I am not surprised at all that some non-Islamic countries have offered them help to defeat the Americans. It is unproven, but not unbelievable, in light of the short-sightedness and ignorance about jihad of most Western analysts.
"Taliban Military Commander Mullah Dadallah: We are in Contact With Iraqi Mujahideen, Osama bin Laden & Al-Zawahiri; Non-Islamic Countries Have Offered Help in Defeating the Americans," from MEMRI, with thanks to Sr. Soph:
The following are excerpts from an interview with Taliban military commander Mullah Dadallah, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on May 31, 2006.TO VIEW THIS CLIP, VISIT: http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1156.
"Would You Believe That Some Non-Islamic Countries Have Offered Us Support... [To Help Us] Defeat the Americans[?]"
Mullah Dadallah: "The infidels who have occupied our country and some other Muslim countries - not only Afghanistan - have hatched a great plot to destroy Islam. We resolved to expel the infidels from all Muslim countries, not only from Afghanistan. We will continue with this until our last breath."
Interviewer: "Are there specific reasons for this escalation? Did you obtain new weapons? Did you receive support from neighboring countries, or from Islamic countries?"
Mullah Dadallah: "Allah be praised, the Islamic countries don't mind if we inflict losses upon the infidels and defeat them. America is the big snake that wants to bite everybody. Would you believe that some non-Islamic countries have offered us support? They offered [to help us] defeat the Americans."
Interviewer: "Yes, but did any country actually help you in your recent operations?"
Mullah Dadallah: "These are matters of military tactics, which I cannot divulge. Doing so will not benefit us in any way. Some of them may have helped us in this."
Of course there are non-Islamic countries who gave aid and succour to the Islamists -- France, China, North Korea, Russia, all for the purpose of sticking it to the US and any of its allies.
Add in Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba - got to stick it to the Gringos.
Just like we used Islamic nuts to take down the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, tit for tat.
North Korea is also helping them out. Hugo Chavez of Venezuala is getting cozy with Castro, North Korea, Russia and Iran. Its all about causing the US to overspend using a million dollar cruise missle to blow up a tent.
Add the loss of a huge segment of our industry to China, China devaluing their currency, buying up our notes we have huge trouble on our hands.
The Chinese are not our friends.
Just like the Japanese when they bought up all thracks from a subway system then shot the steel back at us in the form of bullets, bombs, ships and airplanes.
History repeats but do we ever pay attention?
thracks should be the tracks
Stupid fat fingers gah.
You can almost hear the chuckle of the Islamists at the thought of how incredibly stupid we infidels are for fighting amongst ourselves and betraying each other... when in the grand scheme of theirs they plan to spare none of us!!!
Shiite Muslims riot after TV program mocks Hezbollah leader
By The Associated Press
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/722273.html
yes...muslim....as china and russia mock you and your little demon.
Would you believe that some non-Islamic countries have offered us support?
Um that would be a big NO! Consider the source, although anything is possible any real “support” would have been noticed by our intel bubbas. This is probably just more muslim BS. Why doesn’t he discuss real issues like why they kill so many of their own and why anyone would believe a mujahidin spokesperson, Hillery Clinton has more credibility.
Okay, so there are a "few radicals" out there, both Islamic and their supporters, willing to help the "few radicals" in Afghanistan (and presumably Iraq).
But where is the "vast majority of moderates", both Muslims and their supporters, willing to help the "vast majority of moderates" in Afghanistan (and Iraq)?
If there are so many "moderate" Muslims out there, why aren't they just swamping those "few radicals"? Based on the number of "radicals" fighting us in Afghanistan and Iraq, the country should be just bursting with "moderates", they must be sleeping 10 to a bed.
Why do all of the people coming to Iraq to fight, come to fight on the side of the "few radicals", to enslave them in some twisted, perverted version of the Religion of Peace (tm)? Surely there must be swarms of "moderates" who think that democracy, freedom, prosperity, education, are all values worth fighting for, to bring to their Muslim brothers and sisters.
So, where are they?
oh the big scary talibaan has some secrets to impart on jejeerja.. big deal.. there are a lot more talibaan getting shot up than any western country.
these brave talibaan who ambush unarmed civilians, kill teachers, plant road side bombs.. yeah what a bunch of cowards that get air time, and stupid people who believe all the crap they sprew out.
I heard that Pukeistan, Fecestan, Vomitonus and Fornicatus have all pledged their help. We're in for it now!
More targets.
Missiles don't discriminate.
A predator drone can't tell a North Korean advisor from an Afghan Taliban.
