Omar Bakri, as we have chronicled here, has long derided the British state and boasted that one day it would become an Islamic state. But in the meantime, can't the dirty kuffar help out a guy in trouble?
Now, now, Omar. Shouldn't you stay in Lebanon to help direct the jihad against the Zionist Entity?
"Banned cleric barred from rescue ship," from The Guardian, with thanks to all who sent this in:
Exiled radical Islamic preacher Omar Bakri was turned away from a Royal Navy ship evacuating Britons from war-torn Beirut, it emerged today.The Muslim cleric, who left Britain for Lebanon abruptly in August last year, tried to board a British ship yesterday. He also claimed he wrote to the British embassy asking to be allowed to back on "humanitarian grounds".
Is this guy for real????
What a coward, he calls for jihad then when the fighting starts he runs away from the fight. Crying like a little girl falling of her tricycle with a skimmed knee...
Thankfully England didn't allow him to board the ship....
:)
Blimey, a bit of back bone in Britain, what is the world coming too.
What an odious man playing this card to save his worthless skin: "I am appealing on behalf of my children who are worried and they want to see their own father. Do you want my little sons or my little family to come now to Lebanon? I don't think you want that."
So if you don't let me back in I will bring my familly over and if one gets killed its your fault, what a cowardly twat!
He said something to the effect of, why do you not want my children to see their father one last time?
Again, muslim males wimp out. Just like hiding behind women and children. I guess he's not ready for his multiple virgins and booze.
He wanted to live in an islamic state, he got it. Now that the heat is on, he wants out. Soon as he is back on infidel ground, he will start spewing his venom again. This is what all muslims are going to do once they start getting what they deserve after centuries of barbarity. They will appeal to the humanitarian standards that all infidel societies stand by, and, once they are forgiven, will be up to their self again to act against these very standards. This is what happened in my country, and I think that other cultures might have similar stories.
It is just this kind of arrogant Islamophobia and racism that causes most of the trouble in Britain. The continual abuse and humiliation suffered by innocent Muslims forces them to carry out such acts of desperation as the 7/7 bombings in a justified attempt to maintain their honor in a hostile land.
We can expect that there will be calls for the United States to waive visa requirements and grant Sheikh Bakri immediate asylum on compassionate grounds. His "little sons and little family" will of course be eligible for admission to the United States as well, as will the rest of his immediate family and all residents of his native village in Lebanon.
Britain's loss is our gain, and we welcome the increase in diversity that will result from Sheikh Bakri's residence in the United States.
Don't worry, be happy!
Islam is a religion of peace!
Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!
Allahu akbar!
Funny how this creep loves the comfortable life while spurring others on to do his terrorizing for him. I should think he would be the first to practice what he preaches and pick up a gun on behalf of Hizballah.
"Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!"
Posted by: Norseman
Hey Norseman I hope your chrystal ball has a big crack in it and this vermin doesn't make it to the USA due to some government blunder.
However, as up set with the President's lack, in my opinion, of understanding our enemy, what politician would be doing a better job in the current situation?
RD
The Great and Powerful Oz .. I mean Allah .. does not wish the brother harm at this time. He has mich good deeds (murder, torture, rape, etc .. you get the point) to do before succumbing to the haram in the sky.
I'll bet "Rumpled-Professor"-Rumplestilskin fells pretty much the same way now. Free speech (the unlimited right to reason) is rare where Muslim clerics are present. The clerics and Islamists generally have to be very insecure (and therefore very controling people) in Submission culture.
God gave us a mind to reason and to sometimes see absurdity-to laugh at our human contradictions. The free mind is a gift from God. Submission culture is fearful of reason and humor-even of cartoons. It's all about control in Submission...what a waste of creative energy....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/find_out/guides/world/middle_east/newsid_3571000/3571617.stm
bbc explanation of suicide bombing on their kids news sections.
spot the missing word.
hint: it begins with an "I"
This is just a wake up call for the poor palestinians and lebanese, no one cares. Western governments are evacuating their own citizens; we could care less about yours. Where are all the rich Arabs? Why are they ignoring you? All the years of propaganda and then they turn their backs. Poop pitiful palestinians, Israel tried to play nice but you wanted jihad. Your own clerics care more about saving themselves than tending to the flocks. If this happened in the states our non muslim clerics would never even consider leaving, they might send their kids to safety but they would stay to help. So no body cares about you, you now know you are alone. Get out there and jihad here is your chance, build a rocket stand on a tall building and face Israel.
This is killing CNN they are trying hard to play the poor children caught in the middle card but we don’t buy into it. Every picture we westerners have ever seen of a palestinian child it was armed and wearing a hezbollah headband. I know enough about urban warfare to realize the Israelis are holding back, I don’t understand why but they are. You clowns want this to stop it takes two words “we surrender.” Take what is left of your government and end this, allow the Israeli’s to round up all your rocket happy countrymen and you can start rebuilding, hopefully without one US dollar to help.
Ot: What happened to Denmark does anyone know if their economy was really affected by the arab boycotts? How are they doing now?
I'll say one nice thing to the Brits, since we've all been busy writing you off the last few weeks: There's hope for you.
He wants to see his kids one last time? Send wives and kids to Lebanon. I'm sure the Israelis will be happy to accomodate him.
Why isn't he fighting alongside Hizbullah? Let me guess - they are Rafidite dogs?
He also claimed he wrote to the British embassy asking to be allowed to back on "humanitarian grounds".
Now, what was that he said after the London bombings?
Oh yes.
Actually, I would have let him on the ship --"humanitarian grounds" after all -- and then given him free swimming lessons somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
I also hope Norseman's crystal ball is cracked, we'll see.
