An update to this story from CNN, with thanks to Mackie:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A group linked to al Qaeda in Iraq claims it has killed four Russian diplomats, according to a statement posted on a Web site on Wednesday.The hostages were killed, the statement said, after Moscow did not meet demands to withdraw troops from Chechnya and "release all our brothers and sisters" from prison within 48 hours.
The Russian Foreign Ministry, however, assumes the diplomats are still alive, according to a report from the Russian news agency Interfax.
The Mujahedeen Shura Council said in a Monday statement it was holding four diplomats hostage.
But, the Wednesday posting said, "this government didn't care about the diplomats and didn't give their lives any value."
Instead, it said, the government merely asked for the release of the hostages "while continuing their fight against Islam and its people."
The Shura Council decided to kill the hostages, the statement said, adding that blood was on the Russian government's hands "and there will be an example for others after them."
We should understand that Russia is facing these jihadis in Chechenya. By blaming Putin for 'violating human rights', the West only antagonizes him and he makes short time blunders merely to spite out the West.
US_infidel
I do not think that Putin would actually have given iranians any reactor. He is facing these very jihadis in Chechenya, on his own land, and has much more reason to understand who his enemies are. Brilliant chess players, Russians.
Vlad dear
You might want to re-think working with Iran and Syria on their nuclear "plants". Just say, "Nyet".
June 21, 2006
It is obvious that a reporter named Bender[who was on cspan] works for the Bostan Globe did not do his homework and is aiding and abetting the enemy and spreading lies WHY?? For 1 ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] said we [THE USA] were a paper tiger and would run away .WELL THESE COLORS DON’T RUN! So now that his party [the democrats] want to run away like cowards Well you can’t change history it IS!!!
http://www.beecy.net/frank/
http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
A Letter From Osama bin Laden to the American People
released to press 11-17-2002 or thereabouts
Why teaching the truth about history is so important??
http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
Jihad against Jews and Crusaders
issued by The World Islamic Front, Feb 23, 1998
http://www.islamistwatch.org/main.html
Exhaustion of the economic and financial resources
Destruction of the country infrastructures
Dissociation of the society
Destruction of the oil industries
The presence of the USA Crusader military forces on land, sea and air of the states of the Islamic Gulf is the greatest danger threatening the largest oil reserve in the world. The existence of these forces in the area will provoke the people of the country and induces aggression on their religion, feelings and prides and push them to take up armed struggle against the invaders occupying the land. The spread of the fighting in the region will expose the oil wealth to the danger of being burned up.
The economic interest of the States of the Gulf and the land of the two Holy Places will be damaged and even a greater damage will be caused to the economy of the world. I would like to alert my brothers, the Mujahideen, the sons of the nation, to protect this oil wealth and not to include it in the battle as it is a great Islamic wealth and a large economical power essential for the soon to be established Islamic state, by Allah's Permission and Grace.
We also warn the aggressors, the USA, against burning this Islamic wealth, a crime which they may commit in order to prevent it, at the end of the war, from falling in the hands of its' legitimate owners and to cause economical damages to the competitors of the USA in Europe or the Far East, particularly Japan which is the major consumer of the oil of the region.
Division of the land of the two Holy Places, and annexing of the northerly part of it by Israel. Dividing the land of the two Holy Places is an essential demand of the Zionist Crusader alliance. The existence of such a large country with its huge resources under the leadership of the forthcoming Islamic State, by Allah's Grace, represent a serious danger to the very existence of the Zionist state in Palestine.
The Nobel Ka'ba, the Qiblah of all Muslims makes the land of the two Holy Places a symbol for the unity of the Islamic world. Moreover, the presence of the world largest oil reserve makes the land of the two Holy Places an important economical power in the Islamic world. The sons of the two Holy Places are directly related to the life style (Seerah) of their forefathers, the companions, may Allah be pleased with them. They consider the Seerah of their forefathers as a source and an example for reestablishing the greatness of this Ummah and to raise the word of Allah again.
SO HE WANTS TO USE OIL TO CONTROL THE WORLD?
Furthermore the presence of a population of fighters in the south of Yemen, fighting in the cause of Allah, is a strategic threat to the Zionist Crusader alliance in the area. The Prophet (Allah's Blessing And Salutations On Him) said "around twelve thousands will emerge from Aden/Abian helping the cause of Allah and His messenger, they are the best, in the time, between me and them" narrated by Ahmad with a correct trustworthy reference.
An internal war is a great mistake, no matter what reasons are there for it. The presence of the occupier, the USA forces will control the outcome of the battle for the benefit of the international Kufr.
I address now my brothers of the security and military forces and the national guards may Allah preserve you hoard for Islam and the Muslims people "O you protectors of unity and guardians of Faith. O you descendent of the ancestors who carried the light (torch) of guidance and spread it all over the world. O you grandsons of Sa'd Ibn Abi Waqqaas , Almothanna Ibn Haritha Ash Shaybani, Alga'ga' Ibn Amroo AlTameemi and those pious companions who fought Jihad alongside them; you competed to join the army and the guard forces with the intention to carry out Jihad in the cause of Allah raising His word and to defend the faith of Islam and the land of the two Holy Places against the invaders and the occupying forces.' That is the ultimate level of believing in this religion "Deen". But the regime had reversed these principles and their understanding, humiliating the Ummah and disobeying Allah.
Half a century ago the rulers promised the Ummah to regain the first Qiblah, but fifty years later new generation arrived and the promises have been changed;
BOY HE IS STUPID OVER A CENTUREY AGO THE MULSUMS SIGNED A DEAL TO GET IN THE LON SO IT WAS THE ARABS WHO BROKE THEIR PROMISE???
AlAqsa Mosque handed over to the Zionists and the wounds of the Ummah still bleeding there. At the time when the Ummah has not regained the first Qiblah and the rout of the journey of the Prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him), and despite of all of the above, the Saudi regime had stunt the Ummah in the remaining sanctities, the Holy city of Makka and the mosque of the Prophet (AlMasjid AnNabawy), by calling the Crusaders army to defend the regime. The crusaders were permitted to be in the land of the two Holy Places. Not surprisingly though, the King himself wore the cross on his chest. The country was widely opened from the north to the south and from east to the west for the crusaders. The land was filled with the military bases of the USA and the allies. The regime became unable to keep control without the help of these bases.
You know more than any body else about the size, intention and the danger of the presence of the USA military bases in the area. The regime betrayed the Ummah and joined the Kufr, assisting and helping them against the Muslims. It is well known that this is one of the ten "voiders" of Islam, deeds of deIslamization. By opening the Arab peninsula to the Crusaders, the regime disobeyed and acted against what has been enjoined by the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him), while he was at the bed of his death "Expel the polytheists out of the Arab Peninsula" (narrated by AlBukhari) and "If I survive, Allah willing, I'll expel the Jews and the Christians out of the Arab Peninsula" saheeh Aljame' AsSagheer.
It is out of date and no longer acceptable to claim that the presence of the Crusaders is necessity and only a temporary measures to protect the land of the two Holy Places. Especially when the civil and the military infrastructures of Iraq were savagely destroyed showing the depth of the Zionist Crusaders hatred to the Muslims and their children, and the rejection of the idea of replacing the Crusaders forces by an Islamic force composed of the sons of the country and other Muslim people. Moreover the foundations of the claim and the claim itself were demolished and wiped out by the sequence of speeches given by the leaders of the Kufr in America.
AGAIN IRAQ?
The latest of these speeches was the one given by William Perry, the Defense Secretary, after the explosion in AlKhobar saying that: the presence of the American solders there is to protect the interest of the USA. The imprisoned Sheikh Safar AlHawali, may Allah hasten his release, wrote a book of seventy pages; in it he presented evidence and proof that the presence of the Americans in the Arab Peninsula is a preplanned military occupation. The regime wants to deceive the Muslims people in the same manner when the Palestinian fighters, Mujahideen, were deceived causing the loss of AlAqsa Mosque.
In 1936, the awakened Muslims nation of Palestine started their great struggle, Jihad, against the British occupying forces. Britain was impotent to stop the Mujahideen and their Jihad, but their devil inspired that there is no way to stop the armed struggle in Palestine unless through their agent King Abdul Azeez, who managed to deceives the Mujahideen. King Abdul Azeez carried out his duty to his British masters. He sent his two sons to meet the Mujahideen leaders and to inform them that King Abdul Azeez would guarantee the promises made by the British government in leaving the area and responding positively to the demands of the Mujahideen if the latter stop their Jihad. And so King Abdul Azeez caused the loss of the first Qiblah of the Muslims people. The King joined the Crusaders against the Muslims and instead of supporting the Mujahideen in the cause of Allah to liberate the AlAqsa Mosque he disappointed and humiliated them.
Today, his son, King Fahd, is trying to deceive the Muslims for the second time so as to loose what is left of the sanctities. When the Islamic world resented the arrival of the Crusader forces to the land of the two Holy Places, the King told lies to the Ulamah (who issued Fatwas about the arrival of the Americans) and to the gathering of the Islamic leaders at the conference of Rabitah which was held in the Holy City of Makka. The King said that: "the issue is simple, the American and the alliance forces will leave the area in few months".
Today it is seven years since their arrival and the regime is not able to move them out of the country. The regime made no confession about its inability and has carried on lying to the people claiming that the Americans will leave. But never, never again; a believer will not be bitten twice from the same hole or snake! Happy is the one who takes note of the sad experience of the others!! Instead of motivating the army, the guards and the security men to oppose the occupiers, the regime used these men to protect the invaders, and further deepening the humiliation and the betrayal. We bemoan this and can only say: "No power and power acquiring except through Allah".
