Aksa Brigades announce female suicide bomber unit

what do females get in the eternal bargain?

The Women get to take off those sweaty burkas. In otherwords, if you are a good muslim on earth you don't have to put up with that muslim crap in heaven. Even the muslims hate living like muslims. Their heavenly reward is to live like an infidel. Ironic, isn't it?

Ever wonder where these palestinians get all of their explosives? What arab countries manufacturer their own munitions? Which buy them from the Chinese or Russians?

This is going to sound harsh.....but there will be a lot less breeding machines for future jihadists. YAY!

I'm sure the girls are going in with the knowledge that, if they don't kill themselves now, they'll spend their entire life slowly being killed by islam and still end up going to hell.

Makes me wonder. Are they having a problem getting the boys to blow themselves up? Or is it becoming beneath them.

Stupid is as stupid does.

I'm with you on that one, freewwoman. Less martyr-breeders!

It's too bad. I had a little hope held out for women in this whole thing thinking they just might be the sensible ones. If through global pressure they got a glimmer of equal rights and stop breeding, they might ever so slowly put an end to the craziness, but it appears they want to go out with a bang like the boys do.

If the wives of the Canadians who were plotting jihad were any indication, one claimed they desired divorce if their husband didn't take up jihad when the time came, so I'd imagine they're just as brainwashed as the rest.

May they all experience "premature explodation".
(Work accidents)

Hooper suggested a mosque open house and participation in CAIR’s “Explore the Quran” and “Explore the Life of Muhammad” campaigns. SEE: www.explorethequran.org and www.cair.com/Muhammad

He said CAIR’s research shows that anti-Muslim prejudice decreases when people get to know ordinary Muslims and when they have access to accurate information about Islam.

That last line should read "when they have access to taqqiya about islam.

Geez, if I were a woman in an Islamic society, I'd probably volunteer for a suicide mission too.

Female suicide bombers! Lovely thought. Jihadis love to use women to carry out their missions!

No wonder I get the shivers when confronted with those brides of satan in their burkas or just long, black coats and headscarves, pushing baby umpteen baby prams in our streets!

I wonder what the female suicide bombers get in paradise. What do their unborn children get in islamic paradise?

So, that's their aim now. Female suicide bombers to wage attacks in Israel! The wimps.
Oh yes, the Palis are REAL men. They are going to use their women and probably children to wage war against Israel! Big, mean fighting machines, the cowardly Palestinians!

This is typical for the Muslim scum. They hide behind their women and children in areas they know will be hit by enemy fire, then they cry and complain that we have targeted civilians!
They then purposely send out their women and children to do the dirty work.
What men! What cowards! Only cowardly muslim wimps hide behind women and children! Here in the West they kill their female family members at will, our western courts will be lenient on them!
What do these cowards have to lose?

Come out and fight like men! Of course they don't mind dying because they believe they'll get some nasty, wild animals to screw in the afterlife.
Sorry for being so honest!

So according to Ibrahim, was it a pig's head or the head of a Jew? I thought that every time a pig is beheaded, a Jinn gets his wings...

-XRDC

They go on about the womb being a weapon to takeover the west. Every womb out of action is a good idea. I hope that they don't discover that the Bird Flu vaccine includes an ingredient to make Muslims infertile... whoops!

I guess this is the Palestinian way to say "thank you" for producing 10 sons.

I hope that they don't discover that the Bird Flu vaccine includes an ingredient to make Muslims infertile... whoops!/

posted by Waterdragon

Hey! That could be a great rumor to start!! We could tell muslims it makes people barren and they wouldn't take it, and we'd all be saved. Yay!

oops! I mean Icedragon!!

Sorry!

Icedragon: "I hope that they don't discover that the Bird Flu vaccine includes an ingredient to make Muslims infertile..."

You are Baaad.... Don't make me beat you with a twizzle stick now...!

In all my years traveling to the Middle East, I have never seen a woman wearing a burka, yet we hear this myth in this thread.

