More willful ignorance and denial from the media: "The ties that bind 17 suspects?," from the Toronto Star, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:
In investigators' offices, an intricate graph plotting the links between the 17 men and teens charged with being members of a homegrown terrorist cell covers at least one wall. And still, says a source, it is difficult to find a common denominator.
Let's see. All Muslims. All devout members of a religion that contains traditions teaching violence against unbelievers. Of course, that couldn't be relevant.
AND the fact that the bigger denominator in the equation is the fact that muslims are killing non-muslims all over the globe. And the history of islam as well. And the history of all the islamic nations that have been created from 662 A.D. till date, are built on the genocides of non-muslims. And the current fact of a muslim leader calling for the destruction of a sole non-muslim nation surrounded by muslim countries. And the centralized funding of mosques, the armouries of jihadists. HOW many dots do they need to see the BIG picture ?
Ah, Canadian multiculturalism and PC'ness in all its splendour and glory!
Robert,
“And still, says a source, it is difficult to find a common denominator.”
Unbelievable!!! I gave up believing what I read in the “Drive-by” media. I don’t have a TV and don’t miss it. I am interested in what is the truth about what is going on in this world. In reading JW/DW, I have no doubt who one enemy is. According to the Toronto Star, there must be more enemies.
Keep up the good work Robert and Staff - I’m learning a lot every day.
(Quran 113:1)
I take refuge with the Lord of the Dawn....(Quran 84:16-19)
I swear by the afterglow of sunset, and by the night, and by the moon when she is at the full .. ..74:32 Absolutely, (I swear) by the moon.
74:33 And the night as it passes.
74:34 And the morning as it shines.
The Koran..... the BIBLE...... How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!..iSAIAH 14:12.......
By myself I have sworn,
my mouth has uttered in all integrity
a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow;
by me every tongue will swear.iSAIAH 45:23 ...
Whoever invokes a blessing in the land
will do so by the God of truth;
he who takes an oath in the land
will swear by the God of truth.
For the past troubles will be forgotten
and hidden from my eyes.iSAIAH 65:16
If the muslim jihad weren't such a horror story, that Toronto Star article would be comedy gold.
Todays news coming out of Canada showed a police-chief issuing a 'stern warning against the backlash against the muslim community'- that famous "backlash" again, well rehearsed...
Just wondering about that widely reported 'mosque-vandalism':
Were the windows broken from the inside or from the outside?
"They all became very religious"- sez the muslim who knows the accused in London. Still, nobody looks at what that 'religion' is all about and what they teach in the mosques.
Press-conference in Canada: A glowering imam told the world that 'lying is forbidden in Islam' and that all these other things that "are forbidden in Islam"...
Nobody stood up and told him that we don't give a flying f*#k about what's "forbidden in Islam"-but instead that there is only ONE LAW and that is the law of the land. If you are an Islamic militant engaging in seditious activities and terror you should be court-martialled and hanged or shot at once.
Our civil and criminal law will not be able to cope with the islamic invasion.
HOW many dots do they need to see the BIG picture ?
Well, let's put it this way arjun. There are so many dots by now that they have all conected and it's just one big dot. For those that are afflicted by the PC/multiculturalist disease, all they see is just that one dot and will answer you with "What do you mean connect the dots? There's only one" Sadly, they are as blind as the muslims are.
Hoping 666 passes uneventfully.
I read that statement to my family earlier today, we laughed out loud. Unfrickinbelievable!
Before me every knee will bow
And how shall that knee bow - if it is never resurrected?
Luk 11:44 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.
Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice
Eze 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
And they shall bow the knee
Woe be unto the leaders who delivered the innocent to be slaughtered!
No where in their own laws - is it written - the "Freedom of religion" included Freedom to incite multitudes to slaughter those who don't believe as the Muslims do!
Muslims who say diferent - are only calling their own 'allah' a liar!
And it doesn't take team of scholars to figure it all out!
Maybe the thing the 17 members of this diverse rainbow coalition had in common was that they went to the gym a lot
In response to a post that was closed:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/011589.php
To Beth:
I'd like to revise my shorthand above to the following:
A mostly good man brings forth out of the mostly good treasure of his heart, mostly good things. And a mostly evil man brings forth out of the mostly evil treasure mostly evil things.
Also, Beth, remember when Jesus said, roughly, this?:
Why do you call me good? No one is good but the Father above.
Posted by: traeh at June 3, 2006 12:21 PM
What part of any of that have the 'wise' men of this world not understood?