To the small group of men within the army, police and security forces, who have been tricked and pressurized by the regime to attack the Muslims and spill their blood, we would like to remind them of this "I promise war against those who take my friends as their enemy" narrated by Al_Bukhari. and his saying (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) "In the Day of Judgment a man comes holding another and complaining being slain by him. Allah, blessed be His Names, asks: Why did you slay him? The accused replies, "I did so that all exaltation may be Yours. Allah, blessed be His Names, says, "All exaltation is indeed mine! Another man comes holding a fourth with a similar complaint. Allah, blessed be His Names, asks: Why did you kill him? The accused replies "I did so that exaltation may be for Mr. X!" Allah, blessed be His Names, says "exaltation is mine, not for Mr. X, carry all the slain man's sins and proceed to the Hell fire." In another wording of AnNasa'i: "The accused says, "for strengthening the rule or kingdom of Mr. X."
Today your brothers and sons, the sons of the two Holy Places, have started their Jihad in the cause of Allah, to expel the occupying enemy out of the country of the two Holy places. And there is no doubt you would like to carry out this mission too, in order to reestablish the greatness of this Ummah and to liberate its' occupied sanctities. Nevertheless, it must be obvious to you that, due to the imbalance of power between our armed forces and the enemy forces, a suitable means of fighting must be adopted i.e. using fast moving, light forces that work under complete secrecy. In other word to initiate guerrilla warfare, were the sons of the nation, and not the military forces, take part in it.
And as you know, it is wise, in the present circumstances, for the armed military forces not to be engaged in a conventional fighting with the forces of the crusader enemy (the exceptions are the bold and the forceful operations carried out by the members of the armed forces individually, that is without the movement of the formal forces in its conventional shape and hence the responses will not be directed, strongly, against the army) unless a big advantage is likely to be achieved; and great losses induced on the enemy side (that would shaken and destroy its foundations and infrastructures) that will help to expel the enemy defeated out of the country.
The Mujahideen, your brothers and sons, request that you support them in every possible way by supplying them with the necessary information, materials and arms. Security men are especially asked to cover up for the Mujahideen and to assist them as much as possible against the occupying enemy; and to spread rumors, fear and discouragement among the members of the enemy forces.
We bring to your attention that the regime, in order to create a friction and feud between the Mujahideen and yourselves, might resort to take a deliberate action against personnel of the security, guards and military forces and blame the Mujahideen for these actions. The regime should not be allowed to have such opportunity. The regime is fully responsible for what had been incurred by the country and the nation; however the occupying American enemy is the principle and the main cause of the situation.
Therefore efforts should be concentrated on destroying, fighting and killing the enemy until, by the Grace of Allah, it is completely defeated. The time will come by the Permission of Allah when you'll perform your decisive role so that the word of Allah will be supreme and the word of the infidels (Kaferoon) will be the inferior.
You will hit with iron fist against the aggressors. You'll reestablish the normal course and give the people their rights and carry out your truly Islamic duty. Allah willing, I'll have a separate talk about these issues.
The money you pay to buy American goods will be transformed into bullets and used against our brothers in Palestine and tomorrow against our sons in the land of the two Holy places. By buying these goods we are strengthening their economy while our dispossession and poverty increases.
Muslims Brothers of land of the two Holy Places: It is incredible that our country is the world largest buyer of arms from the USA and the area's biggest commercial partners of the Americans who are assisting their Zionist brothers in occupying Palestine and in evicting and killing the Muslims there, by providing arms, men and financial supports. To deny these occupiers from the enormous revenues of their trading with our country is a very important help for our Jihad against them. To express our anger and hate to them is a very important moral gesture. By doing so we would have taken part in (the process of) cleansing our sanctities from the crusaders and the Zionists and forcing them, by the Permission of Allah, to leave disappointed and defeated.
We expect the woman of the land of the two Holy Places and other countries to carry out their role in boycotting the American goods. If economical boycotting is intertwined with the military operations of the Mujahideen, then defeating the enemy will be even nearer, by the Permission of Allah. However if Muslims don't cooperate and support their Mujahideen brothers then, in effect, they are supplying the army of the enemy with financial help and extending the war and increasing the suffering of the Muslims.
The security and the intelligence services of the entire world cannot force a single citizen to buy the goods of his/her enemy. Economical boycotting of the American goods is a very effective weapon of hitting and weakening the enemy, and it is not under the control of the security forces of the regime. Before closing my talk, I have a very important message to the youths of Islam, men of the brilliant future of the Ummah of Muhammad (Allah's Blessing And Salutations On Him).
Our talk with the youths about their duty in this difficult period in the history of our Ummah, a period in which the youths and no one else came forward to carry out the variable and different duties. While some of the well known individuals had hesitated in their duty of defending Islam and saving themselves and their wealth from the injustice, aggression and terror exercised by the government the youths (may Allah protect them) were forthcoming and raised the banner of Jihad against the American Zionist alliance occupying the sanctities of Islam. Others who have been tricked into loving this materialistic world, and those who have been terrorized by the government choose to give legitimacy to the greatest betrayal, the occupation of the land of the two Holy Places (We bemoan this and can only say: "No power and power acquiring except through Allah"). We are not surprised from the action of our youths. The youths were the companions of Muhammad (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him), and were it not the youths who killed AbaJahl, the Pharaoh of this Ummah? Our youths are the best descendent of the best ancestors.
Abdul Rahman Ibn Awf [NOW DEAD](may Allah be pleased with him) said "I was at Badr where I noticed two youths one to my right and the other to my left. One of them asked me quietly (so not to be heard by the other". "O uncle point out AbaJahl to me." What do you want him for? said Abdul Rahman.[NOW DEAD] The boy answered "I have been informed that he AbaJahl abused the Messenger of Allah (SAW), I swear by Allah, who have my soul in His hand, that if I see AbaJahl I'll not let my shadow departs his shadow till one of us is dead". "I was astonished," said Abdul Rahman; then the other youth said the same thing as the first one. "Subsequently I saw AbaJahl among the people and I said to the boys "do you see?" "This is the man you are asking me about". The two youths hit AbaJahl with their swords till he was dead. Allah is the greatest, Praise be to Him.
Two youths of young age but with great perseverance, enthusiasm, courage and pride for the religion of Allah's, each one of them asking about the most important act of killing that should be induced on the enemy. That is the killing of the pharaoh of this Ummah Aba Jahl, the leader of the unbelievers (Mushrikeen) at the battle of Badr. The role of Abdul Rahman Ibn Awf, may Allah be pleased with him, was to direct the two youths toward AbaJahl. That was the perseverance and the enthusiasm of the youths of that time and that was the perseverance and the enthusiasm of their fathers. It is this role that is now required from the people who have the expertise and knowledge in fighting the enemy. They should guide their brothers and sons in this matter; once that has been done, then our youths will repeat what their forefathers had said before: "I swear by Allah if I see him I'll not let my shadow to departs from his shadow till one of us is dead".
And the story of Abdur Rahman Ibn Awf about Ummayyah Ibn Khalaf shows the extent of Bilal's (may Allah be pleased with him) persistence in killing the head of the Kufr: "the head of Kufr is Ummayyah Ibn Khalaf.... I shall live not if he survives," said Bilal.
A few days ago the news agencies had reported that the Defense Secretary of the Crusading Americans had said, "the explosion at Riyadh and AlKhobar had taught him one lesson - not to withdraw when attacked by coward terrorists". We say to the Defence Secretary that his talk can induce a grieving mother to laughter and shows the fears that had enshrined you all with. Where was this false courage of yours when the explosion in Beirut took place on 1983? You were turned into scattered pits and pieces at that time; 241 mainly marines solders were killed. And where was this courage of yours when two explosions made you to leave Aden in less than twenty-four hours!
But your most disgraceful case was in Somalia; where after vigorous propaganda about the power of the USA and its post cold war leadership of the New World Order you moved tens of thousands of international force, including twenty eight thousands American solders into Somalia. However, when tens of your solders were killed in minor battles and one American Pilot was dragged in the streets of Mogadishu you left the area carrying disappointment, humiliation, defeat and your dead with you. Clinton appeared in front of the whole world threatening and promising revenge, but these threats were merely a preparation for withdrawal. You have been disgraced by Allah and you withdrew; the extent of your impotence and weaknesses became very clear. It was a pleasure for the "heart" of every Muslim and a remedy to the "chests" of believing nations to see you defeated in the three Islamic cities of Beirut, Aden and Mogadishu.
I say to Secretary of Defence: The sons of the land of the two Holy Places had come out to fight against the Russian in Afghanistan, the Serb in Bosnia Herzegovina and today they are fighting in Chechenia and by the Permission of Allah they have been made victorious over your partner, the Russians. By the command of Allah, they are also fighting in Tajakistan.
I say since the sons of the land of the two Holy Places feel and strongly believe that fighting (Jihad) against the Kuffar in every part of the world, is absolutely essential, then they would be even more enthusiastic, more powerful and larger in number upon fighting on their own land the place of their births defending the greatest of their sanctities, the noble Ka'ba (the Qiblah of all Muslims). They know that the Muslims of the world will assist and help them to victory. To liberate their sanctities is the greatest of issues concerning all Muslims; It is the duty of every Muslims in this world. I say to you William (Defence Secretary) that: these youths love death as you love life. They inherit dignity, pride, courage, generosity, truthfulness and sacrifice from father to father. They are most delivering and steadfast at war. They inherit these values from their ancestors (even from the time of the Jaheliyyah, before Islam). These values were approved and completed by the arriving Islam as stated by the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) "I have been send to perfecting the good values". (Saheeh AlJame' AsSagheer). When the pagan King Amroo Ibn Hind tried to humiliate the pagan Amroo Ibn Kulthoom, the latter cut the head of the King with his sword rejecting aggression, humiliation and indignation.
If the king oppresses the people excessively, we reject to submit to humiliation.