Although you would like to this most Muslim woman are like this:

In reality, most I see are like this:

Re: Aksa Brigades announce female suicide bomber unit....absurd-

http://www.jr.co.il/humorpic/pc0068.jpg

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Media/Cartoons/SuicideBomber.JPG

http://www.jr.co.il/humorpic/pc0089.jpg

http://network.news.com.au/image/0,10114,5072687,00.jpg

In all my years traveling to the Middle East, I have never seen a woman wearing a burka, yet we hear this myth in this thread.

Although you would like to this most Muslim woman are like this:
In reality, most I see are like this:

And I've never seen a Westerner wearing shirts and pants

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1072/img51807om.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8679/1571girlicecream5al.jpg

Infidel Pride, How many Muslim countries have you gone to? How many Muslims have you known?

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6894/2couples1pe.jpg

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9018/55nh1.jpg

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2264/210fr.jpg

I can upload thousands more, I have never seen a woman in a burka in Muslim countries. It is very very rare in countries such as Iran and other cultures in Muslim countries.

How to Hack Your Way Into College
This entry was posted on 7/10/2006 6:29 PM and is filed under Ummah News Links.

RIYADH, 11 July 2006 — A young Saudi man who was declined admission to Riyadh’s King Saud University to study computer science got angry, went home, fired up his computer, and shut down the university’s online discussion forum, the daily Al-Watan reported yesterday.

The prospective student said he got angry after an official at the admissions department insulted his high school coursework and told him to come back when he had better grades.

After hacking into the website, the university’s webmaster urged the admissions department to admit the tech-savvy student.

The student told the paper that he belongs to a group of computer geeks that work to shut down Zionist and anti-Islamic websites in order to prevent those views from appearing on the World Wide Web.

Unfortunately, the group didn’t say if it works to shut down the other type of anti-Islamic websites: the ones that perversely hijack Islam in order to advocate violent terrorist actions against Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

http://ummahnewslinks.com/2006/07/10/how-to-hack-your-way-into-college.aspx

Sean12321-

"In all my years traveling to the Middle East, I have never seen a woman wearing a burka, yet we hear this myth in this thread."

You are a fraud.

OT: Any recommendations on the best annotated Koran? I've read the bare text, and have no experience with which to make a buy recommendation to a colleague who asked.

Well sean 12321 these are some fine specimens, therefor their not under wrap. Unlike most screaming mimi's opps sorry momis. It sucks to be a muz!

A woman who identified herself as Um al-Abed told reporters in Gaza City that so far about 100 women had expressed their desire to carry out suicide attacks against Israel.

More muslim BS, 100 = 1 or maybe zero. I don't know how many muslim women have blown themselves up so far but I'd bet less than an even dozen, probably less than one a year. This is just more poorly thought out propaganda. If the women are scared to show their faces and cover all skin then putting your private parts all over the walls would have to offend allah, mohammad and every imam on the planet. All it would take is for one fast thinking westerner to save a little something in a jar and the entire muslim world would be outraged and outlaw female suicide bombers. He would not really have to do it, just claim it, they lie why can’t we? Don’t get me wrong I am not encouraging grave robbery but sometime life’s problems have a simple solution.

Sean12321

Photos that I see of women in the Gulf states are convincing enough. Besides, I don't need to go to any Islamic country, I see them here in the US.

APF

Try this site.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.html

Ask your colleague to use an online live version, rather than sink cash into buying one of these.

"Um al-Abed also hinted that the group was planning to target Hamas members who are responsible for attacks on Fatah activists."

Fatah members killing Hamas members, I just hope no Jews get caught in the crossfire.

"We know the identity of the murderers and we urge the Palestinian government to take immediate action against them," she said. "If the government fails, the Aksa Martyrs Brigades will punish the Hamas culprits in our own way."

A three way war, I want the popcorn concession.

The question to ask is why he worries about the burka. Maybe he is embarrassed by the muslim domination of women or just realizes we view them as unwilling slaves. I have muslims claim the burka is a sign of respect but I don’t see them respecting their women here in Tampa. I have seen multi colored scarves and young muslim girls at the mall yanking the scarves off their heads and stuffing them into purses. I think we westerners are starting to rub off on the kids.

What a sick bunch of bastards, for every female suicide bomber it cuts off the family tree and stops that woman from keeping her family name on earth for one more generation.

