Fitzgerald: Suggestions for India and Indian-Americans

The government of India should, at the United Nations, raise the issue of what Islam teaches, and insist that this be a subject of discussion. It will get nowhere at the U.N., because the Arab bloc, which controls, in turn, the bloc of Islamic nations, and which has infiltrated so many of the U.N. Secretariat's offices (not only with Muslims – see my January article, “A tribute to Edward Mortimer,” here), and which of course has caused the U.N. and its constituent organizations to spend possibly one-third of their time on Israel as a threat to world peace.

But merely raising the issue -- and this should be by a country deemed to be outside the West, a victim rather than practitioner of colonialism -- will be valuable. It will force Muslims to defend themselves, to be aware that their behavior, and their teachings, and their history, are now under scrutiny. And this, in turn, will force many of them to modify their behavior. Look at Tariq Ramadan's latest line about "using the vote" and so on to gain power in Europe. We want to change Muslim behavior at once. Then we want to educate as many Infidels as possible, so that they will not mistake the perceived quiet, the perceived absence of terrorist acts, as anything but the temporary tactical move it will be, as will be the lapse in demands, in Western Europe especially, made on Infidels -- in order to let Da'wa and demographic conquest proceed unopposed. And that must not be allowed to happen.

But for now, it would be good if the Indian Ambassador were to stand up (and John Bolton will put his famed unpleasantness to wonderful use -- let him) and make this an issue. Howls will come from Muslim countries. Let those howls come. And then it will be time, in rebuttal, to remind the world of the 60-70 million Hindus who were killed by Muslim invaders, and about the forced conversions, and all the rest.

Start talking outside of India, about what has been happening to Hindus in Pakistan, that most treacherous and phony of American "allies" (well, next to Saudi Arabia), to Hindus in Bangladesh, to Hindus and Sikhs and Jains and Buddhists and Christians in India -- all at some time victims of Islam-prompted atrocities.

And try to raise the unembarrassed consciousness of these historic realities among Hindus and other non-Muslim Indians living in the Western world, who should know all this if they paid attention more, instead of spending their time trying to prove their sophistication by belittling those who make much of the Muslim behavior and threat as "communalism" that is beneath them (see, for example, Amartya Sen when he offers his transparent misplaced defenses of Islam).

Those of us who are not Indian should find out a good deal more about what happened on the subcontinent, and cease to so readily accept the "advanced" view which holds that anything smacking of "communalism" (a word used to indicate, of course, those who wish to show their sympathetic interest in, and identification with, Hindu India, and who refuse to play the game of sanitizing the history of Muslim rule) is ipso facto evil.

This kind of thing will only stop if believing Muslims feel that their position in the world, their ability to remain in the Lands of the Infidels, is now being questioned. Only if they begin to feel uneasy, insecure (as in Australia), will they modify at least their outward behavior.

It is a pity that so many in India among those who are called, quite loosely and often quite comically, "intellectuals" -- all shy away from anything that might conceivably be taken as a defense of Hindu (or Sikh) civilization, or culture. Above all, no thoroughly modern Indian will dare suggest that Islam has done great damage to India, to Indian civilization. No, there are exceptions -- such as that cosmopolitan of Indian descent, V. S. Naipaul, who is not afraid of anyone. There are Indian-Americans (Hindu, Sikh, and even disaffected ex-Muslims) and their counterparts in Great Britain, who also know how silly it is not to make the case, to ignore history, or to shy away from the slightest hint of Hindutva, which is often mocked. And why is that, exactly? Is K. S. Lal to be mocked for "The Legacy of Muslim Rule in India"? Is Sir Jahundath Sarkar? Are all the other Hindu historians of India who have been unafraid to discuss what Muslim rule did to India?

One hopes that Indian-Americans interested in all this will begin to contact their Congressmen, and will begin to use their influence to make sure that the history of Muslim conquest, and Muslim destruction of artifacts and temples, and Muslim subjugation of Hindus and then, of Sikhs, will be brought home to them. For what better way to make clear to the Western world that it is nothing they, those benighted Westerners, have done, to Islam or to Muslims? Every non-Muslim group, West and East, North and South, offending or innocent, rich or poor -- it does not matter -- has been treated with hostility, even murderous hostility, by Muslims whose canonical texts teach such hostility.

