Andrew G. Bostom in FrontPage exposes some of the roots of the deeply ingrained hatred of Jews among all too many Muslims (news links in the original):
The ongoing violence in Lebanon and northern Israel, engendered by Hezbollah’s toxic amalgam of jihad and Jew hatred, reached Seattle, Washington this past Friday July, 28, 2006, just after 4 PM, local time. Naveed Afzal Haq, a Pakistani Muslim, hiding in the foyer of the entrance to the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle, seized a 13-year old girl hostage. With a gun pointed to the young girl’s head, Haq forced his way through the buildings security door, and then opened fire with two semi-automatic pistols, killing a 58 year old woman, and wounding five other women, three of whom were wounded seriously. Haq reportedly exclaimed: “I am a Muslim American, angry at Israel” ...These are Jews and I'm tired of getting pushed around and our people getting pushed around by the situation in the Middle East.”Earlier the same day, a triumphal pronouncement from Hezbollah accompanied the launching of so-called “Khaybar-1” rockets, five of which reached Afula, south of Haifa, and 30 miles from the Israeli-Lebanese border. A Hezbollah statement proclaimed, “With this, the Islamic Resistance begins a new stage of fighting, challenge and confrontation with a strong determination and full belief in God's victory”. Throughout the preceding week, Al-Manar television and Al-Nur radio—Hezbollah-controlled media outlets which disseminate its propaganda—blared out in sonorous tones, “Nastarjiu Khaybar”—“We will return to Khaybar”.
These disparate events, occurring thousands of miles apart—the attack upon Jews in Seattle, and the firing of “Khaybar-1” rockets at Afula—reflect and celebrate the predatory relationship—Muslims preying upon Jews—established by Islam’s prophet Muhammad, and his earliest Muslim followers.The late Muslim scholar Ali Dashti (d. 1984) wrote a biography of Muhammad entitled Twenty-three Years: A Study of the Prophetic Career of Mohammad. Dashti chronicles Muhammad’s “changed course” at Medina, where the Muslim prophet begins to “issue orders for war” in multiple and repeated Koranic revelations (sura [chapter] 9 being composed almost entirely of such war proclamations, for example). Prior to enumerating the multiple assassinations Muhammad ordered, Ali Dashti observes:
Thus Islam was gradually transformed from a purely spiritual mission into a militant and punitive organization whose progress depended on booty from raids and [tax] revenue….The Prophet’s steps in the decade after the hejra [emigration from Mecca to Medina] were directed to the end of establishing and consolidating a religion-based state. Some of the deeds done on his command [were] killings of prisoners and political assassinations…Muhammad’s failures or incomplete successes were consistently recompensed by murderous attacks on the Jews. Thus Muhammad developed a penchant for assassinating individual Jews, and destroying Jewish communities—by expropriation and expulsion (Banu Quaynuqa and Nadir), or massacring their men, and enslaving their women and children (Banu Qurayza). Subsequently, in the case of the Khaybar Jews, Muhammad had the male leadership killed, and plundered their riches. The terrorized Khaybar survivors—industrious Jewish farmers—became prototype subjugated dhimmis whose productivity was extracted by the Muslims as a form of permanent booty. And according to the Muslim sources, even this tenuous vassalage was arbitrarily terminated within a decade of Muhammad’s death when Caliph Umar expelled the Jews of Khaybar (after whom the Khaybar-1 rockets were of course named).