If Islam and the Quran have such a alluring
promise of hope and peace through murdering non-Muslims in a suicidal Jihad that even females embrace, there is a serious war going on and Muslims belive THEY own the Earth and Muhammed spoke directly to Allah so it must be true.

Here in Canada muslims are still in denial over the 17 Jihadists arrested last month, and as the truth comes out and the Whahabi-wives spew their hatred for Canada we still see the Clerics and Imams rant about Backlash and how anti-Islamophobia classes are needed because Canadians are the ones with the problem . not the Muslims.

"It's the Quran stupid"

"In all my years traveling to the Middle East, I have never seen a woman wearing a burka, yet we hear this myth in this thread."

You wouldn't KNOW what is under those tents on the move. Look closer. Still won't be able to recognize them. Take my word, they are women. Yes, I HAVE seen them.

"We are expecting more female suicide bombers. The new unit is now preparing to launch attacks against Israel in response to the Israeli aggression and crimes against our people in the Gaza Strip."
Palis were the ones to start this, and now these killers are just joining in because there must be shortage of men. Isn't this the continuation of aggression by them ?
They justify their own acts of murder with the same old excuse - whine, whine, whine...

"what do muslim women get in heaven?" (Actually, I've often wondered this. As well as just where those 72 virgins originate...)

Anyway, for those of you who haven't already seen it,
this http://www.sandmonkey.org/2006/07/09/heaven-can-wait/

is the Egyptian Sandmonkey's explanation.

PS well done them Russkies (Chechnya)

Cheers all!

Frank: “Aksa Brigades announce female suicide bomber unit....absurd-“

Frank - those were very funny. Where were you on this lonely weekend at dhimmiwatch when some of us were pathetically trying to come up with some decent Muslim jokes (in the venerable Playboy tradition, as it were).

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/012041.php

Your post illustrates an interesting phenomenon (also abundantly illustrated during the cartoon jihad) - which is that cartoonists are at the forefront of humor about Islam in the west, while the stand-ups (from whom presumably many of these non-visual jokes normally issue) - have largely abandoned the playing field.

Of course, in all seriousness, I can't say that I blame them (the stand-ups), because there's certainly more anonymity for the cartoonists and as anyone who has been paying attention by now realizes, humor about Islam has now become a serious life and death matter.

If someone were to take the time to write a history of humor and comedy in the west some years down the road, I have little doubt that such a history would document a major historical shift in western humor, commencing with 9/11, and then backed up by the murder of Van Gogh, and then by the cartoon riots. Such a history of humor would document a shift from the prevalence of increasingly outrageous stand-up comedy in the west, to the more anonymous venues (and associated talents) of the print world, which means CARTOONISTS, as opposed to STANDUPS.

Yes, I know, this probably seems obvious to most here, but still, its rather fascinating, when one is actually caught up so acutely (9/11 definitely qualifies as "acute" BTW - as history will never live down the fact that 911 is the emergency code widely known to even 2-year olds in the west) and unexpectedly in the path of history, while at the same time being somewhat conscious of it, to reflect on the actual historical impact of what seem at times, to be trivial details indeed, such as the subtle shift in the state of western comedy, post 9/11, while at the same time being vaguely and simultaneously aware of the fact that such seemingly trivial details actually have quite an overall historical significance, and that those who would take the time to actually study and even document those details and that significance, might say, some 5-10 years from now, actually have a best seller on their hands.

(Phew. Got through that sentence, which leaves me with all that more respect for what Hugh attempts every day, and quite often accomplishes, in his posts here. Makes me wonder whether someone shouldn't hold an "out-Hugh-Hugh" contest, whereby one tries to come up with the longest, but still grammatically correct sentence in human history. Or perhaps, unbeknownst to me, such a contest is currently, or already has been, held somewhere?)

Edward Gibbon believed that old Mo was deliberately vague about what would await these bomber babes on the other side (although he assumed they would all have been married):

"...the gates of heaven will be open to both sexes; but Mahomet has not specified the male cmpanions of the female elect, lest he should either alarm the jealousy of their former husbands, or disturb their felicity by the suspicion of an everlasting marriage."