One hopes that those in the Western world who are articulate and aware, and of Indian (Hindu or Sikh descent, primarily) will help to educate others -- but that can only be done once one has educated oneself. Lal and Sarkar should be household words; the two volumes in which Sita Ram Goel simply lists tens of thousands of Hindu sites destroyed, should be better known.

Let us begin.

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l have noticed how the world has forgotten about the killings of those in India. The Indian government and people need to push for expulsion of muslims from their lands, and destruction of mosques. They have had a much longer history of agression by the muslim, so therefore they are entitled to these percieved severe measures. Once they begin this effort the world will look more in the reasons why they are doing. no doubt some will cry out, but many will want to know why, and therefore learn more of India's history and come to the same conclusions.

Hugh,

In some aspects your knowledge about India's history would even shame an Indian but surely you dont seemed to have grasped the current political scenario in India. Indian govt. is run by a clueless Italian surrounded by her self-serving advisors. They are dhimmis of the highest order. They havent had guts to rein in on madrassas and mosques lest it affect their Muslim vote-banks. Even as tragedy in Mumbai was unfolding a government minister was proposing reservations for Muslims in educational insitutions.

But for now, it would be good if the Indian Ambassador were to stand up (and John Bolton will put his famed unpleasantness to wonderful use -- let him) and make this an issue.

Do seriously believe that a government that reduces troops in Kashmir and tamely speaks of peace with Pakistan even as its citizens are killed in droves on a weekly basis, ever grow a spine and actually make an international issue out of this?

India is a voteocracy. The very Secular Indian government doesnt care how many Hindus die at hands of jehadis but is quick to criticise Israelis when they go about doing what needs to be done. This Congress goverment stays in power by dividing the polity on caste and religious lines. Indian goverment is a sellout.

Ever thought of conatcting RSS? www.rss.org

To put it simply, India is currently ruled by probably the most dhimmi, spineless, corrupt, cowardly, anti-progressive & anti-intellectual government that ever took office in the history of any country.

Totally agree with you Hugh.

"Secularism" in India means Hindu bashing in tandem with muslim mollycoddling and promotion of evangelism.I wonder if any Indian ambassador has the guts to call a spade a spade without mincing words and without a shred of sophistry.

Also,how many Hindus know Indira is Indira Khan and not Indira Gandhi and that her second son was born to another muslim called mohd yunus?The muslim ties of nehru dynasty needs to be exposed plus gandhi's unexposed experiments with deceit and lies.

http://www.nehrufamily.com/nehrudynasty.php

"Rajiv (Khan) Gandhi was born to Indira (Khan) Gandhi
and Feroze (Khan) Gandhi. He converted to Christianity
to marry Catholic Italian Sonia Miano.....The Nehru-Khan-Gandhi dynasty and the veneration and
worship of Catholic Italian Sonia Miano (Khan) Gandhi
by the Congress party as well as Indian (both Hindus
and Muslims) masses throughout India can be considered
as great examples of Indian secularism".

Also read the following facts in Varsha Bhosle's article which has Nathuram Godse's deposition(excerpts)before being hanged.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/may/12varsha.htm

Agree with you Lulu...
"The Indian government and people need to push for expulsion of muslims from their lands, and destruction of mosques".

We need a repeat of Gujarat retaliation with exponentially more vehement intensity and rage.

Ultimately chasing them out of the country will not be enough.Total,irrevocable extermination alone is the lasting solution.Leftists ,rent a cause bleeding hearts-human rights conglomerates too can meet with the same fate.

Posting in part:

"Read the following excerpts, from the deposition of a man who was hanged in the early hours of a cold November morning of 1948 in Ambala prison. Clutching a map of undivided India in one hand and the saffron flag in another, he walked to the gallows chanting an invocation to his motherland. A few hours later, his body was cremated outside the prison walls and, immediately afterwards, the whole area was ploughed and planted with grass so that no one could identify the spot and build a shrine:


On January 13, 1948, I learnt that Gandhiji had decided to go on fast unto death. The reason given was that he wanted an assurance of Hindu-Muslim Unity... But I and many others could easily see that the real motive... [was] to compel the Dominion Government to pay the sum of Rs 55 crores to Pakistan, the payment of which was emphatically refused by the Government.... But this decision of the people's Government was reversed to suit the tune of Gandhiji's fast. It was evident to my mind that the force of public opinion was nothing but a trifle when compared with the leanings of Gandhiji favourable to Pakistan.

