will follow the official US policy and no longer deal with terrorists, and so ends our disgustions, Khalid.

GreatShaitan,
They just don’t get it.
We won’t play the sucker anymore.
http://www.peanutscollectorclub.com/football.html
And if we did get an apology?
Not accepted!

Foehammer,

Once again, very well stated and to the point.

I agree 100%.

Kahlid, you've been drinking too much islam spiked kool-aid.

Israel is NOT a terrorist state. I know islam warps young minds and fills them with hate.

Muslims are filled with hate and are blinded to everything else in the world.

Of all the problems in the world, I'd say almost a hundred percent is due to islam. How does it feel to know people think of muslims "religion" with disdain? When you people become civilized, treat your women better, stop teaching your children to hate, stop your terrorism, beheadings, stonings and other atrocities , maybe you can live in peace with the rest of the world.

Palestinian Deputy Prime Minister Nasser a-Shaer better hide well. Every last Israeli commander has his picture in hand. On the back it says, simply, "coward."

Well, Khalid, salahudin the lionhearted, this is what will happen when we come get you, as you urge. All the brazen, loud-mouthed defiance and threats will turn to silence. You will disconnect your cell phones, unplug your computers, and hide.

But someday, there will be nowhere to hide.

Interesting opinions! However, if the Hamas idiots did use Chemical weapons then they have sealed the death warrants of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the al-asqa Fools and Fatah.

The Hezbollah and Syrian suppliers will also probably be exterminated. Perhaps even the Iranian terror masters although that may take awhile ??? Who knows?

I do not believe even the Russians are ready for chemical or biological warfare to be used against them ...... and it will be, once it starts.

Let's hope that part is wrong!

Israel’s Gaza Operation is put on hold Thursday – according to DEBKAfile’s exclusive sources by a deadlocked dispute between prime minister Olmert and defense minister Peretz


Dohhh! The Israelies defeated themselves again!

http://www.debka.com/

Israel’s Gaza Operation is put on hold Thursday – according to DEBKAfile’s exclusive sources by a deadlocked dispute between prime minister Olmert and defense minister Peretz

The government in Israel is Hamas' secret weapon -- they don't need nukes!

Seems the best joke was overlooked:

"Q: And by the way, almost all the moselm world condumned the bombing and helped the US financially."

from an imbecile Mohammedan above.

I an not aware that Saudi Arabia paid for the damage done to the WTC or compensated its victims. Al Waleed tried to make a political statement about "root-causes" and Mayor Giuliani refused to take the crappy 10-million $ cheque. If I were in Giulianis position then and there I would have also kicked him in the kaftan, for this kind of agit-prop is quite insulting....

From a poste above: Sorry folks, i disagree with Olmert's response to the attack, murders and kidnapping.
Israel suffered a loss when the palestinians successfully attacked the military group; in a war you suffer losses and defeats, even on the way to victory. To turn a minor defeat into this major military effort is a sign of frustration and impotence.

Your attempt to turn this into an action based on only one incident, shows that you are out of touch with the bigger picture -- for years people have been uttering such nonsense when Israel finally reacts decisively against the constant bombings, terrorist attacks, murders, kidnappings. Such outlooks are a disease and it is your pathetic comdemnation of a just, democratic, peaceful nation that shows the real impotence: impotence of faith, will and intellect.

khalid: If you say Hammas are terrirosts, then who's Sharon? Was not he the commander of Sabra and Shatilla genocides? Don't brag about Hammas saying that they want to destroy Israel cos all the above posts are willing to do the same to the Pals!

I mean common, Israel was created by a group of gangs supposrted by the West and it's still so but in a new way...

--

Spoken like a true enemy.

"Killing innocent people is a crime!"

---

And fighting wars without a recognizable army is a crime in any civilized world. Do we just stop killing the enemy because a few "innocents" get killed?

Did we stop bombing "innocent" Germans and Japanese or did we fight to win?

Did the Germans not rape London? Did the Japanese not rape Nanking?

THIS IS WAR! Stop with the foolish notions of innocents!

Were any of those people on the planes and in the towers on 9/11 given a chance? Surely they were innocents!

Stop sniveling!