(I suppose you have to develop a taste for his particular form of humour)

P.S. Poor Sean, wandering the middle east looking for a woman in a burqa when he could have just walked down Whitechapel High street.

An interesting speculation on the date chosen by Iranian designated madman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to respond to the latest EU-US proposals: Why August 22?

Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has rejected Western demands that he respond to a new proposal regarding the cessation of Iran’s nuclear efforts by the middle of this month.

To the consternation of officials in Europe and Washington, Ahmadinejad promised only to respond by the end of the Iranian month of Mordad (August 22).

Why that date? Why so long to look over a simple package of incentives and give either a negative or a positive reply? Finding the answers to these troubling questions may require America and Europe to come to terms with a reality Western liberalism has done its best to ignore - that Islam remains engaged in a clash of civilizations with the Judeo-Christian world.
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php

storagemanager -

Very interesting link -- thanks for posting! Yeah, I don't think it's a accident that Ahmad picked the August 22 date; but time will tell how signigicant it truly is.

Using a nuke against Israel would kill many of their beloved Palestinians. They of course will claim they are martyrs but they would be the real martyrs. Our retaliation would erase iran. I for one will not miss them.

promises, promises,, they are all empthy.. actually l read a while ago, a PA mother of three was a suicide bomb killer, they had caught her with her boyfriend, so rather than face the death at the hands of her husband,she chose to kill herself and innocents. but then being a mulsim, especially a women muslim, l would not want to live either. what a sad society.. so much virulent behaviour and truly depressing outlook on life.. cant sing,cant dance, cant go out without being wrapped up in an ugly bag.. yeah these muslims have no "joie de vivre".

This proves that the terrorists have no respect for life no matter what apologists for Islam say.

It just shows how sick and disgusting they really are Lulu, they have no real warriors so the force their own to die in suicide attacks and then claim a great victory, truly a sick bunch.

So these women are admitting that it is better to be blown to shreds of unrecognizable primate jelly and marrow and bone fragments than live within Islam.

(No kidding.)

A suicide vest is warmer embrace than a Muslim man.

(And the end result is about the same in either case.)

Women's liberation, islamic style.

"Um al-Abed also hinted that the group was planning to target Hamas members who are responsible for attacks on Fatah activists..."
-- from the article above

Nothing should be done to discourage this part of their program.

Here is a short clip of a post from Iraq the Model....note that many of the Iraqi commentators DO NOT support Hamas and DO support Israel. Room for hope?

The reactions I gathered were posted on an Arabic forum on the BBC Arabic website. About three dozens of comments were made by Iraqis both inside Iraq and in exile and all these comments were supportive of Israel or at least against Hamas as far as the topic is concerned except for only three comments; that's a 10:1 ratio while as you probably have guesses, the opposite ratio is true about the comments by the rest of Arabs.

Our hearts go out to the family of the Israeli soldier who was kidnapped by some Palestinian group. We share your suffering and we fully support anything you do to free your missing soldier"
Hassan al-Shami: Baghdad/Iraq.

I wonder how much time and blood it will take until Arabs and Muslims realize that the world is not the property of their ancestors and that God is not a trademark of their minds and that terror is a dead-end that leads only to more destruction.

Israel is a civilized country defending herself from barbaric savages whose minds are made of stone…minds that do not want to believe they are living in the 21st century.

What's happening to the Palestinians despite its cruelty is going to be a good lesson for them to learn they must clear their community off the hateful fundamentalist terror mentality…[Quranic verse] "God will not change people until they change what's within themselves"…but, will you change?!!"
Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi.

This alihu akbar cry surely, and especially after 1400 years, needs a little clarification from the criers. I mean: Alexander, Peter, and Catherine were great. According to Tony the Tiger sugar coated wheat flakes are great. The greater metropolitan area of any major city holds a great many people. And in the end, Ali was the greatest fighter of all - well, more entertaining than Tyson. A sports writer said it best when he was bemoaning the fact that we Americans chose, “super” for our championship football game. He pointed out that in a different decade we might have called it, “The Neato Bowl” or, “The Dyn-o-Mite Bowl.” That’s what I can picture for that lot: all of them dancing around yelling, “Allah is neato” or “Allah is bitchin” or even, “Allah is the bomb.”