By which legitimacy (or command) O Amroo bin Hind you want us to be degraded?
By which legitimacy (or command) O Amroo bin Hind you listen to our foes and disrespect us?
I WOULD SUGEST THE REPORTERS WHO AID AND ABETT THESE MONSTERS DO THEIR HOMEWORK!
THIS WAS BEFORE BUSH??
THIS WAS BEFORE WE FOUGHT BACK , AND BEFORE THE CARTOON ROITS ?
Our toughness has, O Amroo, tired the enemies before you, never giving in! Our youths believe in paradise after death. They believe that taking part in fighting will not bring their day nearer; and staying behind will not postpone their day either. Exalted be to Allah who said: {And a soul will not die but with the permission of Allah, the term is fixed} (Aal Imraan; 3:145). Our youths believe in the saying of the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) "O boy, I teach a few words; guard (guard the cause of, keep the commandments of) Allah, then He guards you, guard (the cause of) Allah, then He will be with you; if you ask (for your need) ask Allah, if you seek assistance, seek Allah's; and know definitely that if the Whole World gathered to (bestow) profit on you they will not profit you except with what was determined for you by Allah, and if they gathered to harm you they will not harm you except with what has been determined for you by Allah. Pen lifted, papers dried, - it is fixed nothing in these truths can be changed" Saheeh AlJame' AsSagheer.
Our youths took note of the meaning of the poetic verse "if death is a predetermined must, then it is a shame to die cowardly" and the other poet saying" who do not die by the sword will die by other reason; many causes are there but one death".
These youths believe in what has been told by Allah and His messenger (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on Him) about the greatness of the reward for the Mujahideen and Martyrs; Allah, the most exalted said "and so far those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish. He will guide them and improve their condition. and cause them to enter the garden paradise, which He has made known to them." (Muhammad;47:46). Allah the Exalted also said "and do not speak of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead; nay they are alive, but you do not perceive". (Bagarah; 2:154) His messenger (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) said "for those who strive in His cause Allah prepared hundred degrees (levels) in paradise, in between two degrees as the in between heaven and earth". Saheeh AlJame' As Sagheer. He (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) also said: "the best of the martyrs are those who do NOT turn their faces away from the battle till they are killed. They are in the high level of Jannah (paradise). Their Lord laughs to them (in pleasure) and when your Lord laughs to a slave of His, He will not hold him to an account". narrated by Ahmad with correct and trustworthy reference. And "a martyr will not feel the pain of death except like how you feel when you are pinched". Saheeh
AlJame' As Sagheer. He also said "a martyr privileges are guaranteed by Allah; forgiveness with the first gush of his blood, he will be shown his seat in paradise, he will be decorated with the jewels of belief (Imaan), married off to the beautiful ones, protected from the test in the grave, assured security in the day of judgment, crowned with the crown of dignity, a ruby of which is better than this whole world (Duniah) and its' entire content, wedded to seventy two of the pure Houries (beautiful ones of Paradise) and his intercession on the behalf of seventy of his relatives will be accepted" narrated by Ahmad and At Tirmithi (with the correct and trustworthy reference).
Those youths know that their rewards in fighting you, the USA, is double than their rewards in fighting some one else not from the people of the book.
SO THIS SOB POMISES JEWELS AND 72 WHAT?
They have no intention except to enter paradise by killing you. An infidel, and enemy of God like you, cannot be in the same hell with his righteous executioner. Our youths chanting and reciting the word of Allah, the most exalted "fight them; Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the heart of a believing people" (At Taubah; 9:14) and the words of the prophet (Allah's Blessing And Salutations On Him) "I swear by Him, who has my soul in His hand, that no man gets killed fighting them today, patiently attacking and not retreating, surely Allah will let him into paradise". And his (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) saying to them: "get up to a paradise as wide as heaven and earth".
The youths also reciting the All Mighty words "so when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks........" (Muhammad; 47:19). Those youths will not ask you (William Perry) for explanations, they will tell you singing there is nothing between us needs to be explained; there is only killing and neck smiting.
And they will say to you what their grand father, Haroon ArRasheed, Ameerul Mu'meneen, replied to your grandfather, Nagfoor, the Byzantine emperor, when he threatened the Muslims: "from Haroon ArRasheed, Ameerul Mu'meneen, to Nagfoor, the dog of the Romans; the answer is what you will see not what you hear". Haroon El Rasheed led the armies of Islam to the battle and handed Nagfoor a devastating defeat.
The youths you called cowards are competing among themselves for fighting and killing you. Reciting what one of them said "The Crusader army became dust when we detonated alKhobar with courageous youth of Islam fearing no danger.." If threatened, "The tyrants will kill you, they reply my death is a victory I did not betray that King, he did betray our Qiblah. And he permitted in the holy country the filthiest sort of humans. I have made an oath by Allah, the Great, to fight who ever rejected the faith."
WHO DO YOU THINK HE WAS TALKEN ABOUT HERE??
For more than a decade, they carried arms on their shoulders in Afghanistan and they have made vows to Allah that as long as they are alive, they will continue to carry arms against you until you are Allah willing expelled, defeated and humiliated, they will carry on as long as they live saying: O William, tomorrow you will know which young man is confronting your misguided brethren.
A youth fighting in smile, returning with the spear colored red. May Allah keep me close to knights, humans in peace, demons in war. Lions in Jungle but their teeth are spears and Indian swords. The horses witness that I push them hard forwarded in the fire of battle.
The dust of the battle bears witnesses for me, so also the fighting itself, the pens and the books. So to abuse the grandsons of the companions, may Allah be pleased with them, by calling them cowards and challenging them by refusing to leave the land of the two Holy Places shows the insanity and the imbalance you are suffering from. Its appropriate `remedy, however, is in the hands of the youths of Islam, as the poet said "I am willing to sacrifice self and wealth for knights who never disappointed me.
" Knights who are never fed up or deterred by death, even if the mill of war turns. In the heat of battle they do not care, and cure the insanity of the enemy by their 'insane' courage.
Terrorizing you, while you are carrying arms on our land, is a legitimate and morally demanded duty. It is a legitimate right well known to all humans and other creatures. Your example and our example is like a snake that entered into a house of a man and got killed by him. The coward is the one who lets you walk, while carrying arms, freely on his land and provides you with peace and security. Those youths are different from your soldiers. Your problem will be how to convince your troops to fight, while our problem will be how to restrain our youths to wait for their turn in fighting and in operations. These youths are commendation and praiseworthy.
DO THESE MONSTERS REALLY WANT A WAR ONE LIKE WW2 WERE WE BOMBED ALL TO DESTROY THE ENEMY?
I SAY THESE MONSTERS RUN LIKE COWARDS LOOK AFTER TORA BORA WHERE OH WHERE IS THE COWARD UBL NO SEE HIDES AND SENDS OTHERS TO KILL LITTLE OLD LADYS IN IRAQ WHAT A COWARD??
They stood up tall to defend the religion; at the time when the government misled the prominent scholars and tricked them into issuing Fatwas that have no basis neither in the book of Allah, nor in the Sunnah of His prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) of opening the land of the two Holy Places for the Christians armies and handing the AlAqsa Mosque to the Zionists.
Twisting the meanings of the holy text will not change this fact at all. They deserve the praise of the poet:
I rejected all the critics, who chose the wrong way
I rejected those who enjoy fireplaces in clubs discussing eternally
I rejected those, who in spite being lost, think they are at the goal
I respect those who carried on not asking or bothering about the difficulties
Never letting up from their goals, in spite all hardships of the road
Whose blood is the oil for the flame guiding in the darkness of confusion
I feel still the pain of (the loss of) AlQuds in my internal organs.
That loss is like a burning fire in my intestines
I did not betray my covenant with God, when even states did betray it.
As their grand father Assim Bin Thabit said rejecting a surrender offer of the pagans "What for an excuse I had to surrender, while I am still able, having arrows and my bow having a tough string? Death is truth and ultimate destiny, and life will end any way. If I do not fight you, then my mother must be insane."
The youths hold you responsible for all of the killings and evictions of the Muslims and the violation of the sanctities, carried out by your Zionist brothers in Lebanon; you openly supplied them with arms and finance. More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanctions) imposed on Iraq and its nation.
The children of Iraq are our children. You, the USA, together with the Saudi regime are responsible for the shedding of the blood of these innocent children. Due to all of that, whatever treaty you have with our country is now null and void.
SEE HERE HE DECLAIRS THAT IRAQ IS HIS AND IS SENDING WHAT DOES HE SAY 600,000?? AND YES THIS IS BEFORE BUSH??
I AM SO SICK OF THESE HUMAN RIGHT PUCKS AND THE REPORTES WHO AID AND ABETT THIS MONSTER WHO KILLS THE IRAQ PEOPLE WHO REJECT THIS MONSTER!!
The treaty of Hudaybiyyah was cancelled by the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) once Quraysh had assisted Bani Bakr against Khusa'ah, the allies of the prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him). The prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) fought Quraysh and concurred Makka. He (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) considered the treaty with Bani Qainuqa' void because one of their Jews publicly hurt one Muslim woman, one single woman, at the market. Let alone then, the killing you caused to hundred of thousands Muslims and occupying their sanctities. It is now clear that those who claim that the blood of the American solders (the enemy occupying the land of the Muslims) should be protected are merely repeating what is imposed on them by the regime; fearing the aggression and interested in saving themselves. It is a duty now on every tribe in the Arab Peninsula to fight, Jihad, in the cause of Allah and to cleanse the land from those occupiers. Allah knows that there blood is permitted (to be spilled) and their wealth is booty; their wealth is booty to those who kill them.
