Richard Cohen thinks that Israel itself is a "mistake," but doesn't mind if it defends itself as it must against the forces of the global jihad. Go figure. Anyway, he's right on this one:
If by chance you have the search engine LexisNexis and you punch in the words "Israel'' and "disproportionate,'' you run the risk of blowing up your computer or darkening your entire neighborhood. Just limiting the search to newspapers and magazines of the last week will turn up "more than 1,000 documents.'' Israel may be the land of milk and honey but it certainly seems to be the land of disproportionate military response -- and a good thing, too.The list of those who have accused Israel of not being in harmony with its enemies is long and, alas, distinguished. It includes, of course, the United Nations and its secretary general, Kofi Annan. It also includes a whole bunch of European newspapers whose editorial pages call for Israel to respond, it seems, with only one missile for every one tossed its way. Such neat proportion is a recipe for doom.
The dire consequences of proportionality are so clear that it makes you wonder if it is a fig leaf for anti-Israel sentiment in general. Anyone who knows anything about the Middle East knows that proportionality is madness. For Israel, a small country within reach, as we are finding out, of a missile launched from any enemy's back yard, proportionality is not only inapplicable, it is suicide. The last thing it needs is a war of attrition. It is not good enough to take out this or that missile battery. It is necessary to re-establish deterrence: You slap me, I will punch out your lights.
The theory of proportionality derives from international law on war.
Now, don't laugh at this poor hog farmer. International and law have no business cohabitating the same sentence, I know that. Unless of course you happen to be a dumbass from some university in the European Union, a two-word term that makes yet another non sequitur. And I apologize for my redundancy here.
But what is this about the Law of War? How super-sequiturized is that. Especially when we're cohabitating Moslem and humanity in the same sentence, not the least of which is their weaponry as supplied by the Russians, a people with their own severe mental problems.
610 * 623 * 732* 1066* 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
Let's face it: It's a crazy mixed-up world. Let the IDF roll on these clowns. Where do I sign up. If not that, may I help sponsor an Israeli 500 lb bomb or at least a lousy air-to-surface missile?
610 * 623 * 732* 1066* 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
I'm introducing my new Kosher Pork Product next Monday. In Tel Aviv no less. Some accuse me of being a money-grubbing agrarian, but I think of myself as a concerned humanitarian.
Visualize the proportion -
New England as the Middle East
Assalamau Laikum all,
Israel's "proportionate" actions are right and they are wrong!
They are right because nobody likes rockets fired at them, no matter how small. Many European peoples think that they overreacted because of the capture of only 2 soldiers...but in truth the weight of these two soldiers "broke the camel's back"..in effect the last straw.
Now they want to take off much of the straw that is the camel's back...hence the fighting.
They are also wrong because they are attacking Allah's chosen people. How they can ever reconsile doing this dasterdely deed I don't know!...for this they are having to pay now and when also when they face Allah in having to explain their actions of force on innocent peoples.
What is interesting now is the lack of support for Israel other than the usual mischievous suspect countries.
During the cold war the Russi & Amerekie used MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction)to protect themselves.
Israel it has to be said uses SAD (Self Assured Destruction). This is not the fault of Israel.... they are a successful and colourful peoples.
No this is the fault of the Amerekie and the British who nievely created the state of Israel in that place,that region which is the place for chosen of Allah's peoples. They nievely thought that Islam's peace is for all to share...but this is not instructed in the Koran.
The Koran says that the jew can only be the friend of a muslim once he has converted (hopefully to Ahmadi) but for nieve reasons best known to themselves ...they refuse ...and so this very premise has led to the death and destruction that you see unfolding before your very SAD eyes.
I have little doubt that Israel will win this battle...as they have done those before ...but what about the next one..and the one after that..and what about the 100th one....for as surely as the sun sets in muddy waters each day...and permitted by Allah to rise the next day...if there is a 99th war ...then there will be a 100th....which fool cannot see that.
Yes, SAD will make the Israelis MAD...but this anger must not be targetted to Allah's chosen....they do what they do through natural instinct...which is what the best preditors do. Like red ants they march through thin and thin... and devour even the mighest creatures...eating away at their joints....disabling their ability to walk away..let alone run away.
With SAD the Israeli will see this cold truth...and then the spilt with the Amekerie will come ...then please remember Naseem in your prayers or your condemnations....but anyways always remember I will be there informing you of Allah's truth...the truth is out there...and it carries the name of Islam...and it is spoken by muslims.