In all my years traveling to the Middle East, I have never seen a woman wearing a burka, yet we hear this myth in this thread."

Is this guy blind or just a troll?

All you have to do is look at your local TV news station to see the latest pictures of muslims demonstrating anywhere.

However if you have BEEN there you can SMELL many of them before you see them.

..................................

Back to the prinary point(sort of, anyway)

Female suicide bombers with mammary prostheses of C4. Why not? look good and be on a mission for god. Sounds almost erotic but a certain way to cure gropers.They would also have no problems getting into israeli bars, as all they would have to do is show an impressive cleavage

I have lived in the middle east for the last 27 months and have seen LOTS of women wearing burkas. I really doubt you have been to the middle east sean or whoever you are. Ever been to the beach in an Islamic country? Lots of women laying out on the sand in their burkas, lol. Even in kuwait where its supposed to be moderate islamic country there are still seperate rooms in restaurants for the ladies to dine in. Why am i feeding the troll? *shrug*

Leave alone the middle east, we in India see the burka beauties wherever there is muslim population. I can see only the feet. And if they are anything to go by, have no desire to see the rest of a burka beauty. Sometimes I wonder they don't die of filth.

Never seen a burkha in the ME? Then you never been to the ME:

http://www.time.com/time/photoessays/2006/muslim_fashion/

Sean may have lived in the Middle Eastern section of the Planet Pluto. I see many Arab women [but not all] wearing burkas, especially in our Jerusalem shopping malls. Maybe it's better that way so that we know who's who. Anyhow, watching Arab women, even in burkas, I have come to appreciate the womanly instinct to appear beautiful and attractive, even in forbidding circumstances, such as Muslim prohibitions. Yes, even in a burka, some Arab women try to express their passions and sense of sex. I remember being stationed in Sh'khem years ago [Sh'khem is the original Hebrew name that we use for the new town founded by the Flavian emperors of Rome near the ruins of ancient Sh'khem. The emperors called it Flavia Neapolis, which the Arabs corrupted to Nabulus or Nablus]. Even among other Arabs, the Nabulsis have a reputation for being more fanatically Muslim than others. The women there were wearing burkas back in the mid-1980s, even before the ascendancy of Hamas [= Muslim Brotherhood] among Muslims in the Land of Israel. Nevertheless, young women wearing those large black, or slate gray or slate blue or dull brown sacks, would express their sexual passions through one of the few parts of their bodies not covered. The burka would go down to about the ankle or a little above it. Below the burka, the young women wore iridescent blue or iridescent red or silver or green shoes, with high heels, although not stiletto height. So female passions could not be suppressed entirely. The iridescent shoes could not be missed.

I don't know, however, what Um al-`Abed [= mother of the slave] wears on her feet. Maybe her burka is longer. Maybe the girls in Sh'khem have finally been intimidated by the mullahs into wearing longer burkas and colorless shoes. Can we have an update?

despite living near muchas women wearing Islamic garb, I may have gotten the name wrong. The long sack-like dress may be called a hijab or abaya, although I called it a burka above. Anyhow, I know what I see, even if I'm not sure of the right name.

"Makes me wonder. Are they having a problem getting the boys to blow themselves up? Or is it becoming beneath them."

Maybe the Danish cartoons were right, maybe haven actually has run out of virgins.

Less martyr factories. Its a good thing.

Um al-Abed also hinted that the group was planning to target Hamas members who are responsible for attacks on Fatah activists. She pointed out that a senior Fatah militiaman, Haitham Rai, was killed over the weekend in Gaza City apparently by Hamas gunmen.
"We know the identity of the murderers and we urge the Palestinian government to take immediate action against them," she said. "If the government fails, the Aksa Martyrs Brigades will punish the Hamas culprits in our own way."

I guess it's getting harder and harder to tell the good "militants" from the bad "murderers" without a program.

August 22 - hmmm. My birthday.

Maybe Sean meant the "middle eastern seaboard states" of Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina, etc.

APF

Try this site.

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.html

Ask your colleague to use an online live version, rather than sink cash into buying one of these.

Thx, Infidel Pride. Actually, I scan the Skeptics from time-to-time, it's a great resource.

