1938 Alert from Reuters, with thanks to Sr. Soph:
NIZMIT HILL, Israel (Reuters) - Israel massed tanks and troops near Gaza on Tuesday for a threatened offensive against Palestinian militants and said it would target Hamas leaders if an abducted soldier was not freed.In northern Gaza, Palestinians blocked roads with dirt and barbed wire. Militants wielding automatic rifles and anti-tank rockets rigged explosive devices along a road as tensions hit their highest since Israel quit Gaza nearly a year ago.
The United States urged Israel to give diplomatic negotiations a chance to win the release of Corporal Gilad Shalit, who was seized on Sunday by militants who also killed two soldiers in a raid on an army border post.
"Diplomatic negotiations": i.e., concessions.
Two and a half days gone by. Not a shot fired nor a bomb dropped.
Israeli impotence.
BTW, in case anyone doesn't know it yet, there's most likely been another kidnapping.
It's high noon in Tombstone. These people never are satisfied. Israel vacated the area voluntarily, they released prisoners, even sent money and other goods to the Palistinians. And just look what is returned. Rockets , bombs, threats, kidnappings, etc.
The gang is in town and the marshal is making sure he has his deputies and himself armed to the teeth.
Ain't seen anything like this since the OK corral (and it only lasted about seven minutes).
The result will be the same, The sheriff and his deputies were bloodied somewhat, but the gang was wiped out. The result here will be the same.
Time for khaled mashaal to cash in his fully paid one-way ticket to hell? yassin and the 'prophet' await his company.
The IDF should bust in there regardless of what happens to the hostage. They can't win by simply responding to terrorist attacks. Islam has all the time in the world, but Israel will eventually get tired and give away even more land, or destroy itself with Palestinian immigration or something to that effect. They should just declare war, wipe out all armed resistance and subject Palestine under a military occupation. Or something. Anything.
Of course, going to war againts Palestine wouldn't exactly improve Israel's diplomatic relations with the rest of the world.
They can gather but the cowardly zionist's will fail, their military might will count for nothing. the tyranical oppressive zionist will fail and palestine will be free of their anger and oppression. Why have Israel not yet gone all out? well because the zionist are cowards, eg when they have the better weapons than they will bully and kill people, but they know that invading gaza with result in an all out war, AHHH YES REST ASSURED IF THEY DO, SAUDI WILL GET INVOLVED AND THAT WILL BE THE SIGNAL FOR OTHER MUSLIM NATIONS TO ONCE AGAIN STAND UNITED AGAINST EVIL.and israel knows this.
once again the table of time is turning, as today becomes the past and the past becomes tomorrow, i feel that the next 1-10 years will be of great significance to historians of future centuries
Bwahaha Salahudin. You keep giving us reminders of your crass stupidity - and this one takes some beating. Your Islamic brothers have taken repeated batterings at the hands of the Israelis in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973. A country like Israel with its seven million population is far wealthier than its far more heavily populated neighbours. Muslims are only good at the seventh-century pracrtices of murdering, terrorism, violence, savagery, honour killings, severing heads and religious intolerance. They're good at little else. They're the most rigidly stupid and retarded people on the planet - and this is something that even your devil-God Allah cannot hide from us.
Salahudin, I write to you from the eternal capital of G-d's chosen people, Jerusalem, ISRAEL.
Eat that, Islamic scum.
Israel is an oppressive zionist?????
Israel minds its own business until some pali goes wacko and shoots at them.
Even then, they don't go all out and take care of business. I don't know what's kept them from wiping out the palestinians. They have every reason to.
But then, the Israeli's ARE civilized. It's their neighbors that aren't.
Saudi get involved?
Yeah, there's a "force to be reckoned with"
(I am being sarcastic)
I see salahuakbar is at it again. It would appear that it is more than one person.
The Israelis should roll their army in and level every damn house they can find.
The Muslims will never understand anything but force, and we aleady know that they will never cease trying to murder Jews.
Everything that the cassandras warned would happen if the Israelis retreated from Gaza, a place to which they have a legal and historic and moral claim far superior to that of the Arabs, either the "Palestinians" or another other group (and let's not speak here of when most of the Sinai became Egyptian, way back in the mists of time, in far-off antediluvian 1922), has happened. Yet Olmert and the Israeli Left continues to believe that they should do the same with the "West Bank." No lessons learned. No desire to recognize that the conflict is endless, that it is based on the tenets and attitudes of Islam, that only firmly holding all of the land now held, land to which Israel has by far the strongest claim but that claim is seldom set out coherently by Israeli spokesmen or political leaders, as if they do not quite understand it themselves (Hint #1: start with the terms of the Mandate for Palestine. Hint #2: note the plans for an Arab state, a Jewish state, a Kurdish state, an Armenian state, and find out how those four promises made to four different peoples fared. Hint #3: ask yourself why Italy was allowed to approriate the Sudtirol, 97% ethnic German, after World War I, and to rename it the Alto Adige, and to keep it? Hint #4: what happened after World War II to the borders and German minorities in Czechoslovakia? In Poland? That's a start.).