This fight has barely even begun and we are surrounded by weaklings that would drag us down in the name of purity, angelic fantasies and do-good nonsense. I'm tired of it. The biggest crime of all is not having the brains to do what we need to TODAY, instead we wait until the barbarians are at the gate and then we will see the deaths of more of our own innocents!

This is not the time for continued handwringing!

KHALID

re postponement of the Israeli attack in northern Gaza. According to the Israeli Hebrew news site, www.nfc.co.il, the attack was postponed because of pressure on Olmert from Egypt and the United States. Of course, Egypt is an enemy regardless of the "peace treaty." But what do we make of Washington's opposition, that is, that of George Bush and Condi?

The purpose of attacking in the north of Gaza is stop the shooting of rockets at Israeli villages and towns from there.

If they don't want collateral damage they should stop hiding behind their women and children and come out and fight like men instead of the cowards that they are. We don't intentially target women and children unless they are pointing a weapon at us. That's the difference between the enemy and us, they deliberatly target the innocent.

Waterdragon52:

I agree with your comments that the methods of the West must remain distinguishable from those of its enemies. The West, including Israel, stands for human rights. I admire Israeli determination and their measured, stepwise response even after provocation after provocation, murder and mayhem.

I am not overly optimistic that the measured response of the West will be understood for the restraint and display of humanity that it is. One poster, Khalid, has spouted off a series of absurdities that demonstrate some of the fractured opinion that passes for thought in the Moslem world. Nevertheless, there is the possibility yet that individuals of goodwill still exist in the Moslem world, willing to bargain in good faith even as more radical elements accuse them of blasphemy for doing so. It is a faint hope, but even so it is one worth preserving.

Syria needs to be taken down and dismantled.

The new Calipha President Jorge bin Jorge al Bush al Crawfordi will roll in from the Land of the Two Rivers and his sexy dhimmi wife and client state Israel will move from the South...

Part III.a.2 of the master plan to re-establish the caliphate will then be fulfilled. So far the Crusader-Zionist Occupying forces have been serving the new caliphate well.

Take out Syria and you choke off a good deal of the Sunni infiltration into the Land of the Two Rivers... the calipa will find the missing weapons of mass destruction as well.

Many problems solved. Other hypocrite and apostate regimes in the pan-islamic nation will see allah's will and will capitualate to the will of allah - and to El President Jorge bin Jorge al Bush al Crawfordi and soon, once again we will have a caliphate in the heart of the old empire.

Inshallah

Syria needs to be taken down and dismantled.

The new Calipha President Jorge bin Jorge al Bush al Crawfordi will roll in from the Land of the Two Rivers and his sexy dhimmi wife and client state Israel will move from the South...

Part III.a.2 of the master plan to re-establish the caliphate will then be fulfilled. So far the Crusader-Zionist Occupying forces have been serving the new caliphate well.

Take out Syria and you choke off a good deal of the Sunni infiltration into the Land of the Two Rivers... the calipa will find the missing weapons of mass destruction as well.

Many problems solved. Other hypocrite and apostate regimes in the pan-islamic nation will see allah's will and will capitualate to the will of allah - and to El President Jorge bin Jorge al Bush al Crawfordi and soon, once again we will have a caliphate in the heart of the old empire.

Inshallah

Arab anger flares, oooh! scary kids...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/ISRAEL_ARAB_VIEW?SITE=7219&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-06-29-14-46-12

How dare the Yahood defy us? How dare the Kafir interrupt a perfectly halal kidnapping!

A few thoughts:

-The folks who voted Hamas into office, what do they think about that decision now?
-It seemed like just yesterday we told them we were cutting of aid (we really just cut back) who will pay to replace the bridges, water, electricity and the un-important things like government officials?
-Just how long can an area that size go without power and water before riots erupt in the streets? I’d guess we will find out the answer to that one shortly.
-Are the palestinians intelligent enough to realize Israel is holding back?
-why are not all of allahs brave warriors rushing to help (scared to face pissed off Israels is my guess) and muslim governments meeting to decide how to help rebuild and not meeting to whine to the UN?

What would we say to Israel? I would say, good work, keep up the pressure and show them what real power is. I am impressed both with your success and your restraint.