And, once they're both struck by a Hellfire rocket, neither can the coroner.
As George Bush won't say:
Bring it on!
Well, the way things are lookin now. We might better take stock in what old Mo's saying. When he gets the bomb for real, what will we do then?
Party time.
Most likely these would be (if this is true) Communist-bloc countries possibly including China, Russia, France(which despite widespread belief to the contrary is heavily influenced by a strong Communist party, of which Jacques Chirac was once a member and is not yet known to have renounced his political leanings), Cuba, Venezuela, possibly also Communist-sympathizing countries such as Bolivia, Brazil, and India. There are probably others and we'll find out who they are. I wouldn't be surprised if Germany, Belgium, Spain and other member states (and our alleged "allies") in the EU were among their ranks.
China needs to buy up all of America's debt.
There is no law that says the US has to buy back debt from foreign nations.
And just who will collect from us if we do not pay???
We may be damaged in the next phase of the war with islam and others, but our navy has subs setting off all shores waiting for the shooting war to start and then all hell will be loosed.
Only one nation has used nukes on an enemy.....
MADD works only for sane people and iran is not sane.
Prepare, be armed, be ready.
The Texican,
Freedom, the only choice at any cost and the cost will be immense.
Rest asure that no combination of countries is helping the Taliban more than our alleged ally Pakistan. The same country that we are giving billions of dollars to. If we do fail in Afghanistan ( or get forced out ) it will be soley because of our inability to confront Pakistan. Ditto in the capture of Osama Bin Laden.
----Nossy
"If we do fail in Afghanistan ( or get forced out ) it will be soley because of our inability to confront Pakistan."
If we fail? These matters could be over as we see fit, not on the status of another country thoughts on the matter.
We must think we can do our own interests for ourselves, not the wishes of the followers and countrys who bow to islam.
I was a little bit bothered by Ronin's gratuitous attack on Hilary Clinton. Hilary is probably among the better Democrats who stands a chance at power and may get the problem with Islam in the world today. She certainly is not reflexively anti-American like so many Democrats are. No doubt, she'll try to triangulate some, but still there is every reason to suspect that she'll come closer to what we want than Bush or McCain.
The Islam issue is far too important to not to reach out to the more reasonable elements of the Democratic Party. We have to remember that FDR, Truman, Kennedy, and LBJ all got the cold war for the most part. Kennedy and LBJ may have been a little too enthusiastic about de-colonization. But is that really so much different than current Republican senators who obsess over attacking the current Burmese government or who want to make China--not Islam--into the enemy?
With Dubya and Condi heading the govt. is anyone surprised at this news?
pythagoras,
You can strike India from your list above. And we are not communists. Neither do we lean towards them.
I agree that India shouldn't be in that list, arjun.sevak, but I disagree that India doesn't "lean" towards communism. This has been and continues to be one of the major sticking points in US/India relations -- two otherwise natural allies.
Glad to see the USA warming relations with India finally. VERY Sad to see India announce the trilateral alliance with Russia (pink) and China (red) we learned about in late 2005...
jsla,
You are right about this jsla. We had a very active left front in India. It survives on muslim votes. What the Hindus think is different from these lefts. But the Hindus came to power in 1997 and the government fell in 2004. Now the left front is making stupid changes in policy. We hate the guts of China, it took Tibet from us in 1965. The Hindus hate it, but the left are in power today, and they are leaning towards our enemy. We do understand that the Indian Army is not going to show all its weapons/tactics to these chinese. But it is indeed sad to see my country on the wrong path again. These are trying times for Hindus.
India has been getting very touchy feely with Iran of late. Iran has vast petro deposits which India is eying longingly. Perhaps longingly enough to be an accessory to Iran in its global jihad?
If you said 'no', you might wish to reconsider: India is planning to build a massive petroleum pipeline from Iran to the Indian subcontinent. And of course, Iran will promptly put the cash earned from this to use financing its own Hizbollah and other Islamic terror networks and activities). And India knows that too I might (which seems odd as India's government is probably going to be getting many of its own people killed by doing this...and yet somehow that does not appear to be sinking in).
In short, India is jumping through hoops for Iran (and petroleum-based industrialization) these days. India will only consolidate and accelerate its efforts in this regard in the immediate future. And sadly, I must conclude India will therefore junk its ties with America 100 % very shortly. If Indians do not openly offer help to Taliban they may not be as far away from doing so as some think. The petroleum is doing the talking for India.
Subsequently, I do NOT have any faith in India doing the right thing AT ALL for the present. Sorry.
