The Global Range of Iran's Ballistic Missile Program

Some important observations from Uzi Rubin at the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs (thanks to US Infidel):

* The Iranians know they cannot win a war against the United States. Their stated policy is to deter the U.S. and its allies by threatening a war that will cause such damage at such a price that this option will become unacceptable. With this perspective, they are investing very smartly in deterrence enhancers and force multipliers instead of replacing obsolete equipment.

* What does Iran invest in? Precision strike munitions, anti-ship missiles, nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and space capabilities. The newer Shahab 3ER missile (based on the North Korean No Dong), with a reach of 2,000 km, can threaten Ankara or Alexandria, giving Iran leverage over the entire Middle East.

* Iran has acquired eighteen BM25 land-mobile missiles with launchers from North Korea, which can strike targets in Europe. In the past, the BM25 has been produced in two models: one with a range of 2,500 km and the second with a range of 3,500 km.

* Well-substantiated reports indicate that the Iranians managed to smuggle out of Ukraine several Russian Kh 55 strategic cruise missiles, probably not to be deployed but to be emulated and copied.

* In 1998 Iran announced a space program. A space launcher that can orbit a satellite weighing 300 kg can be altered into an ICBM that could drop more than 300 kg on Washington.

* Iran's political leadership is now aiming toward global power projection in the name of Islam, demanding recognition that Islam comprises 25 percent of humanity and should occupy its rightful place in decision-making in world affairs. Statements like this are not about self-defense.

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Iran's political leadership is now aiming toward global power projection in the name of Islam, demanding recognition that Islam comprises 25 percent of humanity and should occupy its rightful place in decision-making in world affairs. Statements like this are not about self-defense.


What decisions are those I wonder?

Besides the UN is already a forum for Islamic views to be thrust down the throats of the free world.

The time is now to stop aggressive Islam, engage Irans theocracy now, militarily destroy their ability to project power both externally and internally and let the country implode.

Check back in 25 years to see if they have managed to climb up to the next evolutionary rung of the ladder.

This fall will NOT be the time to vote in the cut-and-run Dhimmicrats.

Hey we just believe Aminagonad that all this hardware is for generating electricity. Or at least some people blindly believe he is just a peaceful man.

Fire 1, fire 2, fire 3.

I agree with Gary. Ths cause of freedom can not be put in the hands of spineless Dhimmicrats. While I'm not entirely happy with how this administration has handled things, what with their spewing of that "Religin of Peace" claptrap, the Dhimmicrats are currently controlled by leftist whacko types who have other priorities than the defense of this country and Western Civilization. To them, there is no problem with Islam. Don't believe me? Check out democraticunderground, dailykos and other leftist websites to see what these fools are all about.

We are entering a time of extreme danger where stout hearts and clarity of purpose are paramount.

I agree with Gary. Ths cause of freedom can not be put in the hands of spineless Dhimmicrats. While I'm not entirely happy with how this administration has handled things, what with their spewing of that "Religin of Peace" claptrap, the Dhimmicrats are currently controlled by leftist whacko types who have other priorities than the defense of this country and Western Civilization. To them, there is no problem with Islam. Don't believe me? Check out democraticunderground, dailykos and other leftist websites to see what these fools are all about.

We are entering a time of extreme danger where stout hearts and clarity of purpose are paramount.

To my knowledge the safest way to handle the Iranian threat is to deploy and detonate EMP weapons over Iranian and other Islamic nations' airspace. What this would do is eliminate their capacity to launch their weapons against western targets by destroying their electronic infrastructure. It would result in far fewer lives lost than if the Iranians and the other Islamic(and Islamic-allied) aggressors launch their weapons mentioned in the above article.

And, the United States had better get on with this NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would suggest all USA-based Jihad Watch readers talk to their representatives about this immediately. I wish I didn't have to mention this (I would have thought it was the OBVIOUS solution) but apparently no one is thinking along these lines (at least no one I have encountered).

In addition, since it is clear that North Korea is in bed with the Iranian mullahs, the US might be advised to apply the same strategy over North Korea.

The enemies are stalking us and have been for some time. They are ruthless in their ambitions to ramrod their pet ideologies down the throats of much of the world at all costs. It's time the western world took action and if it doesn't take action soon it may come too late.

republican or demicrat,eitheir was America is screwed,neither one of them care about "We the People"Congress have voted EVERY year for ten years to vote THEMSELVES a pay raise,they voted down a bill to increase the minimum wage.What did they do for"We the people"?Not a raise thats for sure.We dont have anybody who wants to work for"We the People"and America.They have all sold us out.

. . . demanding recognition that Islam comprises 25 percent of humanity and should occupy its rightful place in decision-making in world affairs.

Yeah, right. Twenty five percent of the world's population . . . and one percent of the world's GDP. Well done muslims.

OH but you little people of little Faith we are not doomed or lost?

IT was the Congress of the USA that payed for the missel defence and the bombs that killed fat boy[STILL DEAD]

The Dimmicrats would have you wearing burkas cause like ubl[YELLOW COWARD WHO RUNS AWAY] are birds of a feather!!

This war is being Won and will be Won will it be ugly you bet but how ugly it gets is if you let the dividers and the cut and run crowd win support those who fight and screw the cowards who want to run and hide CAUSE THEIR AIN NO WHERE TO RUN OR HIDE IT IS TIME FOR FIGHTING AND SEND THE GIRLI MEN HOME!!

Just a reminder??
http://www.robesus.com/usanthem.html
Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, now conceals, now discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner! O long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wiped out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
YES THIS IS WHAT AMERICA IS MADE OF!!


YES REMEMBER WASHINGTON LOST MANY BATTLES BUT WON THE FIGHT??

REMEMBER WE LOST BATTLES IN WW2 BUT WON THE FIGHT were there grilimen then YEA YOU BET!!

BUT WE SENT THEM HOME AND FOUGHT AND WON!!


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Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT TEM AMEN

Fallingprophet,
Was not aware of these particular statistics. Looking forward for more of your posts.

We needed Saddam Hussein to deter Iran. Because when Saddam Hussein was in power, the number one threat to Iran from from Iraq. Now they're going global and they want to fight the US.

The threat was not from Iraq, but from Iran.

George Bush, you idiot!!!!

A madman killed 6 million Jews 60 years ago. The world said that will never happen again. But Islam is Intent on killing the Jews, Its in the Islamic endtime.. The trees will call out Oh muslim there is a Jew behind me come and kill him. Mamound wants to nuke Israel in the name of Mohammad. I get so sick of people defending Islam or Muslims. Did the World say o.k. Hitler is dead, the German people have a right to be Nazi Germany we should understand.NO the World did not!..Why do we allow CAIR LIARS and P.C. pukes to lie and call us names for standing for decency. Anyone who wants to debate or call me names for calling Islam evil and that it should be banned. Have at it...But I will not STOP. Islam is evil to the core and like a weed must be pulled from the root.

"We needed Saddam Hussein to deter Iran. Because when Saddam Hussein was in power, the number one threat to Iran from from Iraq. Now they're going global and they want to fight the US.