He says he wants to come in to see his foul family. Well let him see his foul family, drop them off over his flat, from 45 thousand feet, without parachutes, wrapped in pig skins! >:)
If Bakri comes back to Britian the non functioning government will be powerless to stop him as they don't know how many illegal immigrants are in the country, who they are or how much TATP they have.
This government likes to abuse the anti terrorist laws by arresting people like Walter Wolfgang, yet they don't bother about the real terrorists. That is because those from the PM down are accepting bribes in return for peerages, and covering up criminal activities namely stopping senior ministers being investigated by Operation Ore.
Bakri will not be safe if he gets to Britian, and it won't be the police he has to watch out for.
arjun.sevak-
Re: :)
That's truly perfect communication re your thoughts on the matter. The mind relly is a spiritual thing and not just matter.
If Bakri did have a passport, even a fake one the UK governemnt could not have stopped him...
Apparently when they put legislation in place to introduce snooping ID cards to keep tabs on the law abiding majority (they will still kow tow to Muslims) they repealed legislation that made it illegal to hold a fake passport!!!
The British government are total idiots!
Look.
http://www.gatago.com/uk/gov/social-security/18997921.html
"According to Criminal Law Week, the forged-passport fiasco arose when
the new ID Cards Act gained Royal Assent in March. A clause in the Act,
which gives the Government the power to go ahead with its ID cards
scheme, repealed an important section of the 25-year-old law banning
fake passports - the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981.
Nobody at the Home Office seems to have spotted that the Act charged
ahead with scrapping old laws, without bothering to put any new ones in
their place.
Because of all the confusion, a court case involving two men who are
said to have been caught with forged passports has already had to be
adjourned.
You could argue, I suppose, that it doesn't really matter if a British
passport is forged, at a time when the Home Office is dishing out the
genuine articles to all and sundry, whether they are entitled to them
or not."
It seems they never fail to fail. And set new lows. How pathetic.
How this culture ever expanded as far as it did is beyond me. The cause, I suppose was the parity in killing power at the time and the lack of organization in other cultures around the time of Roman dissolution. That and the fact that the culture destroys any inate conscience a muslim may have been born with.
They need to have their noses thrust into the rubble of their mosques. When being a muslim has greater stigma than being a smoker we'll be getting somewhere. Most of the people will abandon it if we can shock them into it and break the cycle of abuse & indoctrination for a generation.
We need to define the problem and get started on all fronts before some of the true believers start the conflagration for their judgement day.
Here is where an 'emoticon' is warranted... ROFLMAO!
Why did allah abandon them? To hear them tell it the entire muslim world is under attack. I tend to agree with that but I also add we are just warming up.
What I dont understand is why wasnt he arrested?!
arjun.sevak- :) :) :)
perhaps if he promises to swear on the Israeli flag promise not to say bad things, swear onto allha muhammud.. and then cut his beard off, take off that turbin, and no more pj's.. then maybe the Brits can send him to Iran as a big joke! yes the usual muslim cleric who like to stir the pot, and sit back in luxury, just like the multi billionaire oil shieks who like to spread their wealth to the poor Arab children caught up in this war.. where are they.. silience... need we say more?
From an interview given LAST WEEK by bakri :-
Q) "Do you think about going back to the United Kingdom?"
A) "No... It is religiously prohibited for people like me to return to the United Kingdom, because this would fall within the framework of offering oneself as captive. Islam prohibits Muslims from allowing themselves to become captives of nonbelievers."
We need to learn a lesson from this (muslims included)that people like this are happy for YOU to die and be killed in the name of Allah, they just don't hold to the same rules for themselves.
Infidel Pride-
"I'll say one nice thing to the Brits, since we've all been busy writing you off the last few weeks: There's hope for you."
Cheers mate!.
Witness-
"free swimming lessons somewhere in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean"
Or perhaps even a free parachute lesson somewhere over Syria. They'd like a little word with him about a little bit of trouble back in 1982.
I only have to say one thing I hope he enjoys his holiday. knowing this is certainly making mine a lot better, in fact I think I will celebrate with a bottle of wine tonight and a good cigar. Thank you Britain, the country of my birth you have certainly made my day.
ROFLMAO!
Muslims like Bakri are great ambassadors for Islam.
Great to see it spread all over the front page of the Sun.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,31-2006330568,,00.html
Freewoman wrote:
"Again, muslim males wimp out. Just like hiding behind women and children. I guess he's not ready for his multiple virgins and booze."
Like all pious muslim 'clerics', he asked himself 'what would mohammud do?' Giving up your life for allah is what you tell your followers to do, not what you do yourself. Because you know that if there is a God, a real God, and not your made-up one, the afterlife might not be so peasant for you.
From a poster on LGF
Bakri's family is still in UK still living off the UK state.
IF he is refused entry I predict that his family will sue under the European Human Rights Act under denial of right to a family life.
As they are on benefits the lawyers will be paid for under Legal Aid (ie by the UK state) and the lawyer will likely be Cherie Blair herself or a member of her chambers.
And I predict we will be told to let him back in by the European court.
That is how fucked up the UK is.
You read it here first.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21667#c0047
Bakri has a wife, or who knows wives, 6 children, all living in London in a detached house + mod cons and an expensive car provided by the state.
Tony Blair's New Labour has given away Britain to the Islamonazis.
Infidel pride posted : He wants to see his kids one last time? Send wives and kids to Lebanon. I'm sure the Israelis will be happy to accomodate him.
"Speaking to the BBC Radio 4 Today programme by mobile phone from Beirut, Mr Bakri said: "I am not appealing now against the decision to give me the right to stay in Britain. I am not appealing for that.