Muhammad’s brutal conquest and subjugation of the Khaybar Jews, and their subsequent expulsion by one of his companions, the (second) “Rightly Guided” Caliph Umar, epitomize permanent, archetypal behavior patterns Islamic Law deemed appropriate to Muslim interactions with Jews. As the scholar George Vajda has observed, the theological-juridical, and historical consequences of these archetypes, resulted, at best, in the Jews being dhimmis “subject to Muslim domination”, and treated “with contempt”, under “humiliating arrangements”. When the Jews were perceived as having exceeded the rightful bounds of this subjected relationship, as in mythically “tolerant” Muslim Spain, the results were predictably tragic. The Granadan Jewish viziers Samuel Ibn Naghrela, and his son Joseph, who protected the Jewish community, were both assassinated between 1056 to 1066, and in the aftermath, the Jewish population was annihilated by the local Muslims. It is estimated that up to five thousand Jews perished in the pogrom by Muslims that accompanied the 1066 assassination. This figure equals or exceeds the number of Jews reportedly killed by the Crusaders during their pillage of the Rhineland, some thirty years later, at the outset of the First Crusade. The inciting “rationale” for this Granadan pogrom is made clear in the bitter anti-Jewish ode of Abu Ishaq, a well-known Muslim jurist and poet of the times, who wrote:
Bring them down to their place and return them to the most abject station. They used to roam around us in tatters covered with contempt, humiliation, and scorn. They used to rummage amongst the dung heaps for a bit of a filthy rag to serve as a shroud for a man to be buried in...Do not consider that killing them is treachery. Nay, it would be treachery to leave them scoffing.[The translator then summarizes, appropriately: “The Jews have broken their covenant (i.e., overstepped their station, with reference to the Covenant of Umar) and compunction would be out of place.”]There have been ceaseless calls for jihad against the Jews in Palestine during modern times, since shortly after the Balfour Declaration in 1918, intensifying following Israel’s creation in 1948, through the present era. Jihad has remained the primary cause of the conflict between the global Islamic umma—Arab and larger non-Arab Muslim communities alike—and the Jewish state of Israel. Israeli Jews are regarded as merely a religious community, whose rightful place is under Islamic suzerainty as dhimmis. Thus as historian Bat Ye’or has explained, Israel’s national patrimony,
a geographical territory related to a past history, a system of legislation, a specific language and culture—[is]consequently denied. The “Arab” character of the Palestinian territory is inherent in the logic of jihad. Having become fay territory by conquest (i.e. “taken from an infidel people” by jihad), it must remain within the dar al-Islam. The State of Israel, established on this fay territory, is consequently illegal.Accordingly, the source of the endless annihilationist animus against Israel—an unabashed Jewish state among the otherwise monolithically Islamic nations of the Middle East—becomes clear. Bat Ye’or elucidates:
Israel represents the successful national liberation of a dhimmi civilization. On a territory formerly Arabized by the jihad and the dhimma, a pre-Islamic language, culture, topographical geography, and national institutions have been restored to life. This reversed the process of centuries in which the cultural, social and political structures of the indigenous population of Palestine were destroyed.To this day, the overwhelming majority of the global Muslim community, most notably Arab Muslims, refuses, as Bruce Thornton described so aptly,
…to recognize a legitimate state created by the same historical process that created their own nations, and their continuing failure to recognize Israel in deeds rather than in words, [is] the root cause of the ongoing crisisThese sentiments were confirmed at the 2003 Putrajaya Islamic Summit, when former Malaysian Prime Minister Dr Mahathir Muhammad refused to acknowledge Israel’s legitimacy, but did discuss “Jews”. Mahathir’s bellicose statement, below, was met by thunderous applause from all the Muslim leaders present, including our man in (then just liberated) Afghanistan, Hamid Karzai:
To begin with, the governments of all the Muslim countries can close ranks and have a common stand if not on all issues, at least on some major ones, such as on Palestine... We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships...We may want to recreate the first century of the Hijrah, the way of life in those times, in order to practice what we think to be the true Islamic way of life l.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews. There must be a way. And we can only find a way if we stop to think, to assess our weaknesses and our strength, to plan, to strategize and then to counter-attack. As Muslims, we must seek guidance from the Al-Qur’an and the Sunnah of the Prophet. Surely the 23 years struggle of the Prophet can provide us with some guidance as to what we can and should do...Assiduous documentation by Daniel Pipes (here, and here) underscores how Israel’s stubborn resistance to its annihilation appears to have fomented multiple acts of Muslim violence against the non-Israeli Jewish diaspora population during the past 15 years. The murderous attack on the Jewish Federation of Greater Seattle by Naveed Afzal Haq merely continues this alarming trend.
Notwithstanding that he may never have encountered an actual Jew, the 17th century Indian Sufi jurist Sirhindi (d. 1621) expressed an (archetypal) sentiment, whose ultimate origins can be traced to the sacralized behaviors of the Muslim prophet Muhammad himself. Sirhindi wrote:
Whenever a Jew is killed, it is for the benefit of Islam.Sadly, this ugly belief retains widespread legitimacy amongst contemporary Muslims.
