Hamas: Islam will conquer US and Britain

Did they mention Rome because Italy has soldiers in Iraq, or because they're still living in the far past?

Terror apperas to have paid, but at best only modestly for Hamas. It's hard to determine exactly how much of Israel's motiviation to evacuate from Gaza can be attributed to acts of terrorism and how much was internal and external pressure to "make peace" with the Palestinians.

I think we need to see how things unfold over the next while to see if this declaration of success is as premature as the MSM's recent early determination of Israel's culpability in the Gaza Beach story.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Israel evacuated the Gaza strip as a gesture as to their sincerity of achieving a peace settlement with the Palestinians with arm twisting assistance from the US and EU.

They did not run from terror.

Israel could impose a military solution on the Palestinian territories any time they want, the liars and obfuscators of the PA know this and the words of the deceased Yasser Ghalban ring hollow as one more Islamist gob on a stick lies in pieces.

This is great example of why I will never flinch. Islam is not to be bargained with.

I knew that concessions to Hamas would lead to just more Muslim aggression. It is supported by so much historical evidence, that only blind doves like Jimmy Carter could ever hope for a positive outcome from bending knee to Islam in the name of "tolerance" and "goodwill." What rubbish.

They mentioned Rome because it was the last great Western empire to crumble and much of it due to the incursions of Islam (i.e. Byzantine, Constantinople).

In other words, yes, they are still living a past we don't relate to because the jihad has never stopped!

I hope everyone reading this understands the implications.

Just another P. C. and Muslim trick call those who fight Islam bigots. Islam is not a Person or a Race of People. Islam is not a country. Muslims are Arab, German, American or From Many many countrys..Islam is a way of life an Idea...You can call me a bigot all day long...FDR was not a Bigot for fighting Nazi Germany..Fighting Slavery..Does not make one a Bigot!.........."We will rule the nations, by Allah's will, the USA will be conquered, Israel will be conquered, Rome and Britain will be conquered…....( Islam speaks!

The video is a collection of statements by Hamas terrorist leader, Yasser Ghalban, killed last week by Palestinians, in the ongoing internal fighting.

Good deal.

After watching his statements I'm glad Fatah (I presume) chose to get rid of him.

This is terrifying news! We should immediately beg them to accept a large increase in the jizya. We should also admit several million more poor, oppressed Palestinians to the United States and provide them with cash stipends, housing, medical care, and an appropriate number of mosques. (Perhaps they would be gracious enough to accept the conversion of existing church buildings into mosques - it's worth a try.)

Oh, never mind, we're already doing all of that aren't we? Well, we must just do more!

Don't worry, be happy!

Islamis a religion of peace!

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

Allahu akbar!

Hey, John Howard, where you at now?

Gee...does anyone know who I can make a contribution to these noble Palestinians and their glorious, HAMAS lead government! Why we Westerners should just be tripping over ourselves right now trying to find better ways of throwing more cash at them! I wonder if the IRS offers a tax deduction for such noble causes?

We fought Nazi Germany without killing all the Germans...But I guess we dont have the Guts to call Islam the enemy now. The Koran is a book of War...Islam is at war with us...I pray for all Sane people...NOT LIVING IN THE TWILIGHT ZONE!

"Just as the Jews ran from Gaza, the Americans will run from Iraq and Afghanistan ..."

Just remember, no matter under what circumstances we leave Iraq, it will be portrayed as an abject retreat in the face of the unconquerable mujihadeen. And the Muslims and dhimmis will believe that and act accordingly.

The West cannot win this struggle. They simply do not have the will to win.

It's all over but the beheadings.

Don't worry, be happy!

Islam is a religion of peace!

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

Allahu akbar!

It's nice to know that Hamas have geopolitical ambitions that far exceed the conquest of Israel.

The only way to turn this around is to militarily capture Mecca & Medina, expel their Muslim inhabitants, and occupy it with Infidels, destroying the Ka'aba and Mohammed's tomb, fortify them, and let Muslim militias worldwide start heading for Saudi Arabia, and destroy them there. Once they find that they have to re-capture their "holy" cities, imposing Shariah on the West, Israel, India, Australia, Thailand or elsewhere in dar-ul-Islam will no longer be a priority.

Just remember, no matter under what circumstances we leave Iraq, it will be portrayed as an abject retreat in the face of the unconquerable mujihadeen. And the Muslims and dhimmis will believe that and act accordingly. ...by above poster

Muslims believe a lot of silly lies. They are SUCH a backward lot of people.

The problem, "freewomen", is not that Muslims (and dhimmis) believe "a lot of silly lies". The problem is that they will act on those beliefs.

It is not possible to win a war until the enemy is completely subdued and gives up all hope of resistance. Because the West will not impose such a victory upon the Muslims, the West will lose the war.

In fact, of course, the West has already lost. Its political and cultural elites have made the decision. All that's left for you to do is to take the shahadda.

Come on now, it's easy:

I testify that there is no god but Allah and that Mohammed is His prophet.

Now don your burqa and ululate!

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

Allahu akbar!

Norseman, believe me when I say ,
if I want to be miserable , I can be miserable without the aid of islam.

I am also not going to cover my cute clothes with a tarp.

If I don't bow down to my husband (who is a great guy, btw) 5 times a day, what makes you think I would a nasty pedophile?

Ain't gonna happen.

It's far more satisfying to have women bow down willingly anyway.

Your great poet Peteofi said this:

"Here is the time, now or never!
Shall we be slaves or free?
This is the question, answer!
By the God of the Hungarians we swear,
We swear to be slaves no more!"
These words were addressed to the Hungarian people, yet they speak to all people, in all times. This is the spirit that we honor today. I appreciate the opportunity to come to this great country and to celebrate the Hungarian example -- the courage, the sacrifice, the perseverance that has led to this democracy. PRESIDENT BUSH

Islam is Slavery. Freedom in America is worth fighting for. Nazi Germany was named the Enemy and we won. Islam must be named the enemy and banned in America.

And they wonder why we won't give Hamas "aid"

I'm thinking modern unbelievers as a whole suffer from the same lack of vision the original Crusaders had. The original crusaders went to the holy city of Jerusalem to remove the muslims control of the holy sites and to stop any abuse of pilgrims and the holy sites. Muslims were preventing pilgrims from getting to them and extorting and bullying them along the way.

The capture of Jerusalem might have been all the crusaders wanted to achieve but it couldn't be kept as an island in a sea of Islam. It was either the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem be destroyed or its enemy, Islam. The crusaders stopped short. they should have taken the holy sites of Islam and should have smashed the idols, pulled down the mosques, destroyed the temple of Islam in other words. To pull the weed up by the roots thus removing the 'root cause' of the troubles in the holy land. This will solve the problem and doesn't involve killing large numbers of people (directly anyway)

The mosques need to be leveled, the pillars of Islam need to be pulled down, Mohammed and his alter-ego allah need to be discredited and the proofs of all this need to be driven home to the 7th century mind.

allah is figment; a false god which can be shown to be unresponsive and ineffectual and impotent to the systematic destruction of all it is supposed to support and protect.

Prove that allah has no power nor do its slaves. We have the means to do this quite easily if we could only grasp it.

Killer-zombies like those at HAMAS don't actually KNOW anything. They are just dribbling out the garbage that was programmed into them.

'Garbage in. Garbage out.'

Americans WON'T be joining the killer-zombies on their trip down the blood-slicked highway to hell that is Islam.

My brothers and sisters, please read and inform you friends and loved ones about a danger,a danger which we and the entire world are not safe from.

There is a cult spawned from war, death and destruction, its followers, follow a man(piss be upon him), who is a proven mass murderer, lier and master of deception, he had hallucinations of receiving gods revelations.

They want to enforce their way of life on us, a way of life which is dark, sadistic and corrupt.
They will stop at nothing to achieve their primitive aims, they want to control us, and have all the power, if allowed to flourish those who dont share their beliefs will be massacred and the survivors will live as second class citizens.

They commit the most violent acts, yet are angered by any form of critisism,and respond with death and destruction.
dressed as sheeps, they are infact wolves as their actions have proved.

their followers are blinded by a false sense of supremicy, which explains their view that they are the people of peace and we are the violent ones.

their women are trapped,oppressed and treated in the most derogotary ways.
Their leader(piss be upon him) shares similarities to the anti christ as can be seen in gods true books.
Driven by arrogance, ignorance and hate they strive for global domination, and throughout history them and their ancestors have contributed nothing but oppression, lies, deceit,death, destruction, and usuary.
We all know who they are

Hamas is nothing more than the tool of satan. And because we are living in the end times, satan is making his last and final attempt at world domination.

Soon, Hamas' reign of terror will end, but not before an all-out war. In the end, Hamas, Islam, and all the puppets of satan that followed this evil cult/religion will be put to an end, and cast into hell for eternity because they rejected the Truth.

Eternity for them won't be a paradise of virgin sex slaves, but a place called the lake of fire. Relax folks, Hamas is a tooth-less lion who is all bark, but no bite. And Islam can have my head, but they will never have my heart.

sam: It is no secret...Islam is pure, unadulterated EVIL that slaughters innocent human beings as though it were adjusting window shades!!!!

I refer to it as the world's largest death squad (which is in effect what it is).

The name of this CULT is AMERICANISATION, its followers AMERICANIST, Their leader and proven Lier, Cowardly killer, and Hypocrite BUSH(PISS BE UPON HIM).
They the AMERICANIST are brainwashed by there politicians and media, thus the reason for their sense of national supremicy, and their beleifs that its the worlds thats evil not them. history annd their present actions prove different.
They are blinded by the evil thats commited in the name theIR DEMOCRATIC EXTREMIST GOVERNMENT and feel no shame for the crimes which has been commited by governments they voted for. yet a crime(which pales in comparison to what they have done, are doing) commited against them results in them stigmatising a whole religion. the americanist are the biggest hypocrites and the BUSHISM is the threat to our world.

Norseman, you have to say the shahada in classic Arabic, otherwise it dosn't count. We all know that classic Arabic is the language that is spoken in heaven of course. Of course we all know that in islam all people are equal. Its just that some people (Arabs) are more equal than others.

Blinded by their religion of hatred, they can’t possibly understand that the ‘invaders’ have no desire to occupy their land. They have no clue as to the simple fact that those of us there want nothing to do with their crap-tastic land and want nothing more than to go home to green pastures and beautiful sceneries. Eventually we will go home, but not because they were the high and mighty force of holiness that drove us out, but because we don’t want to be in their disgusting, putrid sandbox.

That said, no matter when we leave or how we leave, they’ll use their mysterious abilities of reality-warping and turn the real-life scenario around to make themselves look superior and the rest of the Muslim world, blind to the facts and stewing in their hatred for the western world, will undoubtedly believe the lies. They’ll never believe us in the propaganda war and will always believe one Muslim voice above thousands of others, no matter how filled with garbage that one voice’s message may be.

That’s exactly why we need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and while they’re dancing in the streets, handing candy out to children, shooting their rifles in the air, and proclaiming that they’ve wiped out the crusader/Zionist enemy invaders, we drop enough bombs across a strip of the Middle East to lay waste to the Islamic disease that’s infected that area for far too long. Hell, drop enough there to create the world’s largest crater, step back, and say “yeah, you wanted martyrdom and got it. You win.”

That’s the only way we’ll all win.

Pythagoras -

Sam is talking about Christians, not Muslims. On another thread he posted the SAME garbage trying to lead people into thinking that he's talking about Islam, when in fact he's talking about Christianity.

Go to June 20, and find the thread that covers the "Bodies of Missing Soldiers Recovered", and scroll down to the end of the thread. There you will find his "answer" to his stupid question under his username, Sam.

sam:

Welcome to JW. Please keep posting. You illustrate my own points with painful clarity.

From where I am sitting it looks like Islam has already conquered Britain.

http://301url.com/BritishMuslims

sam, "Americanist?" How clever, did you think of that all by yourself or did you just copy it from some silly islamist website?

Let me get this straight, you are saying that islam's only problem is the US? That dosn't seem to jive with what your brothers are doing in Somolia, Chechnia, Thailand, the Filipines, Kashmir, or just about any other place that majority muslims come into direct contact with non muslims. On the other hand, the US gets along quite well with most of the countries on the planet. When is the last time the US invaded Canada or Mexico?

Sam -

You are making a colossal FOOL of yourself, because no one in their right mind is going to fall for your toxic lies.

The truth of the matter is that Islam is the poison you just described. Islam is the tool of satan. Your prophet, Mo, was a drug addicted whoremonger with too much time on his hands. Sitting in a remote cave, smoking crack (or whatever he "used"), that's a recipe for being insane!!! Mo not only had delusions of grandeur, but he developed a mental illness that YOU, and others', have foolishly gotten sucked in to.

Sam, you are on the loosing team, and the sooner you realize it, the sooner you can stop posting your idiotic posts.

They want to conquer the world and will do so by any means necessary.
Their cities are overun by crime,drugs and disease.
Their women are bought up in an environment where they are judged by their bodies(not brains ect) the ones without the so called perfect body are driven to mental ill and suicide.
Their women have no respect for their bodies.
the americanist believe are driven by pride, arrogance and ignorance, they are brainwashed and the outcome is hypocricy, war crimes, destruction, their ideology and beliefs can best be described as Democratic christian extremism, and the DCE'S leader has hullucinations of talking to good the, enemy they describe bare striking similarites to their own statments and actions, yet the brainwashed americanist do not see this

Oh, give Sam some credit: the U.S.A. is the big problem for him and his ilk. Afterall, once we [USA] are out of the way, there's no-hold-barred on the jihad, the Islamization of the world and the stripping of human rights and freedoms from women, non-Arabs, etc. Even the Muslims that think they are going to win, the "reverts" to the religion, have no idea what awaits them if the Caliphate rules once more. I have a very eye-opening National Geographic documentary about the Hajj that shows quite clearly that racism from Muslim Arabs is rampant against Muslims of "other" origin.

You see, fascism is what it is: it accepts you as soldiers to destroy its enemies, until such time as it no longer needs you. Then the Islamo-fascists will seek out new enemies, new "devils" to remove, and that's when they will fall upon themselves and weed out the "impure." Sort of sounds like the Nazi deathcamps again, doesn't it?

It's nice to know that Hamas have geopolitical ambitions that far exceed the conquest of Israel.

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Posted by: Infidel Pride at June 22, 2006 01:18 PM

You make a good point, Infidel Pride. Noticeably missing from this particular Hamas list, is that part of Spain that Hamas's on-line kiddie jihad porn mag describes as "Al-Andaluse" in a bid to prime the young ones for the next big fight.

But oh yeah, these poor Palestinians are only crying out for justice after being force out of their ancient homeland, eh?

illustr8rgr8r - we don't have to bomb vast tracts of Middle eastern desert. Killing millions of people won't 'win' it for us.

Killing allah will.

Oh, and one point I'd like to make right now for Sam and the world at large: the United States of America has never been an Imperialist power, but make no mistake, we are quite warlike. While many of your points are invalid, some are true. You are wise to fear the United States.

The United States of America is going to destroy the hopes of the New Caliphate. And we're going to do it by force because that is the only option left to us.

So I predict. Mark down the time and day if you'd like.

They want to conquer the world and will do so by any means necessary.
Their cities are overun by crime,drugs and disease.
Their women are bought up in an environment where they are judged by their bodies(not brains ect) the ones without the so called perfect body are driven to mental ill and suicide.
Their women have no respect for their bodies.
the americanist believe are driven by pride, arrogance and ignorance, they are brainwashed and the outcome is hypocricy, war crimes, destruction, their ideology and beliefs can best be described as Democratic christian extremism, and the DCE'S leader has hullucinations of talking to good the, enemy they describe bare striking similarites to their own statments and actions, yet the brainwashed americanist do not see this
Posted by: sam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:32 PM

Sounds exactly like the umma to me, just replace americanist with Islamist and his inane statement begins to make sense.

Methinks Sam doth project too much.

US_Infidel, don't forget the third kind of muslim (which more or less encompasses the first two types you mentioned): 3. Those who breed like rats. Demographic conquest is at least as important in their campaign, and alot more effective, than either taqyia or jihad.