The most Exalted said in the verse of AsSayef, The Sword "so when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters where ever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush". (AtTauba; 9:5). Our youths knew that the humiliation suffered by the Muslims as a result of the occupation of their sanctities couldn't be kicked and removed except by explosions and Jihad. As the poet said, "The walls of oppression and humiliation cannot be demolished except in a rain of bullets. The freeman does not surrender leadership to infidels and sinners. Without shedding blood no degradation and branding can be removed from the forehead".
I remind the youths of the Islamic world, who fought in Afghanistan and Bosnia Herzegovina with their wealth, pens, tongues and themselves that the battle had not finished yet.
WHAT DO YOU THINK HE IS TALKEN ABOUT HERE FIGHTING WITH PEN OH YEA THE REPORTERS WHO AID AND ABETT HIM THE MONSTER WHO WILL DESTROY ALL WHO FOLLOW HIM AND THE LEADERS WHO HAVE JOINED HIM FOR THERE IS A YELLOW CURE ON THIS MONSTER AND ALL WHO FOLLOW HIM THE ILLNESS IS COMING AND SOME HOW I DON’T THINK PP IS THE CURE??
I remind them about the talk between Jibreel (Gabriel) and the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on both of them) after the battle of Ahzab when the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) returned to Medina and before putting his sword aside; when Jibreel (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) descend saying: "are you putting your sword aside? by Allah the angels haven't dropped their arms yet. March with your companions to Bani Quraydah, I am (going) ahead of you to throw fears in their hearts and to shake their fortresses on them". Jibreel marched with the angels (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on them all), followed by the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) marching with the immigrants, Muhajeroon, and supporters, Ansar. "(Narrated by AlBukhary).
These youths know that: if one is not to be killed one will die any way and the most honorable death is to be killed in the way of Allah. They are even more determined after the martyrdom of the four heroes who bombed the Americans in Riyadh. Those youths who raised high the head of the Ummah and humiliated the Americans the occupier by their operation in Riyadh. They remember the poetry of Ja'far, the second commander in the battle of Mu'tah, in which three thousand Muslims faced over a hundred thousand Romans:
How good is the Paradise and its nearness, good with cool drink. But the Romans are promised punishment (in Hell); if I meet them I will fight them.
HERE HE SAYS HE IS AGAINST THE CHURCH OF ROMA AND HAS YOUTH IN PLACE BETTER BRING BACK THE DEATH PLENTY HE IS USING THE EU LAWS AGAINST YOU IN EUROPE WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT ROMA HE MEANS ALL OF EUROPE? AND THOSE WHO FOUGHT IN BOSNIA? WHAT HAS EUROPE DONE?
THIS MONSTER DECLAIRED WAR ON ALL THE WEST WILL THE WEST STAND AND FIGHT OR BE PUSSIES AND PUPPYS TO BE SLAUTERED LIKE THE PUPPYS WE SAW THESE MONSTERS KILLED WITH GAS??
OH BUT THIS WAS BEFORE BUSH!!
And the poetry of Abdullah Bin Rawaha, the third commander in the battle of Mu'tah, after the martyrdom of Ja'far, when he felt some hesitation:
O my soul if you do not get killed, you are going to die, anyway. This is a death pool in front of you! You are getting what you have wished for (martyrdom) before, and you follow the example of the two previous commanders you are rightly guided!
As for our daughters, wives, sisters and mothers they should take prime example from the prophet (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) pious female companions, may Allah be pleased with them; they should adopt the life style (Seerah) of the female companions of courage, sacrifice and generosity in the cause of the supremacy of Allah's religion. They should remember the courage and the personality of Fatima, daughter of Khatab, when she accepted Islam and stood up in front of her brother, Omar Ibn
HERE HE IS TELLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN TO DIE BY HIDING THESE MONSTERS AND THE REPORTERS AID AND ABETT THIS MONSTER??
AlKhatab and challenged him (before he became a Muslim) saying: "O Omar , what will you do if the truth is not in your religion?" And to remember the stand of Asma', daughter of Abu Bakr, on the day of Hijra, when she attended the Messenger and his companion in the cave and split her belt in two pieces for them. And to remember the stand of Naseeba Bent Ka'b striving to defend the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) on the day of Uhud, in which she suffered twelve injuries, one of which was so deep leaving a deep lifelong scar! They should remember the generosity of the early woman of Islam who raised finance for the Muslims army by selling their jewellery.
Our women had set a tremendous example of generosity in the cause of Allah; they motivated and encouraged their sons, brothers and husbands to fight in the cause of Allah in Afghanistan, Bosnia Herzegovina, and Chechnya and in other countries.
YES AID AND ABETT THE MONSTERS WHO KILL THE POOR IRAQIS WHAT A BUNCH OF SHIT THE MULSUMS WHO WANT TO LIVE SHOULD HUNT DOWN THIS DOG WHO KILLS THEIR CHILDREN AND LIKE THE RABBIT DOG HE IS KILL HIM AND ALL HIS FOLLOWERS FOR HE BRINGS A YELLOW CURSE UPON THEM AND THEIRS!!!
We ask Allah to accept from them these deeds, and may He help their fathers, brothers, husbands and sons. May Allah strengthen the belief Imaan of our women in the way of generosity and sacrifice for the supremacy of the word of Allah. Our women weep not, except over men who fight in the cause of Allah; our women instigate their brothers to fight in the cause of Allah.
Our women bemoan only fighters in the cause of Allah, as said "Do not moan on any one except a lion in the woods, courageous in the burning wars. Let me die dignified in wars, honorable death is better than my current life. "
OH YEA WHY DID HE RUN AWAY LIKE A COWARD AND WHY NO SEE NOW IS HE A GOST OR A COWARD? I SAY YELLOW COWDARD!!!
Our women encourage to Jihad saying: Prepare yourself like a struggler - the matter is bigger than words. Are you going to leave us else for the wolves of Kufr eating our wings? The wolves of Kufr are mobilizing all evil persons from everywhere! Where are the freemen defending free women by the arms? Death is better than life in humiliation! Some scandals and shames will never be otherwise eradicated.
My Muslim Brothers of The World
Your brothers in Palestine and in the land of the two Holy Places are calling upon your help and asking you to take part in fighting against the enemy - your enemy and their enemy the Americans and the Israelis. They are asking you to do whatever you can, with one own means and ability, to expel the enemy, humiliated and defeated, out of the sanctities of Islam. Exalted be to Allah said in His book "and if they ask your support, because they are oppressed in their faith, then support them". (Anfaal; 8:72)
O you horses (soldiers) of Allah ride and march on. This is the time of hardship so be tough. And know that your gathering and cooperation in order to liberate the sanctities of Islam is the right step toward unifying the word of the Ummah under the banner of "No God but Allah".
From our place we raise our palms humbly to Allah asking Him to bestow on us His guide in every aspects of this issue.
Our Lord, we ask you to secure the release of the truthful scholars, Ulama, of Islam and pious youths of the Ummah from their imprisonment. O Allah, strengthen them and help their families.
Our Lord, the people of the cross-had come with their horses (soldiers) and occupied the land of the two Holy places and the Zionist Jew, as they fiddle as they wish with the AlAqsa Mosque, the route of the ascendance of the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessing And Salutations On Him). Our Lord, shatter their gathering, divide them among themselves, shaken the earth under their feet and give us control over them; Our Lord, we take refuge in you from their deeds and take you as a shield between us and them
WHAT ABOUT ALL THEM EARTHQUAKES THAT HAVE KILLED ALL THEM MULSUMS WHO FOLLOWED THIS MONSTER AND WHAT ABOUT THEM MULSUMS KILLED BY THE KILLER WAVE WHO FOLLOWED THIS MONSTER AND NOW THE BIRD FLUE KILLING THOSE WHO FOLLOW THIS MONSTER AND NOW THE VOLCANO WHICH WILL BRING A WINTER LIKE NO OTHER WHICH WILL KILL THE CROPS AND BRING ILLNESS UPON THIS MONSTER AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM AND WHAT ABOUT THE LOCUS THAT ATE THE LANDS WHICH THIS MONSTER AND FOLLOWERS TOOK AND NOW SUFFER IN HUNGER YES THIS YELLOW CURSED ONE AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS WILL SUFFER BECAUSE OF HIM!!!
Our Lord, show us a black day in them.
Our Lord, show us the wonderment of your ability in them.
Our Lord, You are the Revealer of the book, Director of the clouds. You defeated the allies (Ahzab); defeat them and make us victorious over them.
Our Lord, You are the one who help us and You are the one who assist us, with Your Power we move and by Your Power we fight. On You we rely and You are our cause. Our Lord, those youths got together to make Your religion victorious and raise Your banner. Our Lord, send them Your help and strengthen their hearts.
Our Lord, make the youths of Islam steadfast and descend patience on them and guide their shots.
Our Lord, unify the Muslims and bestow love among their hearts.
Our Lord, pour down upon us patience, and make our steps firm and assist us against the unbelieving people.
Our Lord, do not lay on us a burden as Thou didst lay on those before us; Our Lord, do not impose upon us that which we have no strength to bear; and pardon us and grant us protection and have mercy on us, Thou art our patron, so help us against the unbelieving people.
Our Lord, guide this Ummah, and make the right conditions (by which) the people of your obedience will be in dignity and the people of disobedience in humiliation, and by which the good deeds are enjoined and the bad deeds are forebode.
Our Lord, bless Muhammad, Your slave and messenger, his family and descendants, and companions and salute him with a (becoming) salutation.
And our last supplication is "All praise is due to Allah".
Usama bin Ladin
"Muslims Burn With Anger At America. For Its Own Good, America Should Leave Saudi Arabia."
WHAT WERE OUR CONGRESS AND PRESIDENT CLINTON DOING WHEN THIS MONSTER DECLAIRED WAR ON THE USA??