When will our government really understand what a hate crime is in America?
When will our government really understand what a terroristic attack is in America?
When will America become like palestian??
"There are hateful and violent adherents of every religion..........."?
Ummhmmmm....I can remember having problems with those pesky Baptists while I was picking cotton in my youth. Everytime we dragged in a bag of cotton, those pesky Baptists would be taking potshots at us. They would be preaching Kill the infidels (since we weren't Baptists ourselves) and we didn't do anything about it because, of course, they would sue the worn out holy shoes off us had we complained. Then , as I entered first grade, it was the belligerent Budda's on the playground. UmmHmmm. They didn't like the fact we were infidels and they bullied us. BULLIED us I say. Of course , we didn't say anything because they would have sue the tosack dress off our backs. As I got into high school it got worse. Those loudmouth Lutherans would try to cover our hairdo's so their males wouldn't get excited over our behives. We didn't complain again, because not only would they sue us, they'd beat us up......
Do you get how silly that sounded? Islam is the only religion in the world that wants to KILL every other religion in the world. Don't use taquiya on us, Perla....we don't fall for it.
When Bush called the war "Operation Crusade", there was an out rage amongst the Muslims. So we backed down.
Now, Hizbullah, call to return to Khaybar and name the rocket Khaybar1, no one make a squeek.
What the hell is going on with the great democracy?
Oh, I can see why prophet Denial prophesied it as the kingdom of clay. It's so shity weak.
Hot News:
Largest and most frequented anti-jihad blog's (Politically Incorrect) author threatened with murder!!!
In German only so far, but this gives the situation over here (Germany) a new dire quality.
http://myblog.de/politicallyincorrect/art/4091545/#comm
Perla,
There is one big difference. What religion promotes war as part of its teachings? The above article should really give the answer.
slightly OT
Just saw OBSESSION entirely online. Excellent to pass on to your doubting friends though the appeal to the 'vast majority of peace-loving Muslims' may be wishful thinking.
The parallels drawn with Nazi Germany are at the heart of the documentary and are the organizing idea. These parallels are inescapable. I especially liked the man who was a former Hitler Youth and knows whereof he speaks.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614&q=Obsession%3A+What+The+War+on+Terror+Is+Really+About&hl=en
for another Nazi/Islam connection--Go to the History Channel website and check out the episode entitled " Sadaam and the Third Reich", you will see that it was the Muslims who influenced Eichman and cronies to exterminate the Jews and who, by the way, helped design the concentration death camps.
The Muslims acutally wanted Germany to deport the Jews to the MiddleEast where the Muslims would attack and kill them.
The Muslims involved were uncles of Sadaam Hussein and founders of the Baath Party.
It is the Muslims who wanted the Jews dead and who influenced the Germans greatly.
Muslims want Jews dead no matter where they are found. This business about killing them because they are in Israel is a bunch of bs.
This is just the beginning of what is yet to come. There is an old saying in India " feeding the snake".
Be aware, we should get ready to face islamists sooner. These scums will kill anybody.
There is an old ME saying :
"First the Saturday people ( the Jewish People ), after that, the Sunday people ( the Christians ) ".
I can also add, after that any non observant Friday people ( non faith Muslims, those who left Islam, and those Muslims who are not "true Muslims ), and all other non-Muslims.
This is the facts on the ground.
What would be the Western equivalent of a fawtaw against the devils who are leading the rest of the devils?
What would be the Western equivalent of a fawtaw against the devils who are leading the rest of the devils?...........posted by squire
Open Season.
Nukes in Iran for the "Western Front", nukes in Pakistan for the "Eastern Front"..
the last nazi maniacs who tried this approach were totally oblitred.
make that "obliterated", anihilated, destroyed...
I used to work for an Israeli software company in the United States. All the employees in my development center (including our families) got to go on a 'nofesh' which in the U.S. amounted to a free weekend of food, booze, fun and nighttime entertainment at a Lake resort. Top shelf, all of it. I was lucky enough to take part in the planning committee and we elected to bring in some entertainment from Chicago... we had a double decker barge to go out on the water, an account of resort credit to spend on various activities, et cetera.