The Koran teaches humans to pretend that they are 'God' Himself - into taking lives that they did not give - no - nor ever can replace!
The New Testament teaches no such beheavior.
Did the Canadian police check their parents? I thought the Koran required parental permission for Jihad activities.
Very informative Website, and necessary to "educate" those who lack morals and common sense -- knowing the difference between ethical and unethical. I actually came across the Website by accident and before I realized it I had spent over an hour reading the great information contained herein. Great work Robert!
On another note... the rage over newspaper cartoons... clearly they depict some factual information in a humorous sense and are not intended to be, nor are they offensive. I am disgusted at the negative responses and ridiculous threats over material conceived by great artists exhibiting their liberty of expression. I congratulate the cartoon artists for providing a great form of entertainment.
DEFEND FREE SPEECH.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.
Where ----and get this one---- is it written in INTERNATIONAL LAWS - that freedom of religion included those who preach the slaughter of all others who don't bow to their god?
Give just one GOOD CHRISTIAN Scripture that violates that International law!
And remember - The FIRST Christians did not appear until Antioch. They did not appear in Jerusalem - they appeared in Antioch} Act 11:26
That leaves the New Covenant without blame! Totally!
But it does leave all those who love to find excuses for the evil - without excuse!
You either love Peace - or you don't
and because God gave the earth to the children of men - Psa 115:16 0} that Truth leaves all who argue for the evil - with blood upon their hands - whether the blood be innocent or not - they have blood upon their hands.
You are either for the Peace - or you are not.
There is no in-between
Truly remarkable! If you cannot be honest with yourselves, haven't you already lost?
No one... No one is blinder
Than he who will not see... --U2
I'm sorry, I thought the world had already been given it's wake up call. I know I will never forget at any rate...
I hate to think what it's really going to take to rouse the elected elite from their continued slumber to finally acknowledge the truth and step up to their duty. It's terrifying to imagine what it will take to to that; and well, isn't that the whole point of our enemies after all?
It is the duty of democratic governments to protect their citizenry & their nation's sovereignty against attack, insurrection, sedition, and (let's not forget) treason--otherwise of what use are they to us?
I was in a rush this morning and I just caught a glimpse of Reid Morden (former CSIS boss), on a recorded interview on CTV News, comenting: (1) that this is a religious war; and (2) calling on the muslim community to take responsibility for their acts. Does anyone else saw this interview or have transcripts (or a link)?
US_infidel: The answer is most likely "after".
people so dumb can be wiped out easily by leaving all the manhole covers off for a while.
this just in, more progressive Islam in Africa, some al Qaeda group siezed power in Somalia:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060606/ap_on_re_af/somalia;_ylt=AqYJ9mEm3ZFaRJOy44YlSyqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
Exd 32:17 And when Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said unto Moses, There is a noise of war in the camp.
Exd 32:18 And he said, It is not the voice of them that shout for mastery, neither is it the voice of them that cry for being overcome: but the noise of them that sing do I hear.
Rev 15:3 And they '''sing''' the song of Moses the servant of God
Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
2Cr 10:4 For the weapons [Scriptures] of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds.
The '''song''' of Moses condemns Palestine.
You are either '''singing''' the song of Moses - or you are not. There is no in-between.
Trust in the Sword of the Lord - or put up with the leeches of the murderer.
Above all - don't blame The Word - for the curses of the leeches. Especially if you weren't willing to argue for the REAL GOD WHO mentioned Palestine for end time
Exd 15:14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina. {{{ Song of Moses
Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, [art] dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
O How I'd love - to be in that number...
Jer 16:14 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
Jer 16:15 But, The LORD liveth, >b>that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north
You either hear - or you don't - [your choice]
none shall be alone in his appointed times.
Mat 12:30 He that is not with Me - is against Me
There is no in-between
He said "No' to Palestine - and that includes ALL of Islam
van der Ley:"Ah, Canadian multiculturalism and PC'ness in all its splendour and glory!"
Hello, long time lurker. What's so ironic about these PC types who value inclusion, welfare state and multicultalism is all of that will be lost for them once the Mulims take over, primarly though thier methods, idealologies and woefully pretend ignorance. They are cutting thier own damn throats! Amazing! I can't speak for other Catholics but myself won't have much trouble moving to Islam.
Oh and I'm not confident freedom can prevail which is why I say "once they take over".
Shiek - "Were the windows broken from the inside or the outside?"