Well according to Jihad for Dummies the reason all of allahs brave warriors aren't rushing to help is because their governments are run by pro West strong men who are put in place by the Zionist-Crusaders and those evil leaders are keeping them from crossing the borders to "do the Jihad."

It couldn't be that their pro-west leaders would want to keep them from going off all reckless like to have their asses shot off, could it? Nah, that's not evil enough

Ever get the feeling these guys would view a fence that has a sign that reads "Danger Keep Out High Voltage DO NOT TOUCH! Deady for you I means really, really bad man!" as a Zionist-Crusader plot?

The children! The Children!!!

What about the children?

Lets not forget for one moment that Mohammedans DO NOT share our values. They breed for jihad, it is the highest, the greatest thing to have a 'martyr' in the family and the reward is instant, in form of money and a "victory"-celebration...

The tears and the whole boogaloo is switched on for the western audience, who sees children in a completely different light!

Children yes: Lets care about Children, OUR children!!!

Sheik, it will be a long time before they love their children more than they hate the Jews. They've bred hate into their DNA. It may take several generations to breed it out.

Until then....they just have future jihadists.

But you're right about only loving their children while someone is watching.

Children yes: Lets care about Children, OUR children!!!

Posted by: sheik yer'mami

Great point when they ask that question show them the pictures of their babies dressed as suicide bombers with the spiffy hamas headband. Israel saved them money and explosives, again they should thank them.

Did anyone else in Britain see the 'News At Ten' report on Israel's military operation this evening? The dhimmi reporter have the shamefaced nerve to repeat the recent blood libel about the Palastinian family on the beach being blown up by an IDF missile, despite the fact that we all know by now that these people were wiped out by PALASTINIAN ordnance.

Is it just my imagination, or is ITN becoming even worse that the BBC for outright, undiluted anti-semitism? My glimpses of their recent output (on the odd occasion when I can steel myself enough to actually look at it) seems to suggest that they are.

"has gone into hiding...."
-- from the story above

Just like the Occulted Imam of yore. Whole lot of occultation going on.

From Khalid:

""I just read that Churchill. If it's true and the idiot muslims used chemical weapons, Israel should bomb Palestine until there is nothing left but rubble."

Well, I don't understand who is trying to destory the other: the Israelis or the the Pals?

A Q: Isn't Israel a terrirost state? How can you explain all the killing its doing; killing the children, women etc...

If you think they deserve it, think again.

If you say Hammas are terrirosts, then who's Sharon? Was not he the commander of Sabra and Shatilla genocides? Don't brag about Hammas saying that they want to destroy Israel cos all the above posts are willing to do the same to the Pals!

I mean common, Israel was created by a group of gangs supposrted by the West and it's still so but in a new way!"

Khalid, so whats the problem. You say Israel is just a bunch of terrorists or founded by terrorists. You don't say much for the Palis--but lets assume there just nice guys who care about life and allah but were turned into 'freedom fighters' by the evil Israelis.

Ok, I see your point. So whats wrong with a little rumble? Instead of this faux PA leadership of Shoah deniers like Abbas--what's wrong with Hamas--calling a spade a spade as they say!

On another topic, Khalid, why are the sons of Hamas not suicide bombers? After all, if being a Shahid is good enough for Abdullah, why isn't it good enough for the sons and daughters of Hamas. Khalid, enlighten me, something doesn't seem kosher to me.

Khalid, how do ya feel about all those Arab countries standing by while the IDF is kicking some ass(easy kicking I might add). Not to impugn the courage of Muslim Arabs! Perish the thought! But there seems to be a lot of hiding and not helping the Pali bretherin. All those Arabs and there only good at killing themselves and innocents or running away. What would allah say?

Israel you have the right and the responsibility to protect your citizens and country. Be informed that the majority of Americans are behind what you are doing.

give em hell Israel.

Biorabbi

Khalid is a Jihadists who wants the Islamic side to win. His questions are rhetorical, and shouldn't be answered seriously. The only point worth noting is its strong parallels to those of Left-wing peaceniks who either draw a moral equivalence between Israel and the Jihadists, or expect Israel to turn the other cheek. The evidence that their stands happens to be mirrored by the Jihadists should be enough to convince at least the genuinely confused among them why their stand is self-defeating.