Methinks Sam doth project too much.
Posted by: Know Your Enemy [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:41 PM

LOL :-)

i was not talking about christianity, i was talking about Democratic christian extremist( a deveint sect of christianity)

The biggest problem is Americas plan for global domination.
There is also the threat of muslim extremist.
this threat has multiplied, due to the BUSH not accecpting that the reasons for 9/11 were tangible(ie, support of israel, and bases in muslim land) by saying that al qaeda's reasons were intangible(i.e they hate our way of life) bush showed his lack of repsect for his followers, and confirmed that he was a lier. this along with the heinus war crimes in iraq and the obvious lies leading up to it, along with the double standard, deceit and hypocricy on behalf of your media, politician and people like your selves, has increase the terrorist threat.

sam, do you eat green eggs and ham?

Anyone ever see the Monty Python episode
"How to Ppot a Loon?"

"Salvation will come from the Bible Belt, from people of faith, from conservatives, from home-schooled, principled, courageous, uncompromising individuals." -- from above posting

Interestingly enough, I heard a theory yesterday that rang true -- because Islam is so zealous, so cultist, so dogmatic, so fundamentalist -- the world is going to see a growth in the same zealous mindset in other world religions (true religions, I should say), and this will help bolster the needed opposition to Islam. I already see evidence of this on television and in daily life.

The harder Islam pushes, the more enemies it will create. The hubris of the mullahs will be the undoring of the Islamic dream: they believe the infidel is weak and distracted and fooled right now. This is why they suddenly have the "courage" to start acting and spend billions of dollars on propaganda and building mosques in Western nations. Unfortunately, the infidels are aware now. The alarm bells are sounding. We are not what the Muslims (i.e. Sam) want to believe we are. What we really are is something they would be wise to never want to really confront, but then, Muslims have never been very good at learning lessons from history, so the mistake is to be expected.

Hear that drumbeat? That's the awakening of millions of Americans, Canadians, Australians, British, French, Germans, et al to the TRUTH about Islam.

I'm getting confused now. If Israel "runs from terror" by pulling out (rightfully or wrongfully), then the terrorists have won because Israel let them. Israel should stand firm and not give ground.

If America "runs from terror" by pulling out of Iraq (rightfully or wrongfully), then the terrorists have won because America let them. But if America stays put, we're wasting blood and treasure and stopping the Islamists from killing each other instead of us. America should stand firm/retreat to higher ground.

I'm confused now, which is it? Obviously America and Israel are a little different and are in slightly different situations, but the analogy I am trying to draw is that the proposed reasoning behind each countrys' decision is the same... that doing X gives the Islamists Y. For Israel, I feel JW advocates not giving ground, while for America, I feel JW advocates high-tailing it out at this point and letting the jihad-free-for-all begin.

My question now, I guess, is why? Why does the same reasoning produce different conclusions for the two?

Reminds me of a previous poster on this site awhile back who said, "George Bush says al-Qaeda wants to turn many Islamic nations into one. George Bush has decided to keep Iraq, which is ostensibly 3 Islamic nations, as one. Is George Bush on al-Qaeda's side?" or something to that effect.

I'd be most appreciative if Mr. Spencer or Mr. Fitzgerald would take the time to give me a little insight on this topic. Maybe I've got it all wrong somehow.

How to Spot a Loon :)

Sam seems to think the west are all brainwashed, well check this fine piece of Islamofascist brainwashing perpetrated on Muslim children.

http://xrl.us/Muslimchildabuse

What do you have to say to that sam, not very much I bet, because when koranimals are shown the truth they tend to runaway and seethe in a corner.

Well OK, "freewoman", I'll bend a bit and not insist on the burqa. But will you still ululate for me?

P.S. Ignore the rantings of "Foehammer". He is but an infidel who knows not that of which he speaks.

Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!

The problem with Sam's (or more likely Samir's) assertion that the only resistors of the global jihad are this before unknown group known as "Americanists," and their only impetus in opposing the jihad is their own aspirations for global domination, is that many on this site who oppose the global jihad are non Americans. I know for a fact we have Israelis, Indians, British, Irish, all manner of Europeans, and probably some Africans and East Asians as well.

norseman,
you parody Dubya's name as Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush.
As your reward, I'll tell you bushah and bosh mean in Hebrew. They mean shame, disgrace, and the like. So you could call him Prez Bushah.

The biggest problem is Americas plan for global domination.
There is also the threat of muslim extremist.
this threat has multiplied, due to the BUSH not accecpting that the reasons for 9/11 were tangible(ie, support of israel, and bases in muslim land) by saying that al qaeda's reasons were intangible(i.e they hate our way of life) bush showed his lack of repsect for his followers, and confirmed that he was a lier. this along with the heinus war crimes in iraq and the obvious lies leading up to it, along with the double standard, deceit and hypocricy on behalf of your media, politician and people like your selves, has increase the terrorist threat.
Posted by: sam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:44 PM

So America is responsible for a 1400 year campaign of violent Jihad by Muslims to spread Islam throughout the world. You really are a misinformed antiAmerican bigot sam.

The simple fact of the matter is Islam declared war on the rest of the world centuries ago, this is just the latest phase of the ongoing struggle. Your appologetics for the Islamofascists makes you as bad as them.

Km, just watched the video.

They left out the rapes and beatings of the girls. The beheadings. I wonder who the girl with the beard in the wheelchair was supposed to be.

Shame on islamics for their child abuse. Where is the human rights orgs? It's no wonder muslims are a dependant people. They need to stress the three R's instead of bomb making, weapon carrying, stomping, dead pedophile worshipping koranic 101. No wonder they so backward.

But back to the topic at hand, we need to make this video known as far and wide as possible. I think that the election of Hamas is actually a positive developement. No longer can "rogue" palestinian militias carry out terror attacks, while the complicit weasels of the PA whine and cry that they cannot be held responsible for attacks carried out by militias outside their authority. Now that Hamas is in power, how can the PA not be responsible when Hamas terrorists carry out an attack? These attacks can no longer be considered criminal terrorist acts, but instead should be viewed as government sanctioned acts of war.

P.S. Ignore the rantings of "Foehammer". He is but an infidel who knows not that of which he speaks.

Posted by: Norseman [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 02:59 PM

I am sure Foehammer doesnt need me to stick up for him, but Norseman you have been called out several times in the past for being a Muzzie quisling.

Go pedal your filfth elsewhere.

Ululating is DEFINITELY a way to run people away from you. It's very annoying. It sounds like a turkey farm at feeding time.

Ooops.....Norseman, is that y'alls mating call?

Guess it wasn't Allah's will for that piece of pigshit to live much longer after making that video. Good riddance.

@sam: At least we "americanists" can form a coherent sentence.

SAM,

Thanks for the inspiration. Sounds like Bush is getting to ya, huh?

From a posting above:

"..Where is the human rights orgs..."

The 'human rights org's' are bought and sold by & to Mohammedan interests, you could see that when a Bangladeshi Irene Khan did her little agit-prop about "Gulag-Gitmo"... just like the UN, this ridiculous, corrupt construct with an equally corrupt & incompetent African at the helm, Amnesia Intentional lost all legitimacy and has become a sick joke.

Km, just watched the video.

They left out the rapes and beatings of the girls. The beheadings. I wonder who the girl with the beard in the wheelchair was supposed to be.

Posted by: freewoman [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 03:07 PM

I believe that was the infants 'PG' matine, the more sexually orientated interpretations of Islamic doctrine are shown later in the day and given a 12 certificate. The mooslimes do have some sensibilities you know. ;-)

The truth of the matter is that 6 million Muslims leave Islam a year. So in truth Hamas has got things all wrong. Here is a URL about an interview that is very informitive.

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3995

Just look to Nigeria to see the future. Islam is not a race. This is not a racial issue. Nigeria is being torn apart, the Christians move away, the muslims take over and start to fight on the line again. Over and over.

Look at this article. They are all the same race, all the same nationality and yet it is the same as it is everywhere else when muslims move into an area. Are these Christian African people bigoted? No, just not suicidal. And not PC. They speak what they see. They know they can't keep moving away.

http://www.acage.org/news/?day=06212006&id=0007

Here's one paragraph. But read the whole article to see the constant muslim attacks and church burnings story. What is the muslim apologist excuse for what is happening in this area? Let's see, not race, not foreign policy, not colonialism, not poverty ( all are poor). Oh yeah, I know, just ignore it.

“The strategy of the Muslims is that if they attack us and we flee, they then appropriate our land and homes as spoils of war and then consolidate their hold on the area, and then move on to attack us again in the new area we have moved to,” he said. “In this way, they gain ground by spreading the tentacles of Islam. We do not think it is wise for Christians to take to their heels any time they are attacked by Muslims. How can we run away from the land the Lord has given us?”

"They need to stress the three R's ..."

Posted by Freewoman

Also, add Spellchecking and Grammerchecking.

From OUR MAN in Kabul, Hamid Karzai:

"Stop killing Taliban, just give us money:.."

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/world/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

Sorry: The second link above is the one that works!

Jesus Christ Supercop

Did they mention Rome because Italy has soldiers in Iraq, or because they're still living in the far past?

Get real. They'll say any old shit that rolls off their tongue. You are thinking logically and expect the same from these feral critters

Karzai has some nerve to say it's not fair that the Afghans are dying. If he doesn't like it, use the money he's got now and rid themselves of the taliban. I know it won't happen..so he needs to shut up. Or at least advise his people to turn over the taliban. Or shoot on sight.

Sounds to me like Hell is filling up fast!

To those who say america has never been an imperialist nation. ur country was built on collaborative imperialism. i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own, this is the foundation of your nation, maybe u should look at your selves.

No wonder you and the israelis have your head up each others a r s es

I was born here. I guess that makes me a true native American.

i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own, this is the foundation of your nation, maybe u should look at your selves.

Posted by: sam [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 04:05 PM

Christopher Columbus discovered American in 1492. America was founded in 1776, approximately 300 years later. You cannot blame America – as a constitution, a regime, and a state – for killing the Indians.

We can however point the finger at Muslims for centuries of barbarity and war mongering all done under the constitiution of Islam.

Grow a brain Sam.

Sam bin Waleed

Quit the dawa. This isn't just about the US, it's about the US, Canada, Europe, Israel, Australia, India, Thailand, Phillipines, Nigeria and any number of other countries that are battlegrounds between you vermin and civilization. All those myriad attacks on Indonesian Christians, Malaysian Tamils, Bangladeshi Hindus, Iraqi Chaldeans, Syriac Christians, Copts, Maronites, et al have nothing to do with the Cowboys and Indians, er Native Americans. So quit trying to portray this as a purely American problem.

On another note, I have been opposed to the use of euphamistic terms like Islamist, Islamism, etc. One reason for that is illustrated above, when Mohammedan trolls like Sam/Khalid bin Waleed turn it around and use similarly meaningless adjectives like Americanist, Christianist, Bushist labels toget back. Just make it a vanilla Islam vs the Rest, and we'll be just fine.

Incidentally, what's with so many Islamic trolls like Sam/Khalid bin Waleed, lionheart, albion, norseman, John Howard (why not adapt the names Tony Blair or George Bush or Jacques Chirac or Vladimir Putin to make the same point, since they are a lot more subservient to Islam than is the Aussie PM)

"i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own..."
-- from a posting above

Erratum sheet:

For "you" read "Muslim Arabs"
For "u" read "they call Dar al-Islam"
For "america" read "large areas of the Middle East" and "North Africa" and "much of Asia, including Hindustan"
For "red indians" read "indigenous Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, and others"

Sam, our new-found Mohammedan poster, is peddling Islamo-standard fare which is as common in the ME as couscous.

Looking for similarities, Sam? Are we?

Since the 'ummah' has conquered and stolen all the lands of north-Africa and keeps stealing land in Africa, in Asia and in Russia/Chechnya, there has to be something that makes us alike:

But "US-Imperialism" as compared to Arab-Imperialism, is hardly alike. "US-imperialsim" is a fantasy product of yesterdays failed commies and todays Arabs.

Arabs have nothing to give, they rape and pilfer and produce nothing, ever. They never will...

Everyone in the world buys US products voluntarily, but why do I bother? Its really not worth to counter 'Sam's' absurd Mohammedan drivel.

There is NOTHING that Arabs and Mohammedans have ever contributed to make this world a better place, that is plain obvious and needs no explanations. Islam has NO place in the west and the sooner we start shipping the Mohammedan spook out, the better for all of us...

sam wrote: "To those who say america has never been an imperialist nation. ur country was built on collaborative imperialism. i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home..."

Sam, Sam, Sam...or should I type sam, sam, sam..?

Allow me to give you a dose of greymatter for a second. There are hardly any persons in the entire world that are truly natives of the lands they inhabit, with notable exceptions being Africans, at least according to most of the documented anthropology that I have read.

Your sad, little argument is also so full of hypocrisy that it's laughable. How many nations now occupied by Muslim oppressors and majorities actually invited those Muslims in? Syria? No. Lebanon? No. Libya? No. Egypt? No. Pakistan? No. Bosnia? No.

History is a series of human conquests, do you not understand even this most basic of points? I would not ask the Chinese to remove themselves from the Native American blood line anymore than I would ask countless Europeans to retract their heritage and leave the United States, for you see, not even the Native Americans were actually "native" to North America.

But, unlike so many of the Muslim immigrants (i.e. invaders) in Europe and the United States and Canada and Australia today, the Europeans were BORN in Europe, the Americans born in America, the Australians born in Australia, etc.. The Muslims were born in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iraq, Iran and on and on.

So, who are the new colonialists? Who are the bearers of the torch of Muhammad to foreign lands?

Muslims are the invaders today. The difference is, you will be pushed back. Islam does not have the metal or the guns to win this fight. You also do not even have the cunning that you believe you do, for you see, you are opposed in ways that you do not even begin to grasp. Westerners can be quite tricky when we need to be.

Now, please, go read some books and come back here when you can at least stand on two feet in an argument.

Foehammer

PS Norseman is what he is. I'm not even sure what, but he amuses me, and that matters for something, I suppose.

"Mohammedan spook out"

What a refreshing idea!

Yasser Ghalban!!!!

I would kiss you if you were not already dead. You stated your goals better then anyone! Its a global war against the non-islamic peoples...Indians, Israel, USA, Europe, Russia, Africans and others who see a world different from Islam. I guess all those who want to aid Hamas should perhap reconsider....

Although the funny part is Hamas cannot even run or control the weak little area they have. Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Considering the man who said the above statements was killed by his own...

Infidel Pride asked:
Incidentally, what's with so many Islamic trolls like Sam/Khalid bin Waleed, lionheart, albion, norseman, John Howard (why not adapt the names Tony Blair or George Bush or Jacques Chirac or Vladimir Putin to make the same point, since they are a lot more subservient to Islam than is the Aussie PM)

I'd say it's sure evidence that Jihad Watch has the Muslim "moderates" a little nervous.

I thought we all agreed that there were no Muslim 'moderates'. Your breaking my heart!

I personally wish we had more muslim appologists I love it when they show up with their Islamic propaganda and PC and multicultural psychosis.

Their is nothing more satisfying than watching them be crushed by objective evidence and logical arguments.

Sam please keep posting and could you also ask any of your delusional collegues to do the same, I dont have much to do today so would appreciate any fresh trolls you can send this way.

I don't think Norseman is a "Muslim moderate". I think he is just an Infidel with a taste for heavy irony.

I should add that I'm not actually Japanese. I just like old black-and-white films.

Perhaps one of us should choose the name "Saladin", if Couer de Lion's namesake is an Islamist poster. But, try as we might, none of us will ever beat "Wild Slutty Womens" as a posting name.

Speaking of irony, if Wild Slutty Womens happens to be a man, we've scaled the pinacle.

"Salvation will come from the Bible Belt, from people of faith, from conservatives, from home-schooled, principled, courageous, uncompromising individuals." US_infidel

Not a chance in hell. If they have their way we will be fighting with swords or sticks soon.

Sort of like that good christian baptist rev. from Kansas who stated before the Kansas board of education that gravity was the "hand of god" holding men down and empirical knowledge is not as important as spritual knowledge????