That's a good one, Shiek! Taqiyya drools from their mouths.
http://www.cbc.ca/toronto/story/to_cntower20041004.html
Check out this CBC story and see exactly how the Terrorist use our Courts to inflict fear so the Police hesitate arresting Muslims for suspicous behaviour.
Note how Ali Hindy is at the center of the protest.
This is what we're up against and the Wahabists at CAIR are trying to impose Shariah law and force islam into the schools.
Shiek- IMO- One mush conclude the violence against the Mosques was done by agent provocateurs until the police actually capture a non-muslim and find him guilty. Motive? The muslims benefit greatly visa vi generating sympathy and continued ignorance by playing the victim like the vandelism would generate.
As an aside something I've been wondering a long while about the Muslim infiltration in western culture - Anyone else wonder if under our jury setups i.e. -trail by citizens, once Mulisms due to thier population and now citzenship serving on the jury - will find all these terrorists "not guilty"?
Very dangerous! I will be watching the trails attentivly.
In regards to some one who posted above:
Count me out. I'm not helping to elect a "strong, fascist..." leader. Perhaps I misunderstood your posting.
the tide is turning in Canada, l listened a bit to Windsor talk, many mohammuds called in with usual dont blame their religon of pieces, and actually the radio liberal lady blasted them and Cdn callers were not sympathic to these muslims callers. even a Lebonneses Christian called and said the Koran instructs muslims to kill non muslims said on the radio yeah! this Christian further told the liberal radio person about his persecution by muslims, sharia law etc.. made lots of headway..great stuff!
Yep w/o the liberals and leftests on our side we are toast! Shiara law, beheadings, honor killings and all that stuff we be upon us.. Problem is liberal idealology is so opposed to ideas of exclusion and punitive/privacy measures like long term prison, closing borders, invasive investigations and interogations - I see no hope really. (see Isreal and how thier liberals have been crippleing them for 60 years dispite massive onslaught)
I hear you Zebo. In essence, by embracing multiculturalism and forfeiting its own roots, countries like Canada effectively seems to advertise that the Western values that initially shaped the country are inadequate, and that other, better values are needed. Well, enters Islam and its Jihad. As this more homogeneous and conservative (traditionalist) group takes root and proceeds with its missionary campaign (which includes Jihad), the so-called “cultural mosaic” loses the little cohesion it has, and a new hegemony coalesces (this is actually at the core of Gramscism). In the end, a new uniform culture will prevail, and the one that is coming is not a pretty one.
It’s funny you mention that as a Catholic wouldn’t be difficult for you to move to Islam. Early this year I was in a deep conversation with my mother-in-law (a staunch French-Canadian Catholic) on whether the cartoons (ah, the cartoons…) were really offensive to the point that property had to be badly damaged and people had to be killed, and she eventually said that maybe their faith was stronger than hers. Since that day, I became a devout of Sam Harris, and, like Oriana Fallaci, a Christian Atheist…
Van I was mainly tounge and cheek with the conversion remark (but with a sword to my throat you never know) My only point was, as a conservative RC, some things aspoused by islam which will transpire like no abortion, modest dress, womans place etc I will find much less offensive than the liberals who brought this on in the first place and I am trying to save them from. Pure suicidal retards liberals are if you ask me.
Hey van der lay, any news on that interview with Reid Morden ? Also, the radio talk commented on by Lulu sounded great. Arab Christians in Australia often call talkback radio to counter the taqqiya of the mohammedans.
So Muslims want us to remember that the 17 males arrested are only Alleged to be plotting a terror attack, but before any shread of evidence if collected about the damage to a mosque it looks like Muslims have ESP and know who did it.
Below is a article from CAIR and note how this LIE is being posted as if to the the truth to incite more terrorism against Canadians.
CAIR hands out bookletts that coach Muslims to avoid helping the police and RCMP if they are investigating other Muslims for terrorism, this is on record in the transcripts from the Arar inquiry which Sheema Khan from CAIR boastfully asserted because of Islamophobia to innocent Muslims.
THEY WANT US DEAD FOLKS,IT'S THAT SIMPLE
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CAIR in the News
Monday, June 05, 2006
CAIR-CAN: Toronto Mosque Vandalized After Terror Arrests
Source: Reuters
TORONTO, June 4 (Reuters) - Vandals smashed 30 windows of a Toronto mosque and damaged nearby cars after the arrest of 17 suspected al Qaeda sympathizers accused of planning bomb attacks. Canadian Muslims expressed fear on Sunday that a backlash had begun.
