Picked up by a U.S. boat. Watch for the estabishment of the Islamic Republic of Somalia. Somali Jihad Update from the BBC, with thanks to JE:
Two Somali warlords defeated in recent fighting in the capital, Mogadishu, are reported to have fled the country.Bashir Raghe and Muse Sudi Yalahow, both part of a coalition formed to fight an Islamist militia, were said to have left Mogadishu by boat.
The Union of Islamic Courts gained control of the capital two weeks ago after months of fierce fighting.
The lawless city had been controlled by a group of secular warlords since the government fell in 1991.
Reports suggested that the two men had boarded a US vessel off the coast of Somalia.
'Looted'
"Bashir Raghe and Muse Sudi took a boat and they were picked up by the US," a senior aide to the Islamist leadership, Abdulrahman Ali Osman, told Reuters news agency.
Hmmm. I keep wanting to say 'a Pox on both parties.'...
I mean, look at it:
Blowback in Bosnia, thanks to Clinton. We now have an al-quaida base there.
Mayyyybe the Taliban coming back in Afghanistan.
I still have hopes for Iraq, as this gentleman argues:
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
And now, Blowback in Somalia, thanks to Clinton.
Well, we knew these things would go back and forth. Let's just hope President Bush stays the course as he just indicated.
I wonder how many of our fine men and women in the military will die in order to help Somalia write an Islamist Constitution (see Afghanistan).
No aid should be given by Western nations on the theory that it is "only humanitarian." Let Saudi Arabia make Somalia its project.
No Somalis should be allowed into Western lands for they simply swell the ranks of those who either are adherents of a belief-sysem inimical to all Infidels, or if they are not full adherents, can become so at any time, or their children or grandchildren can, and we should not take that risk. Furthermore, in answer to those who say that some are "moderates" fleeing the "Islamic" takeover, their "moderation" is entirley relative, akin to that of certain Afghani warlords who opposed the Taliban, and whose services may be welcome in Afghanistan, but who themselves, or any of those supporting them, should not, out of some diseased sense of what they are owed (they are owed nothing), be admitted into the Lands of the Infidels.
Any such "refugees" that might flee from Somalia can go to any number of Muslim lands, and should. They can go, for example, to Saudi Arabia, where foreigners who can work are always needed. Treatment not so good? Too bad -- that's an intra-Muslim affair, not ours.
Or to sunny Egypt, with a view of the Nile. Egypt won't let them, you say? Egypt just treated terribly some refugees from Darfur, now living in Israel? Well, we can make Egypt let them. Begin by cutting off, not merely cutting, the Jizyah of foreign aid to meretricious, corrupt, sinister Egypt, our "allly" Egypt, with its Democracy-Is-On-the-March farce and American taxpayers footing the bill -- $60 billion and counting -- for the Mubarak Friends-and-Family Plan. No more Lewistons.
You know that phrase in those ads -- "No Hidden Costs." The "hidden costs" of Muslim immigrants -- look at France, England, Germany, Italy, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Spain, Belgium (shall I go on?)-- are considerable. The "hidden costs" are not seen because the belief-system of Islam, and its effects on attitudes toward Infidels, is something not declared in the mental baggage broght by Muslim immigrants. Those "hidden costs" include societies now riven by disquiet and alarm, and huge expenses for monitoring or placating or "integrating" -- vainly, in almost all cases, if by "integrating" we mean making them into loyal citizens of the Infidel nation-state, and not people whose loyalty to the umma al-islamiyya transcends everything else. And finally those "hidden costs" include a sense of physical insecurity, on the part of Infidels in their own countries, on planes or trains or busses, at Christian or Jewish day schools, at sports events, at government offices and official functions -- all of it an effect of the large-scale presence of Muslims, who through their organizations work tirelessly to undo the laws, the customs, the understandings, the legal and political and social institutions of this country and of all Infidel countries.
The policies that were the result of negligence born of ignorance must not be continued. Not with "refugees" from Somalia or any other Muslim country, and not with Muslims coming from other Western countries. This has to be comprehended not just by the INS, but by all the immigration services in the Western world. Now.
These 2 Somali warlords are of course 'friends & trusted allies' of the US and must be given asylum. They will bring their 4 wives and 15 to 30 children each, they will bring their friends and cronies in the hundreds, perhaps several thousand (they all need protection)
The US will settle the whole tribe, all of them 'good muslims', including FGM, hatred of infidels, the works. ..
They will be settled in the USA in some unsuspecting neighborhood, no expenses spared, they will get housing, welfare, childcare... etc. etc.
Social workers will look after them, they will be trained to do jobs in which they will never work, and then there will be rapes, robberies, all kinds of attacks on infidels and the hated Jooooozzz, and the MSM will look away, and the Clitmans & Khadrs and other 'liberal' candidates will promise them all kinds of extras if they would only vote for them... and so on and so on...