Thats why Islam was winning for its first 1,000 years of existance until those rational scientific folks (we still accept god...rational god) started making all those neat weapons that broke those muslims.

We did it once...we will do it again.

If Naseem has her way an imam will "beat wild slutty womens"!

Mmmmm...... Daisy Dukes 'n tube tops!

you fools, u say that using nuclear weapons on civilian targets in japan was justified, as it saved more lives, let me ask you this if the roles were reversed and japan nuked you, what would u say to this argument that sayy killing 500000 innocent civilains is justified. no you hypocrites if the roles were reversed to this day you would despise the japs. whats wrong with that video, it is either a jews using deceit as always, or if it really is muslims, than whats wrong, u lot are the one talking about a war, so whats wrong with the oppressed training their children so that they may fight their oppressors

Sam, like so many who share his views, is simply too illiterate to take seriously. Even were he sympathetic to majority opinion here and posting likeminded comments, I'd tune him out after reading a couple posts.

Personally, I am uninterested in the views of anyone who is too lazy or dense to aquire fundamental language skills before he sets himself the task of educating the rest of us.

If middle school English is a challenge for you, Sam, no wonder you don't have a coherent thought now and then. I'll let you in on a little secret about which you are evidently unaware: no one cares what dumb asses think.

hmmmm.........me thinks I smell a troll!

What do you care who we nuked, the Japanese are our friends they got over it, so should you. You want to see oppression watch us send islam to its grave. You will be looking so hard for allies you will beg the Jews to help you. Please, help tell the Americans to stop killing us, wah, wah, wah.

whats wrong with the oppressed training their children so that they may fight their oppressors.........above poster

Use your gray matter. I know you have some. Think about that sentence.

Ditto my comments above for salahudin. It's an epidemic. They breed like viruses.

Have you been to Japan, have you spoken to people, the ones who lost families or have relatives who are deformed. Seriously dont think anyone outside of USA(United Sadistic ASSHOLES) are actually your friends, the jews use you, and the rest only go along to with your political garbage to save them selves

Have you been to Japan, have you spoken to people, the ones who lost families or have relatives who are deformed. Seriously dont think anyone outside of USA(United Sadistic ASSHOLES) are actually your friends, the jews use you, and the rest only go along to with your political garbage to save them selves

its a question, which is what its supposed to be, 4got the? sorry

As you can see above:

Mohammedans are all clones of each other...

It is true: The Koran stifles mental growth...

Here is another troll parroting OBL's Bulls*#t about the US nuking Japan.

Do you have a mandate to speak for the Japanese, troll?

Have you ever been to Japan?

Have you ever met a Jew?

Yes, I have been to Japan and yes several told me they understood why we did it and one old lady kissed me and hugged me, she lost almost her entire family. The Japanese don't have any large groups of nut jobs looking for revenge, sorry charlie.

Here is the problem with fighting Americans. We are a relatively young country, always scrapping with someone and we have fought some real warrior cultures. The Indians (Native Americans), The British, The Germans, The Japanese, the Vietnamese (and a few others) all gave us a respectable fight. Here is the “but”. Only one Nation routinely fought us and won, only one matched us blow for blow, only one almost beat us in a long bloody, drawn out, in the trenches, all out war. Only one, the Confederate states of America, what made them different? Oh, yeah, they were Americans also. Hmmm me sees a pattern here.

salabimbim:

Have you ever been to the ME?

Have you seen the masses of fanatical, inbred and deformed Mohammedans on Koran rage or cartoon-rage???

Have you been to Iran to see the Mohound spew hatred?

Have you been to SA to listen to Sheik Quaradwi? Or have you been 'educated' at Al Azhar 'university?'

Salad in, if the Japanese are so bitter about being nuked, than why are their troops there along side ours in Iraq? They seem to have moved on fine. Personally, I don't get involved with trying to justify or condemn the nuking of japan, but your namesake Salad in seemed to have no qualms with firebombing Jerusalem, killing countless women and children in the process.

Now can someone clue me in, what does the bombing of Japan have to do with this thread?

Hugh and/or Robert et al, dosn't bringing up unrelated topics in order to try to create some sort of strawman arguement constitute trolling?

Yes, that's it. They're trolls. I'll bet they're hideously ugly.

i think your are delluded, it was the crusaders(known today as democratic christian extremist) who killed civilians, this is common knowledge.
Are you also going to argue the facts of the crusades

sala,

Regarding the facts of the Crusades, read Robert's P.I.G. to Islam and the Crusades, if you can stomach it.

You have to love Muslim logic or lack of it I should say.

whats wrong with that video, it is either a jews using deceit as always, or if it really is muslims, than whats wrong, u lot are the one talking about a war, so whats wrong with the oppressed training their children so that they may fight their oppressors
Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 05:23 PM

I particularly like the statement I highlighted above.

Lets get one thing straight salahudin, it is the Koran and Mohammed (pigs blood be upon him) that talk of war,

Excerpt K 9:029 Fight those who do not believe in Allah...nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

[4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward. [4.75] ...fight in the way of Allah... [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Satan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Satan... [4.77] ...when fighting is prescribed for them...Our Lord! why hast Thou ordained fighting for us?...

[2.190] ...fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

We in the west are just responding to your naked aggression. Like we did with the crusades and like my friend Ronin says above;

You want to see oppression watch us send islam to its grave. You will be looking so hard for allies you will beg the Jews to help you. Please, help tell the Americans to stop killing us, wah, wah, wah.

I also like the immediate fall back of 'it must be the Jews' who perpetrated that sick video. Why can't Muslims ever take responsibility for their own actions and the actions of their co-religionists.

Oh yeah I know why its because 99% of Muslims are liars, cheats, cowards and have no morals other than those medieval o9nes imprinted on them from birth via the Koran and Hadith.

Please post more of your lame moral equivalence arguments, I need a good laugh.

I have read a lot about the crusades and the truth is, it was a good start.

So there we have it from the mouth of a troll. It's about the conduct of the Second World War.

The connection is mystifying. Evidently, Muslims intend to conquer the whole world for their horrible backward religio-political system and "rule the nations" as a protest against the type of weapons used when victory was achieved by the allies over Japan.

It's puzzling to know why they were pursuing this horrible aim for the previous 14 centuries when such a motive had yet to emerge.

It's puzzling what this would have to do with the state of Israel, which had not even been founded at the time.

And it's even more puzzling when one remembers that the Japanese, who are supposed to be providing the ostensible excuse for Islamic Imperialism, were, in fact, assisting the coalition forces in Iraq.

To those who say america has never been an imperialist nation. ur country was built on collaborative imperialism. i mean u do realise you are not natives to the land u call home,u went to america killed the red indians and stole their land and mde it your own, this is the foundation of your nation, maybe u should look at your selves.

posted by: sam
STFW, every piece of soil on this planet has been ruled over by a lot of different races and kinds of people. Did you know oh wise muslim that there were white people in China in pre-history? The earth is eons old and humanity is a wandering sort of entity. No where on earth can be claimed as your and only your land. GTFOI.

Did you guys notice?

Sam suddenly became salahudin. Exact same writing.

With all their military might, America have proved that weapons dont win wars, the people using them do. When we talk of all the great wars and military achievements we often think of situations where the weakest in numbers and artiliary have overcome, eg hannibal, Muhammad(saw) and the four rightly guided caliphs. WHAT HAVE AMERICA DONE, THEY FIGHT THE POOR AND THOSE WHO CANNOT MATCH THEIR MILITARY MIGHT(WHY DO U THINK THERE STAYING AWAY FROM KOREA) EVEN WITH ALL THEIR TECHNOLOGY THEY CANNOT BEAT THE BRAVE AND COURAGOUS AFGHAN AND IRAQI FREEDOM FIGHTERS AND LAND PROTECTORS. SO PLEASE YOUR COUNTRY HAS THE WEAPONS, BUT NOT THE BRAINS.
Also many empires have come and gone and soon yours will to,

I was being ironic, thus "moderates" was in quotations. Have no fear; I am still me.

WHY DO U THINK THERE STAYING AWAY FROM KOREA)

Bwhahahaha!

Saddam had the 4th largest army in the world, and we blew it away in a few weeks!

You think we're worried about the 5th

Largest?

Gah. How'd that happen?

Salad in, nobody said that the Crusaders never killed civilians. But it is also an undisputed fact that your namesake firebombed Jerusalem killing countless women and children. That was the point I was making vis-a-vis your crocodile tears for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

But this is the real difference between you and us. You are still stuck in the 11th century while we are looking toward the 22nd. Muslims are obsessed about the Crusades, and idolize the jihadists involved in those wars while most westerners don't really relate to either side of that ancient conflict, and are generally ambivalent to the subject at large.

We all know if the muslims had developed nukes and not us they would have never used them because it might offend other cultures (Sarcasm off.

Here is reality ackmed, build all you can, we will still have more. Yes, we used them before and yes we can do it again, anytime we want too. Stick that in your hooka. You claim you are going to dominate, start now, get your sand covered butt to iraq. Stop arguing with me and the other posters; go jihad. Nah, you’re just another coward who believes he can be a mujahid by blogging, gimmie a break, all the brave muslims are dead. They died screaming for their mammas in fallujah. At least they tried; I can respect that. “I’m a cyber mujahid” look at me the mighty salad bowl hero of islam. Get a real job, earn some money move to iraq and face real men.

salahudin:

Once again, a tired argument based on an unrealistic and entirely unlikely "flipping" of sides -- this time the atomic bombs dropped on Japan.

For one thing, if anyone ever nuked (or nukes) the United States, I doubt you'd hear too much crying by Americans. The retaliatory bomb blasts would be too deafening.

You'd (and I'm assuming perhaps too quickly that you are a Muslim) better think really hard on who you are dealing with. We aren't the Japanese, we aren't the Germans, we aren't the Romans, we aren't the Greeks or the Persians or ancient Byzantine.

We are the United States of America, and "we've been kicking ass for 200 years!" (With my apologies to Bill Murray.)

You see, I don't have to be nice about this. I only have to be right. (With thanks again to Sir Winston.)

Folks, we got a troll onboard, sam has changed his name to salahudin.

Let’s give sam/salad a break, you want to defend, muslims and we have established the fact you are scared to face American warriors, face to face, no cowardice in that, you have strong survival instincts. Here is a solution: the biggest killers of muslims are other muslims. We can’t have that, you must hunt one down and punish him or her, mohammad would command you too if he were real. Still, you can do this, pick a small one or an older one, easier to handle. Drop back by sometime and let us know how it worked out for ya.

I like Infidel Pride's idea above: take the kaaba. No need to bomb, much less nuke it. It would be a cakewalk to take and a peice of piss for any Western army to defend. Hell, there's backwater militias in the US who could hold it indefinitely singlehanded. The landscape is nice and flat, the compound is big enough to garrison a few battalions, easy to fly in support and supplies... then just sit back and wait for the faithful to come and make their last Hadj.

Some conditions for it's release might be:

Voluntary withdrawal of the ummah form all dar al-harb, including Israel

Unconditional recognition of the divinity of all other, real religions

Formal declaration abrogating all totalitarian, militarist, fascist and racist doctrines

Constitutional reformation of all dar al-islam acknowledging equality of rights for all citizens of all creeds and cultures in islamic jurisdiction

Full recompense paid to Western countries for services rendered in liberating the ummah from their own self-destructive ideology - however long it takes them to pay it off. That'll give them some motivation to develop real industries and viable economies. Just for starters.

This just in: Allah has commanded all muslims to return to the middle eastern country of their choice as fast as possible for a series of very important seminars on how to turn sand into glass. Refreshments and a stupendous fireworks show will follow the seminars.

Stuck in the crusades...stuck in WWII.....stuck in the 7th century.

This is why muslims will always be backward.

Look into yourselves and find out why you hate the Jews and Infidels so much. And when you come to the conclusion that it's just jealousy eating at your souls.......GET OVER IT!!!!

"War is deceit.." said Mohammed, and Mohammedans try to follow in his tracks.

The above Salat-troll actually seems to lack the IQ to deceive anyone:

".. THEY FIGHT THE POOR AND THOSE WHO CANNOT MATCH THEIR MILITARY MIGHT.."

Ever ask yourself why Mohammedans are stupid and poor? Could it be because of Islam? Ever ask yourself why Mohammedans cannot develop anything let alone weapons?

Anyhow, this site is called "Jihad watch" for a reason. It is not called "USA-watch" or "Nuking Japan watch", all the crap salatroll posted is off topic and doesn't belong here.

But then again it just shows just how queer and bizarre the Mohammedan deceives himself...

What a hoot it would be if Naseem, Sam, and John Howard ever post on the same article. It might melt the internet and lock every server from Honolulu to Hong Kong (going east).

EVEN WITH ALL THEIR TECHNOLOGY THEY CANNOT BEAT THE BRAVE AND COURAGOUS AFGHAN AND IRAQI FREEDOM FIGHTERS AND LAND PROTECTORS.

Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 06:03 PM

Some technology in action for you Salahudin.

http://xrl.us/oorahh

Why arent you over there showing us how brave and mighty Islam is.

Maybe its because it is easier to stay home and beat your wife while being protected by the West's PC brigade

Let’s see how this works, muslims who post here use these arguments:

-It is your own fault (sometimes switched to the Israelis fault)
-We are a poor oppressed people.
-Only a small percentage if us go bad.
-We will win in the end because god said so.
-You don’t respect or understand us.

And my all time favorite,
-We demand Ronin assume his duty as the true Caliph. (Ok, I made the last one up but it is a solution)

I here by issue a new fatwa, “don’t post unless you come up with original material” you are starting to be a bore.

Form Sammi's use of the term "arse", as opposed to the more common, less formal "ass", one can surmise two points:

1) Sammi has "arses" on his mind.

2) Sammi is/was/will be British.

The former is forgivable, but the latter just reinforces the stereotypical effeminacy of British manhood, and that pisses me right off. I suppose repressed white "arse" joins the BNP, and repressed brown "arse" joins the islamic alternative. I think Sammi needs to get his alternative arse ironed out and face up to a few dificult issues...

At first, watching the “dead man” talking in the video was quite scary. But soon I couldn’t help but enjoy some of the biggest belly laughs I’ve ever had this year. The dead man looked like a bum, and talked like a bum. You find a guy like him everywhere in the world. Yes, Islam is dangerous! But for the moment, Islam is ridiculous! :-)

"The worst of the time, the best of the time." Mark Twain

Lovely rant.

Why was he bouncing around in bed? Odd ryhthm.

"OUR MAN IN KABUL",

Hamid Karzai, complains that the US is killing "too many freedom fighters..."
"..Taliban are sons of this country.." he sez
(sounds like "cockroaches can also be pets"...)

"just give us more money..."
(He is always concerned about money, our man in Kabul...)

http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/world/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_re_as/afghanistan

This thread is proof that Islam causes brain damage and/or appeals to the already brain-damaged.

Hamid Karzai, complains that the US is killing "too many freedom fighters..."
"..Taliban are sons of this country.." he sez
(sounds like "cockroaches can also be pets"...)

Karzai's brother has an Afghan restaurant here in SF, I had dinner there not so long ago. Some of the staff were Mujahideen, it was a surreal experience.

sam, salahudin, whoever else.

You're deluded and I think it's hilarious. Again we see the witless remarks of close-minded bigoted people who immediately throw up "Jew!" or "Zionist!" as their answer to everything and would try to cloud the issue with their 'reality-altering' Islamic abilities.

The issue really, from the beginning of this thread, was the comment from the article above stating that 'Islam will conquer US and Britain.' To issue such a statement is quite ballsy, but deluded. It does, however, work against Islam's cause because it helps to make those who aren't aware of the crisis the modern world is facing to take notice. There are many who are unaware of the history of Islam, but there are many, many more now who are more educated on the subject and aware of what Sharia law means to those living under it.

We're also more aware of Islam's intentions of ruling the world. There was a time before 911 when the phrases 'religion of peace' was spoken and not laughed about as it is now. We've seen your version of peace, and for those of us in the US who have led lives free of hatred of others and know what peace really means, we can't help but laugh at your kind. We've all witnessed children having temper tantrums and when you take to the streets to riot over cartoons ...well, you're simply children who weren't raised properly. Your Muhammad is a very bad parent.