The vandals struck overnight at the west-end mosque, a police official said on Sunday. A second official said he had no information on any link between the incident and the arrests, which began late Friday.
"The actual weapon that was used to break (the windows) is unknown," said secretary Ameer Ali of the International Muslims Organization of Toronto, which houses the mosque. "We believe it has to be a heavy instrument, possibly a sledgehammer or a pick ax, or it could even be a crowbar."
About five cars in a parking lot next to the mosque also had their windows broken, Ali said. He said the two-story mosque sees about 500 worshipers daily and the organization said the mosque is one of the largest in North America. . .
Mohammad Alam, president of the Islamic Foundation of Toronto, said the vandalism may be the beginning of religiously motivated reprisals against the country's Muslim population, estimated at more than 600,000.
He said he backed the government's efforts to combat terrorism, but emphasized nothing had been proven in the suspected bomb plot, which has gripped the country. . .
The Canadian Council on American-Islamic Relations asked Muslims to co-operate with security agencies to fight terrorism. (MORE)
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We all know exactly what would have happened if the Jihadist managed to explode the 3 tonnes of fertilizer and slaughtered 5-10 thousand civilians along with children in downtown office daycares.
CAIR along with Muslims would insist these weren't "True" muslims as they did for 9/11 , CAIR loves to defend a Muslims until their convicted of a crime and then they Hijacked Islam for political gain.
So far every Muslim suicide bomber and terrorist has one thing in common, THE QURAN.
NO ISLAM - KNOW PEACE
Just trailing on ala-sux line of thought, another example of the hypocrisy that permeates Canadian media:
(1) Media and authorities have no difficulty in finding a common thread (very short of assigning blame) linking the **victims** of the Niagara region slayings: “Dimitri and Cichocki are among five women who were killed and their bodies dumped in the Niagara region since 1995. The Niagara Regional Police formed a task force earlier this year to investigate the five slayings of women who lived a "high-risk" lifestyle. Police have said two of the victims were strippers and three were prostitutes.” (CTV)
(2) On the other hand, “In investigators' offices, an intricate graph plotting the links between the 17 men and teens charged with being members of a homegrown terrorist cell covers at least one wall. And still, says a source, it is difficult to find a common denominator.” (T Star)
Why, oh, why are we treated as imbeciles?
Zebo - No fret. I actually got your meaning there! After all, **allegedly**, there may be good things in Islam (**sarcasm alert!**).
PAS - nah. All my (google) searches gave me only older and unrelated stuff. Searching CTV's site also no good. Was it a dream?
Haha Ala-sux. The news release is full of the usual propaganda and disinformation.
1. Every Muslim "gone bad" is a "al Qaeda sympathizer" according to them. Natually, to divert attention from the collective islam community - it was "outsiders" not islam, muslims or jihadists.;)
2. They are only "accused of" planning bomb attacks. Meanwhile the rest of the story is devoted to those evil muslim hating "vandals" which I have no doubt they know who did it.
3. "emphasized nothing had been proven in the suspected bomb plot" Yep and I bet with the "right" jury nothing will be proven either.
Van I knew you understood via your reply - was clarifying for other readers as I have a tendancy to be too breif in my remarks and that one was a bit vauge.:)
Anyway "good things" are none without freedom to choose them or penalized by not choosing them as Islam calls for. Therefore I consider islam an total abrogation of rights. It negates man's fundamental rights of choice, religion and live his life within normal bounds such as the "golden rule". Liberals (more so) and Conervatives will be totally screwed if we continue to allow this manace upon our shores.
As far as I can see, there have not yet been any comments on the arrests of the suspected Islamist terrorists in Canada on the hilarious islamophobia-watch website.
(http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/
No doubt though when they do get around to it, the main focus will be on a few panes of broken glass in a Toronto mosque rather than the intentions of the Islamists caught with several tonnes of potential bomb-making material.
The most recent article in the Canadian section of that silly website is "an overview of last year's hysterical campaign against the 'introduction of sharia law' (i.e. faith-based arbitration for Muslims) in Ontario."
Faith-based arbitration'! Up to what level of cockamamy blind stupid PC nonsense do you need to be immersed in order to come up with a euphemism like that for a barbaric, cruel, unjust and inhuman system of law?