But this dude is a high level exec at one of the biggest banks in the world, so he can afford a hardcover book. I just wanted to get him an intellectually honest, yet not fawning, annotated translation.

It's important to reveal to our biz execs what's going on out there. This dude is extremely intelligent, but has no clue.

"The long sack-like dress may be called a hijab or abaya, although I called it a burka above. Anyhow, I know what I see, even if I'm not sure of the right name."

Eliyahu, burka is the whole of the tent from head to ankles. hijab is the small part that covers half the face, leaving just the eyes open. hijab can be removed in the presence of ,say, female staff of a shop.

What we are up against is the thinking below:

[QUOTE=Khalid Amayreh]This shows the Israeli army as it really is, a reptile-Nazi-like army of thugs, hoodlums, and common criminals, not unlike the Gestapo, SS and Wehrmacht.

The latest carnage is of course not the first of its kind, and it most certainly won’t be the last. Massacres, after all, have always been Israel’s modus operandi. Israel itself inaugurated its birth with “holy massacres” as Talmudic sages would tell us.

In truth, Zionists have committed more massacres per capita than any other people on eath since Adam and Eve. In fact, one can safely say that wanton killings and massacres are piece and parcel of being Zionist.

I understand that there are Jews who condemn the pornographic slaughter in Gaza, people like Uri Avneri and like-minded Jews. We salute those people, who are our natural partners in the quest for a just and durable peace in Palestine.

However, it is also true that the vast bulk of Israeli Jews are enjoying the killings of Palestinian children and are congratulating each others.

Just take a look at Jewish internet sites in Israel and abroad and see how Jewish youngsters are congratulating each other on the killings in Gaza.

This murderous cannibalism doesn’t come out of the blue. Today in Israel, school curricula are dominated by the Talmud, especially a specific Talmudic text called Shulhan Aruch.

In this text, Jews are commanded to slaughter non-Jews who are viewed more or less as animals or at least lesser human beings.

Of course, Jewish propagandists and apologists would invoke “anti-Semitism” when the truth about the racist, Nazi-like garbage Israeli boys and girls are being taught is exposed through the media.

In fact, if any objective truth-seeker wants to find out why the Israeli army and para-military Jewish terrorists are doing what they are doing to the helpless Palestinians, which is actually nothing less than a slow-motion genocide, one has to go first to the Talmud, the unofficial constitution of Israel. This hateful scripture is Israel’s real Torah as every rabbi would admit.

Today, more than 50% of Israeli army soldiers and high-ranking officers are graduates of Talmudic schools or Yeshivot throughout Israel.

And these graduates go to the army, thoroughly inculcated with this venomous and Nazi-like ideology and value system that indoctrinates them in mass murder and racism and criminality.

In short, we are dealing with real Nazis, and the truth, however bitter and unpalatable, must be told.

We know the Juedo-Nazi leaders of Israel, along with their cheerleaders in North America, would strive to spread the lie that such wanton acts of bloodshed are “misfires” or “regrettable mistakes.” The less erudite in mendacity and hasbara would probably call the slaughter “collateral damage” as the Americans often refer to their own frequent genocidal episodes in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Unfortunately, such concocted lies still deceive many ordinary people in the West, who breathe, drink and eat Jewish propaganda via their local and national Zionist-controlled media outlets.

Luckily, there are more people who are getting to know the truth about the Nazi nature of Israel and the Nazi-like treatment Palestinians are being subjected to by the children and grandchildren of the holocaust survivors.

What is really disgraceful, however, is the fact that Europeans, who are relatively freer from the Zionist stranglehold, especially when compared to North Americans, are effectively silent in the face of this Gestapo-like behavior.

European condemnation, and not just verbal condemnation, is very important in this context, since Israel and her criminal leaders would interpret any lukewarm European reaction as a green line to keep up the wanton killings.

The Palestinians people realize that European political leaders are reluctant to call the spade a spade because of historical reasons and because of Jewish intimidation.

However, ordinary Europeans, including professional unions, workers unions as well as writers, intellectuals and civic leaders must speak up against Judeo-fascism or Zio-Nazism.