...In 1946 or thereabout, Muslim atrocities perpetrated on Hindus under the Government patronage of Surhawardy in Noakhali made our blood boil. Our shame and indignation knew no bounds when we saw that Gandhiji had come forward to shield that very Surhawardy and began to style him as 'Shaheed Saheb' – a martyr – even in his prayer meetings...

...Gandhiji's influence in the Congress first increased and then became supreme. His activities for public awakening were phenomenal in their intensity and were reinforced by the slogans of truth and non-violence which he ostentatiously paraded before the country... I could never conceive that an armed resistance to the aggressor is unjust... Ram killed Ravan in a tumultuous fight... Krishna killed Kansa to end his wickedness... In condemning Shivaji, Rana Pratap and Guru Govind as 'misguided patriots,' Gandhiji has merely exposed his self-conceit... Gandhiji was, paradoxically, a violent pacifist who brought untold calamities on the country in the name of truth and nonviolence, while Rana Pratap, Shivaji and the Guru will remain enshrined in the hearts of their countrymen forever...

...By 1919, Gandhiji had become desperate in his endeavours to get the Muslims to trust him and went from one absurd promise to another... He backed the Khilafat movement in this country and was able to enlist the full support of the National Congress in that policy... very soon the Moplah Rebellion showed that the Muslims had not the slightest idea of national unity... There followed a huge slaughter of Hindus... The British Government, entirely unmoved by the rebellion, suppressed it in a few months and left to Gandhiji the joy of his Hindu-Muslim Unity... British Imperialism emerged stronger, the Muslims became more fanatical, and the consequences were visited on the Hindus...

The accumulating provocation of 32 years, culminating in his last pro-Muslim fast, at last goaded me to the conclusion that the existence of Gandhiji should be brought to an end immediately... he developed a subjective mentality under which he alone was the final judge of what was right or wrong... Either Congress had to surrender its will to him and play second fiddle to all his eccentricity, whimsicality... or it had to carry on without him... He was the master brain guiding the civil disobedience movement... The movement may succeed or fail; it may bring untold disasters and political reverses, but that could make no difference to the Mahatma's infallibility... These childish inanities and obstinacies, coupled with a most severe austerity of life, ceaseless work and lofty character, made Gandhiji formidable and irresistible... In a position of such absolute irresponsibility, Gandhiji was guilty of blunder after blunder...

...The Mahatma even supported the separation of Sindh from the Bombay Presidency and threw the Hindus of Sindh to the communal wolves. Numerous riots took place in Karachi, Sukkur, Shikarpur and other places in which the Hindus were the only sufferers...

...From August 1946 onwards, the private armies of the Muslim League began a massacre of the Hindus... Hindu blood began to flow from Bengal to Karachi with mild reactions in the Deccan... The Interim government formed in September was sabotaged by its Muslim League members, but the more they became disloyal and treasonable to the government of which they were a part, the greater was Gandhi's infatuation for them...

...The Congress, which had boasted of its nationalism and socialism, secretly accepted Pakistan and abjectly surrendered to Jinnah. India was vivisected and one-third of the Indian territory became foreign land to us... This is what Gandhiji had achieved after 30 years of undisputed dictatorship, and this is what Congress party calls 'freedom'...

...One of the conditions imposed by Gandhiji for his breaking of the fast unto death related to the mosques in Delhi occupied by Hindu refugees. But when Hindus in Pakistan were subjected to violent attacks he did not so much as utter a single word to protest and censure the Pakistan government...

Gandhi is being referred to as the Father of the Nation. But if that is so, he had failed his paternal duty inasmuch as he has acted very treacherously to the nation by his consenting to the partitioning of it... The people of this country were eager and vehement in their opposition to Pakistan. But Gandhiji played false with the people...

...I shall be totally ruined, and the only thing I could expect from the people would be nothing but hatred... if I were to kill Gandhiji. But at the same time, I felt that Indian politics in the absence of Gandhiji would surely be proved practical, able to retaliate, and be powerful with armed forces. No doubt, my own future would be totally ruined, but the nation would be saved from the inroads of Pakistan...

...I do say that my shots were fired at the person whose policy and action had brought rack and ruin and destruction to millions of Hindus... There was no legal machinery by which such an offender could be brought to book, and for this reason I fired those fatal shots...