You have a nice day now.....
Ladies and Gentlemen,
The reasoning of an English speaking "zombie", the word I use in lieu of muslims.
miira,
nice youtube vid. i'm a new englander, and it helped me understand the lay of the land over there.
here is a vid i liked at youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biLLsSRvrGk&search=mid%20east%20tensions
youtube is getting quite popular, a great way to share ideas
Naseem clearly makes the case for Israel to obliterate Hezbolla. It's nice to see a terrorist sympathizer finally come around and admit that Muslims will never stop attacking the infidel. Afterall, Satan--oops, I meant allah--commands it of his minions.
The sooner civilisation wakes up to this fact, the sooner we can destroy the Islamic menace.
Yes, I'm an islamophobe.
Difference is, arjun, zombies usually keep relatively quiet and just try to eat your brains, not poison them with nonsense and mumbo-jumbo.
Sure, Naseem, I believe that the Lebanese (and ALL of the other mad-hatters in the ME looking to destroy Israel) are the chosen people of Allah …they were chosen to die at the hands of the superior Israelis.
Aaaaarrrgh! Someone please do something about Naseem! This person makes my head hurt with their completely believable, at times, view of the situation which inevitable deteriorates into Islamic bullsh*t!
Know Your Enemy,
Having being blessed with a brain from Allah ...you are ofcourse free to believe what you want to.
But let me say this , I am not "a terrorist sympathizer"....being a muslim I am only telling you like it is...and there is a difference...only you choose not to see it like this...shame on your little brain.
Powell Doctrine:
General Colin Powell made famous the so-called Powell Doctrine, also known as the Powell Doctrine of Overwhelming Force, as part of the run up to the 1990-1991 Gulf War.
The Powell Doctrine simply asserts that when a nation is engaging in war, every resource and tool should be used to achieve overwhelming force against the enemy. This may oppose the principle of proportionality, but there are grounds to suppose that principles of Just War may not be violated.
THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ATTACKED BUSH FOR NOT IMPLIMENTING THE "POWELL DOCTRINE" IN IRAQ ARE NOW THE LOUDEST CRITICS OF ISRAEL FOR USING OVERWHELMING FORCE.
IDEALOGY (ANTI-SEMITISM)TRUMPS REASON
ps: Naseem: Enjoy your religoius, social, cultural, physical Islamic prison.
The Stockholm syndrome:
Is a psychological response sometimes seen in a hostage, in which the hostage exhibits seeming loyalty to the hostage-taker, in spite of the danger (or at least risk) in which the hostage has been placed.
It is kinda funny watching the braying donkey pulling her squeaky, square-wheeled islamic cart.
I guess Mr. Bush is doing a fair job of supporting America's ally, Israel, however as usual there are some glaring inconsistencies. 1) Did the U.S. send humanitarian aid to Germany during the second world war? And 2) what about the Bush doctrine?
"From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime."
President George W. Bush: September 20, 2001 Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/25/mideast.diplomacy/index.html
In a surprise trip Monday to Beirut, Rice conferred with Prime Minister Fouad Siniora and Nabih Berri, Lebanon's parliament speaker, who has close ties with Hezbollah and Syria.
"President Bush wanted this to be my first stop -- here in Lebanon -- to express our desire to urgently find conditions in which we can end the violence and make life better for the Lebanese people," she said. (Watch as Rice holds talks in Lebanon -- 1:51)
After a closed-door meeting, a source in the parliament speaker's office said that Berri considered Rice's comments "not encouraging."
The source said Rice had wanted any cease-fire agreements, deployment of international troops, the disarming of Hezbollah, return of the displaced Lebanese and plans for reconstruction to occur at the same time.
Berri considered such a course impractical and believed that a cease-fire should come first, the source said.
Naseem:
How interesting that I, an infidel, "having been blessed with a brain from allah," am free to believe what I want.
How ironic, on the other hand, that Muslims, similarly blessed, are NOT free to believe what they want.
WTF, allah??
And before anyone out there actually believes that Naseem is not a terrorist sympathiser, be sure to confirm her definition of "terrorist."
Naseem, the sons of apes and pigs are gonna kick yer barbaric ass. And allah can't do shit about it. Might as well go ahead and drink the Kool-Aid now...
