Another honor killing in Britain. Islamization of Europe Alert from the TimesOnline, with thanks to all who sent this in:
A BUSINESSMAN is facing a life sentence for stabbing his sister to death in front of his two young daughters in a so-called honour killing.Azhar Nazir, 30, and his cousin, 17, used four knives to cut Samaira Nazir’s throat and repeatedly stab her after she fell in love with an asylum-seeker from what they saw as an unsuitable caste.
Miss Nazir, 25, had rejected suitors lined up to meet her in Pakistan and had been summoned to the family home in Southall, Middlesex.
The father, also called Azhar, Nazir and the youth launched the attack and at one point dragged her by her hair back into the property.
Miss Nazir, a businesswoman described as “strong-willed”, was heard to shout at her mother, Irshad Begum: “You are not my mother any more.” She was then held down as a scarf was tied around her neck and her throat was cut in three places. Nazir’s daughters, aged 2 and 4, were screaming and were splattered with blood. Police fear that they were ordered to watch as a warning to them. Neighbours called the police after hearing the screaming.
Nazir was found guilty yesterday of murdering his sister; a day after his cousin, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was convicted for his part in the murder. They were remanded in custody and will be sentenced at the Old Bailey in London next month.
The expense of such prosecutions should be added to the overall expenses caused by unrestricted Muslim immigration into Britain.
Four knives? How very brave and manly.
At least they were convicted of murder and not manslaughter on the grounds of "diminished responsibility" because their sister had offended against their "honour". While calling this an honour killing is a good way of drawing attention to Islam's treatment of women, the concept should form no part of English law, whether relating to the offence, the verdict or the sentence.
Honour killing indeed. "Little honour to be much believed," as Shakespeare said. Not that Muslims would like Angelo either - he sentenced the man to death for fornication, not the woman.
Doesn't matter. If you talked about this to any multiculturalist, they would just dismiss this as an isolated incident caused by an economically repressed family that became traumatized by the media's portrayal of Muslims. Oh, and they weren't real Muslims anyway. Multiculturalists don't give a shit about minor obstacles on the road to oblivion, like honor killings.
If there are any people in the UK, anyone in the Media, who give a damn about their nation and the way it is heading, they will take this poor martyred woman as their rallying cry!
Note the use of a cousin who is a juvenile and so cannot be named himself because of his youth.
They get the youngest male of a family to do the killing so that he will attract a lighter sentence than an elder brother or father.
That's when they actually do the killing themselves.
I have posted this before but it is awful enough to merit repeating - Turkey's EU friendly alternative to honour killings, forced suicide.
Yeah, but murdering women is cultural diversity, it's okay. We should admit the Turkey into the EU as fast as possible.
Eh, I meant "admit Turkey," not "the Turkey."
Here is where cultural sensitivity goes mad –
For so many years Islamic women have been saying that they been having problems. But the ultra sensitivity to their culture - was put over giving them real assistance.
When these westernized Islamic women break off from their families they usually try to help other Islamic women in the same position.
This is why the government should get behind troubled these women - because their problems end up being are societies problems. Helping them is one of best ways into the closed Islamic society.
And many times these liberated women go on to marry someone who is not Muslim at all – and that is the end of that.
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Islam kills off its brightest women.
What is it going to take? A Beslan in London? A Beslan in Paris? A Beslan in Berlin? A Beslan in Italy?
I say we arm every Muslim woman. That'll teach the frigging jihadis a lesson
It is not our business to save Islam from itself. Neither should we make it our business to save Muslims from each other.
Sounds harsh? Perhaps.
Or should we not ask: 'What's in it for us?'
"...The expense of such prosecutions should be added to the overall expenses caused by unrestricted Muslim immigration into Britain..."
When I read of these cases, I am always amazed that the mother of the victim usually helps or, at the least, stands by while the violent murder of her daughter occurs. The longer article says that the charges against the mother were dropped. Why? Doesn't Britain have laws directed at persons who are accessories to a murder? Or did the mother of the dead girl come to court in a black burqa, crying and collapsing, putting on a great theatrical/cultural performance that got the charges dropped? Mommie dearest surely knew what Big Brother and Daddy dearest had in store for poor Samaira. How about the small children of the murderer/brother? Hopefully, they have been removed from the house and put into a foster home. As I reread this article, I have less and less sympathy for Muslim women. Most of them are a large part of the worldwide Islamic problem and not part of the solution.
Honor? More like horror. A 2 year old and 4 year old watching this ? Yep, these "people" have "honor".
Let me guess - this lovely family was from Pakistan? Also, whose daughters were 2 & 4 - not the victim's, surely, or she would have been done in long ago.
So in the general knife amnesty these four knifes used for killing some how wjere not given to police,will the politicians make a better effort to get killing weapons out of Muslim hands in the interest of womans safety and public safety Now.
After committing this hideous crime, they, the entire family and their relatives, will be warmly welcomed by their "brothers and sisters" at the neighborhood mosque and honored? What honor are these sick people trying to defend by killing their child? They kill the daughters for seeking happiness and freedom, and they put bombs on the sons to kill innocents. Where is the honor? It might have been an honor if the father and brothers, and the lousy mother had all killed themselves.
For shame, shame, shame.
I am more horrified by the blatant cover up by the media. They purposely use the word caste to make you assume they were hindu even though they have muslim names.