The threat was not from Iraq, but from Iran.

George Bush, you idiot!!!!
Posted by: Voltaire"

====================

Yea, now there's smart thinkin' fer ye.

Hey Voltaire, remember when Saddam was paying homocide bombers' families in palestine $15k > $25k after the deed was done, gassing citizens of his own country and basically thumbing his nose at the World? I believe your Bush hating has clouded your judgement when it comes to Saddam and the war in Iraq. The world is a safer place because of George Bush's decision to remove Saddam from power... now if he could only use some additional intestinal fortitude when it comes to naming islam as the enemy of freedom everywhere, we would be that much closer to ending this charade called the religion of peace and label it what it truly is... a death cult that needs to be squashed under foot.

Sincerely.

From the full article: "Iran's missiles are not controlled by the military, they are controlled by the Revolutionary Guard, which has its own air force, ground force, and navy, and which reports to Iran's spiritual leader."

If it is true that these missiles are controlled by the Revolutionary Guard (that is, by the Islamic supreme ayatollahs) and not by the regular Iranian military (and I have no reason to doubt this statement), then these weapons are acquired clearly for the sole purpose of Islamic jihad--to terrorize civilized countries into inaction and eventual submission. These weapons are not, as stated in the article, for self defense. And they are not under positive control of any moral authority.

We need to destroy these weapons soon. We should also completely destroy the Iranian oil producing capability. Iran cannot acquire or maintain expensive weaponry without the easy income from oil.

The threat was not from Iraq, but from Iran.
George Bush, you idiot!!!!
Posted by: Voltaire at June 21, 2006 03:31 PM

Maybe you didn’t keep up on current events but it was President Bush during his State of the Union address in Jan 2002 Who said the Axis of evil N.Korea, Iraq, and Iran
Now you can try to change history but history IS??
Now you BLOBs may not know What IS IS but us rednecks do!!

IN what you aids and abets the enemies of the USA and her Friends trying to weaken the ones who stand and fight this axias of evil WHICH MEANS MORE THAN 1 ENEMY YES IT MEANS ENEMIES SO PICK A SIDE for this fight is on you sound as if you side with the enemies who are savages who cut off the heads of people??

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME,

http://www.beecy.net/frank/


Just a reminder sometimes helps or are you really with the enemies???

Again Samuel Adams is apropos:

"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, 'What should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your consul, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget ye were our countrymen."
Posted by: Kemaste at January 13, 2005 08:35 PM

YES what you do is help the enemies WHICH MEANS MORE THAN 1??
BY trying to divide to conquer? Again I ask you why would you help the enemies?

AGAIN WHAT DID BUSH SAY IN JAN 2002 AXIAS OF EVIL AND WHO WAS IT HE CALL THE AXAIS??

Part of the American Tribe
Squirrel Hunter
Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

Good point, Spider Killer.

Correction: In my posting above, the end of the middle paragraph should read as follows:

"As the article states, these weapons are not for self defense."

Catherine:

I generally enjoy your postings but there are two things I wish to tell you.

First, although we can see in hindsight Bush would definitely have been better off going after the Iranian mullahs as opposed to Saddam Hussein, this does NOT mean Saddam Hussein was not a threat (a recent MEMRI video of an interview with one of the Hussein regime's ex-generals emphasized that the Russians armed the Iraqi dictator with nuclear weapons technology, chemical and biological weapons---that was Saddam Hussein's government that contaminated the Washington, DC building with anthrax in 2001 right after 9-11---which the Russian government supplied the Hussein government with in order to destabilize the western democracies with; before the US-led attack on Iraq Soviet Spetznik forces removed most of what WMD were there).

Secondly, the REAL lesson that should have been learned from America's Iraq experience is THAT VIRTUALLY ALL ISLAMIC NATIONS ARE DANGEROUS IN THE EXTREME TO HUMANITY. EVERY ONE OF THEM---- FROM INDONEIA TO SENEGAL TO ALBANIA!

We cannot say one is really more dangerous to the world than the other. They are all dangerous, armed, and set to attack. The only noteable difference is that one Islamic regime at a time seems to be chosen by the mosques to attack the west. Now it's Iran's turn. Next year it may be Morrocco, the year after it may be Malaysia, etc.
In fact, it is possible that Saddam Hussein MAY have been chosen by the mosques to attack the west but shifted their plans to nearby Iran when Bush started shooting off his big mouth about invading Iraq (giving the Middle East mosques plenty of time to change their jihad strategies).

That is the lesson should have been learned. When that point finally sinks in it will dawn on you not so much that Bush is an idiot than the reality that few of us realized any of this when we entered into the new millennium. I think Bush simply had no idea of what was lurking out there and with very limited intelligence on Islam came to a faulty conclusion--as did most of the western world (although our former EU and other allies arrivd at OTHER equally faulty conclusions). I agree Bush has been a major let down--but where have we NOT been let down in the struggle against Islamic terrorism?????

America will probably get through this crisis with the Iranian mullahs somehow, and when it does some other Islamic country is going to come to the fore and create ANOTHER lethal crisis in global affairs that we will be forced to handle.

The newer Shahab 3ER missile (based on the North Korean No Dong)...

That's no way to talk about the Dear Leader. He's five foot two in heels.

500 Missiles found in Iraq , filled with sarin and mustard gas.....GOOD JOB MR.PRESIDENT!

Don't get worried about iran, iraq beat them, nuff said.


OT, but worth a read IMHO.
I used this on another thread which I thought had ended and was surprised it had not. On it a muslim troll was talking about good deeds. Since our muslim troll brought up good deeds are paid in the afterlife, I offer this, muslims live to die, thinking they get rewarded in the next life. If that goal is to happen someone has to kill them or nature will take longer to finish them off and make them suffer a long wait, so unfair. So it stands to reason killing a muslim is committing a “good deed” because it sends them to hell quicker and they can join their prophet. They want to die, we want them gone, so every call for fire mission is a “good deed”, they die fast and they benefit from it. That realization proves muslims owe a debt of gratitude to all infidel warriors, be they American, Jewish, whatever. I did my part and too my muslim friends everywhere, you are welcome, glad I could help, say howdy to old mo. BTW, you muslims can donate money to the VFW, American Legion and the VA to say "thank you" for us sending so many of you to your reward earlier than mother nature would have. Also, join in the fun, stop blogging join al qaida, get your butts to iraq, allah is waiting and I’m sure my friends will happily send you on your way. We are glad to help.

Interested: Isn't Kim Jong-il really a woman in drag????

500 Missiles found in Iraq , filled with sarin and mustard gas.....GOOD JOB MR.PRESIDENT!

Posted by: storagemanager,

really?when was this.

500 Missiles found in Iraq , filled with sarin and mustard gas.....GOOD JOB MR.PRESIDENT!

Posted by: storagemanager,

really?when was this.

500 Missiles found in Iraq , filled with sarin and mustard gas.....GOOD JOB MR.PRESIDENT!

Posted by: storagemanager,

really?when was this.

sean hannity's radio show just had it. fox news t.v.....not on web yet.