After all Europe can not just atone for one holocaust by allowing Israel and the Jews to commit another holocaust against a helpless people whose only crime is their enduring determination to be free from another Nazi reign of occupation and terror.[/QUOTE]

My somewhat scatter brained response.

Well I know anywhere you put in Jew or Zionist you should replace that with Muslim or Islam and Replace talmud with Koran then you might have some valid points.
The fact you believe this utter garbage places you at the least an idiot and excusable or at the most a complete liar and without a leg to stand on.

Europe knows the truth that the leaders of the Palistinians refuse to live in peace and the sheep who follow them are used as martyrs when their leaders provoke Isreal enough to get them to respond with military might.
Then the same people who ordered the suicide bombers or rocket attacks get a response and point to the JOOOOOO'S and say look at what they are doing they are killing women and children blah blah blah.

Of course since you hate the JOOO'S you will never admit you are not only wrong but a revisionist on history the Jews have not been in a position for a couple of thousand years to commit the kind of genocide you speak of. They have been the recipient of genocide more often then not.

If they wanted to they could wipe out the entire people now called Palistinians before anyone could respond.

The middle east is a huge region sparsely populated there is no reason for this nonsense to continue.

One need only look at the events that occur over in hell (middle east and muslim held lands) utter insanity suicide bombers, car bombers, mortar teams, and groups shooting Qassam rockets from Palistinian controlled lands into Isreal.

Look at the machete weilding murder squads being employed in Africa yet you still have the nerve to say the jews are mass murderers. How about the 80-90 million Hindu's murdered in India? How about the Buddhist that once live in Afganistan?

Religion in one form or another has been the source of wars and death from the beginning of time and Islam is head and shoulders above the rest for the sheer amount of murder, then Christians, jews and probably some of the Latin sacrificial religions fit in there somehow.

Isreal has been the land of the Jews from when time began its near useless desert and not worth the amount of blood being shed over it. The jews have one country to call home and I think its fair to say they should have it.
Muslims have somewhere around 76 countries to live in ranging from mellow to outright nutty Sharia style law.
The fact is Muslims think any land a muslim has ever aquired thru murdering the people who lived there, to buying the land or a demographic shift thru squatting is forever Muslim no matter that the land was taken back thru the same means. No where is this evidence more easily visible then the ongoing crap between Isreal and Palistine.

Your Jew hating thinking is better used figuring out who the current real enemy of world peace is...Let me help you [b]M[/b]issguided [b]U[/b]nreasonable [b]S[/b]tupid [b]L[/b]emmings [b]I[/b]nsisting on [b]M[/b]urdering anyone they can.

Sadly, i haven't seen enough of the muslimahs. Some of them are damned beautiful, like bin Laden's niece, the singer ( I think it's shes his niece) and the wife of Abdullah of Jordan is world-class... his mother ex-Queen Noor was outstanding but an import.

In short, I'd like to see more beautiful muslimahs. Some are truly beautiful.

I took the train to and from work for many years and would see this malaysian or indonesian muslimah at my stop. She would get off at the local university, but I couldn't help looking at her on the platform. She was a knockout, even with the hijab. It seems to me when everything lines up right you can't beat a good looking muslimah. I never could anyway. You have to appreciate something that damned beautiful. I know I would if I owned one.

you know what? A muslimah doing a lap dance on me would blow me away more convincingly that c-4 strapped to her waist. If she looked like Prince Abdullah of Jordan's wife she could do anything she like with me.... that's powerful stuff people.

you know what? A muslimah doing a lap dance on me would blow me away more convincingly that c-4 strapped to her waist. If she looked like Prince Abdullah of Jordan's wife she could do anything she like with me.... that's powerful stuff people.

Lulu wrote:

...actually l read a while ago, a PA mother of three was a suicide bomb killer, they had caught her with her boyfriend, so rather than face the death at the hands of her husband,she chose to kill herself and innocents...
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I've heard of a couple of case like this. Of course, a lot of Muslimas are just as fanatical as the men--witness the Jihadi wives in Canada or the mother of "shaheeds" in the Hamas cabinet.