I suspect that the site in question is essentially run by Leftists, or Shariah-Leninists as I prefer to call them. And is it not true that many on the far-left are generally sympathetic to the 'faith-based' terror of the Jihadis?
Hello The Northumbrian.
Good reply. I would say the far lefts desease is one of "underdog worshipper" and maybe even a bit of self hate. At least for me it does well to explain thier penchant for high immigration from third world, social programs for the poor, affirmative action in America or generally anything else that takes from producers or estabishment and gives to the "less enfranchized" as they call them. To thier support of some terrorists like the PALS and even seemingly tacit support of all terrorists/insurgents I think it goes along with the whole "underdog worshipping" idealology. Terrorists are poor. Israelis are rich and "stole" their land. Therefore leftests feel for the supposedly weaker party and will not deamonize his hanus acts.
Nine severed heads found in iraq. Media calls it "latest atrocity".
http://today.reuters.co.uk/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-06-06T081946Z_01_GEO628674_RTRUKOC_0_UK-IRAQ.xml
"And still, says a source, it is difficult to find a common denominator."
I'm just wondering if the names of the reporters; SURYA BHATTACHARYA, NASREEN GULAMHUSEIN AND HEBA ALY, give any clue as to how this article could be so willfully blind to the obvious.
Common denominator alert: According to the pictures on the linked article, the female family members of several accused, dress like the Grim Reaper.
Zero G asks:
"I'm just wondering if the names of the reporters; SURYA BHATTACHARYA, NASREEN GULAMHUSEIN AND HEBA ALY, give any clue as to how this article could be so willfully blind to the obvious."
I think you have hit the nail on the head here, Zero. Of course we could not expect non-islamic reporters on this story because, well, we just don't truely understand the ROP.
There are some other disturbing points in this article:
"Mohammad Attique couldn't believe the man who had been renting an apartment in his basement for six months is suspected of being a terrorist." It's amazing how often (and how quickly) the whitewashing begins. Also whitewashing: "Also loaded in the police vans with the young men were some of their possessions, including a Grade 10 math text." My word, if this guy is carrying a Grade 10 math text how can he possibly be a jihadist. What are we? Islamophobes!?
This is the best:
"For the boys who played basketball with Fahim Ahmad, they believed the charges are simply wrong. (Ah well, they must be, then.) And the mother of a 24-year-old who was already dealing with the fact that her son was in jail on gun charges, (please note how the mother is painted as a "victim" of harsh Canadian justice) was devastated by the terrorism charges. "I did not bring up my children in Canada to teach them to kill," Yasin Abdi Mohamed's mother said yesterday." Maybe not, but mohammed would be proud.
Xero G: I'm just wondering if the names of the reporters; SURYA BHATTACHARYA, NASREEN GULAMHUSEIN AND HEBA ALY, give any clue as to how this article could be so willfully blind to the obvious.
Of the three reporters, two are muslim (i.e. Nasreen & Heba) and so their obfuscations are understandable since they are simply following the taqiya princples laid out by that mad Moha-mad. What is so sad is the Dhimmi Hindu lady, Surya Bhattacharya, who plays along with her muslim colleagues in trying to whitewash the jehadist nature of the muslims. Fortunately people, despite all the PCness of the press, can see through this charade ... at least at a gut level.... and I'm sure will eventually react (as they MUST if we are to survive).
ala-sux and the rest of you Torontonians posting above:
Must I remind you that this item came from the Toronto Star? Although Michael Goldbloom is the publisher, Giles Gherson the Editor-in-Chief and Bob Hepburn the Editorial Page Editor, it's very much Haroon Siddiqui's paper.
Maybe they're just stupid.
Are some of you trying to claim that because some of the victims of this fascist Canadian "terror sweep" seem to have Muslim names that Islam must be the common factor? How racist of you! We already know that Islam is a noble religion of peace, so what would be the point of looking into that link? Although many of the cell members are well educated and come from middle class families, what we should be looking into is whether any of them were once poor or disenfanchised, because we all know that poverty and injustice are the real root causes of terrorism.
By the way, does this mean that we will no longer see Canadian flags being waved at the funerals of dead terrorists, like Arafat's for example?
hehe ...about the Flags: Not until brave soles such as yourself continue to spread the truth, write letters to editor etc and save Canada from it's ignorant suicidal death wish. With educated and informed citizens PC dogma and western guilt has no chance.
Zebo wrote
Excellent point.Jury nullification is something many are still unaware of in the US. Wanna bet that Muslims learn about it real quickly?