Pythagoras: In defense of Catherine, she was reacting to Voltaire's comment about President Bush. Voltaire said basically that Bush went after the wrong target and missed the point that Iran was a threat. Bush, in fact, knew all along that Iran was a serious threat and demonstrated that knowledge conclusively by including that country in the Axis of Evil grouping.

Generally, I agree with your posting otherwise. Islam is the enemy, by their own definition, as daily demonstrated by copious hateful statements and violent and contemptuous behavior worldwide.

I doubt that there is any high level coordination about who will attack the west and when. Islam has no timetable, and does not need to be "monolithic" or even well-coordinated to be a serious threat to the civilized nations. By ideologicl imperative, those Muslims (and Islamic countries) who are in a position to attack are required to do so as a religious duty. Iran sees in current circumstances an opportunity for martyrdom, and is making a splash. We need to bloody their nose, sooner better than later. A stitch in time saves nine.

sorry about the multiple post's,dont know why it did it.

Posted by: pythagoras at June 21, 2006 05:41 PM

HIND SMIGHT The UN and the broken treadtys said we could stop 1 of those country's look now how the un won't even press iran?

You can live in la la land but the Facts are the Facts!

Breaking news over 500 cem weapons recovered from Iraq!!

IF the world would grow a set we would not be crying now BUT the lib's have let the human rights groups of the islamic over throw of the west prevail all the while bashing those who fight!

I say to you GROW UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!

Hell what is your country doing to stop the monsters ??

Lets remember we even had enemies within our own CIA who route for the enemies of this nation all for a few bucks NOW THAT IS SICK!!

You sound like kids fighting over a ball on the playground instead of all of you playing a game with that sameball which would be much more fun!!!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/7/6/230805.shtml
Tuesday, July 6, 2004 11:01 p.m. EDT
Enriched Uranium Removed From Iraq
Nearly two tons of low-enriched uranium has been removed from an Iraqi nuclear facility in a secret operation conducted by the U.S. Energy Department.


OH YEA FAT BOY[still dead] WASN'T THERE WRONG

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/12/24/61553.shtml
Uranium Found at bin Laden Base
Newsmax.com Wires
Monday, Dec. 24, 2001
LONDON -- Uranium and cyanide have reportedly been discovered in drums at an al-Qaeda terrorist base near Kandahar in southern Afghanistan.
The discovery -- the first evidence that suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden had obtained materials for a nuclear arsenal -- was confirmed by U.S. officials, the London Telegraph said.


WELL WELL WE SAW IN ubl[Yellow coward who runs away] TALKED ABOUT HELPING IRAQ IN 1998 RECALL IS SUCH A WONDERFUL THING??

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/1/13/70852.shtml
Thursday, Jan. 13, 2005 7:06 a.m. EST
No WMDs? Tons of Uranium, Sarin Gas, Buried MiGs


READ THE WHOLE THING!!

"We've found 10 or 12 Sarin and Mustard rounds," Iraq Survey Group chief Charles Duelfer told Fox News, after his team uncovered the WMD cache last June.
"We're finding things and we're getting reports of hidden caches almost every day which we have to investigate," Duelfer added.


TURNS OUT TO BE OVER 500 CEM BOMBS?

And if the White House wants some dramatic imagery to show how easy it was for Saddam to hide banned weapons, how about those photos of the 30 Iraqi jet fighters that weapons searchers found buried in the sand near Baghdad.

READ THE WHOLE THING

And hind sight is not even real what you are talk-en about the UN still want even say what terrorism is still can't say Sudan is killing all them people what do you call it when you kill over 1 million people because they talk different well the UN+LON+AL can't figure it out OH YEA THEY ARE KILLING BLACK MULSUMS IN SUDAN BECAUSE THEY DON'T SPEAK ARABIC!!


So hind sight is a good thing if you get it right??


Part of the American Tribe
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Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THESE MONSTERS AMEN

And what happens, if, when America leaves Iraq, Iran then moves in and invades Iraq, making it part of a then greater Iran?

Storage manger can you provide a link to the WMD story.

km its a fox news story waiting for them to load webpage...not yet.

Im sick of this shit. lets just round these fuckers up and send them packing. They burn our churches in their nations, lets not let them build anymore mosques or preach their hate speach to our youth. Fuck em!

Voltaire: All of Islam is essentially a single country called the UMMAH. This also pertains to Muslims residing within a supposedly non-Muslim country.

Muslims pledge allegiance only to Allah. The Kuran is the Muslims' national and political constitution. The local mosque is the ummah's governing and adminstration center and it may double as an armory at times also.

Thus there is little real difference between Iran and Iraq as far as most Muslims are concerned. The only thing relating to nationalities (as we know them) that members of the Ummah are likely to be concerned about is the degree to which the letter of Kuranic law is upheld. That's it.

Thanks storagemanager

Be sure to post it as soon as you can.

Catherine: I am in agreement with you on Iraq! (Although I missed the article(s) reporting on the amount of weapons found (?) in Iraq you have cited). I did know however that those enormous underground bunkers Saddam Hussein was building in the Iraqi desert were designed to store WMD.

Possibly I misread your earlier post. If so, I goofed!! (It happens...).

Your strong spirit is reassuring BTW. You seldom disappoint in our fight against Islamic ideology and I am always glad to see your posts.

"This fall will NOT be the time to vote in the cut-and-run Dhimmicrats."

-Posted Above

Spare us the ridiculous partisanship. Both parties have a lot to learn. Both are horribly flawed with respect to forign policy. When you talk about cut-and-run Dhimmicrats, I suppose you are referring to Iraq. You mean the war that is preventing us from taking action against Iran? Are you also referring to Hugh's position (cut and run)?

Voltaire said: "And what happens, if, when America leaves Iraq, Iran then moves in and invades Iraq, making it part of a then greater Iran?"

Well, for one, Islam will have one less vote in the U.N.

Stendec: It will be far easier to destroy Iran's capacity to deploy these weapons of mass destruction than to destroy the weapons themselves---providing that you can even FIND them! They're easier to hide than you think and Iran has 600,000 square miles of territory to search and bomb. How do we destroy Iran's capability to deploy WMDs-----see below.

I wrote earlier the western democracies SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DEPLOY and DETONATE EMP weapons over the airspace of the threatening Islamic nations starting with Iran (and possibly North Korea, too, as it is in bed with Iran's mullahs). I maintain that this is the proper procedure for handling rogue countries brandishing ICBMs and the like.

If you are unaware of what Electro Magnetic Pulse weapons are PLEASE LOOK IT UP ASAP. I haven't time to explain this to you.

Detonating EMP weapons over Iran et al will take out this country's electronic infrastructure and render it incapable of launching missiles, etc. Doing this will not cause immediate loss of life on a large scale and will save the world much death and destruction!

Stendec

LOL

Kafir Nonbeliever is right...this fight is good and evil..right or wrong...not red or blue...we fight as Americans or we go down as 1/2 a country.