While we here in America may feel guilt for the Native Americans who were here before us, let's admit that guilt is a two-way street and if you can show none for your bloody conquests of the past, then why should we? For the one race we've brought to the brink of destruction, your religious fervor has destroyed countless others and, to add insult to injury, has wiped out any and all relics and evidence of its existence. Where's the guilt? Don't try using that argument -you'll lose. In fact, you can blame yourself for the plight of the Native Americans because your religious zealots of the time forced Christopher Columbus to find another way around the Barbary Coast to India in order to avoid the pirating barbarians in order to trade. You've done nothing but create your worst enemies over and over. Congratulations, dipsh*t.

If Hamas (or Islam as a whole) thinks that they can conquer the US and Britain, they're going to be sorely disappointed. The truth of history speaks endlessly to the atrocities committed by Islam and the modern day bile-spewing 'religious experts', the examples of inequality of women, beheadings, torture, and dismemberment of human beings in the Islamic-controlled parts of the world does very little to further the cause of the 'religion of peace' and does everything to fuel the fires slowly building in the minds, hearts, and guts of the western world. Polls prove that Islam is being viewed more negatively now than ever before, so all I can say is that you should continue pouting, shaking your fists at the sky, and continue being the rotten little brats that you are.

Knock down 2 of our buildings and take a chunk out of the Pentagon and your reward is Afghanistan and Iraq both being knocked down, the leadership being toppled, chaos, ruin, and more pouting on your part. Keep it up. Next time you p*ss us off, we may do worse.

Go on. Keep it up. We've got plenty of weapons, a lot of technology, and we're just itching to have a place to try out our newest gadgets. Maybe we'll have some really nifty way of melting your brains and putting you out of your misery without so much mess.

I just wonder what they would do if we untied the hands of the Israelis??

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/729513.html
09:03 22/06/2006
Nephew of Fatah strongman Dahlan injured in Gaza car explosion
By Avi Issacharoff, Haaretz Correspondent

was waiting for the press to report this after all it was a mulsum killing another mulsum!!!

sheik yer'mami

He also said that the #2[YELLOW CURSED TO ALL WHO FOLLOW HIM] was the enemy of the Afghani People and at least the Afghani People are fighting these monsters which keep leading back to the palis

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunetr
Spider Killer
God Bless the USA and her Fighting Forces and ALL who Fights with her give them Strength, Wisdom, Sight, and Courage to Destroy ALL Islamic Terrorist and ALL who Support them Open the Worlds Eyes to their Threat give the World Courage to Stand Together o Destroy these Monsters Amen

What the usa is doing now is infinitly worse than 9/11 and 7/7, and only a hypocrite wont accept that. I mean at least the muslim terrorist dont lie about what their doing and the reasons for it, unlike GW bUSh(piss be upon him) who lies to his people, thus showing a lack of respect for his own people.
Mr Bush says that he is all for democracy and has shown he will kill 10s of thousands for his cause(errrmm similar to bin laden,) yet he shakes the hands and turns a blind eye to the evils of the dictators in egypt and pakistan, why because he really only wants control of muslim lands, by having subserviant leaders there, regardless of majority view.
BY THE WAY DOESNT SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE A DIRECT LINE WITH GOD, AND CLAIMS THAT GOD IS TELLING HIM TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, CLASSIFY AS A RELIGIOUS EXTREMSIT

salad troll-

Did you know......that all the bullets we use over in your neck of the woods....the metal jackets...are annealed in pig blood. Wanna see?

hava a nice jihad, salad shooter, and remember to grease your beard with muhammed brand pork chops.
toodles, I'm off to have a nice BLT.

Yes Pelayo, it's one of my minor pet peeves.

Km...

Are you going to go back to that restaurant?

I stopped going to a couple of my favorite places because they had hired "mujideens". I get really aggravated at the nasty looks they give.

Dont get me wrong im not a hypocrite, muslims commit crimes, and that means they have broken the rules of islam. I was born in England and i would protect my homeland against any unjust invaders, if i knew of a terrorist cell about to launch attacks in England i would try to stop it.
If Tony Blair got his face off of Bushes ass and Bush decided we needed a regime change i would fight to my death.
But above all else i am a Muslim, who is not blinded by either anti or pro islamic propoganda.

BY THE WAY DOESNT SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE A DIRECT LINE WITH GOD, AND CLAIMS THAT GOD IS TELLING HIM TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, CLASSIFY AS A RELIGIOUS EXTREMSIT
Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 07:11 PM

You must be speaking about Mohammed (Pigspiss be upon him).

Folks, we got a troll onboard, sam has changed his name to salahudin. Posted by: bigcatgirl13106

Mohammedan,

Japan has been lucky to never come under the rule of Islam. In fact, that's one of the reasons they are #2 in the world. And Shintoism, for all its shortcomings, is way better than Islam - I'd worship Emperor Akihito or Emperor Hirohito anyday before I even honor Mohammed.

Quit talking about Hiroshima or Nagasaki - those are partly the reason that the Japanese are as civilized as they are today. Problem with you is that this has never been done on major Islamic cities. Don't worry - keep this up, and sooner or later, that will be arranged.

Pigs blood, wooooow so imaginative and let me guess, their using pork chopped flavoured condoms to rape the women.

Look, i actually think america has a lot to contribute, and is a Nation which has many good people, however these decent moderate americanist, who only want to spread McDonald fast food and hollywood films, must stand up to those in their communities who commit and spread evil. only than can america truely prosper

i was also previously lion heart

No I am not going back thankfully the meal was paid for by someone else.

I had to laugh when I left, prior to leaving I was speaking with one of the waiters and asked him what he thought of the state of affairs in the Musliim world.

He went into a long rant about how it was all Americas fault, if America left Islam alone, Islam would leave the West alone. I had to try very hard not to regurgitate my mediocre meal onto his shoes and mine.

I am sure it easy for him to get away with a statement like that in SF. Most of the moonbats who live in this corrupt city hate the US as much as the Mohammedans.

When leaving I took some of Alarmed Pig Farmers advice and shook hands with my left hand. The look on his face was priceless and so was the reaction to wipe his hand on the seat of his pants after I let his hand go, the thing is he didnt even realise he did it. I left satisfied knowing I had ruffled this particular jihadists feathers.

only than can america truely prosper

Posted by: salahudin

Hahaha....hahahahahahah......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

Those in UK WITH SKY DIGITAL PUT IN ON 813 AND SEE THE TRUTH

Look, i actually think america has a lot to contribute, and is a Nation which has many good people, however these decent moderate americanist, who only want to spread McDonald fast food and hollywood films, must stand up to those in their communities who commit and spread evil. only than can america truely prosper.

Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 07:26 PM

What evil people would those be salad, it wouldnt be the ones who are waking up to your Islamofascist teachings would it.

The ones who realize what a threat Islam is and are now prepared to go out and get their hands dirty stopping your diabolical cult.

Instead of tying yourself in knots trying to berate the US, why dont you put that energy into convincing the more pious of your co-religionists to stop being such mindless, sadistic brain washed killers.

I will wager the reason you dont is that you support what they are doing and your ultimate goal is to see the the free world subjugated to the caliphate.

Problem with you is that this has never been done on major Islamic cities. Don't worry - keep this up, and sooner or later, that will be arranged.
Posted by: Infidel Pride

Good point, I have seen several of there cites which are very impressive, you should see what Dubai has done. It will be a shame to see that ruined by radical nut jobs. It doesn’t take much fighting to destroy a city, it does take peace to rebuild, if they really want us out of iraq they would lay down their arms and get to work rebuilding, pride and stupidity keep them from it. The so-called insurgents are starting to do that; the foreign fighters will have to be killed. They have no where to go, they are the true invaders, even the iraqis hate them. That does help us because they turn them so many of them in. I would have loved to see zarqawi crying when he realized we had him. In the end he died in the dirt just like the bug he was.

Hell when this is over I might get me one of them women in the ninja suits; it's like a surprise present you don’t know what you got until you unwrap it.

What truth is that Salad, why dont you enlighten us.

Animus was right he is British.

Although to call him British will probably be an insult to him. I am sure salad is a fully paid up member of the Umma, to label him British will just offend his Islamic sensibilities.

Sheikh Shuraim and his beautiful recitation of the taraweeh prayers(with subtitles), in Mecca, i wish you all the best and may allah truly bless your children by making them truly pious muslims who serve him and do credit to their ummah. and inshalla u will be alive to see( thats to the one with the most hatred in his heart, however that may be amongst you)

Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 07:26 PM

I see you have no problem useing something very American Called a computer and the enter-net????

OF course all them med.s [Like Pinecillien]that were invented in the USA hows the polieo going in Yeman OH yea another American Invention and for all them Women out there there is the Dishwasher Yea an American?

And what about Dryers and Washing Ma. And henry Ford did screw up the world!!

I do have to give the Brit's credit for the Tollet and I thank You with my whole heart for that and it was an American who invented Tollet Paper??

Yea we have a few thing more than just burgers and fry's But you have to admit that a Bacon Burger is GOOD!!!

And Jass GOOD!!

OH but their are so many things Hell Baseball What a Game!!

Part of the American
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

PS
And the best of course is Elvis and John Wayne

salahudumb@ss,

We here in the US have something we call 'freedom of religion' which means that anybody can worship anything they want and, as long as they don't forcibly try to stuff it down the throats of others, all's well. Your Bin Laden (and Iran's head honcho, Armadinijad) has issued a command to the US to convert to Islam. That rubs us the wrong way.

So did 911. You reap what you sow, so the Taliban got theirs and Sadam got his. Good ol' Zack came along and made things more difficult and then he got what was coming to him. You live by the sword, you die by the sword.

The biggest problem, however, is that when you look at the world as a whole, the modern democratic societies are able to live together reasonably well and develop humane laws that can be enforced without mutilating others. The Middle Eastern countries which are under Islamic rule also happen to be some of the most oppressed, poorest, uneducated people there are. Perhaps this idea of spreading democracy is unwanted by those same individuals, but there's always hope that we can pull the rest of the world into modern times even though they seem to be kicking and screaming the whole way. Hey, they've taken to our internet and technology and weapons, but for some reason they just can't seem to shake off that deeply-rooted hatred of others. Hmm ...why could that be? I must say that I respect their devotion, but I feel they've been duped early on. In a modern society, the antics of the jihadists would be considered anti-social and criminal. For that, you must be punished.

It's not about Bush talking to God -and I don't recall him ever claiming to talk directly to God, but if he did, as a Muslim you'll not understand the relationship between man and his God ...except through the distorted Muslim lenses. Instead, it's about religious fanaticism gone haywire in the Islamic countries and deserving someone standing up and handing a smackdown to those little brats -that's what it's about, buddy.

Don't try backpeddling, either. Claim your defense of Britain and claim to be a Muslim above all else, but you cannot have it both ways. If Britain came to its senses and started mass deportations of the Muslims, where would you stand? If the choice was to leave or renounce your faith (no lies, either -if they catch you going back on your word, they retain the right to line you up with other 'inside Muslims' and put a bullet between your eyes) would you be a good little citizen of the modern world or would you return to the squalor of your heritage?

It took the words of a Muslim to allow me to believe that the U.S.A. has "something to contribute" to the world.

All our universities, hospitals, libraries, labs, factories, think tanks, organized sporting events, theater, movies, music, cuisine, history and culture never gave me a clue....

Look dude, I personally could care less if you worshiped a potato it’s your desire to change others I have a problem with. I am having a blast teasing you but consider this, I have insulted islam, the prophet mohammad, your mujahideen, exposed how terrible your so called warriors really are, issued my own fatwas, started the 73rd sect of islam and insulted your women. Obviously I’m scarred to confront islam, lol.

I’ll give you guy’s credit you do keep me entertained. I could be outside watching a great sunset and drinking a cold beer. It would be a much better use of my time.

Dubai, puts New york, LA, and all your other major cities to shame. the beauty, the peace, and look the non-muslims are not held accountable for the crimes which their homeland governments are doing. I dont hear non of the americans in dubai, who have gone there to escape from crime and to gain wealth, complain about the sharia laws which protect them and has placed them in the best society of our time.

WHEN THE MONGULS CONQUERED MUSLIMS LANDS, THEY DIDNT REALISE THAT IT WAS IN FACT THEM WHO HAD BEEN CONQUERED, CONQUERED BY ISLAM.

WHATS WITH US SOLDIERS IN IRAQ REVERTING TO ISLAM, HEARD A MORE THAN A FEW HAVE.
AND WHO IS THE SNIPPER OF BAGHDAD?, IF I TOLD U, U WOULDNT BELIEVE ME

and our children will be released from Guantanamo. The prisoners will be released by Allah's will, not by peaceful means and not by agreements, but they will be released by the sword, they will be released by the gun".
FROM ABOVE

So the palis are going to get their islamic terrorist out of getmo is that right??

Now in my book this is telling us they are at war with the USA and plan a trip to Cuba Wonder what Castro will say about islamic terrorist in his country well this doesn't sound like just steam to me I say we had better do a preemtive strike what do you think we should use a MOP or a MOAB maybe both just want to make sure you know.

Will save the world a lot of money in the long run!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

OT: Am I in the Twilight Zone..wasn't the History Channel supposed to air "Ottoman Empire: The War Machine" tonight? Where is it? I can't even find a reference to it on the website schedule now....

I wouldn't worry about any converts they are not true muslims, they still wear our uniform and shoot at you guys. I don't know of any expats who are criminals but if they are there you should enforce the law and lock them up. I could care less who the sniper of Baghdad is, the clown missed me and I'd bet by now you are on sniper number 40. Even if you knew his name, we will kill him shortly and you can hunt up another one. You are right on Dubai, nice place, we let parts of some of our own cities fall apart, it is easy to find those areas, look for the immigrants. You still didn’t respond to my question of why you are not in iraq, it is your duty as a muslim. Don’t let the door hit you in the butt.

Salad is it a recitation like this.

http://xrl.us/hatespeech

or this

http://xrl.us/hateUS

Pout and cry and TYPE IN ALL CAPS. Just answer the question of whether you'd serve Britain or leave.

The reason I ask is because it's coming. Maybe not as soon as we'd all like, but there will definitely come a day when the average Joe in the street will get his wish and all of those who are plotting CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES will be removed for good. What about you, Salad-head?

i agree that america should be proud of its universities, sciences, medicines, technology ect But you do realise most of the above have evolved from what was learnt by Europeans from the MOORS and other muslim dynasties. U will no doubt contest that but its widely aknowledge that your University research methods, your medicine and sugery techniques have evolved from muslims, read anybook about the role and influence of islamic spain on the modern world and u will see.
Did anyone hear what the CEO of Hewlet Packard have to say about your backward enemy

OMG, now you've gone too far, Salahudin.

Someone hold me back....

Dubai, puts New york, LA, and all your other major cities to shame. the beauty, the peace, and look the non-muslims are not held accountable for the crimes which their homeland governments are doing.

Where do you think all the technology and money came from to build Dubai salad.

I can assure you it wasnt from the Sauds, Iran or any other backward Islamic state. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Dubai has a high immigrant poppulation and i dont see none of it turning into the bronx

Ok Salad stop with the we were great once crap, what has any islamic country done lately? Heck just go back 20-30 years and find anything of value to mankind. Look hard it will take you a long time.

Like the troops will eventually do in Iraq, I'm leaving. Salad-Head will claim victory, but the only one he'll convince is himself.

Let's see, salahudin-whatever-your-name-of-the-minute-might-be, is this theory of yours akin to the same belief that Muslims constructed those towering mosque minarets when in fact they were designed by and almost built entirely by Christian Byzantine conscripts?

Did you also know that many of the best artisans used by the Muslim world were saved from death for the sole purpose of providing the skills and labors that the Arab Muslims themselves could not hope to emulate?

How about the fact that this very same tactic was used when the deals were made with AMERICAN oil companies prior to the outbreak of WW II for digging up all that precious black gold out of the Arabian Deserts? To this day, the majority of the work done to gather oil is done by foreign workers!