"I am appealing on behalf of my children who are worried and they want to see their own father. Do you want my little sons or my little family to come now to Lebanon? I don't think you want that."
I think his wife will be off to see Cheri Blair asap. As if enough tax payers money was not being spent on this family, and on on terrorism security, we will have to pay more inflated legal fees.
Ronin posted: Why did allah abandon them?
It is the nature of the Devil to deceive and then betray.
DP111, this cleric's wife may feel she has died and gone to heaven with him gone and being supported with welfare. She doesn't have to worry about burning the biscuits or being beaten and abused. She's probably pretty happy coming and going as she pleases, dress the way she wants and doesn't have to put up with this guy's crap. She may be thinking , who needs to put up with a husband when the state supports me.
Mike_W, DaveMate
WE are now going to fund maddrasas.
http://uppompeii.blogspot.com/
DP111 the last time the British politicians got out of control we sent them home and declared ourselves free. I don’t know where you guys can send them but for your sake you had best hurry it up.
freewoman
You are right. She probably is dreading at the thought that Bakri may come back, and the beating starts.
She must also be under considerable pressure from the peace loving islamic community, to appeal to the courts. All good jihad, and publicity in the cause of islam.
I estimate that it is costing us about £100bn to keep muslims in the UK.
I estimate that it is costing us about £100bn per year, to keep muslims in the UK.
Not much to say however one word immediatly came to mind when I first heard this story - Pussy!!!!
Ronin
Politicians have limited ability to get a job in any sector except politics. There is no real requirement anywhere for foreign politicians.
I would much rather see a policy of repatriation of muslims back to their lands. The UK is a constitutional monarchy, and it is possible to banish a complete group of people if they are a threat to the realm. It has been done before, and as you know, no laws in the UK are ever withdrawn from the statute books, and they go back a 1000 years. We may have to leave the EU to do that, but that can be done in one act of parliament. I was told by a friend, that accession of the UK to the EU is in violation of the Act of Settlement, and is thus void.
"Tony Blair's New Labour"
As much as I never thought I'd say this, but when do we get a political party with the balls to reignite "Old fashioned Thatcherism".
The woman had some bloody awful policies, but at least British sovereignty was important to her.
I thought muslims "love death" and we "love Pepsi".
Ha, when the real shooting starts, they cry like little girls. Don't you trust allah?
All our countries have to do is connect the dots. Muslims set up bases (mosques), plot, plan and sometimes execute those plans from their bases.
Islam is a military force and not a religion. How many Baptists or Penecostal's do you see threatening to behead or rape or sport suicide belts? None. Because they ARE a religion.
Our leaders need to pull their heads out of the sand and understand what's going on.
"Do you want my little sons or my little family to come now to Lebanon? I don't think you want that."
You are right about one thing. You do not think at all omar!
"He was granted political asylum in the UK in the 1980s because of his involvement with Islamist groups opposed to the secular government of Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad."
Anyone still wondering why we are where we are in the west today?
Insanity.
"Rescue me, Infidels."
-- Omar Bakri, who preached death to those Infidels, and the seizure of power by Muslims, while he was generously supported (hundreds of thousands of Infidel taxpayers's pounds) in Great Britain
"Rescue me, Infidels" is a common cry. "Rescue me, Infidels" screamed Arafat, and the PLO, in Beirut, when under siege by the Israelis in 1982, and the rescue came. "Rescue me, Infidels" is what, in essence, that grand strategist, that pipsqueak Metternich, that tinpot Machiavelli, that shameless profiteer who gave his name, and takes his money (and supplementing it, of course, from such consulting arrangments as that he had with Mr. Greenberg of Bear Stearns -- Wall Street is full of very rich, and very impressionable people who love celebrities of the high-toned, presumably "well-informed" kind, and what Barbara Walters has learned from Henry Kissinger, and breathlessly recounted to -- oh, I don't know, Brooke Astor, or Charlie Rose, or somebody -- is what passes for knowledge of the world (yes, what Henry Kissinger portentously delivers himself of is what passes for knowledge of the Great World -- unless of course you prefer the vaporings of Friedman or Kristof)-=- heeded the call, and put so much pressure that the encircled Egyptian Third Army was saved.
"Rescue me, Infidels" was the cry, in essence, of others as well. It is what all those Shi'as in exile wanted, and they knew just how to play on those tough-minded innnocents -- Wolfowitz among them -- who knew nothing of Islam, and to this day still do not understand what was wrong wqith their calculations, as they helped to insure the American invasion of Iraq that would, in turn, insure that the Shi'a would now forever control the oil in the south, the govenment in the north, and to hell, in the end, with the Sunnis if they refused to accept this new dispensaation.
"Rescue me, Infidels" say the Muslims wherever they need money, or aid. They know where to go for it, they know who will keep helping them, keep paying them (keep paying them so automatically that the foreign aid from Infidels is now indistinguishable, in the fierce sense of entitlement that the Arabs and Muslims feel, and the inability, driven by fear of "what will happen" (i.e., what the Muslims might do), of the Infidel donors to lessen, except in the most extreme cases, the level of their donations or, as they should be doing, to stop the transfer of Infidel wealth to the well-endowed umma al-islamiyya, whose rich members are perfectly capable of supplying all the aid needed to the poorer members). It was not any Arab or Muslim aid from fellow Muslims that rescued the people of Aceh after the tsunami. It was the American military, with its prompt delivery of food, medicine, water, tents, in short, everything =including field hospitals. Were hearts won, were minds, forever and ever, as some so confidently predicted? A very few hearts, one or two hundred or even thousand minds. But not forever. All it takes is a single incident, and we are bakc again: the Infidels must be blamed, the Infidels must be treated as the enemy, the Infidels of course are the enemey, the permanent enemy, no matter how deceptively kind they may be.