See: I can tell the future without a crystal ball. Happy with my prognosis?
Hugh: "Not with "refugees" from Somalia or any other Muslim country, and not with Muslims coming from other Western countries. This has to be comprehended not just by the INS, but by all the immigration services in the Western world. Now."
This appears to be THE lynchpin to defeating the jihad. Because clearly this trend towards Islamization of Muslim countries shows no sign of abating - and is in fact increasing. And the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (as well as the elections in the PA and Egypt) should have proven to most by now that Muslims will voluntarily elect Islamists - will choose MORE Islam as the solution to their problems. Which will lead the so-called "moderate" Muslims to seek refugee status in the west - only to turn around after one generation and tell their western hosts that the solution to their (all too common human) problems is MORE Islam - exactly what these ingrates escaped in the first place.
But in previous threads we've seen anecdotal evidence from non-westerners of infiltration of Muslims into the west's immigration services, who deny asylum to Christians and other infidels fleeing persecution while granting asylum to Muslims.
THAT is what we need to stop. But how? The anecdotal evidence suggests that noone at INS cares. Do we need a congressional investigation of the INS? Where do we start in a practical sense?
Arm Ethiopia, or rather, arm and suppor the Christians in Ethiopia. Make sure that they are guarding their borders, or if necessary, entering Somalia.
And back Ethiopia -- or rather, the Christians of Ethiopia -- in their attempt to irrigate their land by diverting the headwaters of the Nile, as they every right to do so. Egypt has been bullying Ethiopia, telling it not to dare to try to end its droughts and famines by taking Nile waters -- or at least not without the express permission of the Arabs of Egypt, who apparently think they own the Nile.
They don't. They have received $60 billion from American Infidels. They do nothing for us in return. And they dare to bully the one Christian kingdom -- the site, in the hopeful belief of the medieval Christians besieged by the forces of Islam, of Prester John's mythical kingdom (transferred mentally from Asia to Africa, from India to Abyssinia). Support Ethiopia to the hilt.
And right now, hope that American aid, through Ethiopia, can bottle up the Somali government, or whatever passes for it nowadays.
Don't you understand? It's just a way to get out from under all that "foreign interference."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/95E63EDD-7866-4D8E-98CF-95420D944C42.htm
And the new leaders have rolled up their sleeves and are "restoring calm."
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-somalia17jun17,1,6122768.story?coll=la-headlines-frontpage
Cuz, don't you know, that's what jihadis do (at least according to fatuous media outlets like the L.A. Times).
I reproduce here my comment from an earlier thread. There is no doubt in my mind that many more Somali Muslim savages (and they are savages, believe me) will soon join their compatriots in Minnesota. I truely believe that there is no longer any hope. The West will fall and a new and endless darkness will descend upon the world.
Look for a few hundred thousand Somalis to be granted refugee status and allowed instant admission to the United States. This is what happened after "Blackhawk Down". (Incidentally, people infected with HIV/AIDS were included in that batch. To have excluded them would have been racism.)
Although portions of Minneapolis, Mankato, and some other areas of Minnesota have been occupied, there are still some parts of the state where infidels actually can leave their homes without being beaten and sometimes killed by our Muslim overlords in the process of extracting the jizya. The Somali brothers can use some reinforcement, and I confidently predict that they will soon receive it.
Don't worry, be happy!
Islam is a religion of peace!
Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!
Allahu akbar!
Only one solution may be needed, that is once a country falls to Islam cut it off, nothing allowed in or out, no food, medicine, goods, nothing. They want to live in total isolation let them, see how Allah feeds them, allow people neither in nor out.
Only one solution may be needed, that is once a country falls to Islam cut it off, nothing allowed in or out, no food, medicine, goods, nothing. They want to live in total isolation let them, see how Allah feeds them, allow people neither in nor out.
I seriously doubt that Somalia will establish a brutal Sharia government. Much of the country has lived under war lords for years. They would not support a non-secular government despite being Muslims. Additionally the leader of the ICU sent a letter saying he is not an enemy of the US. Either way we shall see.
LOL Gary, as ever you are a blindered mule.
Yep, everything is the fault of Clinton, and nothing the fault of Bush. err get a clue. Who is President of the U.S.?(Hint it ain't Clinton), who is in charge, who is Captain of the Ship of State? Hint (initials GWB). Clinton WAS (fill in your own epithet and description) but Clinton WAS (thus isn't Captain of the Ship of State. And what has this Captain you love delivered? Why an Afghanistan as Taliban as it ever was In fact it wouldn't have been Taliban at all were it not for (gasp) Ronald Reagan. And stay the course in Iraq? Towards what end, it is already a fundamentalist Islamic state, that has Shari'a as the basis of law and constitution, which executes people who sell beer and wine, prostitutes and gays (OK I know that gets your applause..except perhaps for the prohibition on booze).