Stop living another lie. Your cult is bad enough but when you start to attempt to twist historical fact, I will smack you down.

i was also previously lion heart Posted by: salahudin

Lay off the Crusader names, and for that matter, names like John Howard, and stick with - Mohammedan ones. Here's a list you can go with, as you try and flee each time

• Mohammed
  
• Abu Baqr
  
• Umar
  
• Ibn Khatib
  
• Ali
  
• Imam Hussein
  
• Ruqn-ud-din
  
• Sabuqtin Ghazni
  
• Mahmud Ghazni
  
• Mohammed Ghori
  
• Tamerlane
  
• Suleiman

Hope this list suffices.

"Artisans were brought from all of the Islamic lands Timur had conquered to beautify Samarkand, and indeed, much of that city's most striking monuments were erected by Timurid architects. The art of the Persian miniature also flourished under Timur, and the Persian cities of Herat, Shiraz, and Tabriz became important centres for this art."

http://ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/islam/mongols/timurid.html

Salad have you ever heard of the Greeks,

You should read the following:

http://xrl.us/refute1

"But above all else i am a Muslim"
Posted by: salahudin at June 22, 2006 07:18 PM

Thank you for playing and sharing so nicely. Remember, kindergarten starts in the beginning of September. Have a great summer vacation, and please make sure that you are toilet-trained before classes start. Here's a start: figure out which hand is your left, which is your right, and which hand you are required to wipe with. Then perhaps stop, think, and wonder: What ridiculous "religion" makes "morality" out of wiping your "arse"?

salahudin - surprise us... that "juba" sniper's a Mossad agent, eh? I saw that the other day on some venomous antisemitic site. Probably the work of your cohorts. You make snide platitudes pretending to be a proud Brit, yet state you are moslem first and foremost....

National pride means your country comes first. You're either British first, last, and nothing more or less between, or you are a traitor. As long as this remains a free country there's no conflict between being British and professing any other identity, creed or ideology - provided those beliefs don't usurp the authority of the state. Islam is to dominate and not be dominated, an aggressive totalitarian ideology that is completely at odds with the values of freedom, liberty of mind and true nationalism. BritishIslam is a contradiction in terms.

I'd like to think Jack Straw was ousted not for stating that action against Ahmedinejad was "too horrible to contemplate", but for his outright dishonesty in alledging there's no conflict between Islam and British sovereignty. People like you are forcing even the flacid New-Labourites to wake up. From here on, you're only decieving yourselves.

And let's not forget the Hungarian Christian traitor that brought about the fall of Constantinople while in the employ of the Muslim military machine.

"The Ottomans employed a Hungarian engineer called Urban who was a specialist in the construction of cannons, which were still relatively new weapons. He built an enormous cannon, nearly twenty-seven feet (more than 8 m) in length and 2.5 feet (about 75 cm) in diameter, which could fire a 1200 lb (544 kg) ball as far as one mile. It was dubbed "the Basilic". Although the Byzantines also had cannons, they were much smaller and their recoil tended to damage their own walls. Urban's cannon had several drawbacks, however. It could hardly hit anything, not even as large as Constantinople; it took three hours to reload; the cannon balls were in very short supply; and the cannon collapsed under its own recoil after six weeks."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople

And last, but not least, the undeniably well-known traditional Muslim use of the Janisseries:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary

NOTE: These wikipedia reports are quite questionable in many parts when it comes to the context of the actual historical accounts. I only use them as examples, but there are plenty available in libraries and elsewhere on the web. Again, we see the use of modern technology to twist the truth and you always have to be wary of what you see in print on the web.

The Muslo-pologists seem to appear and trot out their "Red Indians/Hiroshima" irrelevancies every time it seems there might be a natural, humanly-repelled backlash against Islamic Imperialistic horrors [the grostesque murder and mutilation of two luckless U.S. soldiers in Iraq] that are being noticed more and more by the appalled, non-Muslim world.

These same non-Muslims, meanwhile, also see "Red Americans" prospering in the USA, with fancy casinos, lucrative "pow-wows" (where they sell artwork, jewelry and music from coast to coast) and even tax-free internet tobacco (to poison the unwary immigrants with this first form of covert biological warfare). And the infidels at large also witness the Japanese as happy and prospering, with one of the highest levels of culture and civilization on Earth.

Both "victims" of the "evil" Americans.

Muslims should be so lucky as to be so "conquered" by America.

They might then have a chance to stop worrying about which hand is "proper" to wipe themselves with, or how little value women have ("one-half the worth of a man" according to their pedophile "prophet" Mohammad), and could then liberate themselves from the dismal dogmas of the Koran, to re-join history and unite with free humanity in our quest to discover the true breadth and depth of the human spirit.

And not remain chained to a sterile pillar (or 5) in the shadowy 7th century.

Islam is a "Virgin of Nuremberg" for the soul. (AKA "Iron Maiden".)

And forbids any thought beyond the collected [and censored] ramblings of their dead warlord.

Free yourself, sam/lionheart/saladbowl/wahid sahib snotnose/thx1138/kingtolerance/ia786/whomever.

Islam is lame.

The way Israel "ran" from Gaza after terror is presented as the prototype for future Israeli and Western behavior in the face of Islamic force.

This is one of the funniest things I've read today.

It never ceases to amaze that restraint is seen as weakness by cowards.

When people like sam/salahudin/inserttoday'sname start rabbitting on about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they seem to forget that those bombings were carried out by the very people they are accusing of cowardice.

It's not weakness to refrain from raining destruction down on the blameless. It is not weakness to choose your targets carefully so as to reduce collateral fallout (ref: IDF targetted bombings &c).

It is a remarkable testimony to the strength of the US and Irsael that they haven't unleashed the dogs of war against the 'insurgents' and other 'freedom fighters' who declare war and then refuse to fight like men of war.

Rather, they hide behind women and children, then with much wailing and gnashing of teeth blame the infidels for their loss.

They accuse us of being the slinking curs they imitate.

One day, the gloves will come off, and the damage will be much greater than anticipated.

L.Drummond.

well actually i was thinking more along the lines of an AWOL, who has seen what is being done by his country and has out of disgust and being shown the light,left the dark side. "juda"
is that what your calling him

...and Byzantine architecture descended from the Persians. The best "islamic" art (what little there is to be found) is Persian, or copied in their style. The ancient Persians bequeathed much to the west, via the Greeks and Romans. Islam is and has always been an iconoclastic, Borg-like appropriater - of technologies, religions, nations, minds and souls. Read Ali Sina, read islam-watch.org, read here, but don't waste everyone's time posting nonsense that's already been refuted all over this site and countless others.

how the hell is firing bombs and missiles honorable. thats like me intimidating the unarmed with a gun and than complaining when one of the brave poke my eyes out

Hello salahudin (ia 786?)
You guys should remember this guy, same old arguments.

From the article: "We will rule the nations, by Allah's will, the USA will be conquered, Israel will be conquered, Rome and Britain will be conquered…"

Gee, after 1400 years (that's one thousand four hundred, almost a millenium and a half) one would think that the goal should have been accomplished. It appears that the Mohammedan Conquest is a little behind schedule. Perhaps Allah doesn't have much will. Or else there ain't no Allah. I think a god with the powers of Allah could have had it done already. All Allah should have to do is wriggle his nose and all us infidels would fall over dead. 1,400 years, my how time flies.

if your army is so honorable explain carpet bombings and air strikes, because their scared to fight man to man, unless if they out number and even then with their m16s, and other modern weapons they cant defeat the mujahideen,

yo sick racist dude, your compadré's named "juba" not "Juda". 'Dem pesky Yehudis are eatin' you up, eh...? Interesting Fruedian slips... "Arse"... "Juda"... you need some time in the chair matey. Hitler had similar hangups...

congratulations, a little group of American rednecks have amused themselves by slagging off one little Islamic poster. Trouble is, none of you have any structured ideas how to combat what has been a religious/political force for over a thousand years. So, feel free to call me a Muslim apologist (you couldn't be further from the truth). I am looking to find strategies that will bring the west out of it's multiculturalist slumber, and will allow us to intellectually and militarily beat Islam. All I get is a Wal-Mart manager (that's you storemanager) and some sad republican (that's you km) that thinks he/she/it is fighting the war by shaking with their left hand in SF.
So why don't you'all spit out your tobacco, turn off fox news and start trying to form a MOVEMENT that will actually counter the very obvious threat we face.

Salahudin:

the Muslims contributed nothing to the intellectual development of the world. If you do not believe me, then I ask you why did the Muslims destroy the legendary Library of Alexndria, the knowledge contained in which was believed by historians to be sufficient to advance the world's technology more than 1000 years? (ALSO, why does the Kuran state that the world is flat, there are such things as talking rocks and talking trees, and that semen is produced in the pelvic bone???). Societies do not advance if they place no priority on advancement as it is just too difficult to achieve without some motivation to achieve it.

The Muslims destroyed the Library of Alexandria to keep the world trapped at the technological of the Arabian peninsula circa 500 AD. And with few exceptions this is the level at which the Islamic world stayed. Mission accomplished!

As for your denunciation of the Bronx, your image of it is obsolete. True, during the 1970s much of it it had deteriorated badly, but during the 1990s it experienced a massive renovation and infusion of capital and today is a high-priced, well-maintained and propserous area (for the most part).

As for Dubai, the people there smoke too much camel poop!

to all those who call the prophet(saw) a pedophile.
the age of concent varies from place to place, but is usually between 13-18, now thats today.
100 years ago the age of concent in some parts of america was 10.
the universal definition of Pedo is matters dealing with pre-pubescent children think pedeotrition, in islam and other religions a child becomes an adult upon reaching sexual maturity.so islam was actually the first ideology which forbade child molestation, this can be seen by the prophet waiting 3 years for aisha to reach sexual maturity before consumating his marriage. also how comes this has only recently been used to discredit him.
One other point of note, when the age of concent was only 10m in america it made no distingueshment between whether the child had reached sexual maturity, so your great, great, great grandads were molesting pre pubescent girls

albion:

Few of us posters here reveal our true identities. You have no proof who many of us are or what we are doing off line. Some of us might very well be involved in 'movements' to counter jihad for all you know.

So your post is pure conjecture. Have a nice day.

salahudin: Only the ones who actually did that. You have no idea who they were.

Let me put it to you this way then salad, if your Mujahideen are so honourable why do they deliberatly target innocent and unarmed civilians.

http://xrl.us/truckdriver

Note the cries of Allah snackbar at the end.

where does the quran say the world is flat, show me, and also how comes non of the enemies of islam ever called the prophet(saw) a pedo, maybe because during his time and the 1300 years after they were the ones molesting pre pubescnet girls, and he on the other hand never molested a pre pubescent girl

Pelayo, al-lah IS real. A real lump of rock. But he is weak-willed, it takes a lot of effort controlling 1.2 billion zombies and he's not had much sleep in the last millenium or so. And besides, since he pre-dates islam by at least three thousand years he's getting on a bit, bless. I'm worried he might trip over his cat and break a hip or something. No doubt he'll want a Jewish doctor and free NHS treatment...

Are you albion that posted here a couple of years ago? I don't think so.

pythagoras: albion started off with nightmares,conjecture is an improvemnt:

Albion, you sound like my kind of enemy, what would your movement do

Who rattled your cage Albion, you have no idea what I have done to counter the Jihad, but I will wager a pretty penny its a lot more than you have.

Keep your vitriol for those that deserve it.

pythagoras: I was writing something flippant 'right back at ya' but then I thought, well he/she could be doing something about radical Islam. But if you are, what are you doing posting here? Surely we've read enough stories of enough little league Jihadists posting their life stories only to have (for e.g.) the Canadian Cops knocking at their door.
BTW: I thought Caesar burnt down the Library in Alexandria?

km: fair enough, I guess I was stepping over the line by including you in my rant. My apologies.

So no ones contesting my post which kicks your muhammad was a pedo argument out of the window, acceptance of defeat is a sign of intelligence.
or are u all busy on the net trying to establish the facts, thats what you should do, when judging people u need to look at the facts, as oppossed to just plagerising the slander of others

http://www.wiki.faithfreedom.org/index.php/Mohammed's_Pedophilia

http://www.wiki.faithfreedom.org/index.php/Mohammed's_Pedophilia
Let's see if this one works

Apology accepted albion.

????

well if my door is kicked down, it would be a propoganda victory for me and a kick in the ass for your freedom of speach, i have in all my post condemed killing innocent civilians, and all my post are forwarded to a trusted non muslim lawyer

Just copy and paste the whole link into your browser. I don't know why it won't link.

Salat-troll doesn't read the Koran, otherwise he would know that the earth is flat, that the sun sinks in a murky pond, that Satan sleeps in his nostrils, that jinns piss in his ears and that camel-piss is a cure for all.

Everything else has been debunked here many times, like the "Golden Age" of Islam, when Christians and Jews were used as slaves to build Mohammedan palaces. After they were all killed or forcibly converted there was no more 'golden Age'... understand that, Salat-troll? The whole Mohammedan concept is based on conquest and booty, on rape and subjugation of 'unbelievers'- so no conquest means Mohammedans are left to stew in their own juices, that's your cult-(ure), Mr. troll...

And if you are hoping to screw a 9 year old in good old England you will end up in jail! Abu Hamza is waiting, I'm sure he has his very own ideas as to what to do with twits like you...

albion: There are many excellent posts on this blog. If nothing else there is an invigorating exchange of ideas taking place here. That is why I check in now and then.

As for the Library of Alexandria, it survived the attacks by the Romans in the first century AD reportedly in tact. There was, however, severe damge done to it by the Romans in the fourth century AD--yet it appears to have survived after that (although possibly not completely).

There are accounts of the library's existence until the seventh century AD, when it seems to have finally disappeared off the map. If it disappeared after the seventh century AD then it was clearly the work of invading Muslims who finished it off. Muslims are indeed credited for having burned thousands of scrolls contained in the library. But most of the library's history I have learned is apocryphal and poorly documented.

However, the University of Cairo apparently still contains some of what once lay within the fabled library (probably only a tiny fraction of what was once there).

sheik yer'mami: he who angers you conquers you, enough said about a trick ass biaaaatchhhh like u.

i hope if i have achieved anything today(apart from proving that my spellings pupp)its to educate you about your ignorance in calling the prophet(saw) a pedophile i have countered this slander with rational facts and logic, unlike most of you who just blabber ignorant and pridalistic garbage

oh Salahudin..you just went far away from anything we would call being British. 'A kick in the ass for YOUR freedom of speech'? Sure it's my freedom. Built from 1066 onwards on the bones of brave Englishmen who died to support your freedom to wind us all up. But that is at the root of what our American friends have been saying. Our culture is built upon precepts of rationalism, libertarianism and free will.

To return to topic...
Not in your lifetime ducky-since Yasser Ghalban is DEAD and what's more killed by fellow Muslim Palis!!Ha,ha.
To Sam [the poor speller], Saladin [without a lunchbox] the following quotation:
"Those who can only boast of their ancestors 'past talents and accomplishments are LIKE POTATOES-ANYTHING GOOD IS ALREADY BELOW THE GROUND ." Hope you enjoy my little pun which is also approriate to 'Hero of Hamas'...

pythagoras: Yes, you are correct (I just looked it up).

Animus, I draw a distinction between the Judeo-Christian God and the Mohammedan God. They are not the same. I do not believe that the same God would deliver two opposite messages. The God who gave us Jesus is NOT the God who gave us Mo.

What facts are those salad, I havent seen any any just more of your moral equivalence.

Mohammed married a six year old and then consumated that marriage when she was nine. That sounds exactly like paedophilia to me.

I'm with km on this one. no culture at any time has declared bedding a 9 year old to be acceptable.

Anyway i am done for today, islam will overcome this political, media and forceful onslaught. you will be desgraced by islams mercy in victory.

so explain why did the you's of 1400-120 years ago not call him a pedo, and what about the age on concent being 10 in some parts of usa a 100 or so years ago, infact their was a state where the age was 7, no seven year old can be sexually mature, and if he was a pedo why would he wait for 3 years, dont pedos like their mangos as green as possible, maybe you should check your great grandads diary

hey mos, quit promising and get it started. we are waiting.