"Rescue me, Infidels" was what the Pakistanis said too, after the earthquake. And again, the Americans came rushign in, and those field hospitals they set up have now been treated as permanent facilities by the Pakistanis, there to treat them for all kinds of ailments, and theirs by right. No one asks, in the Pakistani press, why it is always and everywhere the Americans, and the Europeans, and the Australians, who come to the aid of Muslims. Oh, and who remembers that during the Istanbul earthquake a few years ago, it was the Israelis who sent their experienced rescue teams, and their sniffer dogs, and all the rest -- and for a brief while, it seemed to win some hearts and some minds, or at least, much was made of it. Of course, the hearts and minds that were won were those of the secular Turks whose minds and hearts had already been prepared to be won, because Islam had been put, by 75 years of Kemalism, in its place. And so the real Believers had to shut temporarily up. But did it work? Were the effects long=lassting? Not at all. The hostiliy to Israel, the blatant antisemitism of much of the Turkish popullation that has been whipped up by movies and the spectacular success of the reprint of "Mein Kampf," has caused the goodwill that the Israelis had every right to expect would continue, to disappear. And of course the exact same thing has happened in Aceh with the Americans, save for an articulate handful of locals. And the same thing has happened in Pakistan. And the same thing will happen, again, and again, whenever there is a natural disaster or anything else, happening to Muslims.
They know their fellow Muslims will, at most, donate a ludicrous sum. Saudi Arabia might come up with $50 million or $100 million -- that is, mnight come up with what it receives, from oil reveneus, in a morning or an afternoon. Or perhaps it will, astoundingly, unbelievably, announce some grand donation of, say, $1 billion -- a whole day's revenue. Of course, after the announcement, the money never ever comes through in the amounts promised. And the same is true for those announced donations by Kuwait, by the U.A.E, by all the sheiklets of the Gulf. They will spend fortuens on arms, they will donate to the world-wide Jihad (just look at what the financing of mosques, clerics, and madrasas has done to make the real Islam supplant everywhere, as in West Africa or Indonesia, whatever more syncretistic or less hate-filled version of Islam, its emphasis only on the rituals of the Five Pillars and not on a fierce, almost robotic adherence, to all the rules of this system of Total Regulation of LIfe that is Islam, and of course to encourage Muslim hatred and distancing from Infidels, beginning with their non-Muslim fellows, or those in neighboring countries. One has only to see what has happened in Niger -- uranium-bearing Niger -- over the past ten years, where the hijab has appeared everywhere, and the dourest sort of Islam has stamped out the local, not terribly orthodox version, or at Indonesia, where secular Sukarno once held power, and where easygoing Wahid once headed the largest Muslim group, but now a fiercer Islam, with Arab money and inspiration and missionaries behind it, threatens the remaining Hindus on Bali, and the Christians everywhere, especially in the Moluccas, are under assault. This is what that Saudi and other Arab money has led to, and is still allowed to inject its venom everywhere.
"Rescue me, Infidels." That is what the most vicious of the Lebanese, who think that they are blameless, that they are innocent, that it is perfectly alright to set up an entire army (for that is what Hezbollah is - the Army of God), to allow it and it alone among the "milititas" to remain not only armed, but to continue to receive vast quantities ofarms, so vast that the number of missiles supplied by Iran and Syria to Hezbollah certainly is larger than the total number of missiles in the armorories of most of the world's countries, including some in Europe.
"Rescue me, Infidels." Rescue me from everything. Rescue me from the fruits of my own aggression -- the aggression, say, of 1948, when five Arab armies (no "Palestinian people" then) tried to snuff out the life of the nascent state of Israel. "Rescue me, Infidels" said Nasser, and Eisenhower obliged, forcing the Israelis to give up the Sinai in 1956, territory from which the Egyptian fedayin had launched nearly 20,000- separate attacks on the farmers of southern Israel. "Rescue me, Infidels" say the Arabs again and again and again.
"Rescue me, Infidels." In Iraq, it is open seaon on Infidels. It is they, apparently, who have caused Sunni and Shi'a strife. Nothing to do with Islam itself, since the very first century of its existence. Nothing to do with all those battles, or that long persecution of Shi'a by Sunins, that led the Shi'a, in the first place, to promulgate the doctrine of religiously-sanctioned dissimulation about the faith that Shi'a found necessary to avoid being killed by
Sunnis (just as today, in Iraq, Shi'a show identity cards with a Sunni identity, and Sunins do the same, in reverse) -- the doctrine now well-established in all of Islam, and that we know as Taqiyya. When "taqiyya" was invented, there were no Infidels about -- it was invented to deal with the violence of the Sunni Muslims. Yet, in Iraq, word is getting around that the Infidels caused the problem.
Well, of course they didn't, any more than "Infidels" force the Sunni terrorist groups Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and Sipaha-e-Sahaba in Pakistan to go out and kill Shi'a professionals and bomb Shi'a mosques. Nor have Infidels been exactly busy forcing the Sunni ruler of Bahrain to maintain his tight control over a Shi'a population. Nor have Infidels forced the Saudis to mistreat their Shi'a population, or to inculcate the populace with the belief that Shi'a are not real Muslims, are Infidels -- the same charge made by Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi when he called the Shi'a "Rafidite dogs" who deserved, as Infidels, to be slaughtered.