Pythagoras,

I understand EMP weapons, and think you have an excellent idea for the opening attack. But there needs to be a serious follow-through.

Be sure to post it as soon as you can.

Posted by: km at June 21, 2006 06:33 PM

Rick Santourm R Pa

And Peter Hustrucka have some declassified papers and gave a press confrence wich Fox cut off to go to another reporter instead of letting the people listen to the consfrence?

SHAME SHAME SHAME ON THEM!!

GO to WND they had a report the other day which Santourm refenced it but couldn't say because some things are still classified??

Maybe Rick has it on his sight too!!

Maybe this is the real reason that the Spanish ran like sissys??

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Spider Killer
GOD BLESS THE USA AND HER FIGHTING FORCES AND ALL WHO FIGHT WITH HER GIVE THEM STRENGTH, WISDOM, SIGHT, AND COURAGE TO DESTROY ALL ISLAMIC TERRORIST AND ALL WHO SUPPORT THEM AMEN

ps
some surf-en over at fox seams that they have some people look-en at those papers recovered from Iraq and found connect to terrorist SUPRIZE SUPRIZE??

Rick is on the floor now on cspan2

storagemanager-

I just heard the same news -about WMD's being finally found- from Curt Weldon (R-PA) on the radio. He said that WMD's were found by our troops, this April, hidden in Iraq.

500 nerve gas warheads.

And Weldon also mentioned other reports, on 4 further sites, still being declassified.

The full details of this breakthrough finding should be released this week, according to the Congressman.

Let's hope the al-Qaeda maniacs haven't gotten hold of any, since these types of caches, along with standard ordnance, are likely to be buried throughout Iraq.

It will make Saddma's execution, later this year, that much more fitting.

Damn. "Saddam".

HERE YOU GO..................CNSNews.com) - Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) and Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) announced Wednesday the finding of over 500 munitions or weapons of mass destruction, specifically "sarin- and mustard-filled projectiles," in Iraq.

Reading from unclassified portions of a document developed by the U.S. intelligence community, Santorum said, "Since 2003, coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent. Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq's pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist."
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200606/NAT20060621e.html

munitions shells in Iraqposted at 5:45 pm on June 21, 2006 by Allahpundit
Send to a Friend | printer-friendly He’s reading from a document about it right now with Pete Hoekstra by his side. The shells allegedly contained degraded mustard or sarin gas. He says they believe there are other shells inside the country that haven’t been found yet.
WMD is WMD, but finding a shell here and there when Iran’s about to get the bomb next door leaves me somewhat … underwhelmed.
Update: Actually, is that true? “WMD is WMD”? The knock on Ron Suskind’s “mubtakkar of death” is that, as scary as it sounds, it wouldn’t kill any more people inside a subway car than a conventional bomb would. Or a small-arms attack, possibly. Are chemical shells any scarier than, say, grenades? They have a lot more political value,
http://hotair.com/archives/the-blog/2006/06/21/santorum-military-has-found-500-chemical-munitions-shells-in-iraq/

Just a little help for Rick?

We know that it is true and how you ask??

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/5/5/205301.shtml
U.N. Wants to Inspect Looted Iraq Nuke Sites
NewsMax Wires
Tuesday, May 6, 2003
UNITED NATIONS -- The International Atomic Energy Agency has found reports of looting at Iraq's nuclear facilities "disturbing" and repeated its request Washington allow it to inspect them, a U.N. spokesman said Monday.
"IAEA said over the weekend that it found reports that there had been looting at Iraq's nuclear facilities disturbing and it has requested that the United States confirm the situation and allow for an IAEA team to investigate," said the spokesman, Fred Eckhard.


YEP ANOTHER SNOW CONE??

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/2/16/90042.shtml?s=lh&s=lh
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Tapes: Saddam Hussein Had Secret Uranium Enrichment Program
Kenneth R. Timmerman
Thursday, Feb. 16, 2006
In the year 2000, two years after Iraq expelled U.N. arms inspectors, two Iraqi scientists paid a discreet visit to Saddam Hussein in his presidential palace.
They had come to brief the Iraqi dictator on their progress in enriching uranium using plasma separation. If successful, their efforts could have given Saddam the fissile material he was seeking to make a bomb.


YEP ANOTHER SNOW CONE MAKER??

Polish Army in Iraq 'Mortified' That 'Terrorists Were Looking for These Warheads'
NewsMax.com Wires
Friday, July 2, 2004
WARSAW, Poland – Terrorists may have been close to obtaining munitions containing the deadly nerve agent cyclosarin that Polish soldiers recovered last month in Iraq, the head of Poland's military intelligence said Friday.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4267133,00.html?=ticker
Polish Troops Find Sarin Warheads in Iraq

Thursday July 1, 2004 10:01 PM
WARSAW, Poland (AP) - Polish troops have found two warheads in Iraq believed to contain a deadly nerve agent, but it is not clear what period the weapons came from, the Defense Ministry said Thursday.


Iraqi Nerve Gas, WMD Find Blows Away Pundits
Charles R. Smith
Monday, May 17, 2004
The discovery of an Iraqi artillery shell armed with nerve gas has the liberal community and mass media in a panic.
The 155mm nerve gas shell was rigged to kill U.S. troops but it failed. U.S. Brig. General Mark Kimmitt confirmed the discovery during a news conference in Baghdad.
Yet, the discovery of nerve gas was followed by a second revelation. A second shell, equipped with mustard gas was found two weeks ago.


UN experts find evidence of WMD
By Edith M Lederer
10jun04

UN weapons experts have found 20 engines used in Iraq's banned Al Samoud 2 missiles in a Jordanian scrap yard, along with other equipment that could be used to produce weapons of mass destruction.

yes denile what the lib's think is a river in egypt??

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Saudi Billionaire Prince's Hate TV
Prince Al-Waleed, Avid Supporter of Peace” was the headline of a June article in the Middle East Times International that reported on his generosity, powerful supporters, and investments in America. The article noted the prince’s $100,000 donation to New York’s Institute for Middle East Peace and Development and a visit to the prince’s Riyadh office by dignitaries including the recently appointed treasury secretary, Henry Paulson.

Given the millions the prince has spent on public relations, Al-Resalah’s excessive anti-Western content is somewhat astonishing. It is no different from any other hate-filled Saudi TV channel. Take, for example, Sheik Ahmad Al-Kubeisi, who appeared on Al-Resalah on March 15 and said: “When there is no hope for peace, there is no alternative but to resort to the gun. ... The West’s conflict with Islam and the Muslims is eternal, a preordained destiny that cannot be avoided until judgment day.”

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21160#comments

The West have no chance but to deal with Islam, and we are extending our hands in peace and dialogue - you have slapped it. We do not accept insults.”
Seems to be the same thing Mahmoud said. Islam is the Enemy and must be named the Enemy.Take on Islam the same way we did Nazi Germany..Because Islam will use a nuke dont kid yourself.