THAT IS NOW OLD NEWS TIME TO MOVE ON AND DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THIS WAR THAT HAS BEEN DECLAIRED ON THE USA!!
TIME TO FIGHT FOR SHORT SKIRTS AND BEER AND WINE!!
THIS MONSTER[which I think is changed his sex?? No see sence tora bora yellow coward hides in a hole and brings a yellow curse on all who follow him yes this is support in any way including with gold for the yellow curse will find you and yours better to get the reward of 50,000,000$] HAS HIS ARMYS LOBBING OUR GOVERNMENT THEY HAD BETTER STAND UP FOR AMERICA THE STAKES ARE TO HIGH FFOR THEIR SILLY GAMES!!
WHAT WAS IT SEN. FIENSTIEN SAID 44,000 OTM’S WELL SEN. THAT IS JUST WHAT WAS CAUGHT??
THE ARMYS HAVE BEEN LET IN BY THE LAW MAKERS BECAUSE THEY WERE PLAYING GAMES !
I AM SICK OF THE PRESS AND THE DEMOCRATS WHO SIDE WITH A ENEMY WHO ARE NOTHING BUT MONSTERS WHO WOULD BLOW UP AND OLD FOLKS HOME FOR WOMEN I AM SICK ABOUT A PRESS WHO HELPS THE ENEMY OF MY COUNTRY AND THE DEMOCRATS WHO SIDE WITH MONSTERS WHO DO SUCH THING AS CUT OFF PEOPLES HEADS YES I AM PISSED AT THE ENEMY WITH-IN AS MUCH AS THE MONSTERS!!!
MORE ISLAMIC TERRORIST DEAD TODAY!!!
AND SHAME ON ALL THOSE WHO DON’T WANT THE IRAQI PEOPLE TO LIVE IN FREEDOM FROM FEAR OF HAVE-ING THEIR CHILDREN BLOWN UP BY THESE MONSTERS WE SEE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FIGHTING TO DESTROY THESE MONSTERS AND YET THE LIB’S AND OTHER MULSUMS WHO LIVE IN SAFTY SUPPORT THESE MONSTERS SHAME SHAME SHAME ON YOU MAY THIS COME BACK ON YOU 10 FOLD!!
European said that the Press is screwed up who grew up in the 40s and said the Press what wrong and Europe would not be what it is today if not for the USA who helped rebuild Europe after WW2
SO HOW IS THE PRESS REPORTING THIS?? BY SAYING POLLS SAY THE EUROPEANS ARE MORE AFRAID OF THE USA THAN IRAN WELL WHOS SIDE AGAIN ARE THE PRESS ON [me I say the enemy who would cut their heads off in a NY min] AGAIN THE PRESS SIDES WITH THE ENEMY AND THE POLLS SAY BY 80% THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON’T TRUST THE PRESS!!!
Another one who sides with the enemy??
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/20/131732.shtml?s=ic
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:58 a.m. EDT
Hillary Calls for 'Net Neutrality'
Sen. Hillary Clinton has thrown her support behind "network neutrality” regulations that conservatives say mark the first major attempt by the federal government to regulate the Internet.
YES READ THE WHOLE THING THEN ASK WHY OH BUT IT IS THE ARAB MONEY SHE WANTS??
And our hearts are heavy for their lose BUT we will not give up this fight against these monsters who would do such a thing as we see like the killing of the poor children in Russi and the poor Iraqi people Stand Up and Fight these monsters and all who support them!!!
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM LET NOT THE WORLD BE DECEIVED BY THEM GIVE THE WORLD COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT THESE ONSTERS TOGETHER UNTIL THEY ARE NO MORE GIVE US STRENGTH TO GET MEDEVIL UPON THEM AND FORGIVE OURSELFS AS DID OUR GRANDPARENTS DID IN WW2 AMEN
Arjun:
If the Russians are being troubled by jihaddists, I see it as more than a bit of poetic justice, given the fundamental role the USSR played in developing the PLO from being merely a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot into a "national liberation movement" that only seeks to reclaim the 12% of the original Palestine Mandate from the Jews.
Without Ho Chi Mihn's advice to Arafat to position his mission as a "human rights" issue and all the tactical stuff he learned in Romania, and the support of the so-called "non-aligned nations" at the UN, the PLO would have been about as successful as ETA (Basque separatists in Spain) in gaining support for attacking civilian populations in order to make an Islamic state out of Israel.
Waterdragon,
These are deep waters. I shall have to study a lot to get the hang of the situation. But this much I understand, while there was communist rule in U.S.S.R., I hardly think jihadis were able to function in the manner that they do today.
It is typical of bigotry that people would assume that all Saudies or even just all Muslims are Terrorists and that they would seek to undertake these studies in order to plot Terrorist attacks. One has to wonder at the mentality of such thinking and why it is tolerated on a site which claims that it does not support bigotry.
Posted by: John Howard at June 20, 2006 11:13 PM
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011914.php#comments
I say again:
You sir, are the bigot with a mental problem!
And more to the point sir -- it is thinking like yours that is every bit as despicable and evil as the blood stained hands that have slaughtered in the name of the islamist ideology that you sir, desire to protect through legislation vs. "hate crimes."
It is thinking like yours, sir, that offers comfort to murderers but at the same time offers threats and intimidation to those who resist them; or who would take measures to protect the innocents of such atrocities that you sir, apparently give personal and implied approbation.
One can come to the inescapable conclusion that you sir, are every bit a co-conspirator in the slaughter since you sir, think and act as an agent in their behalf.
Those who lost their families to these islamist murderers will rightly take umbrage with your "thinking," and comments sir; and the like-minded thinking of your despicable ilk.
Killing Diplomats,
I don't think the readers of this column should start gloating because they are Russian, we should all be bothered, America had a similar problem under Jimmy Carter, although thankfully non were killed. If I remember correctly about 20 years ago some Islamic thug in Lebanon kidnapped some Russian Diplomats killing one in the process. The Russians kidnapped the thugs 4 year old son and cut off his ear. The Diplomats were released forthwith. Then the Russians shot his son. The Russians play hard ball, if it is true, you can bet on it that quiet a few more than four Chechen rebels will have met a sticky end in one of the Russian prisons covered in pigs blood and you can also bet that the videos of there deaths will be personally delivered to the perpetrator of the crime with an appropriate message. When you are dealing with thugs you have to act like thugs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3649655.stm
Thursday, 22 April, 2004
N Korea train blast 'kills many'
Up to 3,000 people have been killed or injured in a huge explosion after two fuel trains collided in North Korea, reports say.
The blast happened at Ryongchon station, 50km north of Pyongyang, South Korea's YTN television said.
The incident reportedly happened nine hours after North Korean leader Kim Jong-il passed through the station on his way home from a visit to Beijing.
Mr Kim had been in China to discuss North Korea's nuclear programme.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5098984.stm
Tuesday, 20 June 2006
N Korea defies missile pressure
North Korea has said it is free to carry out a long-range missile test, defying international calls not to do so, Japan's Kyodo news agency says.
"This issue concerns our autonomy. Nobody has a right to slander that right," a North Korean foreign ministry official was quoted as saying by Kyodo.
The official denied the North was bound by earlier agreements not to launch.
http://www.fas.org/news/dprk/2000/dprk-001026a.htm
'The Light And Shade Of Albright's Visit To North Korea'
Most overseas commentators usually scold the U.S. for trying to isolate various states of concern and press for a more active diplomatic dialogue with all parties. Thus, the fact that Secretary Albright's historic visit to North Korea drew a decidedly mixed set of reactions in the press overseas is somewhat surprising
CYNICISM: Several opinionmakers held that President Clinton is looking for a political opportunity in North Korea. Others even saw the impetus for the North Korean opening in the alleged failure of other U.S. foreign policy endeavors, e.g. the Middle East peace process. Meanwhile, Russian and West European columnists wondered whether any diplomatic deal on North Korean missiles would moot the justification for a U.S. NMD. The tenor of their remarks suggested that they would welcome this possibility.
READ THEN REMEMBER SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO GET OVER IT WHAT WAS IT REAGAN SAID TRUST BUT VERIFI??
RUSSIA: "Sensation"
Andrei Ivanov reported in reformist, business-oriented Kommersant (10/25): "The U.S. secretary of state has sensationally ended her visit to North Korea--Madeleine Albright has had Kim Jong Il promise not to launch any more long-range missiles. This shows that he was serious when, talking to Vladimir Putin last July, he offered to shut down the rocket technology program in North Korea in exchange for foreign assistance in space exploration. Moscow and Beijing are pleased--the Americans can no longer refer to the threat of rocket proliferation from the DPRK to justify NMD."
"Don't Muck It Up"
Andrei Ivanov said in reformist, business-oriented Kommersant (10/24): "After the debacle in the Middle East, the Americans need a success somewhere else. They are almost assured of it in the Korean Peninsula where last June's summit between Kim Jong Il and Kim Dae Jung, coming as a surprise to Washington (as well as to Moscow), started reconciliation between the North and the South. The worst thing that may happen to it is for the Americans to bungle that process by being in a rush, as in the Middle East. The Democrats can't wait, with the elections round the corner."
BOY THINGS NEVER CHANGE THE DEMOCRATS AGAIN PLAY COWARD??