But that is so easy to overlook. When you want to blame someone, Muslims will always and everywhere blame the Infidels. There are many stupid Infidels, just waiting to accept blame for something. And many of the same people who wanted American forces to get out of Iraq becaue they did not understand what was going on, and simply wanted to do the bidding of Islamic forces, are now beginning to change their tune, and insisting that Americans "owe" it to the Iraqis to stay, and to prevent civil war. What nonsense, what predictable nonsense (it was predicted, all of it, right here at JW, over the past 2 1/2 years. Not a single thing that has occurred in Iraq was not discussed, ad nauseam, here, many months or years before it happened).
The sectarian violence can be "blamed" on America only if you think that Saddam Hussein's mass-murdering regime should have remained in place, to keep the Shi'a down. Perhaps it should have -- though with the Kurds it is a different matter. They, unlike the Shi'a Arabs -- have another identity, an ethnic identity that plays against the other identity, Islam. And to the extent that a Muslim can find refuge and meaning in a non-Arab identity (being an Arab simply reinforces one's adhererence to, filial piety towards, Islam -- indeed, many Christian Arabs adopt the Muslim view of the world, for they find that over generations they have internalized their status as dhimmi, and come to see the world through their malevolent masters's eyes, and since Islam is so inextricably linked with Uruba, or Arab-ness, as "Arabs" they must stand up, some of them -- not the Maronites, not the Copts, but the "Palestinian" Christians in partiular -- for Islam and its goals.
Sectarian and ethnic divisions in Iraq would not and could not be healed, it was maintained and is still maintained here, even if the Americans did their damnedest, once the regime of Saddam Hussein was removed. The mistreeatment of the Shi'a, and their resentment of it, was not merely a thing of a few years, or even a few decades, but had its roots in a split going back to the first century of Islam, and the mistreatment of Shi'a, by contemptuous Sunnis, could be observed everywhere -- in Lebanon (where the Shi'a, once the poorest and most despised, have managed to increase their numbers -- that demographic weapon again---so that now it is they who are more numerous than the imperilled Christians, or the Druze (both groups having survived over the centuries by taking to the mountains of Lebanon, as the Alawites did in present-day Syria), in Kuwait (where they may make up one-quarter of the population), in Saudi Arabia, where they are concentrated in the oil-producing Eastern Province of Al-Hasa, and make up 10-15% of the total population; in Bahrain, where they make up 70-75% of the population, but ruled by a Sunni ruler and regime; in Pakistan, where the socioeconomic situation is reversed, and the 20% of the population that is Shi'a is wealthier, and more advanced, than the Sunnis but, of course, that does not make them any less despised by the Sunnis, just despised and envied at the same time, and in Yemen, where as always with that remote and primitive and hard-to-read place, the numbers of both sects are unclear and the intracommunal tensions as well.
"Rescue me, Infidels" is what the Shi'a cried to the Americans, and the Americans came, and toppled Saddam Hussein, and played Fifty-two Pickup with his collaborators, and put the Shi'a, through those ballyhooed, miscomprehended, blue-thumbed elections, in power, and that power was used by the Shi'a, as the Americans were very slow in understanding, to create a network, now undoable, of militias and agents infiltrated everywhere in the security services to turn the instruments of state power into, almost everywhere, the instruments of Shi'a power.
"Rescue me, Infidels" is, then, now being heard more and more from the Sunnis -- who do not want the Americans to leave, for fear of what other Muslims will do to them. Because they know what they will do to them. Just as members of Black September and the PLO, when King Hussein of Jordan attacked them, knew exactly what they could expect from fellow Muslims, and so quickly fled, for safety, across the River Jordan into the Promised Land, the Land of Israel where, they knew, those "bestial" Israelis would rescue them, rescue them. And of course the Israelis did.
"Rescue me, Infidels." Save me from what I will never dare to recognize as the cause of all my woes -- Islam itself. For it is Islam itself that encourages the habit of mental and other kinds of submission. It is Islam itself that locates the source of authority not in mere people, mere individuals, but only in Allah, and the Holy Law of Islam. A ruler needs to be obeyed -- as long as that ruler is a Muslim. It is Islam itself that explains how, despite the incredible riches of the umma al-islamiyya, the beneficiaries of the most fantastic transfer of wealth, all of it entirely unearned, in human history, no Arab or Muslim state has constructed anything like a real economy. Oh, a few are aided -- the American government, for example, has tried to help Jordan, giving it Most Favored Nation status, hoping that somehow it might have a real economy. And for their solicitude, and special favors, the Americans havee seen Arabs set up sweatshops that exploit, in the main, non-Arab workers, who are lured in, paid slave wages and often thrown out of the country with nothing at all. Outside investigators have declared conditions in these ruthlessly run Arab slave-labor camps to be the worst they have ever encountered. And then there is Pakistan, anoterh recipient of American largesse, of billions over decades in military aid. And what did Pakistan do with those billions? It supported Dr. A. Q. Khan in his successful effort to steal nuclear secrets from Dutch and German labs, and to come home and build bombs, and to offer help (help taken, by the way) to both Iran and North Korea, adn to offer, for sale, nuclear secrets to all kinds of other Muslim states. And it was Pakistan, being helped by those Americans, who supported decades of terorrist attacks in Kashmir and in India itself, it was the Pakistani army that killed millions in East Pakistan, in 1970-71, including many non-Muslims and Muslims deemed, becausee they supported an indepenedent Bangladesh, insufficiently loyal to Islam. It was Pakistan that gave birth to, that nurtured tenderly, that sent out into the world of Afghanistan those "students," the Taliban, who did what they did in Afghanistan, and Pakistan that protected and promoted the Taliban regime in every way.