Is ‘Muslim blood flowing everywhere’? — Khaled Ahmed’s Review of the Urdu press

Ummah News Links

folks: I was wrong. The christian (medieval) age of consent was seven years old.

Bad link in posting above. My apologies.

Is ‘Muslim blood flowing everywhere’? — Khaled Ahmed’s Review of the Urdu press

Ummah News Links

Democratic christian extremism, and the DCE'S leader has hullucinations of talking to good the, enemy they describe bare striking similarites to their own statments and actions, yet the brainwashed americanist do not see this
Posted by: sam at June 22, 2006 02:32 PM
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sam you belive in the filth of the cult of islam and therefore are covered in the filth of the cult of islam and have become filth.

America will conquer and subjugate the cult of islam and all islamic countries once the mos attack us again for America will clean up the filth that is the cult of islam and then what is left will be like Germany and Japan after WWII, ready to be reborn just as Christians are reborn into the house of God.

salahudin,

"BY THE WAY DOESNT SOMEONE WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE A DIRECT LINE WITH GOD, AND CLAIMS THAT GOD IS TELLING HIM TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE, CLASSIFY AS A RELIGIOUS EXTREMSIT"

Admiting the truth that the founder of Islam was a religious extremsit.

PS : Islam by what we have been seeing in the last few decades is showing to the world that it is on its last legs as I post. The truth is that the fastest growing faith because of its great growth in the global south is the Christian faith.

km,

"Mohammed married a six year old and then consumated that marriage when she was nine. That sounds exactly like paedophilia to me."

Also by today's standards, Mohammed would land up in jail because Aisha would be considered "jail bait".

Should people listen to the dead man talking in the video? Yes! But what he said was only partially true. French Jewish physician Nostradamus accurately predicted 400 years ago the sequential coming and defeat of 3 major enemies of the world – Napoleon, Hitler and lastly the turban head Bin Laden whom Nostradamus called “King of Terror.” So Muslims’ dreams of conquer of the world will not be a reality. But the bad news is that nuclear and biological weapons of mass destruction will be used at WWIII according to Nostradamus. If you survive, you and your offspring will be welcome to live and die in another thousand of years of peace.

Pelayo - absolutely. Didn't mean to argue, I was just using your quote for a cheap one-liner. I believe al-lah descended from the babylonian/canaanite deity marduk/molech/sin/baal - through a syncretistic convergence over many centuries. The Jews split from the hanifs over the issue of child-sacrifice, in which al-lah still revels. But I digress...

Wow, all the horrible things I said today about islam, all true btw (except for me being the caliph) and salad is still on the pedophile kick. First I have never seen any historical record of any Americans ever legally marring little girls. I do know it is still legal today in islamic counties, along with slavery, murder (honor killing). Let me save you some trouble, all you have on your side is rumor and ancient history. Explain today, now, none of us give a rats about the past. Explain islam today, explain why muslims kill so many other muslims, way more btw than they kill us infidels, explain the racist views you teach your children. Explain why you deny your own holy book, it clearly explains mohammad was a pedophile, deal with it. Be proud of the god you worship, none of you worship allah, you emulate mohammad the pedophile. BTW, insulting him is punishable by death so stop denying him. Explain why your mujahid get their asses kicked in every fight, why doesn’t allah help them? Explain why he doesn’t crush the net to protect his name, I dare allah to strike my computer, do it allah, darn he is asleep. Explain why there are 72 sects if islam is so great get your crap together and form one sect. Explain why you are not in iraq, I went, lovely place, I recommend you go. Explain why you keep changing your sign on name, we don’t. Explain why you lost every argument but still believe you have something to offer this group. I could go on but it will not matter, you will never honor your god and fight. Go jihad, at least be brave enough to do that, old mo needs your blood and if any muslim deserves a chance at 72 virgins it should be you. I’ll miss ya.

As always the mo trolls go to the past:

The Crusaders, and then of course how advanced islam was in the middle ages.

When are they going to move into the present?

More importantly when are they ever going to take a long hard look at what they have done and take responsibility for any of it?

Someone previously said,,,too far back,so sorry for not mentioning your name,,,,if they achieve their caliphate they will kill each other as death and destruction are about the only thing they can do in this modern era, and centuries past.

Dubai and saudi arabia used foreign engineers and workers but of course their own money!

Also how many Nobel laureates have they produced saladin? And you are still saying they achieved a lot in scientific areas and we are builing on from that?
(arafat was a mistake!)

What do you have to say to this Salad.

http://xrl.us/Islampederasts

Your sacred culture is deviant to the core, accept it and move on in your life.

mmmm that link doesnt work

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_the_Islamic_world

Gramfan,

The Muslims are still stuck in the past. I just do not understand it for the life of me.

JW is getting more than its fair share of muslim trolls lately. All whining about Western imperialism.

Sorry to hear that Slimeball Salahudin has taken a break from posting -- NOT!!!

I thank you all for some very interesting reading. Islam is in it's last days and it's everything the muslims have been doing and saying that will bring about it's long awaited death.

Allah was nothing but mo's sock puppet who agreed with every deviate thing mo wanted to do. They might just as well be praying to a tree for all the good it does them.

The Muslims are still stuck in the past. I just do not understand it for the life of me.
Posted by: bigcatgirl13106

It comes down to shame, no muslim can justify the present so they attempt to draw attention away. The will use everything from the moral equivalence argument to the “golden age” crap. I can’t blame them, I think they should be ashamed, deeply ashamed. They know their religion is crap they are just too cowardly to leave it. They are afraid not of us, we can control ourselves. They are afraid their own brainwashed relatives will kill them and enjoy doing it

http://humor.beecy.net/menwomen/womansong/

JUST FOR FUN!!

Qur’an 4:43 “Believers, approach not prayers with a mind befogged or intoxicated until you understand what you utter. Nor when you are polluted, until after you have bathed. If you are ill, or on a journey, or come from answering the call of nature, or you have touched a woman, and you find no water, then take for yourselves clean dirt, and rub your faces and hands. Lo! Allah is Benign, Forgiving.” [The Qur’an claims women are unclean and polluted—worse than dirt.]

CLEAN YOURSELF WITH DIRT NOP WONT WORK?

Qur’an 4:11 “Allah directs you in regard of your Children’s (inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females…. These are settled portions ordained by Allah.”

NOP NOT GONA WORK

Qur’an 33:36 “It is not fitting for a Muslim man or woman to have any choice in their affairs when a matter has been decided for them by Allah and His Messenger. They have no option. If any one disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he is indeed on a wrong Path.”

NOW THIS JUST AINT GOINA WORK

Bukhari:V4B52N211 “I participated in a Ghazwa [raid] with the Prophet. I said, ‘Apostle, I am a bridegroom.’ He asked me whether I had married a virgin or matron. I answered, ‘A matron.’ He said, ‘Why not a virgin who would have played with you? Then you could have played with her.’ ‘Apostle! My father was martyred and I have some young sisters, so I felt it not proper that I should marry a young girl as young as them.’”

YEP A PREVERT

Tabari IX:139 “Layla approached the Prophet while his back was to the sun and clapped him on his shoulder. He asked her who it was and she replied, ‘I am the daughter of one who competes with the wind. I am Layla. I have come to offer myself to you.’ He replied, ‘I accept.’” [Layla shared her story with her parents.] “They said, ‘What a bad thing you have done! You are a self-respecting girl, but the Prophet is a womanizer.’”

NOW LET ME GET THIS STRIEGHT THIS IS YOUR PROPHET

Qur’an 8:28 “And know that your property and your children are just a temptation.”

SO THE MULSUMS ARE TOLD NOT TO LOVE THEIR CHILDREN

Qur’an 64:14 “Believers, truly, among your wives and your children there are enemies for you: so beware of them! ... Your wealth and your children are only a trial.”

NOW THIS DOESN'T FIT WITH WHAT YOU SAID AT ALL??

Qur’an 8:40 “If people are obstinate, and refuse to surrender, know that Allah is your Supporter. And know that one fifth of all the booty you take belongs to Allah, and to the Messenger, and for the near relatives (of the Messenger).”

NOW THIS MAKES SENCE TO ME SENCE ALL THE CLARICS ARE CLAIMING TO BE DECENDENTS YEP THE MOB!!
LAST TIME I CKED PURSIA WAS NOT MULSUM WHEN ALL THOSE GARDENS WERE BUILT??

Qur’an 8:69 “So enjoy what you took as booty; the spoils are lawful and good.”

ISN'T THAT BREAKING ONE OF THE COMMANTS
JUST THEIFS?

Tabari VI:107 “Satan Cast a False Qur’an Revelation on the Messenger of Allah’s Tongue.”

SO LET ME GET THIS STRIEGHT D-EVIL = SATAN

Qur’an 6:66 “The people reject this (Book) and call it a lie though it is the truth. Say: ‘I am not a warden over you.’ ...When you see men who meddle with Our Revelations, turn away, withdrawing from them. Satan makes you forget.”

COULD THIS BE THE 666 THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE TALKS ABOUT NOT GOOD

Qur’an 37:6 “We have decked the lower heaven with stars to protect them against all rebellious evil spirit, and provide security from every forward devil. So they cannot listen to the highest chiefs for they are pelted from every side, repulsed; they are under a perpetual torment, being driven off. Except such as they snatch away something by stealth, but then they are pursued by a flaming fire of piercing brightness.”

HUH
OH I JUST GOT THIS ONE THAT IS WHY #2[CARRIES A YELLOW CURSE]KEEPS HANGING OUT WITH WOMENS LAUNDRY...

Ishaq:91 “The Prophet explained the nature of shooting stars. ‘Allah shut off the satans by these stars which pelted them. So satans tried to steal information, listening in, mingling what they heard with conjecture and false intelligence. They conveyed it to the soothsayers.’”

WELL WE KNOW THAT JUST PLAIN WRONG

Bukhari:V4B54N516 “The Prophet said, ‘If anyone rouses from sleep and performs ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blow it out thrice because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night.’”

SO HE HAD SATAN IN HIS NOSE?

YEP A POTATO!!

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND TOGETHER TO DESTROY THESE MONSTERS AMEN

PS
Could they have talked about Roma because the Head of one of a very big hurch is there??

OR is it because the USA beat the Italians at Football so they think that Roma is weak??

I think they will be somewhat suprized at how wrong they are!

BigCatGirl: thanks:)

many of you have mentoned Nostradamus on this and other threads. Most of his writings can only be interpreted with hindsight, although not all of them. I recall he mention the antichrist and named him "mabus" which is sorta sadam backwards.
He also mentioned "hister" rather then hitler so I am taking a bit of licence here.

However, have any of you heard of Sun Bear? He was a Chippewa chief who recently died.He had many visions and wrote them down in his book, "Black Dawn, Bright Day" .

He was the first person I had read who said islam was the worst religion because of the way it treated it's women, and Mother Earth.
He predicted a clash of civilizations between the west and islam also.

As an Indian, I once again express my disappointment with Jihadwatch in only putting bold highlighting on the portion of the statement which refers to conquest of Israel, Britain and the US. The part about Indians being forced to run from their own territory of Kashmir is given less emphasis. Please stop the double standards -- our lives are just as important as the rest of yours. Even though we're not among the more important infidels, we're still human beings too.

sanman,

You are, of course, correct and we are all in this together. Thanks for reminding us.

(I always found it interesting that both India and Israel were among the first to have women as their leaders.)

Read and see if you can keep from rolling on the floor.........
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One of the best quips of all time, this is a portion of a National Public Radio (NPR) interview between a left-wing female reporter and US Marine Corps General Reinwald who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military installation.

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FEMALE INTERVIEWER: So, General Reinwald, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?

GENERAL REINWALD: We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery, and shooting.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?

GENERAL REINWALD: I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?

GENERAL REINWALD: I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.

FEMALE INTERVIEWER: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.

GENERAL REINWALD: Well, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?

The radio went silent and the interview ended.

Gotta love the Marines.

Look, i actually think america has a lot to contribute, and is a Nation which has many good people, however these decent moderate americanist, who only want to spread McDonald fast food and hollywood films, must stand up to those in their communities who commit and spread evil. only than can america truely prosper

Posted by: salahudin

Why are you people fixated on McDonalds?!! I haven't been to McDonalds since I outgrew their french fries twenty years ago. Apparently McDonalds appeals to people everywhere because I have seen them in every foreign country I have visited. Maybe you don't, but Americans have enough sense to distinguish between reality and what Hollywood churns out. Movies are entertainment, not DOCUMENTARIES. America is not defined by Hollywood movies.

In case you haven't noticed, America has been "truly prospering" for quite a while. Your perception of America is obviously a fantasy derived from movies, propaganda, lies from the pulpit of your favorite mosque, and too many comic books. Believe me, you cannot even imagine what America is like until you've been here, and you obviously have not.

Your perception of America is obviously a fantasy derived from movies, propaganda, lies from the pulpit of your favorite mosque, and too many comic books.

Posted by: Susanp [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 22, 2006 11:50 PM

That about really sums it up, well said Susanp.

And the sad fact is there are billions more like salad out there.

OT

US Militiary steps up rhetoric on Iran.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5108496.stm

Salad Bhai salam, you are a true Katua of Pakistani Origin(KOP). Musharraf Bhai here in Islamabad has appreciated your laudable Islamic efforts.Keep it up. Very soon you will be awarded with Nishan-e-Pakistan.

Texican

thanks for that. A bit of comic relief goes a long way!

Since January we have seen an upsurge in [Iranian] support, particularly to the Shia extremist groups
Gen George Casey
US commander in Iraq
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the stupidity in washington still astounds the world. regardless of what we do in iraq, the shia and the sunni will wage civil war on each other, it is only when not if..........

we need to move our troops to the coast and into jurdish land and let the shia and sunni wage war then deal with the winner.

Texican - your piece about the interview with the marine reminded me about another one I heard. It goes like this:

CONTEXT: An interview with a US Marine in Iraq.

Jurno: "What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist?"

Marine: "Why...recoil!"

"promising the eventual conquering and subjugation of Christian countries under Islam."

As usual Islam is about 1000 years to late. The Christian countries have already been conquered - by the lefty PC secularists.

The West hasn't been Christian since the decade after WW2.

As usual Islam is about 1000 years to late. The Christian countries have already been conquered - by the lefty PC secularists.
The West hasn't been Christian since the decade after WW2.
Posted by: 3rdtimelucky at June 23, 2006 12:53 AM
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The 200 plus million Christians in America that profess a belife in God and Christ may just not agree with you.

the cult of islam may be in a for surprise trying to defeat Christanity in America.

why do you capitalize the filth that is islam???

albion

I called you a Mohammedan troll for a reason. Here you are putting in the moral equivalency between Christianity & Islam on the pedophilia question. Tell me - even if you believe the da Vinci Code, was Mary Magdalene 7 when he married her? Did Christian adult men marry little girls of 7? In those days, child marriage wasn't unusual, but usually, it was between children - both boys and girls. The age differences, though pronounced, was nowhere near 50, which was the approximate difference between Mohammed and Aisha.

You wanted us to stop ganging up on the troll who couldn't keep his name straight, let alone his stories - fine - I'll take on you. Oh, and before you go on, I'm not a Redneck, I'm not even a White, I'm not a Bible-thumper (incidentally, what good does it do anybody to thump bibles?), I'm not a Jew (I wouldn't put it past you to accuse your opponents of it). Do you really want to get into a pissing contest about whether Islam is exponentially more evil than the worst cult that ever existed in the world, let alone mainstream religions?

there may be more recoil than the cult of islam can stand if they try to destroy Christainity - Judaism or the other peaceful religions.

OT but for those that are interested, heres an interesting audio link on the call to Jihad. It is a translation of the book 'Constants in the path of Jihad'

It is long but well worth listening to.

http://xrl.us/constantjihad

This is the Palestinian mayor of the town that's firing the Kassems. The logic is breathtaking. It is exactly like listening to Salad-head above.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885830593&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

sanman

The emphasis was probably placed because of the audacious claim that the entire US, UK, Israel would be conquered by Islam - not just Israel being driven out of the "West Bank", US being driven out of Iraq, ... By contrast, all the other references were to the other infidel powers being expelled from parts of their territory, be it Russians from Chechnya, Indians from Kashmir.