...I do not desire any mercy to be shown to me... I did fire shots at Gandhiji in open daylight. I did not make any attempt to run away; in fact I never entertained any idea of running away. I did not try to shoot myself... for, it was my ardent desire to give vent to my thoughts in an open Court. My confidence about the moral side of my action has not been shaken even by the criticism levelled of against it on all sides. I have no doubt, honest writers of history will weigh my act and find the true value thereof some day in future.

Absorbed all that? Now consider this:


Stauffenberg died because he sought to rid his country of the disease of Nazism; recognised the mortal danger of defeat into which Hitler had led Germany; anticipated the disgrace and punishment that the iniquity of Nazism would bring to his countrymen in its wake. Stauffenberg's motives, therefore, were patriotic.

Nathuram Godse died because he sought to rid his country of the disease of Appeasement; recognised the dangers inherent in Gandhiji's Ahimsa-cloaked despotism; anticipated the capitulation to the whims of Pakistan that Gandhiji would force upon an elected Indian government, against the wishes of the people".

".....Stauffenberg and Godse targeted the leader of their respective countries. Both were infuriated by the deaths of thousands of their countrymen. Both did it only to strengthen their countries... So who decides when the sabotage of one's government is justified? The Opposition parties? The historians of the conquering countries? The "ordinary people" who pour into the streets to kick at fallen statues and celebrate by looting museums? Or the people who become "the rabble" during communal strife...? Oh puh-lease, spare me the lecture on patriotism: You wouldn't know it if it bit off your nose".

Hugh,
Many, many thanks for bringing attention to a subject that we should never ever forget.
Crows&Cows,
I am speechless at what you have revealed about Gandhi.How many like me were in the dark??

Hugh, Vikrant is right on the money. Hindus are cowards.

Hugh:

I appreciate your thoughtful suggestions to the Indians and the Indian diaspora in America and the rest of the world. It is incumbent upon them to educate the Western world that holds the power to influence geopolitical developments. Having said that, I have serious doubts whether they can step up to the task.

Of the latter group, the erudite and the articulate Indian diaspora comprises mainly of professionals who migrated to the US and elswhere when they were students, and have litttle or no first-hand experience or awareness of the Indian situation. They are mostly men and (a few) women who have been sheltered most of their life in India, and guilt-ridden for having "abandoned" their "poor" country. They are mesmerized by cheap talks on equality, distributive justice, and secularism, from left wing intellectuals such as Amartya Sen, Arundhati Roy, and Rajmohan Gandhi who tell them what they want to hear. Listening to them and applauding what they say, it seems, somehow assuage their guilt. Just attend a talk by any one of these so-called intellectuals in Berkeley or Harvard, and strike converations with the attendees, and you'll know what I mean.

Anyone from the former group, the Indians from India, with a counter point of view will be dismissed as a Hindu fundamentalist, right-wing reactionary, opinionated, and what not. Worse, none will be invited by most of the expatraite Indian organizations, and if one happened to slip through the cracks, he or she would be preaching either to the choir or an empty hall. Even in the academic circles of the US, only the leftist, liberal intellectuals from India are credible, because these circles are themselves filled with liberal intellectuals, particularly in the social sciences, with the possible exception of economics.

In the meantime, Islam marches on in India, uninhibited. I fear, not far in the future, India will be part of the crescent.

freetoBEfree,

We owe it to the Internet and Truth Seekers like Hugh,Naipaul,SitaRam Goel etc.(Sites like Sword of Truth,a tributetoHinduism and JW)

Precious years of our lives were and are wasted memorising doctored "history" full of toxic lies.

Sri Aurobindo rightly observed, what India got was no freedom,and that Hindus WILL have to take up arms against muslims.

Israel is on the Right Path.

Infidel Pride,
Chicken is besharam.

Crows&Cows,
Everyone who is not a muslim NEEDS to take up arms against the muslims. Surely if we all joined together, they can be put out of their misery.
The Lebanese leader is already begging the UN to stop Israel. HA! Don't listen, Israel.

Of the latter group, the erudite and the "...articulate Indian diaspora comprises mainly of professionals who migrated to the US and elswhere when they were students, and have litttle or no first-hand experience or awareness of the Indian situation. They are mostly men and (a few) women who have been sheltered most of their life in India, and guilt-ridden for having "abandoned" their "poor" country. They are mesmerized by cheap talks on equality, distributive justice, and secularism, from left wing intellectuals such as Amartya Sen, Arundhati Roy, and Rajmohan Gandhi who tell them what they want to hear. Listening to them and applauding what they say, it seems, somehow assuage their guilt. Just attend a talk by any one of these so-called intellectuals in Berkeley or Harvard, and strike converations with the attendees, and you'll know what I mean."
-- from a posting above

I know what you mean. Part of it is fashion. If you assume that others will automatically be suspicious of, and despise, anyone whose speech smacks of "communalism," anyone who shows too great a resentment of the effect of Islam and Muslim rule on Indian civlization and on Indians today, then you are more likely to be willing to ignore, to not bother to learn, the real history of India, and to wish to be thought advanced, sophisticated, westernized, and the outward and visible sign of that westernization and sophistication is to be indifference to the menace of Islam.