As for those Leftists who actively support the Jihad, they are in good company.

Yes, I know Khalid and his ilk too well. My querrys about Arab bravery and courage and the brave sons of Hamas being educated in the West while the 'suicide bombers' are often half-wit retards is also rhetorical; and hopefully designed to cause his blood pressure to rise. For a nice bitch slap of truth right between the eyes is just what we need now and then.

If they democratically elected a Fascist Hamas governmet then they all take collectively the consequences of their damn free choice. Hitler was also elected democratically and the Germans were made to suffer collectively for it.
It is pathetic, Israel being accused of ... crimes against Palis. Israel has managed to demolish Hamas governmet in just 2 days. If they had wanted to wipe out this pathetic "Palestinian" nation they could have done this 58 years ago. They did not, paying the highest price in thousands of Israeli lives. PA cannot even get rid of rubbish without the help of Israel and they want their own state? One thing is certain - NOT my money will finance this!

Has anyone seen confirmation of the Chemical weapon use by Hamas idiots? Reuters is just as honest and reliable as the "Jihadist" Terrorist propaganda channel.... the Satanic controlled al-Jazeera.

In other words.... NOT RELIABLE at all!

"But you're right about only loving their children while someone is watching"
freewoman, so true. They also use their beloved children as human shields. Cowards.
jihadis must be shaking in their shoes now. Brave Israel, don't listen to ANYONE telling you to hold back. You've got 'em now.

Al-Aksa claims chemical capabilities
"We will surprise you with our new weapons the moment the first soldier sets foot in the Gaza Strip."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885848200&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Kille 'em all, let God sort it out.

I would like to just point out a little something. If it turns out that Hamas DOES possess chemical weapons, then just think about that for a minute.

Old Rumor: Saddam smuggled chemical weapons and other WMD into Libya and Syria prior to the outbreak of the war.

Syria comes to the protection of Hamas.

Suddenly Hamas is claiming they have chemical weapons.

Former Iraqi chemical weapons?

Think about it.

Co-incidentally, the U.S. stock market had its best one day gain since 2003, gaining 3% of its value.

West Shows Spine & Stocks Improve?

"It is a murderous organization"
- from the article

"And what do we call a murderous organization boys and girls?" the teacher asks.
"A gang," says one from the back.
"The Mob," says another.

"What would be the goal of those kinds of organizations?" she asks.
"Money," says the red headed kid up front.

Again the teacher probes, "What if the murderous organization is a nation or a state? What would we call that?"
The class looked at each other as if it had never happened, couldn't happen.
Finally, the class brainiac spoke up and said, "The enemy," knowing it was not the right answer but feeling she must take a stab at it.

"And what would be the goal of that "enemy?" she asks directly to the brainiac.

"Power," she said, "what else could it be?"

"And what if the murderous organization believed they were doing god's work? What would we call that?" she asks.
"A cult," says the class in unison.

"Very good," the teacher says with pride.

Biorabbi....

I didn't know Rabbi's went around bitch slapping people. Is that some kind of new 'Secret Handshake'?

I imagine in a few days we will hear from the Mo Propagada Machine that Gaza City is the new Stalingrad.

But I think not.

Lol! Yeah, Stalingrad.

Except, the Wehrmacht was made up of real soldiers who wore uniforms and knew how to fight other real soldiers. Not chickencrap little cowards who targeted teenaged girls and old men. Even the SS wasn't afraid to show up on the battlefield. The Arabs in Gaza, Samaria, and Judea are nothing better than cockroaches, scurrying under the 'fridge when the homeowner enters the kitchen and flips on the light.

And yes, SCV, I know it wasn't you making the comparison.

Khalid, or whatever that Mo's name really is says that whomever would attack the land of the pali's are terrorists too.

Truth is, the word is getting out, more and more.

Mark Levin, the talk show host, said he is going to expose some facts about islam next week. To let America know what she is up against.

A uniformed military officer/analyst on Fox tuesday admitted that islam is not a religion of peace (though he added a caveat about being cornered, which is somewhat weaselly, but yet braver than in the past).