"A 'Nordpolitik' Like, In The Past, A 'Ostpolitik?' There Is More Than Just A Parallel"
Pol Mathil commented in left-of-center Le Soir (10/24): "One does not know whether this 'Nordpolitik' will lead to the reunification of the two Koreas, and whether Kim Dae-Jung, who is already known as the 'Asian Mandela,' will once be called the 'Korean Willy Brandt.' But if Madeleine Albright ventured to cross the 38th parallel, it is to look for partial answers to these questions. And this is not the end of the pilgrimages: The European Union, Clinton, and Japan are already lining up. Why is there such a traffic jam to shake hands with a man who, among other things, is responsible for the terrorist attack which claimed the life of 21 people, including several South Korean Ministers, in 1983, and for the blowing up of a South Korean plane with 115 passengers in 1987? Why is there such a crowd at the door of a country which makes the former Soviet Union and Cuba look like perfect democracies? Why did we send aircraft to punish Milosevic and Saddam, and why did we isolate Burma, although all their combined crimes against human rights are in no way comparable to those of the 'Dear Leader' Kim Jong II? The answer is simple: Fear.
"Neither Milosevic, Castro, nor the Burmese Generals can militarily threaten the United States. Perhaps the 'Dear Leader' can. That is the question! His nuclear arsenal and his sales to Iran and Iraq are worrying Western strategists. This is risky. On the one hand, it breaks the isolation of the last purely Stalinist country.... By doing so, the West hopes to facilitate a process of reforms in North Korea, which would mean self destruction for this regime. But on the other hand, all those visits to the communist dictatorship give it a credibility, a dignity, and an authority, in the view of its population, but also in the view of other dictatorships. The latter will understand the message: Blackmail pays off."
YES WHY THE CLINTONS WANT TO SHUT DOWN THE INTER-NET??
CZECH REPUBLIC: "Better Not To Rely On Miracles"
Pavel Masa commented in centrist Lidove noviny (10/24): "A determined Albright met in Pyongyang with a similarly determined representative of another superpower. Chinese Defense Minister Cch Chao-tchien came to celebrate anniversary of joint victorious fight against American imperialists. A leading daily of Chinese army reminded that in the '50s, 'the Chinese people inspired by the spirit of patriotism and internationalism, destroyed the myth of undefeatable American imperialism; and that these people can even today use the same spirit to create miracles.' It would probably be better not to rely on miracles this time."
LOOKS LIKE BUSH WAS NOT WRONG BUT THE MSM WAS?
POLAND: "Risky Game In Pyongyang"
Krzysztof Darewicz wrote in centrist Rzeczpospolita (10/25): "Kim Jong Il is the most ruthless and cruel dictator in the world. Like his father Kim Il Sung, he is known for notoriously breaking promises and for his inclination to blackmail and playing with the 'Chinese,' 'Russian,' 'American, 'South Korean,' 'nuclear' or 'missile' cards. The leader of a country which is plunged in economic crisis and starvation has not been miraculously 'reformed,' but is rather extremely desperate trying to obtain foreign assistance before the winter comes in return for nice promises."
YES WHAT THE SMART PEOPLE THINK NOT THE BUT LICKERS OF BILLY??
"I Don't Trust Kim"
Lukasz Warzecha observed in right-of-center Zycie (10/25): "President Putin boasted several months ago that Kim offered to cancel North Korea's missile program if other countries help him launch satellites. Soon afterwards North Korea's leader said he was just joking. Isn't Mrs. Albright afraid that Kim was mocking her this time too? What Kim is possibly trying to attain is what he always wanted: He intends to bargain for assistance in return for concessions. The question is: Is it worth paying ransom over and over again? And what would happen if the tap [of foreign assistance] was turned off?"
WHY IN 2001 BUSH WANTED A MISSEL DEFENCE BUT THE DEMOCRATS SCREAM BUT OH NO WELL WELL NOW WHO WAS RIGHT AND WILL THIS MISSEL MAKE TO SAN FRAN AND TAKE OUT SILLY VALLEY
WELL WHAT WILL THE MSM BUT LICKERS OF BILLY HAVE TO SAY THEN AFTER ALL IT IS THEM WHO HELPS OUR ENEMIES AND THEIR FRIENDS ALL FOR A FEW DOLLARS SHAME SHAME SHAME ON THEM!!
"Rush To Pyongyang"
Leopold Unger wrote in liberal Gazeta Wyborcza (10/24): "Why such a queue to shake the hand of the man who has on his conscience, to name the most important crimes, the 1983 attack in which 21 South Koreans, including ministers, were killed and the South Korean airline bombing with 115 victims? Why such a crowd at the gates of the country that makes the Soviet gulags look like kindergarten and which makes Fidel's Cuba look like a British democracy? Why were aircraft sent against Milosevic and Saddam, and the Burmese junta radically ostracized, even though their collective violence against human rights is nothing compared to Kim Jong Il's list of [victims of] bloodshed and starvation? The answer is simple: Fear. From the military point of view, Milosevic, the junta in Burma, Castro, and others cannot harm U.S. security. The 'Dear Leader' possibly can. North Korea's nuclear stockpile, its weapons of mass destruction, and their proliferation to Iran, Iraq, and other countries that are hostile toward the West--these are what U.S. strategists are losing sleep over."
OF COURSE THIS ALL WAS BEFORE BUSH??
http://www.armscontrol.org/act/2000_06/nkjun.asp
June 2000
Negotiating an End to North Korea's Missile-Making
Leon V. Sigal
READ THE WHOLE THING??
North Korea has kept its end of the bargain; there has been no untoward activity at its missile test sites since September. The United States has been slow to reciprocate but is now committed to relaxing sanctions soon. Until it does, however, North Korea's high-level representative will not come to Washington, and lower-level nuclear and missile talks are likely to go nowhere fast.
OPPS THEY LIED?
AND REMEMBER THIS WAS BEFORE BUSH SEAMS THE MSM BUTT LICKERS OF BILLY NEVER TOLD THE PEOPLE WHAT WAS GOING ON??
Pyongyang's Missile Game
Most experts assume North Korea is racing headlong to develop long-range missiles, but if Pyongyang had wanted missiles worth deploying or selling, it should have been perfecting the No Dong, Taepo Dong-1, and Taepo Dong-2 with repeated testing. Instead, it has conducted just two medium- or longer-range missile tests in the past decade—one of the No Dong on May 29, 1993, and another of the Taepo Dong-1 on August 31, 1998—both of them failures.
WHAT WHAT N.KOREA SHOT A MISSEL AT THE USA IN 1998 WHERE OH WHERE WAS THE MSM THE BUTT LICKERS OF BILLY??[BLOB]
I THINK I HAVE FRAZED A NEW TERM??
MSM BLOB!!!
WOW I LIKE THAT BUTT LICKERS OF BILLY [BLOB]!!
Moscow, Beijing, and Tokyo Get It
Russia and China are well aware of North Korea's desire for a diplomatic resolution of the missile issue. That is why Russian President Vladimir Putin recently offered to work with the United States to induce North Korea to cease development of longer-range ballistic missiles.3 That is also why Beijing has concluded that U.S. missile defenses are aimed at it, not North Korea. "The U.S. is a huge superpower and you're afraid of little North Korea?" Sha Zukang, China's director-general for arms control and disarmament, said recently.4
YES THEY WERE TALK-EN ABOUT THE MSM AND THE BLOB AND OF COURSE THE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE ALSO BLOBs
BUT THEN CAME BUSH AND BUILT IT ANYWAY AND NOW IT THEY SHOOT THEIR WAD OUR CATCHER WILL SHOOT IT DOWN!!!
But all in all I diegress this is about even in the 1990s we can see that the NKoreans were selling stuff to WHO??
ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND THEIR SUPPORTS
WITH THE HELP OF COVER OF??
THE MSM YES THE BLOBs!!!
SO for all those who think Rednecks don't know
nothing better think again??
Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE TEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AND GIVE THE WORLD STRENGTH TO STOP COVERING FOR BILL clinton AND THOSE WHO WOULD DESTROY THEIR OWN AMEN
PS
Better read some of ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] some of his writtings which make clear to use the Press Human Rights Groups and try to Divide to Conqure??
SO WHO ARE THE STUPID ONE AGAIN OH YEA THOSE WHO AID AND ABETT THE ENEMYS YES THE MSM AND THE BLOBs!!!
Arjun,
Putin is playing dangerous games (not that other nations haven't, too).
Rapprochement with Russia would be good, but I don't know how realistic the hope is. Apart from anything else, it seems Putin needs the money from deals with people like the Iranians.
Have a look at this article:
Putin, Iran and the Caucasus
Maybe this will jolt Putin and Co. out of bed with Iran and other Islamic non-friends it has unwisely aligned itself with.
Arjun:
If Russia was such a brilliant chess player it would have 'checkmated' Islam by now.
As you can see, this is a long way from happening. People in Russia are being killed by Muslims on a regular basis. And Russia is nowhere near finding its way out of this mess (which it got itself into by playing such a stupid game in the first place).
There was no valid reason for Russia to choose Islam to play its geopolitical games with. Putin would have been advised to focus on cleaning up Russia's endemic corruption and make itself a more desirable trade partner with the western democracies than take the course he did. Now, thanks to Putin, Russia is still corrupt and more gravely endangered by Islam than ever. And the world is more vulnerable to Islamic terror than ever before too. The Iranian mullahs are ranting all the way to bank thanks in part to Russia!
Russia's game with Islam has clearly backfired yet Russia's government is unable to admit this to the itself, despite the fact it is plain for all the world to see.
We'll all live a lot longer if Russia gives up playing chess on the world stage!!!!!!!!
ps-As for Chechnya, it could be karma for its history of ruthless and brutal pogroms against its Jewish population and for militarizing Germany in the early twentieth century.
Waterdragon,
These are deep waters. I shall have to study a lot to get the hang of the situation. But this much I understand, while there was communist rule in U.S.S.R., I hardly think jihadis were able to function in the manner that they do today.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 21, 2006 12:33 PM
My point, Arjun, is that the Soviets were happy to deploy jihaddists when it suited their purposes, making common cause with those they thought could be deployed against their superpower rival. If there wasn't much internal jihad activity back in the glory days, it's because the Chechens, etc., didn't have an international network supporting their objectives. And they continue to play footsie with Islmamist regimes like the ones in Tehran and Khartoum.