Okay, Zathuras, I can see your delight over reading the rantings of this brainwashed individual, but for how long? For how long do we have to allow the crazed views of this individual to be posted here with absolutely no progress? For that matter, put into a larger picture, how long do we have to put up with the crazed nonsense in the ME before becoming overwhelmed by their inbred ignorance?
Maybe Naseem is right. Like a bunch of brainless ants with nothing in the way of individuality, they join the collective hive and do their damage to the rest of the world in small bites, slowly eroding the patience of the good-willed people of the world. The source of this should be stopped and removed –Islam has perverted humanity like nothing ever before or ever will in the future.
The infidels have given EVERYTHING they’ve ever created to the Muslims in good faith –vaccinations, science, technology ...the internet was given to the world by the Americans as a tool to unite and to share thoughts and ideas …why should they be allowed to spread their hatred of us using our own tools against us? They should be ‘unplugged’ from the world grid, as if that’s even possible right now –the genie’s out of the bottle. Still, given that we try to give the world the best, they insist on giving us their worst.
It has been a good thing however, ultimately, to know that Islam is hell-bent on the overthrowing of the entire world. Now that we know, we should cut them off from all of our tools, deport each and every one of them from our lands (native or not, if you’re a Muslim …you’re gone) remove all mosques from our lands, keep working with our advanced brains (not the ‘little brained’ people of Islam) and using our technologies to get away from fossil fuels (the only thing the Islamic world has ever given to anyone, simply due to a geographic luck of the draw) and completely isolate them. They’ll never survive on their own. They’ll starve, fight, and kill each other.
It’s what they deserve. They’re Allah’s best, after all! It’s best to remove them and leave them alone.
Know Your Enemy ,
Can I call you KYE? As most free-thinking infedels you only think about today and the next few years. You "kick ass" and then fall asleep because you are corrupted, weak and lack focus.
You are foolish enough to live for this day, this year and this life only.
But know that (through the mercy of Allah SWT), muslims never sleep. A muslim is "integrated" and linked and married and surrounded by Allah for this life, other lives through to eternity.... that is the blessing and the mercy that Allah has shown us....and for that the muslim is grateful and proud and arrogant.
Allah keeps us poor, lean and mean and hungry so that we never forget him...and we remain focused.
The muslim is in it for the longhaul....KYE, you have not understood this test of time YET!
Your lack of faith will leave you directionless, your greed will sell arms to the muslim, and the lack of using your lund together with billegerent wild slutty womens who have no wish to have children will leave you with an ever diminishing circle of infedels to call upon. KYE, give it time, things have only started, remember the hare sleeps and does not win the race against the tortoise.
Contrast this with the muslim who is ever getting stronger...with more & more peoples to call upon.
KYE, the road is long, and there are toubles ahead..with much smoke and fires.
On this road we are in it for the longhaul because we have Allah on our side...who do you have?
Whether is road is 3 years, 30 years, 300 years or even 3000 years...it matters NOT one iota...Islam will be the global brand of favour...believe it...it's gonna happen.
MaxInfedel....careful now, your frustration is starting to show...
Opps, is that your head blowing off I see.
Naseem:
No. It won't happen. God didn't put me on this Earth to just sit back and let the torrent of hatred from Islam overwhelm my friends and family and neighbors.
Most of us that have been shouting from the rooftops for years now, despite getting called racists or zealots, know in our hearts that what we are doing is right. This is why we continue the fight that others call futile -- the fight to enlighten people to the truth that is so carefully denied and manipulated -- the fight to show people that Islam is a scourge upon humanity and that the only way to defeat it is with resolute force.
Islam will not win. Islam can not win. If it does, then the human race shall become extinct.
Death-worship does not do very well in the Darwinian scheme of things....
Foehammer
Naseem's braying is getting more frantic and desperate. That's because she is worried and frightened. She is losing her faith in islam and only comes here to reinforce what little is left. Please recognize the psychological signs inherent in her posts.
Don't let her pathetic attempts at psy-ops bother you. The triumph of Enlightened Western Civilization is inevitable and islam and all its sons of Hell shall not prevail against it.
Yes, Naseem, you may call me KYE. And thanks for asking.
And you're right! We ARE asleep. We DO lack focus. And our resolve IS indeed weak. Our western society all but demands that we give the third world the benefit of the doubt, lest we run over the unwashed in our pursuit of civil perfection.
This multiculturalism, this humility, this self doubt is seen as an invitation to parasitic societies like yours, and has empowered your mindless death cult.