However, this does bring up an important point. India has always been a diplomatic suck-up to Islamic countries in the UN and other international forums, hoping to "bribe" them into supporting India vis a vis Pakistan, not just on Kashmir, but in general, hoping that the Ummah would prefer Kafir India on the strength of its 100+ million Muslims over Islamic Pakistan. Nehru was practically in bed with Nasser, and Indira Gandhi with Arafat. Given this, diplomats in New Delhi would have thought that they've cornered the support of all Palestinian forces, and if aware of the above episode, would now be discovering that India is not supported in Jihadi circles, despite their servile policies. Gee, one wonders why?

The other point is that for Pakistanis, even if they got Kashmir, it would by no means satisfy them - they have wet dreams of re-creating the Moghul empire, and the only reason they haven't have been 4 cans of whoop-ass, along with the fact that India is now a nuclear power. But I wonder whether the Hamas video really doesn't share that pov? After all, Rome was never a part of any Islamic empire, but that didn't stop them from claiming that they'd occupy Rome. Given that lack of precedent, why should one not believe that they'd want to re-conquer Delhi - the seat of a number of Muslim empires from the Mamluqs to the Moghuls?

Sorry to beat a dead horse topic folks, but I just came in from work. Our troll of the day may be interested to know that Japanese scientists were, at one point, a few months ahead of the pace of the Manhattan Project. This was a race between Japan/Germany and the US, so no apology will ever be necessary for crossing the finish line first. The troll/orc also made note of some comments made in a speech by former Hewlett-Packard Ceo Carla Fiorina. This rather revisionist speech was effectively refuted by a gentleman of Assyrian heritage in: "What Arab Civilization?" Interestingly enough, Ms. Fiorina was forced to resign, resulting in a one day seven point surge in HP stock! So much for that source. I would like to express my sincere respect and solidarity with all posters who fight to inform and try to keep these important topics from being hijacked. Remember, the agents of chaos can only tap dance in circles around the truth.

This rather revisionist speech was effectively refuted by a gentleman of Assyrian heritage in: "What Arab Civilization?" Interestingly enough, Ms. Fiorina was forced to resign, resulting in a one day seven point surge in HP stock!

LOL :-)

km,
Saw the video you posted link to above. Britain actually allowed 'annihilations' and 'jihad' and 'mujahidin' to be used on the signs these zombies carried ?

Infidel Pride wrote:

"....India is not supported in Jihadi circles, despite their servile policies. Gee, one wonders why?"

Various reasons are at work here. I'll try to enumerate as follows:

1. Muslims in India, though India had and now has a Muslim head of state, are generally treacherous in owing allegiance to the land of their birth. You have correctly pointed out that the final goal of Muslims in India is to establish what we know as Nizam-i-Mustafa or the Islamic Caliphate. If they can succeed, then imagine the scenario: geographically right from Turkey and all the way upto Indonesia the stretch of land will be Islamic - posing a major threat to the world and particularly to USA. There is a homegrown body in India, known as Student Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) - and which has been banned - who have links with the Laskhar-e-Toiba )(LeT) that plan attacks in various Hindu temples (such as Varanasi) and with the objective of spreading terror. The SIMI has its ideology fashoined after the Salafi and Wahabi school of Islamic jurisprudence. The latter two are accepted by Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

2. Hindus in India are cowards. Yes, this seems like a rude and arrogant statement, but the wave of conquests made by the Islamic barbarians are a testimony to this fact. Read any history book by Will Durant, Arnold Toynbee to name a few, and you shall see Hindu cowardice and their penchant for inaction in face of imminent threat as real reasons for them being overrun and destroyed. However Hindus seem to suffer from what we know as the "Stockholm Syndrome". Quite strangely they try to criticize those who would say anything against Islam and Muslims. Just think: a Muslim painter Maqbool Fida Hussain painted Hindu goddesses nude and in sexually provocative postures. There was some outcry, but eventually majority of the educated Hindus expressed sympathy for him, when newspapers made routine newsitems about him. Can you imagine what would have happened if a Hindu painter, under the guise of artistic freedom of expression, painted Prophet Mohammed having sex with his child bride Ayesha ? Wouldn't hell break loose all over the world ? The population of the Hindus would just be halved - some global warming would reduce eventually - as people would exhalke less carbon monoxide.

3. India's (Hindu) right wing political party (BJP) is actually a bunch of cowards too. They are sheep in lion's clothing. To sedt the records straight, when the BJP-led NDA (National Democratic Alliance) was in power, they enacted a law that doled out the federal taxpayers money (which had a significant Hindu contribution) for Muslims in India to perform Hajj (pilgrimage). It was pointed out that Hindus are polytheists and hence taking their tax contribution was haram. But, the tradition was installed just to win hearts of the "Muslim brethren". Another gem of a incident was the Indian Airlines hijacking. Maulana Masood Azhar (Jaish-i-Mohammed terrorist in Kashmir) was languishing in Indian jail and the airline was hijacked to Kandahar. The foreign minister Jaswant Singh personally escorted the terrorist to Kandahar and secured the release of the hostages. Another one which is quite funny, is that when Pakistan-based and trained terrorists attacked the Indian parliament, Indian Govt. went ahead and still committed itself to mending fences with Pakistan whose very existence since 1947 has been a strong anti-Hindu agenda.

The Congress is no better. They overturned the Supreme Court law to allow Muslims to marry 4 times and hence upheld polygamy. There is one set of civil laws for Muslims and another set for all others. No Uniform Civil Code. In one of the latest moves, and friendly gestures, the Congress-led UPA Govt. is now on the verge of passing a bill that would reserve 50% of all seats at the prestigious IITs, IIMs and other elite educational and reserach institutions for other backward castes (that includes Muslims). The Govt. has threatened with severe tax penalties if the private orgs. don't follow suit.

So, India is a country which I have observed is full of contradictions. It will sooner fall prey to Muslim hegemony.

In view of the above, your comment about Hamas promising to terrorize India makes perfect and legitimate sense.

Happy hour for Muslims in India !

Mohammed bin Kafir Abu Jahal,
The head of state of India is not a muslim. The President of India is a muslim in name only. And the President does not have the powers. The Prime Minister has.

Hindus in India are cowards. Buddy, so were the Jews, Christians and Persians were cowards whom the muslim overran before reaching India. NO culture anticipated a religion such as islam. Even today, there are very few people who see the picture as it is, that there are no 'moderate' muslims. Don't insult the memories of all the Kshtriya warriors who fought the muslim scrouge. This is a reminder.

www.voi.org/books/negaind/ch2.htm

Don't give up on your country. It did not give up on you.

Mbkaj

Largely agree with you, although I think the Congress was/is far worse than the NDA. About us being cowards, though, I wouldn't characterize it that way, or we would have Islamized just like the people from Morocco to Brunei. Throughout Indian history, there was always at any given point of time some Hindu ruler or the other - from Yasovardhan of Kanauj, Bappa Rawal, Veer Hammir, Harihara & Bukka, Rana Kumbha, Krishnadeva Raya, Rana Sangha, Rana Pratap, Rana Raj Singh, Durgadas, Shivaji, Baji Rao, et al who fought the various Muslim forces over 800 years.

The policy of appeasement has been aggravating to watch. But as the events after 9/11 showed, there has been a public awakening among Hindus as to what Muslims are really like, and it's very different. In political circles, things are no better than in the rest of the world, since no democratic government anywhere in the world wants to take the step of deporting Muslims. However, the last time I visited India, I noticed that among the TV channels, there was a "Q" channel that was 24 hours Quran, of some Mullah jabbering away in Arabic. If India doesn't do something about this Islamic problem, it won't fall prey to Muslim hegemony: instead, there will be a civil war. In such an event, the attempts by political charlatans to divvy up groups by castes and have Muslims and certain sub-groups of Hindus ally would be a non-starter, as has been demonstrated strongly in Gujarat.

I don't see this government lasting - only problem, after the death of Pramod Mahajan, the BJP has yet to find a successor to Vajpayee or Advani.

Infidel Pride wrote:
"If India doesn't do something about this Islamic problem, it won't fall prey to Mus>lim hegemony: instead, there will be a civil war."

NO IT WILL NOT . Otherwise it would have happened in 1946 when Muhammad Surahwahrdy's army slaughtered about 2,000 Hindus in Calcutta. Gandhi forgave Surahwahrdy. Again, it could have happened in August 15, 1947 and it didn't. It co9uld have happened in 1971 - liberation of Bangladesh it didn't. Regarding the Bangladesh scenario, I suggest you read the book by Susan Brownmiller, AGAINST OUR WILL: MEN, WOMEN AND RAPE. (ISBN: 0449908208). In particular read the gruesome rape of a 16 year old Hindu woman on the day of her marriage by Pakistani army men, andx the razakars. About 1 million Hindu women were raped according to Susan Bronmiller. (This is decsribed in pages 78-86).

So, these and other incidents did not incite Civil War and I am doubting that if any other incident would, Hindus are passive and definitely cowards if they are evaluated collectively. Individual warriors have anointed the pages of history. However, you forgot the incident of Prithviraj Chauhan and Muhammad Ghauri, and the Jaisingh mix. Collectively Muslims are trained to fight and have an ideology: Nizam-i-Mustafa. Thats the religion. Hindus are not, obviously warriors. To fight a War and win, you need people with ideology. Do Hindus have one, except the strongman in Gujarat, Mr. Modi - who is just a one man show and will most likely be killed by a LeT operative. If at IISc, a professor at a Conference can be shot dead by a LeT, for no good reason, then it is probable Mr. Modi will get sprayed by Islamic bullets adding to the rejoice of Muslims in India. Muslims obviously have the tenacity in killing infidels. Also, please describe the effective action when two Indian Engineers, Kutty and Surayanarayana were beheaded by the Taliban. What has been the scenario in India, following that ? How have the Hindus reacted ?

I think lets write off India. Even if UPA falls -which it looks like it will - BJP cannot take the helm. The only alternative are the Communist parties, and they have been traditional buddies of Muslims, although I read in the Times of India that Buddhadev Bhattacharya is a different type of cat - of separate gene than Joyti Basu. (Of course its anybody's guess how Mullah (Mulayam) Singh Yadav would play his hand.)

Anyway, my whole point is that there should be one place in the world that is Islam-free, and in my view USA can be made rid of Islam.

USA should enact and implement rules and legislation to make the practice of Islam very, very difficult, and near to impossible. That would be a good first step. However the faint hope that I have will be quickly extinguished if Democrats like John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Russ Feingold are voted back to power.

Infidel Pride wrote:
"If India doesn't do something about this Islamic problem, it won't fall prey to Mus>lim hegemony: instead, there will be a civil war."

NO IT WILL NOT . Otherwise it would have happened in 1946 when Muhammad Surahwahrdy's army slaughtered about 2,000 Hindus in Calcutta. Gandhi forgave Surahwahrdy. Again, it could have happened in August 15, 1947 and it didn't. It co9uld have happened in 1971 - liberation of Bangladesh it didn't. Regarding the Bangladesh scenario, I suggest you read the book by Susan Brownmiller, AGAINST OUR WILL: MEN, WOMEN AND RAPE. (ISBN: 0449908208). In particular read the gruesome rape of a 16 year old Hindu woman on the day of her marriage by Pakistani army men, andx the razakars. About 1 million Hindu women were raped according to Susan Bronmiller. (This is decsribed in pages 78-86).

So, these and other incidents did not incite Civil War and I am doubting that if any other incident would, Hindus are passive and definitely cowards if they are evaluated collectively. Individual warriors have anointed the pages of history. However, you forgot the incident of Prithviraj Chauhan and Muhammad Ghauri, and the Jaisingh mix. Collectively Muslims are trained to fight and have an ideology: Nizam-i-Mustafa. Thats the religion. Hindus are not, obviously warriors. To fight a War and win, you need people with ideology. Do Hindus have one, except the strongman in Gujarat, Mr. Modi - who is just a one man show and will most likely be killed by a LeT operative. If at IISc, a professor at a Conference can be shot dead by a LeT, for no good reason, then it is probable Mr. Modi will get sprayed by Islamic bullets adding to the rejoice of Muslims in India. Muslims obviously have the tenacity in killing infidels. Also, please describe the effective action when two Indian Engineers, Kutty and Surayanarayana were beheaded by the Taliban. What has been the scenario in India, following that ? How have the Hindus reacted ?

I think lets write off India. Even if UPA falls -which it looks like it will - BJP cannot take the helm. The only alternative are the Communist parties, and they have been traditional buddies of Muslims, although I read in the Times of India that Buddhadev Bhattacharya is a different type of cat - of separate gene than Joyti Basu. (Of course its anybody's guess how Mullah (Mulayam) Singh Yadav would play his hand.)

Anyway, my whole point is that there should be one place in the world that is Islam-free, and in my view USA can be made rid of Islam.

USA should enact and implement rules and legislation to make the practice of Islam very, very difficult, and near to impossible. That would be a good first step. However the faint hope that I have will be quickly extinguished if Democrats like John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Russ Feingold are voted back to power.

Catherine,

Thank you for your simple English translations of the Koran, Hadiths, and other Islamic teachings. I can see why the Muslims get upset when they are translated into English, because they do not want the truth to get out.

Sam/Salad Bar:

Re: The Crusades.

Another one coming, big boy; get ready.
You want to take over the world; come to my house, and meet mr 30.06.

This is America, we have guns, and we're locked and loaded. Stick to Europe. We'll even kill the few cops that try to defend you when push comes to shove.

That's the name of that tune, goathumper. Come and (try to) get me.

Dearest Crusader,
Have you ever stepped to a man who had 20 of his friends behind him, and punched him in the face? and upon getting your ass kicked by all 20 of them, could you than go home at 4am and wake up at 6am to go to work, only to be told by your boss you can have the week off!!!

This is the difference between a true Mujahid and the cowardly crusaders

This is one troll infested thread.

Sam~ so you are saying it takes 20 of you to take down ONE person?

Pathetic. No wonder you will lose.

Not really, because i won the heart of their girls!!!! and what comes around goes around,

GARY ARE U THICK, I WAS THE 1 AND THEY WERE THE 20, HOPE THAT WAS JUST DUMB SARCASM ON YOUR PART.

Heres the a breakdown, deal with it
> i think the majority of western people are decent people, its the Americanist extremist from among them who are a threat.
> Killing innocent civilans is wrong, whether its the 4000 in 9/11 and 7/11 or the 2-3 million killed by the USA over the past hundred years.
> Every muslim, should want the caliphate to return, and we can see why, look at whats happened to muslims, both internally and through external aggression.
> Aint it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, to demonise a Potential United States of Islam.
>but again having the borders removed will destroy the western philosophy of devide and conquer.
> so basically Morocco,Egypt,Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Saudi, Jordan, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, indonesia, Turkey, Syria,U.A.E, Qatar, Oman... ect coming together as one, would militarily and financially put the USA and His wives to shame.
> this would also end the oppression and crimes against islam, which currently go unaccounted.
> Granted the state of the caliphate will depend on the caliph, a good caliph = good for all and a bad caliph will ruin it.
>on the whole terrorist actions will also cease, as those lost will have help and support, and will be able to join a military.
>True say you wont have access to the cheap oil, and you will have to remove the invisible stars of Saudi arabia, Iraq ect from you flag,

Hamas, we will bury you.

You may have a few minor victories because we in the west are more respectful of the law, that is why you in the west are able to ride roughshod using the stupid human rights lawyers.

Once the majority of the population of the countries concerned realise that Islam is a greater threat than the risk of Breaking the law you will be forced back into the desert where you belong.

Enjoy your minor victories for the time being, you can play with the tail of the lion, but beware when he wakes.

Patriot5,

salahudin is a troll with too much time on his hands.

Folks, have an interesting commetary about the short term and long term war against Islamic jihad. Here is the URL :

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzcyZTc3YTQwODY5NDJlNWYxOWRmNTk1OWIyM2Q1MzY=

salahudin,

You did not win the hearts of the females here on this board.