The fact that there is no "solution" to the Lesser Jihad against Israel does not mean that Israel, if it ceases to pre-emptively surrender in salami bits, will lose. Who would have thought that the Soviet Union would ever break up, that Communism would be seen as the failure it is? Who could have predicted that in 1946? In 1956? In 1966? In 1976? Islam has declared itself; as more and more Infidels study the matter, they will realize that the Lesser Jihad against Israel is not the cause of, but rather merely one component of, the Greater Jihad that is being conducted, largely through non-military means, throughout the world.
Perhaps instead of giving land away to the terrorist government of Palestine the Palestinians should now be driven into the sea, to coin a well known phrase!
Boot on the other foot, gloves off, just take over Palestine.
There can't be terrorists coming from the West Bank and Gaza if the Palestinians are in the diaspora that they wanted for the Jewish people.
Perhaps the Palestinian govt should have thought about that before taking hostages.
Spirit Of 1683 wrote: "Your Islamic brothers have taken repeated batterings at the hands of the Israelis in 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973"
Man! That almost once every 10 years.
It's amazing looking at that that US polices have managed to keep them at bay for 20+ years.
Granted, the US did temporarily break up the pan-Arab alliance by giving Egypt a $2 bil. a year Jizya. But how long will that last with Mubarek being like 78 years old? His days are numbered and probably Egypt will go Muslim Brotherhood.
But seriously, every 10 years, come on! ROFL What do they call the medical condition when someone not all there injures himself over and over and never knows when to stop?
GreatShaitan:
It's a condition known as Islamism. There is no cure available.
World war is inevitable at this point. You all must realize this by now?
"once again the table of time is turning, as today becomes the past and the past becomes tomorrow, i feel that the next 1-10 years will be of great significance to historians of future centuries"
Salahudin - I do agree, but I think the outcome will be different from allah's mandate. Be careful - you will get what you wish for. We're trying to avoid it, but I agree with you. History rolls on and somewhere in the next 1 - 10 all the trends will converge and wheels will turn. People are not willing to change until they are forced to change. Sad but true.
By the way, I wear a gold cross made in Jerusalem by a Jewish man... it's a 'crusader' cross - the kind from the temporary Christian kingdom from that place.
My point is that this time around the fighting won't stop at Jerusalem. It will roll on to Mecca and Medina and will put an end to all of this - as the Crusader occupiers should have done in the first place. You're going to bring the juggernaut down on your head Salahudin. It's not too late now... please think about it.
"Perhaps instead of giving land away to the terrorist government of Palestine the Palestinians should now be driven into the sea, to coin a well known phrase!
Ice Dragon, I like the way you think
Hugh, I love it when you take your pithy pills.
Salahudin - here's a definition for you if English is not your primary language:
jug·ger·naut ( P ) Pronunciation Key (jgr-nôt)
n.
a. Something, such as a belief or institution, that elicits blind and destructive devotion or to which people are ruthlessly sacrificed.
b. An overwhelming, advancing force that crushes or seems to crush everything in its path: “It doesn't assume that people need necessarily remain passive when confronted by what appears to be the juggernaut of history” (Christopher Lehmann-Haupt).
c. Juggernaut Used as a title for the Hindu deity Krishna.
Hey Plague, Can you post a link to one of those gold crosses? Where can I see/purchase one?
Worm regards,
Haid
If S.A. wants to keep its squatters status on the oil fields they will leave it be. They are sitting on what other countries want. The status-quo is currently working for them. If the status-quo in that part of the world is disturbed...
Haid Dasalami - it's here: http://www.porat-jewelry.com/ the Jerusalem Crosses at the bottom of the page.
Mr. Porat is a good guy to do business with. I emailed him a couple of times about something or the other ( I forget exactly why at the moment) and he treated me right.
Here are a couple of other places, but I think Porat supplies one of these:
http://holyland2000store.com/jercrospagno.html
http://www.holylandmall.net/18kgold.html
and here's a little history on the Cross of Jerusalem:
http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefsjerusalemcross.htm
1948, 1967, 1974. Not exactly great Islamic victory years. hopefully 2006 is shaping up as another great victory year for Islam.