Whatever the problem, whatever happens to Msulims from natural disasters, or the disasters they bring upon themselves -- no one forced Hezbollah, after Israel scrupulously withdrew from Lebanon, to receive and squirrel away in bunkers and in the midst of civilian streets, 12,000-15,000 missiles -- you will hear the cry,as we do today from Hezbollah and those in Lebanon who apparently were under the belief that they could permanently evade rsponsibility for allowing Hezbollah not merely to remain armed, but to arm itself beyond most national armies in the world, and to set up a vast network of caves and bunkers, and weaponry stored in ordinary houses all over south Beirut and Hezabollahland in southern Lebanon, and not be held to account when, as happened, the Israelis were finally and deliberately goaded -- but goaded, apparently, to a response that neither Iran nor Syria nor certainly Nasrallah himself, quite expected. Just as Nasser did not expect to lose that war in 1967, when he addrssed those hysterical crowds in
Cairo in mid-May and the weeks following. Just as Azzam Pasha, threatening in 1947 that the Arabs would unleash a war against the Jews that would make the "massacres of the Mongols" pale in bloody comparison.
"Rescue me, Infidels."
"Rescue me" from my own follies, from the despotism that Islam creates and encourages, from the economic disarray and paralysis that follows naturally from the inshallah-fatalism of Islam, from what the mistreatment of women, formalized and approved of in Islam, does to our societies, from the way in which the Muslim worldview, separating the world between Believer and Infidel, and requiring uncompromising hostility of the former for the latter, and demands the duty of Jihad, in its various and shifting instruments, to spread Islam so that "Islam will dominate" (as one of the placards at a pro-Hezbollah demonstration in New York so forthrightly put it) and Muslims will rule -- everywhere.
"Rescue me, Infidels."
Well, ha, ha, ha. NOW this guy realizes that Muslims aren't the only ones capable of slaying the infidels.
Too bad the Kuran never taught that the universe returns all venom spewed out back to the sender, as this guy might have reconsidered doing some of the things he did. But it's too late now...
We do right to keep the worthless and odious Bakri out. He hates Britain yet expects to be rescued by the very people he would love to see enslaved. Tough s*it Bakri, you're staying there, and if an Israeli bomb atomises you, then good riddance to unwanted scum.
Oh McGoo, you've done it again. Nice post Hugh...
Infidel Pride;
“I'll say one nice thing to the Brits, since we've all been busy writing you off the last few weeks: There's hope for you”.
???
“The Taleban’s use of human shields happened during a six-hour battle that began when British troops arrived in a remote area to flush out a suspected Taleban hideout”. Times Online.
“British forces in the southern Iraqi city of Basra said they conducted a large operation to search for weapons early on Tuesday, and Iraqi police said five Shi'ite militia fighters had been killed”. Reuters.
Do you think we are sat about doing bugger all like the French. If there is no hope for us then maybe you should replace our troops before we lose the war?
LMFAO!!!!!! I havn't laughed that hard in a long time :)
have never met a mo that wasn't a coward when faced, but turn your your back and they become very brave when you can not see them.
mos run when the fighting gets tough.
if bakri wasn't such a coward, he would face the Jews and the music being played.
Israel, destroy the pals and the hez for your own survival. America will not allow any country to interfer with your right of self defense.
God blessing do with you Israel as do the prayers of American.....
The Texican.
There is no humor is Islam.
--- the most sacred and revered Shiite cleric Ayatollah Ruhollah Musavi Khomeini
What? Of course these Moslems are a laugh riot! The image of this big mouth mufti jihadist dude being turned away from the Good Ship Lollipop is funny. I didn't piss my pants on this laugh-jag, but it was close. Allahu Akbar.
610 * 623 * 732* 1066* 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
When Eve became heavy with her first pregnancy, Satan came to her before she gave birth and said, ‘Eve, what is that in your womb?’ She said, “I do not know.” He asked, “Where will it come out from-your nose, your eye, or your ear?” She replied, “I do not know.”
See? Islam is a laugh riot. Haa. These guys are great.
A) "No... It is religiously prohibited for people like me to return to the United Kingdom, because this would fall within the framework of offering oneself as captive. Islam prohibits Muslims from allowing themselves to become captives of nonbelievers." –DaveMate quoting Bakri
So if Bakri was accidentally telling the truth here, he may have wanted to hang with the fringe elements that are just waiting to be radicalized before they get back to Britain. That is about all these false prophets are good for: to instigate and motivate to hate.
The fact is, the other passengers were probably at no risk whatsoever because as gallopinggranny and Infidel33 pointed out, he is merely the leader of terrorists not the explosive variety.
I am surprised that these brainwashing clerics have not claimed to have been suicide bombers in another life. Reincarnation, while rejected by Islam, could be a useful tool with which to inspire wanna-be jihadies. A cleric could even claim to have foregone the 72 black-eyed pre-teens this go around in order to get back to the Jihad. I guess if the Talmud would’ve included reincarnation then Mo would certainly have adopted it as well.
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“spot the missing word. hint: it begins with an "I" – Archduke
Surely you meant the deserving “Infidels”.
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Our “Clerics” usually stay in other countries as well and I would not be surprised to find out that they were the last to leave Lebanon if they leave at all.
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“Why isn't he fighting alongside Hizbullah?”-Infidel Pride
To reference one of Britain’s finest, the mullahs and clerics are “war pigs” in the truest sense of the word.
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“If Bakri comes back to Britain the non functioning government will be powerless to stop him as they don't know how many illegal immigrants are in the country, who they are or how much TATP they have.” – IceDragon
Speaking of “Mother of Satan”, Houston, and hollowed-out shoes at the airport…
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/article.php?storyid=427
Seems Houston may be turning into the next Norman, OK.