But some women have commited real or imagined trespasses against Islam and are in danger of being killed by their own relatives to preserve their family's "honor", are then told that by blowing themselves up along with innocent civilians that they can redeem themselves and go to heaven.

Sick sick sick

Islame - I got part way into your post quoting this Khalid Amayreh, and I was thinking to myself, My God! The sheer projection here is utterly mind-boggling! If one were to substitute Muslim or Islam for every use of Jew or Zionism, he would be dead-on. I was going to use it as an example on another thread where another poster had brought up the same point about how Muslims turn things around but then I got to your response and you totally read my mind!

Just to be sure I was interpreting projection correctly, I googled it a bit, and one site described projection as most common in paranoid and anti-social type personalities.

It is also described here:
http://www.heretical.com/sexsci/bpsychol.html

"2a. Freudian Projection

"The following is a collection of definitions of projection from orthodox psychology texts. In this system the distinct mechanism of projecting own unconscious or undesirable characteristics onto an opponent is called Freudian Projection.

* "A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks insight into his own impulses and traits."

* "The externalisation of internal unconscious wishes, desires or emotions on to other people. So, for example, someone who feels subconsciously that they have a powerful latent homosexual drive may not acknowledge this consciously, but it may show in their readiness to suspect others of being homosexual."

* "Attributing one's own undesirable traits to other people or agencies, e.g., an aggressive man accuses other people of being hostile."

* "The individual perceives in others the motive he denies having himself. Thus the cheat is sure that everyone else is dishonest. The would-be adulterer accuses his wife of infidelity."

* "People attribute their own undesirable traits onto others. An individual who unconsciously recognises his or her aggressive tendencies may then see other people acting in an excessively aggressive way."

* "Projection is the opposite defence mechanism to identification. We project our own unpleasant feelings onto someone else and blame them for having thoughts that we really have."

"2b. (General) Projection

"Here projection is assuming that others act or perceive similarly – according to this definition it is not necessary for a projected trait to be undesirable or unconscious. Projection is probably inherent in social animals and the single most important psychological mechanism. The following are given as examples:

"1. Individual A assumes that B sees the colour red as he does, until informed that B is colour-blind;

"2. Someone who never lies is easy to deceive because he projects his truthfulness onto others, assuming that others are honest also;

"3. ‘It takes one to know one’;

"4. An inept con-man fears that others are trying to cheat him, signals his fear and alerts others;

"5. (Freudian) An individual who possesses malicious characteristics, but who is unwilling to perceive himself as a protagonist, convinces himself that his opponent feels and would act the same way."

It is interesting to me that apparently projection does not NECESSARILY entail unconscious suppression of the trait that one has. I think that is important to note because the Freudian sense of the term assumes that one finds the trait one is denying in oneself to be undesirable and is unconsciously suppressing it (and defending against awareness of it) but I see no evidence that Muslims actually have a problem with their disregard for the infidel or their supremacist desires or their genocidal tendencies. So I couldn't understand why they would feel the need to have a supposedly unconscious defense mechanism like this.

Rather, the more likely explanation is that what Muslims are doing falls under the 2nd classification of "General" projection, which doesn't make that assumption. Rather, the con man, being a con man, just naturally assumes that everyone is like him. The Muslim, being a supremacist, genocidal maniac intent on conquering the world, just naturally assumes that the Jews are just like him.

Also, though, "generalized projection" also applies to the projection of positive traits, as in example #2 above, whereby honest people assume everyone is honest.

You can see the dilemma here when it comes to Muslims and infidels. Infidels (and especially liberals, who tend to be very self-conscious of their virtues) project their positive traits onto Muslims (they are good, just like us) while at the same time Muslims, being antisocial, make the assumption that others are just like them and out to persecute and destroy THEM!

Its interesting that much is made of the shame/blame culture vs the guilt culture dynamic in this clash. And at least one poster here noted the irony there that in that dynamic we blame us and they blame us so at least we appear to see it in the same way!

But I think more should be made of this tendency towards projection. This natural human tendency (even without having to conjure up any unconscious dynamics) assumption that "they are like us", because that not only explains our naivete re Islam (us projecting our goodness onto them) but it also explains their paranoia that we are intent on harming them (a case of them just flat out projecting their badness).