The muslims came sneaking in like a pack of cowardly wild dogs. I hope Israel destroys Gaza and rids the earth of this muslim vermin.
My cousine serves in the Israeli army. She finishes training and in couple of weeks begins high-grade service. She (as well as all other soldiers of this stream) was defined on the most dangerous posts. What can I say now? I shall say what I say always - there's enough ground for all people in the world. And to kill each other because of this reason (to gain-return territories), or because of something else - cannot be the justified human act.
(Sorry for my bad english)
Iran wants war...The world just needs a match.
"Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand:" (Joel 2:1 NKJV)
, AHHH YES REST ASSURED IF THEY DO, SAUDI WILL GET INVOLVED AND THAT WILL BE THE SIGNAL FOR OTHER MUSLIM NATIONS TO ONCE AGAIN STAND UNITED AGAINST EVIL.
Oh for Pete's sake.
salahudin...assalum likkum
The only thing the saudis do for themselves is eat and sexual intercourse. Everything else they hire someone to do for them and most of the hirelings are infidels. You are a poster boy for muslim ignorance
Vengeance is mine, and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip; for the day of their calamity is at hand, and their doom comes swiftly. 36 For the LORD will vindicate his people and have compassion on his servants, when he sees that their power is gone, and there is none remaining, bond or free. 37 Then he will say, 'Where are their gods, the rock in which they took refuge, 38 who ate the fat of their sacrifices, and drank the wine of their drink offering? Let them rise up and help you, let them be your protection! 39 "'See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand. 40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and swear, As I live for ever, 41 if I whet my glittering sword, and my hand takes hold on judgment, I will take vengeance on my adversaries, and will requite those who hate me. 42 I will make my arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh--with the blood of the slain and the captives, from the long-haired heads of the enemy.
Deuteronomy 32
Good one US_infidel -
That would make a great bumber sticker! "No Islam -- Know Peace"
Or....
Know Islam -- No Peace
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Oh Sal -- YOU are the coward!!!
Why aren't you blowing yourself up for the cause of Islam; instead you wear us out with your annoying posts?
Israel's army is an awesome and unstoppable force, and they will prevail in the end!!!!
Pismopal - you said:
"The only thing the saudis do for themselves is eat and sexual intercourse. Everything else they hire someone to do for them and most of the hirelings are infidels"
I'd like to know more about the Saudis' toilet habits... do they pay the infidels to wipe their buttocks with the three stones or do they do that for themselves? Or do they have their infidel slave women use their hands instead of the odd numbered stones?
Israeli is part of a bigger plan to distract the USA from Iran and its plan to build a nuke. It no accident Syria has offered to help their buddies, or iran has refused talks. You can expect the rest of them to raise hell all over the place when the Israelis go in. I doubt the US government is smart enough to help you but I wish the Israelis the best, you will shortly be fighting for us all, God Speed and give them hell. The rest of us should be ready, muslims will use this as another excuse to act up. I expect the PC types will demand Israeli back out and “stop the aggression” I personally want you to put the gloves away and destroy those oxygen thieves. Take no prisoners they will just grow up and become another generation of jihadists.
Israel is now waging war in gaza. Israel needs to drive the pals from gaza for their self protection since the pals will not live in peace with Israel.
God is with you o'Israel.
The Texican.
Looks like they're going in.....
Thanks, Plague. It was good of you to take the time to put that together, and I really appreciate it. Can't wait to check it out when I get off work. Thanks again--HAID.
I think there is only one solution to this world-wide problem. Put up a big wall between the Islamic world and the rest of the world. They can have their 7th century fantasy world without TV, Internet, cars, or other corrupting influences. They can drift away into their dream world, undisturbed by the USA, Chinese, India, Isreal, and other countries that are rapidly moving into the future.
We leave them alone, they leave us alone. They can do whatever they want in their crazy world "reservation", we continue to progress. Problem solved.
Hugh,
as a relative newbie on this site (although I have been reading it for quite awhile) I take your extremely well-articulated point.
So how about we cut to the chase when speaking of the Israel/Arab conflict and simply refer to it as the Israeli Front of the Global Jihad?
That should stir some porridge at the BBC!!
And, if the "Palestinians" had the tanks, helicopters and jet fighters, how many Israelis (if they, conversely, only had crude rockets, AK-47's, suicide vests and IED's) would be left alive?
Israel's restraint is what the Muslims fail to grasp.
Until it's too late.