-XRDC
Fantastic, Hugh! I do believe it is becoming more obvious, very slowly, that Islam is the problem and not the solution. Maybe I'm just an optimist.
Send him to Indiana. We'll run a combine harvester over him...may cow droppings drip on his head.
I am utterly disappointed to read that most of you want this saint to rot and are not prepared to help this human being ? Don't be so selfish and inhuman. Israel started this war on the peace loving Hizbollah and you are watching from the sidelines - siding with the jews ?? Hellfire awaits you .... This saint deserves to be rescued and brought back to the Uk in a golden palaquin.
/sarcasm off
[ do you think that I am a leftist loony to wrtie the above words ??? ]
Just one small doubt left - Allah was telling me that Omar's 72 virgins kept hot and ready by Allah for Omar's pleasure will now be taken up by some other brave idiot. It will be a huge disappointment for the houries .... Surely Bakri wont like that - would he ???
Bastard ... let him rot. I sincerely hope the next bomb falls on him. When many innocents lost their lives on 7/7, this guy was laughing and praising the bombers. Now let him get a taste of live at the other end.
I am utterly disappointed to read that most of you want this saint to rot and are not prepared to help this human being ? Don't be so selfish and inhuman. Israel started this war on the peace loving Hizbollah and you are watching from the sidelines - siding with the jews ?? Hellfire awaits you .... This saint deserves to be rescued and brought back to the Uk in a golden palaquin.
/sarcasm off
[ do you think that I am a leftist loony to wrtie the above words ??? ]
Just one small doubt left - Allah was telling me that Omar's 72 virgins kept hot and ready by Allah for Omar's pleasure will now be taken up by some other brave idiot. It will be a huge disappointment for the houries .... Surely Bakri wont like that - would he ???
let him rot. I sincerely hope the next bomb falls on him. When many innocents lost their lives on 7/7, this guy was laughing and praising the bombers. Now let him get a taste of live at the other end.
Want to know what the Royal Navy think of him? I've had a chuckle reading www.rumration.co.uk in the current affairs forum. When I browsed the tabloid front pages it made my day to see the Tottenham ayatollah told to 'bugger off'. Believe me, there is a feeling of smugness here in the UK that he is getting what he deserves.
How sad!
I wonder if he worried about the little girls and boys who belonged to the parents of the 911 attacks and the 7/7 attacks.
The brits should have tossed him a ration of several bags of pork chitlins and squirted him with pig blood.
The "poor muslims" are being so persecuted. In America they all seem to get welfare and complain bitterly when they cannot get all their medications and food items free. Perhaps the good mufti needs some more of that infidel love to bolster his strength so he can preach from the comfort of the U.K. What a sad person. Perhaps when he martyrs himself he will get 70 old toothless women for his "reward." What kind of god would offer women as a reward to continue the mistreatment they receive. Oops! It must be his god, the one I do not recognize.
How many of those described as "Americans" being rescued by Marines are people who in their hearts support Hezbollah, and all of its works and days, including of course the bombing of the Marine Corps barracks in Beirut that killed 243 Marines?
After all, aside from some tourists, how many of those leaving Lebanon are visiting the Christian north, or the Druse areas, or the Christian or Sunni areas of Beirut? Possession of a passport is one thing; what one possess internally, as part of one's mental makeup, and which remains both undeclared and undetected, is quite another.
And the same is true for those described, a bit too quickly, as "British" and as "French." Were the five Muslims responsible for the 7/7 bombings "British" in any but the most fleeting and trivial sense? What about the "French" who are leaving Lebanon -- how many of them are those who are indeed French, and how many are possessors of French citizenship who support the vandalism and uprising in the banlieue and hope ardently for the continued and permanent islamization of France?
But think only of those Marines -- those who, yesterday and today and tomorrow -- may be helping back to the United States certain Shi'a Muslims who were delighted, 20 years ago, when the Marines were killed in Beirut, and no doubt, should the occasion arise, would be delighted again. One hopes at least some of those Marines, tempted possibly to be touched by the not-hard-to-imagine sob stories of some, will remember this, and keep their eyes, like their powder in days of yore, dry.
On second though the Goobs was right! Send him to Indiana or Iowa. He would make good food for the large swine farms.
Now dagnabbit, you're making me mad. I grew up in Hoosierland, went to IU for undergrad. And I'm in West Des Moines all the time on biz. But as a patriotic Dhimmi I insist that this business must go to my hog farm opreation, which may or may not be located somehwere in south central Kaintuck, or north central TN. Maybe.
Anecdotally, I've heard several of the Canadian* rescuees express direct explicit support for Hizballah. One young man, having arrived safely back in Canada, said he wanted to join Hizballah and take up arms.
*Canada has approximately 50,000 "citizens," "residents," etc., in Lebanon---many of them are not vacationers but have lived in Lebanon for years, and about 37,000 of them have applied to be evacuated from Lebanon and be brought back to Canada. It has been said that Canada is the world's largest hotel. This situation is not sustainable economically, nor on a security basis.
Carolyn2, Bakri loves Pepsi.
Archimedes
Probably not any more, since the Iranians have discovered that Pepsi stands for Pay Each Penny to Save Israel
HA HA HA HA!!!
*breathe*
HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
I think "bakri" means female goat in Hindi. How fitting for the ugly coward. If he is so devoted to his familyhe should have taken them along when he ran away in the first place. He should now send for them, so they can be all together.