We must remain hopeful with India -- She's certainly not alone in her thirst for oil Pythagoras! I think, in the end, India will be pivotal in defeating Islamic Jihad -- It is the only nation today that is a potential superpower, has unlimited human resources, is proximal to the entire fight, and leans towards the West and the forces of good. She is unlike all of her dastardly neighbors, and the Indians have emerged as a genuinely (albeit very imperfect) pluralistic society... She doesn't have the deadly homogenous drives which compel China and all of Islam. She is a bright spot in a very dark region. We shouldn't lose sight of that fact.
russia helped saddam move his chemical weapons into syria. russia provided iraq with weapons. russia is helping iran obtain nuclear power/weapons. russia is supplying the taliban with new rifles and shoulder fired missles.
but these are mere speculations.
http://www.worldthreats.com/
"The infidels ... have hatched a great plot to destroy Islam.
WE WISH!!! This is likely "projection" (or "transference"): The Muslims HAVE hatched a great plot to destroy the infidels
pythagoras,
It never helped matters when the U.S. keeps pakistan afloat. Even now the Bush administration is considering giving pakistan Harpoon missile systems. Sometime last year, this admin. gave F-16's and a few billion dollars aid to pakistan. The F-16's were free. We bought our F1-6's. The U.S. admin. knows that these weapons are for use against India. Always against India. And China supplied nucleur and missile tech. to pakistan too. The problem is, the U.S. admin. is turning a blind eye to the fact that pak is using every dollar it can in its jihad against India in Kashmir and on the taliban in afghanistan. This is a very basic fact. Look at the irony, the U.S. and China, both feeding pakistan. China feeds it so pak can destabilese India. The U.S. does not want to destab. India, we know that. But all that weapons and aid are going to cause just that.
Pakistan IS a serious source of Islamic terror I agree with you. But if nothing else, Pakistan at least has a temperate, apparently sane leader who is not currently threatening to wipe anyone off the map which cannot be said for Iran's mullahs. Musharraf has taken action against Islamic terrorists on his own soil (I do not say he has taken enough but at least he has taken SOME). Can you name for us even ONE Islamic terrorist rounded up by the Iranian mullahs? However much Pakistan is playing a double game, at least Musharraf and his government extradite Islamic terrorists to the west some of whom have produced information useful to the west. And, by the way, India produces Islamic terrorists too...some of them have been arrested on American soil(one was named Lakhani who was caught selling stinger missiles by the US government in New Jersey a few years back).
However, if I am not mistaken the terror network Hizbollah (which is the brainchild of the Iranian mullahs) is the largest Islamic terror network in the world. HIzbollah predates al-qaeda and has killed even more people. Hizbollah is believed by reliable experts in the studies of Islamic terror to be even more dangerous than al-Qaeda. This should be taken seriously by the Indian government. Iran by the way also routinely conspires with al-Qaeda too. Notice if you will that Ousamah bin Laden wears an IRANIAN-style turban (Saudis usually don't wear these yet bin laden does).
I must therefore disagree with on the strongest terms possible agout Iran. Iran is officially listed by the US Pentagon as the world's single largest source of Islamic terrorism and has been for at least 25 years. In addition, Iran is a vastly wealthier country than Pakistan ever was. Iran therefore has much deeper pockets to supply Islamic terror networks with capital and can allocate far greater human and technological resources to terror networks than Pakistan could.
India's investing huge sums of capital in Iran can only worsen matters regarding Islam's global jihad. The world community (and the citizens of India) should sue India's government for reckless endangerment.
Pythagoras,
NO sane Hindu goes with the idea of a pipeline. Neither does the Indian Army. We know, it is just common sense, that oil coming from a pipeline over hostile territory(pakistan) can be turned off at will. The minister who planned this did it for muslim votes (sic). He was sacked from the ministry and made incharge of commonwealth games 2010. Rest assured, it will not be made. And oil from this pipeline is unviable, economically too.
Of course there will be terrorists from India. You know our muslim population. They are damn over 100 million. They also kill in Kashmir.
What I was pointing out Pythagoras, that China funds and arms pakistan. And the U.S. also give freebies like F-16's to pakistan. This is an irony.
This is also an irony that in India, the Hindus are discriminated against by the politicians for seeking votes of muslims living in ghettos. The vote of a P.hd holder Hindu and a fanatic would-be jihadi carry the same power. I know, the Hindus are in serious trouble and many of them will not make it when the muslims riot full scale. On a smaller scale, there are riots somewhere in India daily. And you know who starts them. The muslims want India.