It's crazy. And it is infuriating to see how many people from India choose someone - oh, Merchant of Merchant-Ivory-Jhabvala fame -- someone who is a Muslim-for-identification-purposes-only Muslim, and take him, or some film star, to be a representative Muslim. First analyze what Islam is. Then ask yourself -- is this person, who calls himself a Muslim, acceptable to me only to the extent that he is in fact not a Believer, ignores most or all of Muslim doctrine?

Answer: Yes.

It is maddeing as well to see the inattention to Indian history, the refusal even to open K. S. Lal, and of course Sita Ram Goel would be out of the question. One should just go ahead, read these historians, and see if, and where, and when, they make sense. It is too easy to denounce, say, Thackery (he deserves to be denounced), and to pretend that there never was, and isn't now, a problem with Islam. Of course there is. And Kashmir is not the problem. Kashmir is only the beginnig of the problem.

Gandhi may have been deified by some in the West -- but do see that very funny review of the movie "Gandhi" by the late Richard Grenier. A deification that was undeserved.

One hopes that as Indians or those born to Indians now in the West, realize that it is acceptable to begin to tell the truth about Islam, that they will repair to histories, and find out something, and cease to mock or dismiss those (Hindus, of course, only Hindus) whose views are now called, too easily, "communalism."

If you guys really want to see just how bad Gandhi was, read this article

Saving Hinduism By Killing all the Hindus

http://www.sulekha.com/blogs/blogdisplay.aspx?cid=64503

the gist of the article, is that during partition when Hindus and Muslims were fighting, Gandhi was telling Hindus to let Muslims slaughter them!!!

an example "But I would exhort the Hindus and Sikhs again and again not to retaliate. I make bold to say that if Hindus and Sikhs sacrifice their lives at the hands of Muslims without rancor or retaliation they will become the saviors not only of their own religions but also of Islam and the whole world."

unbelievable

To all Indian posters, a request -

Please give facts about gandhi to all you know. More and more people in India see him for what he was, an egoistic traitor hiding behind ahimsa. The death of one million Hindus during this period only (July August 1947), at the time of creation of pakistan, can be directly attributed to gandhi. One might say that jinnah and nehru were responsible. We know gandhi claimed to be the champion of Hindus, and he is responsible. Spread the word, friends.

Crows&Cows

I don't have the slightest respect for either the Gandhi or the Nehru clans, but is there any other evidence for the link you cited above? How do they know? In the absence of any proof, that just reads like a National Enquirer story.

While I welcome all attempts to expose the Congress and other dhimmi forces in India, we would be doing ourselves a lot of damage in giving any credibility to such sources as the above, swordoftruth, etc.

People like N.S.Rajaram and Hiranyappa have written about gandhi's double standards and nehru family's background(Hiranyappa).Annie Besant,I have read(all on internet by googling,sorry don't have sites' names)has written about shockingly revolting double standards of gandhi during Moplah massacre.Daily Pioneer,the only non dhimmi(however unabashed supporters of Hajpayee and Hadvani)newspaper once published a series of articles by Praful Goradia,Balbir Punj and KR.Phanda -all in detail about muslim atrocities condoned by gandhi (and how by his silly exhortations to fast and not fight back,Jathindranath died and callous gandhi came out with egregiously apathetic responses...)None of those,I am afraid are archived.

About nehru family,the older generation knew a lot.The books that were attempted to be written about them were proscribed.Even whatever I have given,I did with a lot of trepidation...India's non violence is exclusively towards muslims.Remember Emergency??

More sordid details on googling.I am afraid,majority don't care.More interested in cricket and film stars...

What really I do not understand is that the Hindus' inability to call Islam to call it a religion of terror - which of course, is the truth. The Hindus' unpleasant association with Islam is more than a millennium old. I really admire Israel. It is high time the two worst sufferrers of Islam - the Hindus and the Jews joined hands against their worst enemy. But will that happen ?