It really doesn't matter what they build or use, it will end this. They could use WMD on 25 of our cities and any one of our subs could respond by taking out every islamic capital city. They wouldn't need any orders, DC would be gone, the Captian and crew would launch, I would, wouldn't you? I don't know how many we have but It would only take one.

The West’s conflict with Islam and the Muslims is eternal, a preordained destiny that cannot be avoided until judgment day.”
Muslims only answer to Allah thru the Koran. The Koran came from Mohammad. They do what Islam demands at all times. Islam knows no borders or states. There are Muslim Lands and soon to be Muslim Lands. They can not be good Americans or good Germans, they are Muslim!...They are Human, we are kafir (unclean animals, beast to be used) Understand Islam it is not Peace. It is not Noble. It is War!


The world should be tired of iran's and n. korea's threats.

A braveheart needs to step forward and tell both to give up all of their weapons or face extermination or one city per day will be destroyed starting tomorrow with the capital or each nation, then do it.

Will not take many cities to disappear to end this fight.

OT

For everyones viewing pleasure, some koranimals in action.


http://www.glen-jenvey.com/new/018.wmv

I believe this was a Muslim council of Britain meeting, it is a fine example of how Islamification is sweeping the UK.

Note the pathetic response by the police.

Voltaire writes: "The threat was not from Iraq, but from Iran."

Perhaps you have forgotten about the SCUD missiles that slammed Tel Aviv during the Gulf War? Or Saddam's rewards to the families of Palestinian suicide-bombers?

This is why I cannot make these fine distinctions between the "real" Islamic threat and the "fake" Islamic threat. Your other point, that Iran and Iraq could have been played off against each other, is a respectable position worth discussing (even though I'm not sold on that one either). But when it comes to fighting Islamist radicalism, we're fighting the whole lot of them.

Palestinians, this includes you too. I haven't forgotten how you celebrated the 9-11 attacks, not just once but day after day. And never formally apologized.

Not many are willing to even consider a most powerful weapon yet but why not ponder the deicide of allah?

Diminish the god and intent will follow. It makes rather clear sense in the face of this ideological war.

Research the validity of the existence of "allah". Proclaim "allah" false as it clearly is and defeat this ideology from the top down. Never has this deity interacted with humankind...not once. Maybe within the maddeningly wishful imagination of fundamentalists but still allah is not reality and never was. Faith is not proof and it is proof we sorely need to end this conflict. I'm not willing to allow a nuclear genocide just to prove how right I am. After the nuclear clouds turn life to dust - no god is going to show up suddenly and make things right again. That is utter bullshit!

Clearly allah failed and this cultural lie has the potential to destroy humankinds existence and it's future. Sorry but as far as I'm concerned - it's time humiliate this god and it's "prophet" back into oblivion.

"allah" is clearly an anthropomorphic myth - call it as you see it PLEASE!!! Don't chocolate cover this ancient prank! This deity is just another hand-me-down deity lifted from other Arabic god myths. It must be called as such and reverence toward this dogmatic philosophy must diminish, corrode and collapse.

I'm not saying that we single out Muslims and persecute them - we're better than that. We must simply deny their philosophy of life and respect for their religious demands. Muslims are no more special than any other human being regardless of what they believe.

No more religious accommodations of any kind. Sorry but taking "allah" on faith has caused these wars. Enough is enough, no more faith until proof. Muslims must show physical proof i.e. allah makes a real appearance before they are bestowed such respect. Until such time, allah bears zero authority. Period.

Why oh why does anyone even take note when Muslims are infuriated when their "prophet" is insulted. Who cares? The man is extinct and he certainly isn't going to shake your hand if you visit his grave. He's gone, nevermore, undone. His lie must follow.

From this perspective, when a Muslim murders for "allah", that Muslim murders for a pathological lie that is beyond false. This is animalistic evil.

Challenge Islamic scholars to fight for their god since their god appears to be quite absent or unwilling to defend itself. Parody this puff of "holy" smoke and laugh to insult Arab male mentality into humiliation. Show them how their imaginary god is a complete failure. Defeat them with rational logic in public forums and shame them into duly earned silence. Poison the well of Islam in the modern world so that the lie of Mohammad will find no future. If we do not, not only can our heads end up sitting on our backs, the minds of the future will be destroyed by systematic Islamic control.

This primitive mentality has to end and so does this fictitious "god". To close, I will proclaim my infidel creed:

There is no god such as "allah" and Muhammad is the messenger of an ancient lie.

pythagoras writes: "I wrote earlier the western democracies SHOULD ABSOLUTELY DEPLOY and DETONATE EMP weapons over the airspace of the threatening Islamic nations starting with Iran (and possibly North Korea, too, as it is in bed with Iran's mullahs). I maintain that this is the proper procedure for handling rogue countries brandishing ICBMs and the like."

If you are referring to those "electromagnetic bombs" the U.S. experimented with during the Iraq War, then let me remind you that those work only over a very limited area (like zapping part of an electrical power grid), and are best suited to tactical rather than strategic purposes. Also, we can safely assume that Iranian military nuclear facilities are "hardened" against EMP, just as ours are, and just as the Russian military nuclear facilities are. An EMP attack might fry all the TV sets in Iranian homes and knock out their commercial electric power, but against hardened underground nuclear facilities with their own electrical power generators, the results are liable to be insignificant.

A high-altitude nuclear detonation (say 200 miles altitude) can do a lot more EMP damage over a lot wider area. But the U.S. dares not be the first nation to launch a pre-emptive nuclear attack of any kind. The U.S. would lose the moral high ground forever. Even the Soviet Union never did this.

The U.S. has never claimed that electromagnetic pulses are a substitute for strategic bombing of an enemy's nuclear launch facilities. Because they aren't.

Posted by: km at June 21, 2006 07:46 PM

SO WHAT IS NEW THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST FLIM THEIR TERRORISM??

Now we should have seen some patty wagons loading up these islamic terrorist!!

WELL I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THEY HAD DONE THIS WITH NYC COPS WONDER IF THEIR FILM WOULD HAVE MADE IT THROUGH THE SCULFFLE

Notice how the islamic terrorist covered the cramra when his bud pushed the police waiting for the reply. I'd say these cops did pretty good not giving these islamic terrorist what they


ALL THE MORE REASON THAT THE USA WILL KEEP HER GUNS THANK YOU!!

You see we believe a gun in hand is better than 2 cops on the phone but we do help our police if they need us!!!

I am also thinking of a very old movie

"walking Tall"

I think that was the name of it anyway!!

ONE thing I saw is that the Bobby's did not cowar but moved forward with great restrainght now these islamic terrorist have misjudged them as do most bullies misjudge and in the end will fall!!

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PS
Just wonder if the police of the USA would have so much restraint somehow I don't think so?

At least there would not be a flim of these islamic as-holes on the net for sure hell even the movie stars take out as-holes with camras!!

Gary writes: "This fall will NOT be the time to vote in the cut-and-run Dhimmicrats."