But there is a limit. With each successive barbaric act committed in the name of allah (may the crumbs of pork rinds invade his asscrack), the great western giant awakens. Then you and your bloodlusting ilk will indeed see paradise, complete with virgins, white raisins, fresh young hairless boys and some pretty intense heat.
Send me a postcard.
Today is Darfur Action Day (as declared by www.lifenets.net) thanks to (?Frank?)
In my mind, parallels exist between Darfur and Israel. Both are populations of several million people, border an expanding Islamic world, and have tried to resist the expansion. Israel has won its wars, Darfur lost. The agony of defeat has been real for its population.
History has been determined by the violent use of force. Unfortunately, it appears that this reality will continue.
Possibly Cohen was stung into sense by the cogent criticism he received. He's a fool, like most of his colleagues, and uneducated, but not a complete fool.
...as Naseem's head rolls around in the dust defiantly exclaiming, "it's only a flesh wound! islam will triumph!"
“Careful …is that your head blowing off…”
Ha! Why should I be careful? Could it be that I have a simple, yet effective idea as to how to stifle the spread of ignorance, corruption, and outright inhumane treatment of humans? Maybe I’m onto something that would be effective?
Nice comment, too, about my head blowing off. I’m sure you’d know more about such barbaric actions than I ever would.
For how long do we have to allow the crazed views of this individual [Naseem] to be posted here with absolutely no progress?"
-- from a posting above
I choose to keep Naseem as a poster, because I find what is on display of pedagogic value. All of it: the mental disarray; the brief mental forays into foreign freedoms; the obvious miscomprehension of non-Muslims and of belief-systems other than Islam; the confusion and personal fears overcome only by a reassertion, at times tremblingly instinct with fear of what's to come (for her, for the Ahmaidyas), of the certainties of Islam; her intermittent triumphalism about the final victory of Islam. All useful.
But no one should spend time hoping to show her the error of her ways. Instead, visitors to the site should examine the postings as symptomatic, what the patient presents from distant Pakistan, for the purposes of long-distance diagnosis. We already know what the underlying mental condition is called.
I am a gentleman in a White Coat trying. I move from room to room in this hospital, watching the nurse plump up a pillow here, take a sample of some precious bodily fluid there, or possibly crank up the bed (Hi, Lo, Trendelenburg) to answer a felt need, or even to see the officious arrival of someone from the hospital staff, bearing the menu for a future meal, requiring that patient to occupy his mind, thank god, with decisions, decisions, and whether to put a checkmark beside the bland fish or blander chicken, and for dessert, beside the cherry or instead perhaps choose the raspbery-flavored jello.
Neither rain, nor sleet, nor snow, nor even posters at this website, who insist upon spending time and space taking seriously the task of answering a True Muslim Believer, will stay this particular doctor-courier from his self-appointed Grand Rounds.
Hugh-
As some seem to need additional blood flow to the head, reverse Trendelenburg should not be left out.
-XRDC
Hugh,
This patient, Naseem, is unresponsive. Many other posters have tried to revive her, but she keeps relapsing and …I fear there’s no hope for her. What should we do?
Hey, let’s keep her around. Sure, she’s highly contagious, but …what’s it matter? That’s how this disease spread in the first place, so what’s another infection or two? Or twenty? Or 2 billion?
Let’s just allow it all …we can’t stop it, right? There's no cure, so since no one can do anything, let’s just continue doing nothing and letting it spread.
Personally, rather than standing around and smelling the pungent odor of disease, I’d prefer to do away with her –there’s absolutely no need to entertain whatever thought she may have because we’ve heard it over and over again and are being bombarded daily by the most ignorant of humans who are running states, schools, and places of power both here and abroad. We don't need the reminders -we already have them.
Sure, we should just let the pile of crap sit there on the sidewalk and walk on by, but for some reason or another everyone here can’t help but picking it up from time to time claiming “Hey! Look at what I almost stepped in!” The truth of the matter is that the more you play with the sh*t, the more it stinks. If that’s what you want running around the halls of your hospital, so be it. Eventually they may take the hospital over, too.
Why not? They take over everything else, don’t they?
In Naseem's case, Mr. Fitzgerald, rather than ratcheting up the bed, you'd probably better check her restraints and make sure the bite guard is firmly in place.
Maybe up her medication while you're at it.
Excuse me...Dr. Fitzgerald.