Precisely Rajagopalan.

India whines,pathetically pointing fingers at America for not calling paki a "terrorist state".

What has India been doing? In all wars fought, most of the territories captured back were returned as "goodwill gesture".The pows were always treated with dignity and handed over.It continues to play cricket.MFN status is conferred on them.Periodically a lot of wannabe potential terrorists are given free medical treatment.Nobody cracks down on film industry which maintains the closest link with paki terrorists.When salman khan, was arrested a lot of *Hindus* were fasting and praying (sic)for his speedy release!

The "false prophets" of our country who have bases abroad too(I am not naming them as they have lynch mobs )advise their muslim followers platitudinously..."Be a good(!)muslim".What do they mean? Go ahead and decapitate with finesse??

Another currently (in)famous charlatan godman has among his followers yasin malik of JKLF,a killer of several Army personnel.He claims even George Bush is one of his followers.He travels to pakistan and his followers claim,by following his breathing techniques,terrorists would be "spraying water guns"!dawood's ex paramour is his protege.

It is time one defines a Hindu.Our country is leaderless and visionless blustering about becoming a superpower!No solidarity,no synergy.

The absence of RAGE is shocking.Already rss chief is trumpeting "there are a lot of patriotic muslims extending their support" to him!
With such incorrigible idiots who refuse to learn
many more terrorist attacks can be expected to take place.

crows&cows,
thanx for your kind words about Israel. We should destroy the Hizbullah and not accept any cease fire before that is accomplished. Otherwise, this fanatic gang will still possess weapons to destroy us with and we will have to live under the shadow of Hizbullah's murderous weapons [especially people in northern Israel], listening to ahmadinajad's threats to destroy us. There is no reason to allow the hizbullah to continue to exist. If Lebanon wants to be a sovereign state, then hizbullah has to be destroyed. If the Lebanese army cannot or will not do that job, then Israel has to do it for Israel's own sake. Now, various europeans are calling for an "international force" to watch Lebanon's border with Israel. But such a force has been there for many years [UNIFIL] and is worse than nothing. If the europeans don't know this history, then they are stupid and/or ignorant --OR they are very cynical and evil. After all, how dumb and stupid can Blair and Romano Prodi be???? What about that ignorant woman, the EU's bettina walner-ferrero [however you spell her name]?? What's worrisone is that Olmert has reduced Israel's demands to a mere buffer zone in Lebanon, when what is needed is hizbullah's destruction.

As to Gandhi, he not only urged Hindus not to retaliate or defend themselves against Muslim attacks, but he also told the Jews not to resist Nazi Germany. Jews who know about this appeal by Gandhi either are baffled and can't understand it or are bitter about it and about Gandhi.

Thank You,Eliyahu!

I know the insane gandhi exhorted the Jews to resort to voluntary suicide.What more proof is needed that he was an imbecile.

Mark Twain's observation about a Patriot is applicable to Israel and Its Jews.At first He is scorned but once the cause is won,the rest would meekly join Him as it does not cost them much then!

My ardent Prayers for Israel and all Truth and Freedom loving people of the world.What is heartening is such a world is Promised in Nostradamus's Prophesies.

One more good news:
Israel has discovered a catalytic method to extract oil from shale at a cost of $17/barrel:

http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jul2006/gb20060705_516609.htm?campaign_id=alerts

A poem by V.Sundaram:

"Where the mind is full of fear
And the head is held low
Where knowledge is costly
And the world has been broken up
Into fragments by narrow domestic walls
Where words come out from the depths of diabolic untruth
Where tireless striving stretches its arms
Towards transcendental destruction
Where the turgid waters of Communist,islamist unreason
Have completely swamped the tiny islands
Of enlightened humanist reason
Where the mind is led forward
By thee into never ending vistas
Of thoughtless Stalinist action
Or actionless Leninistic thought
Into that hell of 21st century
My father
Let not Let not Let not
My beloved World of 21st century arise"!

"

I second Arjun's sentiments. Before this thread disappears from the home page, I'd like to thank all the posters here for re-iterating the real ugly truth about Gandhi. I have been screaming it loud and clear from the time I joined Jihadwatch last Christmas. I'm glad to see that every other Indian here is hammering the truth about Gandhi, so readers of this weblog, be they wherever they may, no longer labor under the myth that Gandhi was a saint.