While it's probably off-topic for JW, we should watch the bellwether Senate election shaping up in Connecticut: Joe Lieberman, the incumbent moderate Democratic senator in Connecticut who has his act together when it comes to fighting terrorism, is facing a primary challenge from a peacenik insurgent, Ned Lamont.

Lamont and his hard-core Leftist supporters are actually trying to drive Lieberman out of the Democratic Party. (They want other moderates like Joe Biden out too.) If Lamont succeeds, and becomes the new Democratic Party nominee for Senator in Connecticut, we can take that as a signal that the Democratic party rank-and-file are pushing the Democratic Party into becoming a total peacenik party, like they did in 1970-72. I don't see how the Democrats will then be able to claim that they are committed to keeping America safe from terrorism, when they are excommunicating any Democrat who isn't a peacenik.

Posted by: Steven L. at June 21, 2006 08:29 PM

Yea McGovern was hell on the dimmicrats?

Maybe this is why Zell wrote his book a "Democrat Party no more"?

Sad!

I know many Democrats who hate what their party is becoming and can't bring themselves to go to the polls anymore??

And people are pissed that NYC keeps crying about money expeslialy when they [NYC] is spending 300,000 million on a new opra house??

So us rednecks think they just aren't making any sence!!

UFC rocks Oriely

and Parkense dease was cause to Cashes Clay because he converted to be a mulsum!!!

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PS
Will not take many cities to disappear to end this fight.

Posted by: Texican at June 21, 2006 07:35 PM


Gold Star for you today!!

Catherine I agree that the scenes recorded in that video would for the moment have difficulty taking place here in the US.

Imagine if they tried that in Phili.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOVE


I do however think the clock is ticking and we will see similar affairs in the near future here in the US especially as the Muslim presence increases and their number become more vocal and militant.

In ref to the EMP discussion. I believe Steven L is right; the use of a preemptive nuclear attack would loose the West its Moral highground.

The most effective solution is from conventional weaponary. We should do it now whilst we have a significant troop presence in the area.

In ref to the EMP discussion. I believe Steven L is right; the use of a preemptive nuclear attack would loose the West its Moral highground.
Posted by: km at June 21, 2006 09:10 PM
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If the choice is tens of millions of innocent Ameircans killed by nukes from the mos or n. korea or preemptive nuclear attack.

So America would loose its moral highground from whom if American preemtive attacked???

Moral highground or a free America and tens of millions of Americans not dead???

Which do you choose???


What is this mo thing about the 72 virgins when one mature American woman will shame all 72.

Texican, we would not need nukes or emp. If I were king for a day we would takeout the pipelines and shipping ports, totally destroy their ability to pump or move oil. It takes away the US just wants your oil argument and leaves them with a choice, surrender and eat or slowly starve. Reality is we are the only nation who could rebuild their infrastructure. It’s not like they could do anything about it, we would trash their sorry navy and airforces in an afternoon. They can keep all the outdated army equipment. The other advantage is the implied threat to any other oil producer who might try and raise prices, we could put them out of business too. We have always considered ourselves as the good guys and self limited our responses, what happens when we break bad? We could use the old shock and awe on a few select targets just to rub it in.

It is a tough question Texican, I am not ruling out the use of Nuclear weapons, I am merely advocating a conventional approach first.

I am sure as well that if we got even a whiff of them using a non conventional weapon we would rain down vengence on them and it would be nuclear.

AMartinez, If I were Chinese I'd be scared too :-). My point still stands we could take away everything of value and not touch the poor little muslims (except the unlucky ones at the ports and pipelines) They only have one item of real value, take it, destroy it and take names of others who wish us harm. They hate us now and we give more than anyone, time to give them something to hate us for.

It is a tough question Texican, I am not ruling out the use of Nuclear weapons, I am merely advocating a conventional approach first.
Posted by: km at June 21, 2006 09:53 PM
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and hitler caputered all of europe and a large chunk of north africa before he was stopped. (England considered to not be part of Europe.)

Bomb their ports and destory their oil producing capacity and then shoot down all of the bleeding heart planes and bomb the bleeding heart truck convoys sending in relief help to the poor mos.

The stench of burnt bodies, destroyed and burining cities and radiocative ash across America, Europe and Russia will probably occuur before any meaningful action will be taken.

If osama is captured or killed, watch carefully especailly if a large number of mos return to their home countries for relegious observations or move to the country. If you local mo owned conrener store is suddenly closed, be aware for it may soon hit the fan. Do not depend on the feds to give a warning.............

Are you prepared, armed or ready for the war with the cult of islam is inevitable.

The Texican.
Freedom, the only choice at any cost and the cost will be immense.

AM, Two things are needed, a massive smack down, both on their ability to make threats and the support mechanisms. Kicking their collective butts is the easy part. Discrediting their evil book is impossible, you can’t fight faith. What we can do is hold them accountable. Go back to the with us or against us model (use it this time) any US aid is in direct proportion to the way you act towards us and toward your own citizens. You catch a terrorists, arrest him and his imam, changes are good he didn’t recruit himself. They refuse, blow up the mosque. Until we can build churches in their country they build none in ours. Strict controls on who gets in, and watch them. If the feel bad give um a hanky or send them home to cry. Homegrown muslim causes trouble, pull their citizenship and deport them. No one will take them, looks like it’s the north pole buddy.

As much as kill them all sounds good it is impractical and unnecessary. I never believed they have anywhere close to 1.2 billion but lets use that number. ½ would be male, ½ again to old to be a threat. ½ again children. ½ wouldn’t fall into the radical trap, not because they don’t believe it just because at least that many will be cowards. The numbers would keep dropping when you figure in travel expenses training etc. Even if all available wanted to fight it is impossible. By controlling (with force) their ability to train, teach, recruit, radicalize, immigrate we could control this mess. I don’t think genocide is needed, we would need a real psyop plan, discredit and shame them, “if allah is real why did you get stomped”? “He doesn’t care about you, he loves us, and wants us to smack you”. It’s all true anyway, allah told me over few beers (he also begged me to stop blogging, seems he is powerless to stop me). They are a prideful bunch and have no reason to be. Call them and their leaders out.

Sounds rough but it is going to make it hard to keep a supply of idiots to join up. If they want to live in the 7th century group them up and let them. You know what will happen they will jihad each other, we wouldn’t even have time to say, stop, don’t before they would kill each other. They are far better at killing muslims than we ever have been.


* Iran's political leadership is now aiming toward global power projection in the name of Islam, demanding recognition that Islam comprises 25 percent of humanity and should occupy its rightful place in decision-making in world affairs.*

Well, mates, it isn't 25%, it's more like 20%. And of that 20%, 62% cannot read or write. I don't think I want this particular population making decisions that affect the way the world operates.

the barbarity of the mos is shown every day in iraq and across islamic countries with the bombings and murdering of their fellow believers and untold numbers of innocent infidels.

I may not agree with many of the Christian sects at times, but never did desire to murder a bunch of them for thier beliefs and our disagreements.

There is an immense gulf of difference between Christainity - Judaism -- the peaceful religions and the murdering cult of islam.