When my family and I were at the parties and mixer opportunities before dinner and such we'd gather with the Israelis and the rest of the U.S. people on patios or in the banquet hall. At the time I wondered why many of the Israelis had a certain look in their eyes. Always a cautious and distant look while scanning the large groups. Stuff like that. I imagined many looking at we Americans with a detached sadness mixed with a type of distrust and a 'hunger' for lack of a better term.
I think I'm beginning to understand now. I understand why my friend said "I don't think Jews can be safe anywhere but Israel" At the time, I of course disagreed with her, thinking that the United States would never abandon any of her people. Well, it won't, but we can't cordon off the freelancers like the guy from Seattle this weekend. I don't know if they can do much better in Israel either for that matter, even if they have a fence, but now I think I understand what she was telling me.
I'm glad that I was not born a jew. For my own good - not because of what has been done to that people. I'm afraid I would have given myself over to hate and would be hollow inside by now. I don't know how their people go on living and loving after all this time. They still have fun at weddings and on weekend party trips. It's really a tribute to the good in them and their beliefs. If it were me in their place, I would have gone medieval on the rest of the Middle East by now. I'm glad for the sake of my own soul that I have not been put to the test like the Jews have been. I know that I would not pass muster.
Assalamau-LAikum Plague,
You say "I'm glad for the sake of my own soul that I have not been put to the test like the Jews have been. I know that I would not pass muster".
That was a very interesting yet sad post. But you know I can relate with you but in a reverse way.
An Ahmdi boy in our neighourhood got badly beaten because he had insulted a sunni...we know that reporting to the police would do nothing....but we did anyway.
With the flick of his wrist the sunni policeman waved us away. "What is the crime here? he said...go away before I arrest you all"....and he meant it.
So we had to seek solace with Allah Ta'alah and really felt a need for out own homeland for the Ahmadi, but ofcourse that will never happen.
The Ahmadi will never resort to firing rockets like Hizbullah...but our intellect can help. I often spoke to Anwer when he was alive on the subject matter...and ofcourse he said that at least the infedel tried to be fair ...to start with anyway.
He said that if the infedel could see that the Ahmadi was different, relate to him and you could get them to covert to Ahmadi, perhaps we could finally outnumber and out monuevere the sunni.
Plague you peoples can help...always always support the Ahmadi....and make the necessary consessions and conversions to Ahmadi-ship.
Anwer would see sitting by Allah Taalah's side that his dreams are becoming true...please start those conversions...Plague ..you owe it to Anwer.
May Allah show you much mercy Plague
Allah Hafiz.
Here's a good presentation on the new wave of anti-semitism. This site also has other Jihad related presentations.
http://www.conceptwizard.com/pipeline_of_hatred.html
"An Ahmdi boy in our neighourhood got badly beaten because he had insulted a sunni...we know that reporting to the police would do nothing....but we did anyway.
With the flick of his wrist the sunni policeman waved us away. "What is the crime here? he said...go away before I arrest you all"....and he meant it.
So we had to seek solace with Allah Ta'alah and really felt a need for out own homeland for the Ahmadi, but ofcourse that will never happen."
-- from Naseem's post above
Study her posting. Study her mental disarray. Study her appeal for all of us to become Ahmadiyyas, that is to become Muslims in her version and somehow we will then, Infidels all becoming sudden Ahmadis, will overwhelm all those "Sunnis" who make up 85-90% of the world's Muslims. Yet she still can't consider the obvious alternative -- that we remain Infidels, and she jettison even the slightly milder (ever so slightly) version of Islam, the faith of Islam has been responsible, clearly for so much misery and mental confusion in her own life.
This is a useful case-study. Make use.