People love to denegrate the US for having giving succour to the Taliban in order to liberate the Afghans from the horrific Communist rulers the Soviets helped to install, but both sides have proven useful idiots. Where the US differs, is that it really did intervene with good intentions. The Soviets, being the totalitarians they are, only sought dominance in Afganistan for whatever strategic value they could get out of it, even if it was only to get in their before their Chinese Communist rivals.
I guess we can expect the same reaction from Russia that we saw after the murder of little children in Beslan...nothing.
Arjun,
BTW, if you're still reading this thread, did you see this story?
Muslims Beat, Cut Hair Off Teenage Girl, For Dating A Hindu
Beside the murders that are the topic of the thread I suppose it is a small matter, but this mob mentality, and this assumed right to interfere in other people's lives, is just so appalling.
Holger Dansker
You are absolutely correct. I apologize for reposting what I wrote yesterday but it shows the difference between success and failure when dealing with Muslim terrorists.
On September 30, 1985, four Soviet diplomats were kidnapped by the Islamic Liberation Organization in Beirut, one, Arkady Katkov, was killed by his captors while trying to escape. The other three, commercial attache Valery Mirkov, press attache Oleg Spirin, and embassy doctor Nikolai Seversky, were released unharmed a month later after a relative of the terrorist leader's was kidnapped and killed by the Soviet KGB.
The terrorist leader's relative was actually his four-year-old son. A Spetsnaz team took the boy from his home. They then delivered the boy’s cut off ear to his mother with a video of the cutting. On the video was a message that if the remaining three Soviets were not released unharmed, the next video would be of the boy’s castration. The Soviets promised that if the diplomats were released, the boy would not be castrated.
The remaining diplomats were released. The Soviets then simply shot the boy in the back of the head in retaliation for the murder of Katkov. However, the KGB did keep its promise and the dead boy was not castrated. After that, no Soviet diplomat in Lebanon was ever threatened again.
Again my apologies for reposting this but at least the Commies understod the totalitarian mindset that inspires the Muslims. The old Soviet Union, evil empire that it was, was never seen as weak. These Muslims only understand the language of violence and terror, so we will have to "speak to them" in a way they can understand.
Posted by: Provoslavni at June 21, 2006 05:11 PM
This is a good story!
But it was in 1985 when the commies had not signed a deal with the Europeans and abolished the Death plenty so they could do what I'm not sure But as Carlyn2 says What we saw from Beslain does not show strenght?
The lone guy who shot and killed the children in the back. Only gave this guy a life sentance?
SO Russia is some what a dimmi to the Europ-eans!
Where are the human rights groups about the death of these Russians??
I CAN'T HEAR THEM CAN YOU?
Maybe it is time for the Russians once again to join with the USA and fight these monsters like in WW2 remember we won that war together had we not stood together we both would have been lost!!!
TIME TO STOP GIVING THE ENEMIES THE UPPER HAND by letting them divide to conqure?
HEAR that the US state departpartment time to get along.
REMEMBER THE EUROPEANS HAD TO BE SAVED BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT STAND UP FOR THEM SELFS?
And the islamic terrorist know this!
BUT the Europeans need to know we have learned?
WND found in Iraq 500 bombs of cem weapons news breaking??
sympathy?
Keep in mind that word sympathy is in the dictionary between the words SH_T and SYPHILIS!!!
Part of the American
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER AMEN
if russia didnt do anything when they attacked that school,they wont now.
Waterdragon 52:
The US' intervention in the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan can be justified on the grounds that the Soviets were violating the Afghanis' sovereign rights. In addition, permitting Soviet expansionism was not at that time in the interests of the free world. America had a right to do what it (allegedly) did.
However, if Americans had sufficient information about the true (and malign) nature of the Talibans they would likely have revised their strategy. The enemy of your enemy can STILL BE YOUR ENEMY. Something the Americans didn't sufficiently appreciate until they were attacked on 9-11.
The Soviets have never cared about human life. It is cheap and in great supply so why should they (sarcasm off/)? During WWII Germans offered to exchange Stalin's son for a number of German prisoner's of war. Stalin's reply was: "We do not exchange officers for civilians". That sums it all up. Disregard for human life. No wonder Putin feel such affinity to Ahmadinejad.
Sorry! Correction - it was an offer of an exchanege of Stalin's son for a German general:
"Stalin's Son Died in a Nazi Camp
Josef Stalin's oldest son, Yakov Dzhugashvili (Stalin's original last name was Dzhugashvili), was captured by the Nazis in 1941. The Nazis offered Stalin a trade: the release of a German general for the return of Yakov, his son. Unfortunately for Yakov and for millions of other captured Russians, Stalin believed all captured soldiers were betrayers - possible spies. Stalin refused the trade. Yakov died in 1943; he was shot while trying to escape from the Nazi concentration camp of Sachsenhausen. For over half a century, Yakov's family had not known his fate. Last week, the U.S. handed over information about his death to Galina Dzhugashvili, Yakov's daughter."
http://history1900s.about.com/b/a/026911.htm
What actions did Russia take after the gross slaughter of how many innocent children???
Russia did nothing..........
Russia will do nothing about the death of its diplomats.........
Unitl Russia stands up and uses force to stop and purge the terrorism of islam, the terror of islam will continue to murder innocent Russians.
Has Russia accepted money for the lives of the slaughtered innocent Russian children???
RUSSIA DID NOTHING AFTER THE SCHOOL ATTACK???
Are you so sure folks? No media in Chechnya to know what the heck is going on. I suspect they have done more then you think. Also remember they have ask the U.S. to turn over what they say are terrorist from Chechnya who are in the U.S. right now and we have refused becuase the state dept. claims they could be harmed by the Russians. So no wonder they don't help us and no wonder we don't help them (i.e. Iran). We are both to blame and lets not forget we bombed serbia (fellow slavs) becuase we wanted to save the muslims. Lets not forget the UN resolutions attacking russia for its killing of muslims nutz jobs in Chechnya that we keep backing for some stupid reason. Let not forget Afganistan during the cold war....memories die hard.
To the posters above:
Having seen so many people summarily executed by the Bolsheviks, Russia understandably abolished the death penalty. However, with a skyrocketing crime rate and Muslim terrorism, most Russians want to see it brought back.
Sadly, you are all correct about Russia having lost its nerve. No human alive is a more virulent anti-communist than I am, but at least the Reds would stand up to these Islamic thugs. Perhaps because their ideologies were so similar.
Unfortunately, after 70 years of Marxism followed by two decades of economic rape by the oligarchs, Russia is a basket case. We saw that clearly when Yeltsin refused to come to the aid of the Kosovo Serbs against Clinton and NATO's aggression. However, I do not believe this is a permanent situation. The Orthodox Russian culture survived the Mongol Hordes, it survived communism, and it will survive the current economic, moral, and social collapse.
After Putin is gone, Russians will turn their backs on the decadent Westernizers currently in charge and return to its Slavic roots as a Christian Eurasian power. Then they may actually make Stalin look moderate in dealing with these Chechen animals. In the past Russia has produced great scourges of Muslims like Generals Suvorov Vorontsov. In the future, they will again.
Another problem Russia has is that the US and the West are undependable as allies. For example, in December 1999 the Russian general staff began dropping leaflets in Grozny announcing that everyone who did not leave would be considered bandits and terrorists and would subsequently be destroyed by aviation and artillery. In the face of international outrage by the United States, the European Union and human rights groups, Russia was forced to withdraw the ultimatum.
The commander for the North Caucasus, Colonel-General Viktor Kazantsev, said mistakes by these "soft-hearted" Russian officials had allowed rebels to gain the offensive; he said from now on only boys under 10, old men over 60 and girls and women would be considered as refugees. Needless to say, US and European diplomats strongly condemned this effective military leader. If Russia were to regain its honour, heroes like Kazantsev will be given full support to defeat the Jihad.
The penultimate post above should read "like Generals Suvorov and Vorontsov."
Waterdragon, Yojimbo, Pythagoras,
Did a lot of thinking Re : your posts describing the situation. Arrived at the conclusion that the world never saw that we were in the middle of World War I. ALL the countries, and I mean all of them, thought in terms of narrow gains, with a timeframe of only 10 years or so in mind. And now that all are in the soup, the least we all can do is acknowledge that the others are in the soup as well. This the policy makers never do. And I think that these policy makers are to blame for half the evil. I do know that the majority of Russians trust the U.S. administration more than they trust their own government. I think it was Serbian Girl who had also remarked about this. But the policy makers constantly let them down in Chenchenya and Serbia. And these same policy makers are propping pakistan for no reason that any sane, informed person can fathom. And they also fund palis. It is only in the very recent that they have gingerly started distancing from the saudis. Point is, such doings make people like Putin make short term blunders. I do not for a moment believe that Putin would have given the iranians the reactors. He was just out looking for a fast buck.
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Provoslavni
Interesting Post there. But I guess the scenario extends for the whole world, including Russia. The complexity of world politics is also deeply entwined in economics and national prestige.
Disagreements on WTO, inter-country trade issues, short sighted policy making has been the hallmark of international diplomacy and trade.
If you take it from the base level, Companies are always under pressure from shareholders to perform financially, encouraging them to disregard long term political and sociological viewpoints. This causes many companies to seek opportunities in volatile environments, and through dubious means, often with wilful disregard of the morailty of the issue, because they believe that the outcome will be manageable.