3 COPS BEHEADED IN MEXICO?

IS WALDO HERE?
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/6/21/85854.shtml?s=lh
Ambassador Bolton Says No Direct N. Korea Talks
NewsMax.com Wires
Wednesday, June 21, 2006
UNITED NATIONS -- U.S. Ambassador John Bolton on Wednesday rejected an offer from a North Korean diplomat for direct talks with Pyongyang on a potential missile test, saying the threat of a launch wasn't the way to seek dialogue.
"You don't normally engage in conversations by threatening to launch intercontinental ballistic missiles," Bolton said, "and it's not a way to produce a conversation because if you acquiesce in aberrant behavior you simply encourage the repetition of it, which we're obviously not going to do."


I WONDER IF CHINA WILL PULL BACK THEIR BOY TOY??

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/6/21/85758.shtml
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Chinese Companies Sell WMD to Iran
Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Several government-owned Chinese companies are "proliferators of weapons of mass destruction" (WMD) according to the Bush administration, and the administration has taken legal actions against these companies. They are accused of selling advanced missile and WMD technology to Iran.
The Department of the Treasury has frozen the assets of the three top Chinese military firms.


MIGHT WANT TO READ THIS ONE TOO??

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/5/19/183817.shtml
Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Spies, Lies and Atomic Bombs
Charles R. Smith
Saturday, May 20, 2006
China Strikes Again
The boys at the People's Liberation Army (PLA) headquarters do have a weird sense of humor.
For example, Chinese government spokesman, Liu Jianchao is now making a sincere effort to take away the "liar of the century" award from Baghdad Bob. Bob, aka former Iraqi Information Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf, made headlines during the 2003 invasion of Iraq by declaring victory against U.S. forces even as Army M-1 tanks were rolling into Baghdad behind him on live TV.
In a clear bid to topple al-Sahaf from his title, the Chinese government official spokesman recently declared that China has no spies inside the United States.


OH BUT IT GETS BETTER READ THE WHOLE THING??

Here's a recent example: A Taiwanese man pleaded guilty on Wednesday to plotting to ship to China advanced U.S. weapons, including an F-16 fighter engine and nuclear-capable cruise missiles.
Ko-Suen Moo, 58, an employee of Lockheed pleaded guilty in federal court in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida to being a covert agent for China.
Another example from 2005, Ning Wen, his wife, Hailin Lin, 55, and two Chinese nationals were charged and convicted of conspiracy to export restricted electronics and money laundering. The two Chinese citizens, Jian Guo Qu and Ruo Ling Wang, were arrested as they got off a Greyhound bus in Milwaukee to meet with Wen.


BUT IT GETS BETTER READ THE WHOLE THING?

The only way the western democracies will be able to avert a nuclear confrontation with Iran and the other Islamic countries is to destroy their capacity to launch their weapons of mass destruction (ICBMS etc) and that is to deploy and detonate Electro Magnetic Pulse weapons over their airspace.

EMPs might also be an effective weapon against overtly hostile Communist countries like Venezuela and North Korea.

What this would do is destroy these countries' electronic infrastructure which would be used to launch their missiles and other weapons of mass destruction. It would also spare these countries massive casualties and it would save us from having to invade these countries with ground forces and from conducting ungodly and massive searches across huge expanses of terrain for WMDs--Iran alone is larger than Alaska could you imagine having to locate WMDs just there?

I don't know why Washington is waffling over this.

EMPs might also be an effective weapon against overtly hostile Communist countries like Venezuela and North Korea.
I don't know why Washington is waffling over this.
Posted by: pythagoras at June 21, 2006 11:16 PM
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Could it be PC sickness that has taken over Washington DC???

Quantum Infidel:

Islam originated out of Babylonian and Mesopotamian myths. The Arabian peninsula was once a territorial possession of Babylon's and there are clear references to Mesopotamia and Babylon in Islam (notably the Ramadan or celebration of the harvest moon al-lah is the moon-god of Mesopotamian origin).

Arabs lack the dynamism to come up with ANYTHING new. And thanks to the Kuran they have never had to.

"the use of a preemptive nuclear attack would loose the West its Moral highground."

The USA doesn't enjoy a moral high ground currently: we exist in a deformed Alice-in-Wonderland world that considers America to be at least as bad, if not worse, than the terrorists. Deeper than that the general global pathology runs: they consider America to be a megalomaniac superpower bent on crypto-imperialism that will ruin the world. When we make the slightest mistake, or apparent mistake, such as Abu Ghraib or when one of our soldiers happens to shoot an unarmed slumping Muslim who could easily have his finger on the trigger of a bomb, the world renews its hysterical condemnation of America.

There is no moral high ground in this insane, topsy-turvy world. Nevertheless, we do occupy the moral high ground -- but we (or at least 50% of us) are the only ones who properly appreciate it. Therefore, I say, full speed ahead and stop worrying about what the lunatics in the world might think of us.

What is this mo thing about the 72 virgins when one mature American woman will shame all 72.

Posted by: Texican at June 21, 2006 09:40 PM
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All right all of you red bloodied American males out there, no comments?????????

All right all of you red bloodied American males out there, no comments?????????


Posted by: Texican at June 22, 2006 12:44 AM


Thats because we all know that all 72 are clones of helen thomas

I wish I still had that link but the last time I cked it was down and Johnny Cash and every thing what is this world coming to??

I just heard that #2 has a new tape boy they are pulling out all the stops blowen up an old folks home in Iraq what a bunch of savages killing those old women

Where is the mulsum outrae I CAN'T HEAR YOU??

You would tink at least helen would be a little upset about that one??

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200378,00.html
Flood Waters Leave 178 Dead in Indonesia
Wednesday, June 21, 2006

JAKARTA, Indonesia — Villagers and rescue teams Thursday searched for survivors on an Indonesian island hit by floods and landslides, as the number of killed climbed to 178, officials said.
More than 135 other people were missing in southern districts of Sulawesi Island, with many feared to have been swept out to sea. At least two roads were still blocked by landslides and flood waters reached almost 2-meters high in one district, said rescue official Abdul Malik.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200513,00.html
Al Qaeda's Second-in-Command Urges Afghans to Resist U.S. Coalition in New Video
Thursday , June 22, 2006

CAIRO, Egypt — Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader has issued a new videotape calling on Afghans to rise up against U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan in the wake of rioting last month in Kabul.

FUNNY THAT EGYPT KEEPS COMING UP WITH THESE NEW VIDEOS??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200512,00.html
Red Cross Admits Israel, Palestinians
Wednesday, June 21, 2006

GENEVA — The Red Cross admitted Israel to the worldwide humanitarian organization early Thursday, ending decades of exclusion linked to the Jewish state's refusal to accept the traditional cross symbol.
The approval came in the early hours Thursday following a two-day International Conference of the Red Cross and Red Crescent.
With a round of applause the Red Cross federation admitted Israel's Magen David Adom society simultaneously with the Palestine Red Crescent. An optional new emblem was adopted so that Israel could retain its red star of David instead of having to adopt the red cross or crescent used by the 184 other societies in the global movement.
"This has been going on for 58 long years. It's time. It's overdue," said Bonnie McElveen Hunter, chairman of the American Red Cross, which had been campaigning for years for the Israeli society's admission.
Israeli Ambassador Itzhak Levanon said the International Conference of the Red Cross and Red Crescent had earlier rejected a Muslim amendment that would have challenged Israel's occupation of Arab territory since the 1967 Arab-Israeli War. The vote was 72 votes for the amendment and 191 against, he said.