Wait a minute!...This Naseem, is she getting free medical care? I am just coming for group therapy at times and selling pharmaceuticals at others but if Naseem is taking all the free samples, well...just make sure she signs the waiver to participate in our clinical studies.
-XRDC
Shouldn't we be slapped for killing 32,000 Imperial Japanese soldiers on Iwo Jima when we lost only one-twentieth that number at Pearl Harbour? Seems a bit "disproportionate" to me.
We are not the subhuman slaves of the Japanese Imperial fascists, or the degraded servants of the "Grosses Deutsches Reich" today EXACTLY because our grandparents and great-grandparents KNEW that the way to prevent that was by hitting our would-be enslavers with everything we had.
This little German-English goy knows that all the talk of "disproportionate response" is motivated by "pure" and simple anti-Semitism.
It makes me want to hurl.
Will check with the Residents to see what they think of keeping the patient in Room 822 in the hospital or whether it is now time to discharge her. Just in case, I'll ask Accounting to prepare a preliminary bill.
The patient isn't responding to treatment but does show signs of being minimally conscious, and may yet come round. I'd concur with Dr Zathras - that there may be some therapeutic value in encouraging the patient's exposure to others in the in the hope of cultivating immunity.
Naseem, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigabilitifacationalisationalism. Hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Londonistan.
Isreal is doing everything according to the just war theory.
I think Israel is JUST porportionate. Hezbollah is now saying they didn't think Israel would respond like they have. I guess they thought they could nibble away at Israel for forever, and nothing would/should happen. Israel is doing what it needs to do. Wipe them out , Israel.
Somewhat related: last night, on Special Report, one of the items raised was about how some House Dems want the invitation to Iraqi PM Maliki to be canned due to his condemnation of Israel. At the end, Charles Krauthammer called it 'grandstanding', asking, 'What's he going to do - say "I'm a Zionist?"'
Why not simply say nothing at all? It's not like he has nothing to do - every day, there is the Shia-Sunni Jihad on. And in the Sunni Arab world, there hasn't been an endorsement of Hizbullah. Given that his is ostensibly an 'unity' government, rather than a Shiite government, he could have simply said nothing.
The other possibility is that he is beholden to Moqtada al Sadr, who's in bed with Hizbullah. Fine, but in that case, the Dems are right. My suggestion - stage a walk-out when he's addressing Congress, and let him know that the (misplaced IMO) support for him in Iraq is limited to just that, and that his support for terrorist groups outside Iraq, even if Shia, will not be tolerated.
Hugh,
I'm not sure why I'm sharing the same ward as her but I've grown to love Naseem. Day after day we're given relentless accounts of Islam's troublesome progression and manifestations, but this little angel of light lessens my burdened soul. Is it the use of the double plural in Wild Slutty Womens or her simplistic call to take up the faith that strengthens me in my wavering faith? Nurse! I think her bag needs changing. No Hugh, this parrot should not be deceased there is more mileage yet in this comedy sketch.
Has anyone noticed that Olmert is still promising to keep his plan to withdraw from the West Bank?
I am holding out judgement hoping that this is merely a strategic statement to maintain multi-national support. In this regard the Israelis could learn a thing or two from Islamic history. Say one thing and plan way ahead to do quite the opposite.
Does any one know one good reason the Israelis should carry through with a West Bank withdrawal in spite of how "well" things went with Gaza?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51224
-XRDC
Olmert may be hopeless. So many are. But let's see how minds are changed in Israel, once they realized what they faced from the south, and from the north, and might, if they follow his idiotic prescription, face all along their eastern flank, losing control of the Judean hills, of the water resources on which Israel's life depends, and the invasion routes from the east which could cut Israel at its 8-mile wide waist, should the country ever be forced back into the ridiculous armistice lines of 1949.
Dear Jihad watch,
haf a hunch when I read Richard Cohen's earleir column that he wasn't arguing against Israel.
It seemed to me and it is confirmed by this column that he was arguing against people like Tony Judt.
Dear Jihad watch,
haf a hunch when I read Richard Cohen's earleir column that he wasn't arguing against Israel.
It seemed to me and it is confirmed by this column that he was arguing against people like Tony Judt.
Dear Jihad watch,
haf a hunch when I read Richard Cohen's earleir column that he wasn't arguing against Israel.
It seemed to me and it is confirmed by this column that he was arguing against people like Tony Judt.
Hugh,
In my times and tribulations I have discovered not to trust delusional mis-fits hell-bent on inflicting their 'ideals' onto others...