See the Ahmadiya post above. While the
I wish to take note here, that identification of these rockets that hit Afula as Khaybar l ceased after the first day of reporting. I had EMAILED Fox and CNN and educated them as to the ominous significance of Khaybar (the first Jewish city that was attacked and massacred by Muhammad and Ali). To it's credit CNN subsequently had on it's show, an Arab Analyst a Mrs Nasr, who (although she pronounced Khaybar differently) told of the same event.. since that time none of the media has mentioned that the missle was a Khaybar, they now call it the Jafr missle(Jafr is the Dawn or first prayer of the Muslim). Not even Fox (for all of you Fox Lovers) has dared to speak to the truth, Bush doesn't speak to the truth, continuously calling this a war on some ephemereal noun (terror) or a war to bring majority vote to countries that already give their people majority vote (Democracy).
And again for all of you Fox Lovers Fox has barely mentioned the Hate Crime in Seattle, nor has it called it such.. and for good reason ...Prince Walid Bin Talal owns enough of Rupert Murdoch's business to influence programming and reporting.
This is being forwarded by email (to me also) written by Brigitte Gabriel, FYI. The soldiers of Mohammed are marching on the Lebanon Israeli border now, and tomorrow..?
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23406
Thank you, Israel! Thank you for being first in this battle against evil.
Hezbollah does more than use weman and children as shields. They use their deaths and tears as weapons of martyrdom. You can not tell me that the recent loss of close to 60 weman and children wasn't intentional. That attack was drawn in with a specific intent in mind. Number one to galvanize arab support and opinion, which was divided secularly. Number two to weaken support for Israel in the West and further prep it for destrucion. If you listen to the left wing media, and the Arab street you will see they hit a homerun with this one. What a bunch of lemmings they are. To you weenie lefties out there. Ask yourself this. Could this attack have been a terror attack if Israel did not have foreknowledge that there were civilians in the building? Then think of this. If the fire was drawn onto the site by Hezbollah, which surely it was, with the intent to kill civilians for political use. Then the attack by Israel was an act of terrorism by Hezbollah not Israel. Change your bong water then pack that and smoke it. It is a complex concept so you may have to get high to get it.
Infidel Pride,
Talk about nutjobs. Just read in the local paper the statement of a couple in my city who were evacuated from Lebanon. Whining about bombs falling. And, the husband says he will go back once the conflict stops. I have a lot of friends who give any muslim country a very wide berth in all their travels, leave alone work in one. But these nutjobs who still do not get that it is dangerous to work in any muslim country make things difficult for any army. If some non Lebanese had died, their native countries would be howling, even though the fault is solely theirs. I am going to visit the home of this lunatic and give him JW's link. His father is a doctor, and I know the residence.
They did say that the Christian sector of Lebanon was where they stayed. No bombs falling there.
Naseem,
You said:
Anwer would see sitting by Allah Taalah's side that his dreams are becoming true...please start those conversions...Plague ..you owe it to Anwer.
May Allah show you much mercy Plague.
Thanks for the kind thoughts, Naseem, but
Allah doesn't show mercy to anyone, Naseem,including true believer muslims. This is from Mohammed himself.
Sahih Bukari
Volume 8, Book 76, Number 537:
Narrated Abu Said:
The Prophet said, "Allah will say, 'O Adam!. Adam will reply, 'Labbaik and Sa'daik (I respond to Your Calls, I am obedient to Your orders), wal Khair fi Yadaik (and all the good is in Your Hands)!'
Then Allah will say (to Adam), Bring out the people of the Fire.' Adam will say, 'What (how many) are the people of the Fire?' Allah will say, 'Out of every thousand (take out) nine-hundred and ninety-nine (persons).'
At that time children will become hoary-headed and every pregnant female will drop her load (have an abortion) and you will see the people as if they were drunk, yet not drunk; But Allah's punishment will be very severe."
Why stay with a life of misery and suffering and try to maintain you are muslim when 72 of 73 sects would harm you and abandon you? For some eternal gift? You and I will not be the 1 out of 1,000 Naseem. Free yourself. If you are predestined by allah to be fuel for the hellfire, why the hell do you suffer in this life? Live a little. Join the rest of us in word and deed and reject the allah who would consign us all to hell.
How stupid. You may have owed you husband something during his life, but that's over now. I owe him nothing and I certainly won't give anything but trouble to a god that has already decided I'm going to burn forever because I don't submit
Get a deep faith Naseem. Replace the one you have wiht on one which doesn't threaten you with a monster in the closet.