Countries are under similar pressures. In efforts to forward economic progress and national prestige, governments concede vital concessions to strategic common sense ,and compromise on dealing ethics, in an effort to tactically manage tacky situations. I believe that Russia may very well be aware of the long term strategic implications of rogue islamic states with ready to use nuclear arsenals, as well as the US does. But at the same time it harbors the pride of a former world power, and wants to be seen as one. I believe that Russia sincerely believes that it can play some "risky chess moves" on an international diplomatic chess board and emerge a winner.
That reasoning may be subject to scrutiny. But by and large I don't think Vlad is a Islamophile. I believe he has made some anti islamic statements in the past. And by the way he is handling Chechnya, doesn't seem that "conern for muslims" is anywhere on the top of the agenda.
It is probably ironic that both the West and Russia and China for that matter face long term threats from Islamic hegemonic ambitions, and therefore have juxtaposing goals, but at the same time have disparate views about the same.
I think it is high time to let go of the Cold War Syndrome. If not we will suffer, because Islam will continue to manipulate these differences and insinuate the problem through resident muslim populations in infidel countries to further their goal of ultimate domination. The ancient adage stands well and true
UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
for a free world
the hindu
Provoslavni
Interesting Post there. But I guess the scenario extends for the whole world, including Russia. The complexity of world politics is also deeply entwined in economics and national prestige.
Disagreements on WTO, inter-country trade issues, short sighted policy making has been the hallmark of international diplomacy and trade.
If you take it from the base level, Companies are always under pressure from shareholders to perform financially, encouraging them to disregard long term political and sociological viewpoints. This causes many companies to seek opportunities in volatile environments, and through dubious means, often with wilful disregard of the morailty of the issue, because they believe that the outcome will be manageable.
Countries are under similar pressures. In efforts to forward economic progress and national prestige, governments concede vital concessions to strategic common sense ,and compromise on dealing ethics, in an effort to tactically manage tacky situations. I believe that Russia may very well be aware of the long term strategic implications of rogue islamic states with ready to use nuclear arsenals, as well as the US does. But at the same time it harbors the pride of a former world power, and wants to be seen as one. I believe that Russia sincerely believes that it can play some "risky chess moves" on an international diplomatic chess board and emerge a winner.
That reasoning may be subject to scrutiny. But by and large I don't think Vlad is a Islamophile. I believe he has made some anti islamic statements in the past. And by the way he is handling Chechnya, doesn't seem that "conern for muslims" is anywhere on the top of the agenda.
It is probably ironic that both the West and Russia and China for that matter face long term threats from Islamic hegemonic ambitions, and therefore have juxtaposing goals, but at the same time have disparate views about the same.
I think it is high time to let go of the Cold War Syndrome. If not we will suffer, because Islam will continue to manipulate these differences and insinuate the problem through resident muslim populations in infidel countries to further their goal of ultimate domination. The ancient adage stands well and true
UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
for a free world
the hindu
Provoslavni
Interesting Post there. But I guess the scenario extends for the whole world, including Russia. The complexity of world politics is also deeply entwined in economics and national prestige.
Disagreements on WTO, inter-country trade issues, short sighted policy making has been the hallmark of international diplomacy and trade.
If you take it from the base level, Companies are always under pressure from shareholders to perform financially, encouraging them to disregard long term political and sociological viewpoints. This causes many companies to seek opportunities in volatile environments, and through dubious means, often with wilful disregard of the morailty of the issue, because they believe that the outcome will be manageable.
Countries are under similar pressures. In efforts to forward economic progress and national prestige, governments concede vital concessions to strategic common sense ,and compromise on dealing ethics, in an effort to tactically manage tacky situations. I believe that Russia may very well be aware of the long term strategic implications of rogue islamic states with ready to use nuclear arsenals, as well as the US does. But at the same time it harbors the pride of a former world power, and wants to be seen as one. I believe that Russia sincerely believes that it can play some "risky chess moves" on an international diplomatic chess board and emerge a winner.
That reasoning may be subject to scrutiny. But by and large I don't think Vlad is a Islamophile. I believe he has made some anti islamic statements in the past. And by the way he is handling Chechnya, doesn't seem that "conern for muslims" is anywhere on the top of the agenda.
It is probably ironic that both the West and Russia and China for that matter face long term threats from Islamic hegemonic ambitions, and therefore have juxtaposing goals, but at the same time have disparate views about the same.
I think it is high time to let go of the Cold War Syndrome. If not we will suffer, because Islam will continue to manipulate these differences and insinuate the problem through resident muslim populations in infidel countries to further their goal of ultimate domination. The ancient adage stands well and true
UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
for a free world
the hindu
Provoslavni
Interesting Post there. But I guess the scenario extends for the whole world, including Russia. The complexity of world politics is also deeply entwined in economics and national prestige.
Disagreements on WTO, inter-country trade issues, short sighted policy making has been the hallmark of international diplomacy and trade.
If you take it from the base level, Companies are always under pressure from shareholders to perform financially, encouraging them to disregard long term political and sociological viewpoints. This causes many companies to seek opportunities in volatile environments, and through dubious means, often with wilful disregard of the morailty of the issue, because they believe that the outcome will be manageable.
Countries are under similar pressures. In efforts to forward economic progress and national prestige, governments concede vital concessions to strategic common sense ,and compromise on dealing ethics, in an effort to tactically manage tacky situations. I believe that Russia may very well be aware of the long term strategic implications of rogue islamic states with ready to use nuclear arsenals, as well as the US does. But at the same time it harbors the pride of a former world power, and wants to be seen as one. I believe that Russia sincerely believes that it can play some "risky chess moves" on an international diplomatic chess board and emerge a winner.
That reasoning may be subject to scrutiny. But by and large I don't think Vlad is a Islamophile. I believe he has made some anti islamic statements in the past. And by the way he is handling Chechnya, doesn't seem that "conern for muslims" is anywhere on the top of the agenda.
It is probably ironic that both the West and Russia and China for that matter face long term threats from Islamic hegemonic ambitions, and therefore have juxtaposing goals, but at the same time have disparate views about the same.
I think it is high time to let go of the Cold War Syndrome. If not we will suffer, because Islam will continue to manipulate these differences and insinuate the problem through resident muslim populations in infidel countries to further their goal of ultimate domination. The ancient adage stands well and true
UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL
for a free world
the hindu
sorry for the multiple posts . no idea what happened
Pythagorus:
I am not among those who condemn the US for naively supporting the Taliban in a bid to remove the Soviet-backed Afghan dictatorship. I remember well the hideous tactics deployed against the Afghan population by Soviet troops too. I was only saying that the very same usual suspects who are very quick to denounce the US for its generally well-intentioned interventions and non-interventions, invariably give a free pass to the USSR, China, Islamists, etc.. They seem to do it in the name of "anti-imperialism" but it's got to be about the most misguided form of "anti-imperialism" I've ever come across as it invariable finds common cause with very pro-totalitarian and regressive movements.
If this is of interest to you, I highly recommend you read a review posted on Democratiya by Marko Atilla Hoare of the revised edition of a book co-written by Ian Buruma and Avishai Margolit entitled: Occidentalism: The West in the Eyes of its Enemies. See it at http://www.democratiya.com/review.asp?reviews_id=26
Polish Infideless:
Thanks for summing up Stalin's character so succinctly. I'll never forget the words of a hopelessly left Canadian woman of Ukranian extraction making excuses for the man who so cruelly created a managed crisis in order to starve millions of her countrymen into submission... ...that the USSR needed a strong man.
And the same pattern repeats even now. Iran's economy lies in ruins despite the astronomical oil revenues while Ahmadinejad & Co. pursue nuclear technology to hasten their version of Armageddon. Ditto for North Korea... ...money enough to arm themselves to the teeth and help other rogue nations to arm themselves to the teeth while the people starve. And to do this, naturally, both of these bastians of "anti-US imperialism" operate as the most oppressive police states. And their useful idiots here in downtown Toronto, typically members of the Socialist Workers Party (none of whom actually work) paper ours streets with "Hands Off of Iran", "No War" posters.
Just trying to response or add to those who mentioned Putin, Stalin, Ukrainian Canadians, and so forth.
Why am I doing so? Because I feel it's my responsibility as a former so-called "Soviet" citizen.
1. Putin. Nobody should forget that he was, is, and will be a KGB active "worker". When somebody says he is mad or stupid it's wrong. Neither. But his only goal and standpoint is to oppose the USA in everything. Everything besides Democracy.
Democracy is organically strange to him. Despite the murder of Russian hostages, he will support (either hidden or openly) Iraqi terrorists, Iran with that terrorist jerk Ahmadinejad, and do everything he can "to put spokes in a wheel" of the USA. His "friendship" with Bush is nothing more than a mask: he intentionally is doing everything possible to heat up the hatred to the USA among common Russians. Successfully.
2. Stalin's "ash is still knocking in the hearts" of many former "Soviet" people, including Ukrainians emigrated to Canada. Why? Why do we have Nazi groups all over Europe and the USA? The same. Remember recent Cholos demonstrations in LA? With slogans "Marxism", portraits of the famous Marxist-terrorist Che Guevara, flags with Sickle-and-Hammer? I don't remember anybody say a word about these threatening things when disputing about illegals. This is a real threat we are facing - millions of Allendes and Chavezes to suck out our taxpayers’ money and then destroy our society with sickles and hammers while singing hosanna to Che Guevara and Holy Marx-Trotsky-Chavez Trinity. Anybody cares about it in our Political Correctness infected by Marxism and sympathy for Communism and former Soviet Union? All those Sarandons and Hillaries are no less threat to the USA than Putin because they were grown on admiration for Marxism - the bloodiest ideology ever but so noisy about "equality". That's why they all hate the USA and that's why they are and will rather support jihadists than our military. The enemy of their enemy is their friend. The USA is their enemy.
3. To summarize: murder of Russian hostages will change nothing in Russia's behavior. Unfortunately, in our - either.