Note to Mos and their sympathizers:
The MSM doesn't show pissed off Americans, or westerners in general, raging in the streets every week. That doesn't mean we're asleep.
Mo's call "infidels" pigs and apes or some other subhuman name and expect better treatment from us than they give.
Hve any idea what Backlash really looks like?
You have no freakin idea, but soon....

"who will pay to replace the bridges, water, electricity and the un-important things like government officials?"

I fear that we, the dhimmi westerners, will pay for it.
No doubt the collective rabble of the reject dregs of Arab societies known as "Palestinians", are already drooling in anticipation of all the sympathy "rebuilding" jizzya coming their way.

Anyone else see a similarity between the "Palestinians" denied access to Egypt by Egyptian troops lining the border and chained slave infantry in medieval batles.
Islam wants the "Palestinians" exactly where they are, on the front line fighting the evil Joooos.

Egypt denies Palistinians as do most other Muslim countries. Seems everyone knows a malignacy when they see one. After all, Palistinians are but a large group of displaced Arabs unwanted, even by their own people.The Palistinians have been know to attact in Egypt. I,Too , would want to keep people know to be murderers, rapists, extortionists and otherwise just plain mean out of my territory (no matter what the cost). Egypt has been guilty of paying Jiszah to the Palistinians and they want more. They are getting mad. MiniMO might want to keep an eye on MiniPal.

"Egypt denies Palistinians as do most other Muslim countries. Seems everyone knows a malignacy when they see one. After all, Palistinians are but a large group of displaced Arabs unwanted, even by their own people.The Palistinians have been know to attact in Egypt. I,Too , would want to keep people know to be murderers, rapists, extortionists and otherwise just plain mean out of my territory (no matter what the cost). Egypt has been guilty of paying Jiszah to the Palistinians and they want more. They are getting mad. MiniMO might want to keep an eye on MiniPal.

Posted by: exsgtbrown"

Back again!
I never thought I'd provoke so many people by expressing my opinion! (By the way i passed by this website accidently and I was shocked to read the post and the commonts and how aggressive and untrue are they).

I have been accused of being many things: a terrirost, evil, devil, etc... as if you really know any thing about me. This tells alot about how judgmental you are here.

I also noticed that most of what people here say or think are not really based on evidence or knowledge. It seems as if many people hear things and come here and dictate them without knowing about what they are really taking about. For example, many people here accused Islam of not being a religion of peace and of being a heresy etc...; and I'm damn sure no one has ever tried to read the translation of the meaning of the Holy Koran! Or any other sources written by moslems for that matter. So guys, my advice to you is don't beleive any/every thing you hear without doing some little research about it. You have the benefit of doubt; you should not forget that!

I too noticed that with two posts, I have shaken many, so to speak, facts many people here are beleiving in! I'm addressing people in the US or the West in aprticular here cos they have the right to know the two sides of the story; not merely the Israeli's part which is fully supported by the media in the US. Media is always bais, neve forget that as well!

Now, somebody here posted the following:
"Egypt denies Palistinians as do most other Muslim countries. Seems everyone knows a malignacy when they see one. After all, Palistinians are but a large group of displaced Arabs unwanted, even by their own people.The Palistinians have been know to attact in Egypt. I,Too , would want to keep people know to be murderers, rapists, extortionists and otherwise just plain mean out of my territory (no matter what the cost). Egypt has been guilty of paying Jiszah to the Palistinians and they want more. They are getting mad. MiniMO might want to keep an eye on MiniPal.

Posted by: exsgtbrown"

I know the arab and moselm countries are guilty for not condumning what Israel is doing and guilty for not taking an action against it. Our governenments suck and everybody knows it.

For the part that said: "After all, Palistinians are but a large group of displaced Arabs unwanted", I hope this is a jock cos i'm laughing right now. The Palistinians are but displaced arabs? They have been living in Palistine for hunderads and hunderads of yours. I think what you wanted to say was the Isralis are but a punch of people who are displaced since most, if not all, of them have other passports cos they have been in the Middle East for how long? 10 years, 20, 30 or even 50? So have somethime to think about this fact!

I'll come back to reply to some points made above later!

Chau

Hamas beat into submission - offers Israel kidnapped soldier...

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/7610.html