Infidel Pride,
'The Caste System', as it is called, was, in reality, a description of the occupation of people. There were the 'Scholars', 'Warriors', 'Traders', and 'Ironsmiths', and 'Tanners', and 'Milkmen', and 'Farmers'. It is misunderstood, and even though I can be regarded as a 'Westerner' in my thoughts, I understand this caste system for what it was. And, it worked. One cannot expect the offspring of a farmer to adjust in the family of a scholar, in those times, or vice versa. Both came from different backgrounds. Or to expect the offspring of a warrior to be a 'Scholar'. They did receive some basic education, but, they were drilled to be physically fit from the age of 4, much like the Spartans. The case system was occupation based, and it was flexible. One had the option of changing one's caste. It is one of the most misunderstood aspects of Hinduism.
Anyone seen Naseem? Wonder what she says about a 'Muslim sister' butchered by her family. Ooppssss... there is no such things as a 'Muslim sister'. Will Naseem discuss this incident with her daughter-in-law (to be), who is about to take Shada? If so, how?
Anyone seen Naseem? Wonder what she says about a 'Muslim sister' butchered by her family. Ooppssss... there is no such things as a 'Muslim sister'. Will Naseem discuss this incident with her daughter-in-law (to be), who is about to take Shada? If so, how?
I say we arm every Muslim woman. That'll teach the frigging jihadis a lesson
Didn't anyone ever warn you about mother tigers or mother bears?
I say we arm every Muslim woman. That'll teach the frigging jihadis a lesson
Didn't anyone ever warn you about mother tigers or mother bears?
Posted by: gallopinggranny at June 17, 2006 09:05 PM
One would think arming Muslim women would deter fatal attacks against them, but don't be surprised if such a move turns counter-productive. After all, if a mother can watch her daughter butchered, how hard it is for the same mother to use the knife? All you will have is a stabbing contest, which the 'frigging jihadis' will bring to the intended conclusion, albeit, with a little more bloodshed. Point being, if women are the victims, there are women jihadis as well.
Alert,
Yes, agree with you. There are not many muslim females who want to be 'liberated'. Look at naseem here.
Muslims killing Muslims. Ho-hum.
Better than killing infidels.
Let them honor each other to death.
That's their culture.
That's Islam.
The woman should have known better than to stay with such psychos.
She paid, as all Muslim women pay.
As all Muslims pay.
The hell with fools.
They violated the laws of Britain, murder. Unfortunately the UK has abolished capital punishment for Murder, so these 'men' will not get the justice they deserve.
The UK should reestablish the punishment for murder that is inspired by religion, political ideology, racial ideology and others... But the UK will not.
What happened to the England of old? Back in their Empire days, someone explained the Indian custom of Sutti, the burning of the widow on the funeral pyre. The English Commander at the scene explained the English custom of executing murderers and described how a gallows would be constructed to perform their custom. If the Islamofascists are going back to their roots, those in the West should go back to their's.
If the Islamofascists are going back to their roots, those in the West should go back to their's
Posted by: JeromeFromLayton
They are not going back to their roots. They are still at their roots. That is the whole problem.
"Neither should we make it our business to save Muslims from each other."
"Muslims killing Muslims. Ho-hum."
These are not just Muslims, for the time being at least they are residents/citizens of Britain. Even for those who care nothing about resident Muslims' welfare, it should be of enormous concern whether they are terrorized into conformity to the Islamic code. On the face of it, Samaira Nazir was a liberated woman, who could have been a pro-Western (or at least moderating) influence within her community. As far as Britain is concerned her murder represents more than an ordinary crime: it is also part of a war for the loyalty of nominal Muslims, to the umma or to Britain; a war for the suppression of Western values on British territory. Perhaps such murders should be punished with especial severity—though this seems acceptable only as an emergency measure, since it violates equality of treatment before the law.
They are not going back to their roots. They are still at their roots. That is the whole problem.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at June 18, 2006 12:54 AM
Arjun Sevak,
While men and women alike (May Kavita Chawla and her crew-mates rest in peace) of the civilized world conquers the universe, backward, illitrate Muslims go wild over some cartoons, which pretty much proves your point.
You hit the nail here.
You have a point snowpea.
Miss Nazir fell in love with a penniless Afghan refugee so she seemed to have been able to appreciate his intrinstic worth as a human being, that something in him appealed to her, rather than the incredibly status driven machinations that I have noticed among other Pakistanis arranging marriages for their family members.
I wrote a few days ago about a Pakistani colleague whose brother was rejected as a husband by girls parents for many very trivial reasons to do with his height and his job being steady but not prestigious.
On another occasion I was discussing a newspaper item with another Pakistani. The parents of a small boy had sued the (private)hospital where the boys circumcision operation had gone wrong. She said that if he were a Pakistani boy (if the article said I don't remember where his family originated, and whether it was even of religious significance)then a huge amount of compensation would be needed for the boy to attract a wife in the future. She said an English/Christian/Jewish girl would see the boy's personality and other good points when considering him in adulthood as a husband, a Pakistani parent would only see a potential problem in his fathering their grandchildren.
Dr. Muhammad Abdul Bari the leader of the Muslim council of Britain recently smugly stated that arranged marriages would be good for Britain.
Why is Dr. Bari not demanding time on the 6 O'clock news so he can denounce this murder, this cultural obsenity?
Samaira Nazir's death can be directly attributed to arranged marriages, so thank you for your opinion Dr. Bari. Thank you for suggestion people should become less tolerant, intolerant of their children's feelings.
You can do what you like to yourself but you and your macho co-religionist's should not be allowed to inflict your damnable control freakery on to others.
Separately, it's nice to see 2 Algerian terrorist undesireables have been deported from the UK in the last few days. The only reason they have left is because they agreed to go!
snowpea-
The women's death is a tragedy and a crime.
To us.
But to the Ummah, nothing special.
I mock their indifference to the human heart.
Killing someone in front of toddlers just goes to show, again, the ruthlessness of these people. These children will never get over this. I feel for these children growing up in constant violence and fear.