Ha!
freetoBEfree,
'bakri' is not a Hindi word. It does mean a goat, but the word is arabic. The Hindi that is spoken contains a lot of persian and urdu. Pure Hindi you can find by reading literature, and history. The language is not called Hindi, but Devnagari. Another way of getting back. Cut out all that shero-shayari, get to speak Devnagari.
25000 'Indians' in Lebanon. muslim cleric in India says only 600 want to get back.
a. They are very well connected to get that number right.
b. I hope the Indian navy gets only 600 Hindus off Lebanon.
I just read that those ungreatful Lebanese
that just happened to have had the foresight to get a Canadian citizenship are abandoning their Democratic Government and shifting the onus to canada to feed and house them.
I say this because the media has revealed that all Lebanese/canadians that deplane will get Free Health care, housing, and up to $200'000.00
in settlement benefits.
THESE AREN'T REFUGEES,THEIR DUAL CITIZENS AND PRO-HEZBULLAH MUSLIMS. I've also hear stories from reporters that some people have no documentation and are assumed to be canadian because terrorist never lie...Right?
The common lie by Hezbullah friendly newcomers to canada is the a bomb blew-up their home and they have no ID or documents.
What the hell are we to do when the Jewish population in canada starts to get targeted by this Islamist suicide bombers that have no valid ID to trace them and the Arabs and Muslims then blame Canada for letting them in , just like CAIR did for the 9/11 attack that was a security issue because none of the hijackers were American-Muslims.
There is no way 50'000 Canadians were attending weddings in Lebanon, or spending money to vacation in a warm climate during our own summer heat waves.
Given the courage demonstrated by the British leadership in facing down Islamic terrorists, it is no wonder that the seditionist Bakri was denied boarding on the ship. I am certain that the government would insist that Bakri travel in first-class on a direct flight to London.
'bakri' is not a Hindi word.
Arjun, My family left India when I was a child, and I can barely speak/fully understand the language I thought was called "Hindi". I do admire your knowledge, and that of the other Indian posters here, regarding India, and am learning a lot.
Proud to be an American.
freetoBEfree,
I thought you were in India, so I pointed out the origin of the word. The Hindi that was spoken (I mean in the past) did contain a lot of persian, urdu, English words, too. The books of Hindi grammer identify the origins of foreign words. (They are classified as 'Videshi' words and the words that descend from Sanskrit are called as 'Deshaj' words. An example of an English Videshi word is 'Kanaster' which descended from 'Canister' in English, meaning being the same. The English language has some words from Hindi, as well as those of some other languages as well. Pure Hindi, that is spoken by the masses, is written in Devnagari script. It has no 'Videshi' words. (People who are anti jihad hate the urdu and persian, and ghazals and shers are fast going out of fashion.)
Thought you might be interested. :)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=396848&in_page_id=1770
"Wife pleads for Bakri's return"
"The wife of exiled radical preacher Omar Bakri has made her own appeal for him to be rescued from Lebanon, saying Tony Blair would have "blood on his hands" if he was hurt in the conflict."
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"She added that her husband was "suffering" in Lebanon and needed a heart operation because the situation was "very stressful"."
Poor little dear, I'm sure our hearts bleed with sympathy. Now if only I could find my violin I'd be playing hearts and flowers for you.
No....Hang on.....I've checked my conscience and even all my pockets and I don't seem to be able to locate that sympathy.....And I just remembered I don't play violin.
All UK citizens that support what Israel is doing...
from BBC online regarding protests - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5203450.stm
"Meanwhile, a rally to show solidarity with people in northern Israel - areas of which have been hit by Hezbollah rockets - is being held on Sunday by the Board of Deputies of British Jews".
I hope that many of you will make a strong effort to attend this event AND that you will bring along many others to help support Israel. Busloads would be good.
The UK and the world need to see that there are people who believe in what Israel is doing. It's time for another voice in the UK to be heard....other than the pro-terrorism ragheads and 'champagne socialists'.
From the Daily Mail (Sat July 22nd)
Tea with Bakri (and a sermon on tolerance)
Yesterday I was invited by Bakri to take tea with him at his new apartment home in the pretty village of Harat al Naame, on the coast south of Beirut.
Would he not care to stay in Lebanon and martyr himself in this new jihad against the cursed Jews, as he had persuaded so many others to do, I asked.
He assumed a saintly expression of pure hypocrisy. "I would like a ceasefire and for people to live in peace. What has this conflict to do with me?"
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Arjun,
Thank you! I am most definitely anti jihad/ muslim.
Arjun
Devanagiri is the Sanskrit scipt - common to Hindi, Nepali and Marathi. I've never heard of Hindi - one of several derivatives of Sanskrit - being called Devanagiri, even though it uses the script, and the reason, from the above, is obvious.
What you are describing is 'Shudh Hindi' - spoken in Rajasthan, Himachal, Uttaranchal and MP, but not in UP or Bihar. Of course, the neither of the words 'Hindi' or 'Hindu' never existed in Sanskrit, but that doesn't mean Hindi is Urdu written in Devanagiri.
Back to the original point, is paTTha the hindi for goat?
Infidel Pride,
It is called as Devnagari, even though technically it refers to the script. The argument here is that since the script is Devnagari, the spoken can be safely called as such.
Shudh Hindi, you are right, it is spoken in these states, but there are more states where it is spoken. For example, we have people coming from Gujarat, they speak Gujarati, but while they are here in M.P., they will speak pure Hindi, with no mixture of urdu or persian words. Same with Rajasthan.
pattha would be slang Hindi for goat.
You know, Hinglish is more popular than the persian variety of Hindi. Everyone understands Hinglish. 'Bole to' , 'Cool', 'What goes', 'Jhakaas', and of course, 'Watt' these are the 'in' words nowadays.