BETTER READ THE WHOLE THING!

On the topic of WMD discoveries in Iraq finally coming to light, it's amazing that the Libs are now saying that these are pre-91 WMD's, and not the ones we're looking for. In other words, we've tagged the WMD's that we are looking for? So by that logic, if Iran ends up with a nuke from somewhere or sometime that was not covered by the current processing, say a smuggled nuke from Kazakhstan or Pakistan, it would be okay with the Alan Colmes' of the world?

Why can't the Libs just figure out the right reasons to oppose Bush? Not just that, but they can't even tolerate the few who do get it (albeit to a point) - like Lieberman.

Infidel Pride-

When is a WMD not a WMD?

When it serves the interest of a political group.

I guess "old" nerve/mustard gas doesn't kill you?

(Except that WW II era poison gas shells dumped off the New Jersey coast in the late 1940's are still off limits for present day fishermen as "potentially deadly if brought up in nets by accident".)

This should be entertaining.

The tap-dance of the "It doesn't fit the plan!" crowd.

pythagoras,
The muslim month of ramadan is pronounced "ramazan". I wonder how there is such a difference in English and actual arabic.

Guys & girls,

Il explain plan & simple Islam:

Islam means submission to allah & theres no other more powerful than allah.

allah chosen mohammad to be the last prophet & people follow him will go to heaven. other religions & prophets writings have been faked, thus making mohammad the legitamate phrophet.

islam says infedels are not worth & its the duty of muslism to rule the earth. the infedels who dont want to convert could die or pay heavy taxes.

islam will not pay for any other religious functions & if you do, it must be in closed doors. no temples or churches must be built.

sharia's law primarily focuses on muslims over infedels, muslims could kill an infedel & pay a light fine as the victim is killed by god.

jihad means world conquest by any means, dont except other explainations.

all things created are from allah, therefore muslims are commended to use it. also means that property belonging to a infedel is a property of a muslim. a muslim can steal your belongings. a muslim could not use the stolen money for food but anything else is ok.

islam dominance is allah -> prophet -> clerics/imam -> muslim men -> muslim ladies -> dogs/pigs & other animals -> infedels.

islam expects no cultural & historical heritage thats not islamic origin. anything before the 1st islamic commandment must be wiped off the earth.

muslims are encourage to lie to infedels because infedels make no sense & lying to people who make no sense is a commandment. therefore any treaty or agreement is nonstanding.

islam must make way to infedels country by political & marriage and when the numbers are up, force the infedels to their knees & rule the country.

islam goal is world conquest, there is no other religion permitted with islam.

anyone that opposes islam must die. any muslims has the right to kill those who oppose.

if in an event theres a disagreement with sharia law or from the quran, both parties must accept judgement or intepretation from a muslim scholar apointed by the mosque. Includes muslim & infedels.


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Bottom line, If you see star wars, Islam is the Sith & muhammad the dark lord, iran's pm is vader!

Storemanager you are right when you say:

But I will not STOP. Islam is evil to the core and like a weed must be pulled from the root.

I agree. Want a reality check for these peaceful American loving (parasites) muslims living in a free land....just ask them if they agree that the demise of al-Zarqawi is a good thing. They will not give a straight answer, instead they cast their eyes to the ground for they do not want to soil the image of such a stellar muslim murderer!

I love to see them squirm!

The North Korean? No Dong?
I always knew he was a girli man.







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“Robert Spencer incarnates intellectual courage when, all over the world, governments, intellectuals, churches, universities and media crawl under a hegemonic Universal Caliphate’s New Order. His achievement in the battle for the survival of free speech and dignity of man will remain as a fundamental monument to the love of, and the self-sacrifice for, liberty.”
Bat Ye’or

“Robert Spencer is indefatigable. He is keeping up the good fight long after many have already given up. I do not know what we would do without him. I appreciate all the intelligence and courage it takes to keep going despite the appeasement of the West.”
Ibn Warraq

“America's most informed, fearless, and compelling voice on modern jihadism.”
Andrew C. McCarthy, Senior Fellow at National Review Institute

“Robert Spencer is the leading voice of scholarship and reason in a world gone mad. If the West is to be saved, we will owe Robert Spencer an incalculable debt.”
Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs

"The consummate Islam critic and expert." — Bruce Bawer

“Over the years, we have become friends, and I have received his assistance on several pieces of legislation I proposed.”
Former Congressman Tom Tancredo

“Few people are capable of applying scholarship, analytical reasoning, and objectivity to their topic -- while simultaneously being readable and witty -- as can Robert Spencer.”
Raymond Ibrahim

“A national treasure...The acclaimed scholar of Islam.”
Frank Gaffney, Center for Security Policy

“I am indeed honored to call him my friend.”
Brad Thor, novelist

“A top American analyst of Islam....A serious scholar...I learn from him.”
Daniel Pipes

“A brilliant scholar and writer.”
Douglas Murray

"One of my best teachers."
Ashraf Ramelah, Voice of the Copts

“Thank God there’s at least one man with balls left in the West.”
Kathy Shaidle, Five Feet of Fury

“I read people like [Mark Steyn] and Bob Spencer and the rest of them, and I say, ‘Boortz, you’re pretending you’re an author. These people really are. They really write some entertaining, some standup stuff.’”
Neal Boortz

“Robert Spencer is the Stephen King of Jihad.”
Chris Gaubatz, Muslim Mafia

“Armed with facts and fearlessness, Spencer stands up for Western civilization.”
Michelle Malkin

“Widely read in conservative foreign policy circles.”
New York Times

“Widely read in many quarters in Washington.”
Washington Post

“A canny operative who likely has the inside track on the State Department’s Middle East affairs desk should the tea party win the White House.”
New York Magazine

“A hero of the American right.”
Karen Armstrong

"The leading anti-Islamic intellectual in the United States....The go-to Islam expert for the right wing."
Salon Magazine

“Robert Spencer is an Edward Said turned upside down.”
Stephen Suleyman Schwartz

“One of the nation's most notorious Islamophobes.”
Hamas-linked CAIR

"Geller and Spencer are probably the most important propagandizing Islamophobes in the world. These people's voices speak very loudly — not just here in the United States but overseas."
Heidi Beirach, Southern Poverty Law Center

“Satanic ignoramus.”
Khaleel Mohammed

“The Likud anti-Christ.”
Dar al-Hayat newspaper (Saudi Arabia)

“Zionist Crusader, missionary of hate, counter-Islam consultant.”
Al-Qaeda’s Adam Gadahn, “Azzam the American”



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