Salahudin - are you a pediphile, just like your prophet, Mo?

You stated that you, "won the heart of the girls", and where I come from that means very young woman or CHILD.

And anyone who feels the need to brag about the "girls" he's supposedly "won the heart of" is clearly trying to make-up for the lack thereof. I would bet that you are currently WITHOUT a "girl", and that any girls you've encountered in the past ran for the hills and were left traumatized by your obvious charm.

On a previous thread you stated having a boyfriend, so now I'm really confused -- are you gay as well? Mixed messages are NOT nice!

Khalid, sam, salahudin, et al., a most educational post. Props to you because you have at been informative.

I have already seen confirmation that muslims (even white muslim converts) are filled with nothing short of anti-white bigotry. Frankly, that's ok. There is plenty of room for blind hate in this world and it exists on both sides so fair enough.

But this post about a caliphate amazes me!

Is this a real plan that is taught in the middle east? It is incredibly idealistic. I know the islamic nations blame all their current situation on Democracy, Western culture, USA, Israel, etc. Modern day muslims are blind to thier own faults and weaknesses (aka fear of individual freedoms, favoring autocratic rulers, islam as a political solution) but to belive that one good Caliph will fix it all its astonishing!! Which flavor is islam will that Caliph be, sunni or shia? In other words, which side of islam will be eliminated to have the final peace of the grand islamic caliphate?

Strangely i find my heart warming towards you lot, i am begining to feel love and respect for you lot, BUT WHY...................

and then id dawns on me, some of your children will revert to islam, some of your grand children will revert to islam, some will be born and stay muslims, MOST of your great grand children will be muslim, ALL of your great great grand children will be muslim. So you are inshalla the parents of the next great UMMAH, and ummah without non of the CULTURAL retardness, which gives the west its only ammunition to critisize ISLAM, eg, Forced Marriages= cultural, Women not driving= cultural, Honour killings= cultural, get my drift!!!!!
wishing you all the best of health and the most intelligent and strong of offspring....

I think lets write off India. Even if UPA falls -which it looks like it will - BJP cannot take the helm. The only alternative are the Communist parties, and they have been traditional buddies of Muslims, although I read in the Times of India that Buddhadev Bhattacharya is a different type of cat - of separate gene than Joyti Basu. (Of course its anybody's guess how Mullah (Mulayam) Singh Yadav would play his hand.)

That attitude is no different from the Inshallah fatalism - one of the charming qualities of the Mohammedan. And after displaying that attitude, you have the gall to call Hindus the cowards? Look at a mirror, if a coward is what you're looking for.

Your political analysis above is ludicrous. The Marxists are at best a tri-state party - prominent only in Bengal, Kerela and Tripura. The fact that they are a majority owned subsidiary of Islam, while disturbing, only amounts to much when they are a part of a government coalition, like they are now. But when they are in the opposition, they are in no power to affect, say, India's border policy vis a vis Bangladesh. (Incidentally, Bhattacharya differs from Basu in that he is pro-business, but in terms of allegance to Islam, he's no different.) If the BJP, which is strong enough to come to power on its own in any given election in 7 states, and with allies in most other states, is in your analysis, incapable of taking the helm, what makes you think that the Marxists can?

On the partition era examples that you gave about why the Hindus didn't retaliate, there was those MF's Gandhi and Nehru at the time, and the Congress had a monopoly on influence at the time, being the major pro-independence party. Not only is Indian society radically different from what it was then - even politically, the Congress today is a political shadow of its former self, and like the BJP, is incapable of forming a government on its own.

I agree with you that the BJP has been guilty of some unforgivable acts of cowardice, like Jaswant Singh escorting 5 terrorists to Kandahar to get the hostages of the hijacked airline freed. I am no shill for that party, and have had problems with some of their policy platforms, like swadeshi (which is the antithesis of why India is prosperous today). But of the parties in India, it has shown that it won't tolerate dhimmitude beyond a point. That's why when Advani made his speech in Pakistan praising Jinnah as a secular leader, his career was over. The BJP's Hindutva constituency revolted, and the VHP and Bajrang Dal have distanced themselves from him. If the BJP does return to power with some allies, it's unlikely to do so by projecting him as PM, since he is damaged goods.

Anyway, my whole point is that there should be one place in the world that is Islam-free, and in my view USA can be made rid of Islam. USA should enact and implement rules and legislation to make the practice of Islam very, very difficult, and near to impossible. That would be a good first step. However the faint hope that I have will be quickly extinguished if Democrats like John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Russ Feingold are voted back to power. Posted by: Mohammed bin Kafir Abu Jahal

The enactment of laws limiting the practice of Islam is more likely in Europe than in the US - look at how Scientology is banned in Germany. In the US, making Islam and Jihad synonimous has not happened, and there are almost nobody in public I can think of who's doing it. It is an uphill battle everywhere, and we need to get the entire Infidel world united if we are to win it. Key to this effort would be 4 countries - US, Israel, Russia and yes, India. If any of these fold, it's over. So don't be in such a rush to write off anybody.

I don't know, Sal, you tell me.

Posted by: salahudin [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 23, 2006 10:10 AM
Heres the a breakdown, deal with it
> i think the majority of western people are decent people, its the Americanist extremist from among them who are a threat.

Define extremist salad, I will wager you mean those that believe in the constitution and the individual freedoms that it enshrines. You as a Muslim are a collectivist, you believe in mob rule, as a Musulman you can not understand the concept of free thought and creativity. You are servile in nature and need to have your life structured from the start of day to the finish. You are incapable of thinking for yourself and see those that can as a threat. Those that succumb to collective ideologies are moral cowards, you have been brainwashed by some of the oldest tricks in the book. Like the Heroin addict who thinks his drug is the only way to view the world, your religion has corrupted your intellectual and reasoning capacity so that you see the world through the distorted and psychotic lens of Islam.

> Killing innocent civilans is wrong, whether its the 4000 in 9/11 and 7/11 or the 2-3 million killed by the USA over the past hundred years.

Define innocent civilian’s salad; this is a common fallback position for Muslims and a typical piece of Taqiya. How can you as a Muslim and one who believes in Jihad consider any infidel innocent? I refer to these quotes from your sick book.

• "Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme." (Koran 8:37)
• The Koran instructs not to make friendship with Jews and Christians (Koran 5:51) but to war against them: "When the Sacred Months are over, kill those who ascribe partners to God wheresoever ye find them; seize them, encompass them, and ambush them; then if they repent and observe prayer and pay the alms, let them go their way (Koran 4:5). "Fight against those who believe not in God nor in the Last Day, who... refuse allegiance to the True Faith from among those who have received the Book, until they humbly pay tribute out of hand." (Koran 9:29) Note: These verses distinguish between warfare against pagans, and against Jews and Christians.[17]
• "...kill the disbelievers wherever we find them" (Koran 2:191); "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" (Koran 9:5); "murder them and treat them harshly" (Koran 9:123).
• "Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin." (Koran 69:30-37)
• "Strike off the heads of the disbelievers"; and after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" (Koran 47:4).
• "Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers"; "smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them" (Koran 8:12; cp. 8:60).
• "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern against them. Their abode is Hell - an evil refuge indeed" (Koran 9:73).
• "slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace..." (Koran 5:34).
• "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods" (Koran 22:19-22)

Every muslim, should want the caliphate to return, and we can see why, look at whats happened to muslims, both internally and through external aggression.

Again you state clearly that your ideal is a system where the personal responsibility for your actions is removed and placed into the hands of a theocratic elite who wish nothing more than your subjugation to fascistic regime. What about those people who do not wish to live under a caliphate and refuse the concept of dhimmitude. What would you do with those people, how can you convince those with even half a brain that their fate isn’t outlined in the verses I have posted above.

> Aint it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, to demonise a Potential United States of Islam.

No it is not, especially when that system has built into it concepts of apartheid, discrimination, misogyny and aggressive warfare.

>but again having the borders removed will destroy the western philosophy of devide and conquer.so basically Morocco,Egypt,Tunisia, Libya, Algeria, Saudi, Jordan, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, indonesia, Turkey, Syria,U.A.E, Qatar, Oman... ect coming together as one, would militarily and financially put the USA and His wives to shame.

How do you work that one out, apart from oil revenue, what products do any of those countries produce that could come close to competing with the US on a military or economic level.

I suppose Afghanistan makes quite a bit of money from Heroin but thats no where near enough to fund a modern day military.

> this would also end the oppression and crimes against islam, which currently go unaccounted.

What crimes are these, resistance to a totalitarian ideology is a legitimate form of self defense.

> Granted the state of the caliphate will depend on the caliph, a good caliph = good for all and a bad caliph will ruin it.

You admit that a Caliphate would be a dictatorship and the only way it is going to work is if the dictator is imbued with some form of benevolence, this really is reasoning at its most primitive.

>on the whole terrorist actions will also cease, as those lost will have help and support, and will be able to join a military.

This would only work if the whole world is subjugated and held under the jack boot of Islam, until that point we can expect aggressive Jihad to continue. No thank you!

>True say you wont have access to the cheap oil, and you will have to remove the invisible stars of Saudi arabia, Iraq ect from you flag,

I look forward to the day when we remove our energy dependence from ME oil, this day is fast approaching and once the financial support dries up from oil money so will the Jihad outside of the umma.

You have not produced one single coherent argument as to why Islam should be allowed to flourish; you have merely highlighted the fascistic ideologies which underlie your religion and how these are a threat to the rest of the world.

Your rants sound like those who dream of a communist/socialist utopia who believe any action justifies the means. I look forward to the day when your kind either wake up from your collective psychosis or are dead as a result of the free world rising up and exterminating the fascist Muslim presence that currently threatens our progress into the future.

"Offspring?" Careful, Sal, your softer side is showing.

Here in America we call our offspring "children". Seems to have a warmer ring to it.

Sal,

Keep on dreaming. There is a huge Christian boom in the global south and as Middle East expert Daniel Pipes has said, the Christian faith is the fastest growing faith in the world. The global south is why the Christian faith is growing fast. Expect the global south to send missionaries to the west. Also expect a Christian re-birth in the west.

Sal,

6 million Muslims are leaving Islam each year.

Actually a caliph is very different from a dictator, the concept of voting was first implemented in ISLAM, unlike your dictator BUSH, The caliph will be voted in, he will be held accountable for his actions by a panel of judges including women, and one supreme judge. so unlike your Bush and all the BUSHITS he wont have free reign to massacre and kill

Dude, you need to get a dictionary -- please!!!

Look up the word "dictator", because once again you revealed what an uneducated moron you are. Bush is no more a dictator than you are the Prince of Peace!

Actually you mohammedan dimwit, the Greeks were voting a thousand years before Mo-Dogg was even born . The Romans voted. The word "vote" derives from the Latin votum. The Celts voted. The Germanic peoples voted. These people were voting for their leaders while your ancestors were still flipping over rocks to find grubs to eat.

You need to go back on your Lithium. Your schizophrenia is getting ridiculous.

Ha Ha Ha!!!

Sal,

You forget that the west had many good things invented, thanks to the ancient Greeks and Romans.

I want a new caliph, the muslims will war upon anyone stupid enough to claim that title, he will be from the wrong, sect, race, or place, let them all kill each other, the last muslim can be the caliph.

Hang on, kill each other? whats the murder rate in the USA, how did crack and or heroin cripple your cities, ahhhh yes, we all know

Salad man changes topics more than I change my grandsons diapers.

Freewoman that sounds like a confession of child torture

Saladin:
Sam was not so fitting?, after all it stands for surfacetoairmissile.... Dubai the greatest city in the world?, built by Americans, British, Dutch, Germans & Philipinos (christian), Arabs among poorest people in the world?, tell your princes to stop losing all those petro-dollars whilst gambling...
you come across as a very uneducated but very indoctrinated pimp...I bet you´d kill your sister in the name of honor. You are british? NOOO WAY, British people are not muslim, only their anaphabetic immigrants are....etc.,etc.,etc.

anyway, this figure has hijacked the whole thread over 120 or so posts, (they are good at that)

cosmic avenger, errm honour killing is a cultural evil which affects people of all faiths from the sub continent,however when a hindu kills his daughter for rejecting ram ban krish sing, the media dont cover it, or mention it as man kills daughter for rejecting faith, thus manipulating peoples ignorance into thinking ahhh another muslim

Have u been to dubai?

Saladin, I have been very many times to the subcontinent, have to meet a hindu yet that is killing for honor (loadacrap you trying to tell me, found it where?, in a muslim script?), and yes, I been to Dubai very many times too, when it was a lousy arab port to becoming a lousy "modern city"... (ps. it will fail ever to become modern because of the people in it...)
Its not the money that will make it modern, but the spirit - you wanna see a modern city I´d say you visit Seoul or Tokyo... That "modern" "good-looking" port of Dubai will be washed away in 2-3 decades. after all the architects were only after the money.. (but so far this has been kept secret to keep dodos like yourself impressed)

Yoo Hoo, Salad!!: The rate of murders and other crimes in the US is high largely because of the high amount of immigration of people from the Third World countries where corruption is far worse than in the USA and not because of anything indigenous to American society. Incidentally, Muslims have committed homicides in American cities and are known to both traffic and deal in illicit drugs to the American non-Muslims (they do this everywhere elsetoo). So don'r be so smug. Islam is no angel in America's social difficuties and you know it and WE know it.

By the way, SALAD, did you know that----

In Bangladesh during the 1971 Civil War there, anti-Hindu pogroms resulted in thecold-blooded murder of over 3 million Hindus by Muslim lunatics. That figure exceeds the number of murders commited in the United States during the entire TWENTIETH CENTURY!

Anti-infidel pogroms committed by Islamic lunatics have taken place all over the world.
Most intelligent people will take their chances with problems like urban crime and economic inequality rather than live under the suffocating and brutal repression faced daily under Islam.

I have lived in United States for going on two generations, I have never been subjected to a life-threatening encounter with criminals except for once four years ago...and the criminals were Arabs!!!

I apologise if this is out of context but I really don't know where this should go.

P.M. Olmert is still hell-bent on tearing down Jewish settlements in the West Bank area. Guess what he has offered as an alternative?

The Jewish settlers can elect to become members and residents of THE PALESTINE AUTHORITY!!!!

Where does this insanity come from? The Jews already tried jumping from Masada and that really solved nothing.

This is like volunteering for the holocaust to find out if Hitler is serious!

For the first time in almost 70 years my mind has completely rejected any consideration or even discussion of this abomination.

Sal -- how many of you are there? Most of the time I can undertand your posts, but this new guys an idiot. What is "ram ban krish sing"?

Any takers on what the hell he's talking about?

Have u been to dubai?
Posted by: salahudin at June 23, 2006 06:21 PM
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Why would any sane person want to visit the middle east controlled by the cult of islam and the filth that it creates on a daily basis.

Just as the Jews ran from Gaza, the Americans will run from Iraq and Afghanistan and the Russians will run from Chechnya, and the Indian will run from Kashmir, and our children will be released from Guantanamo. The prisoners will be released by Allah's will, not by peaceful means and not by agreements, but they will be released by the sword, they will be released by the gun".
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Stupidity and ignorance knows no bounds in the cult of islam.

What is "ram ban krish sing"? Any takers on what the hell he's talking about? Posted by: champ

Since Sal can't lie about Christians or Jews that blatantly, he's doing it about Hindus.

Sal, isn't it time for a new name?

Freewoman that sounds like a confession of child torture Posted by: salahudin

Another thing, sal - honor killing has been happening in all sorts of Islamic countries - not just Pakistan or Bangladesh, but also Iran, Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, KSA, Egypt, et al. So it's not a cultural phenomenon - it's very much Islamic.

P.S. Okay, this thread now has the record number of posts. Lets see when the next one comes up.

"ram ban krish sing"

What the hell is this ? I do understand 'ram' and 'ban', and 'krish' is a name, but what is 'sing'. This is not a Hindi word. And the overall sentence makes no sense anyway.

We are having record no. of postings. I think this must be the 305th.