If "war is deceit," as Muhammad said, Hamas is losing this battle. From YNetNews: "Hamas leaders: We are not Hamasniks"
Israel thought it captured senior Hamas officials in the West Bank, but the 32 legislators and ministers arrested last week by the Israel Defense Forces denied in interrogation that they belong to the Hamas movement.
According to the London-based al-Sharq al-Awsat, when Hamas members were asked about their affiliations they said they were elected on an independent list called The List for Change and Reform and that they do not belong to Hamas.
The claim was made by all 32 arrested members in coordination with their lawyer Attorney Jawad Boulous.
The newspaper added and reported that Israeli interrogators were not particularly impressed of this version and engaged in political discussions with their detainees. The parties discussed the possibility of Hamas joining a political process.
Hahaha!
The great Muhammedan warriors playing Rumpelstilzchen?
Some hero's! Pathetic swine who hide behind children... Unbelievable!
OT, but then again, on topic:
KILL, DON'T CAPTURE
HOW TO SOLVE OUR PRISONER PROBLEM
July 10, 2006 -- THE British military defines experience as the ability to recognize a mistake the second time you make it. By that standard, we should be very experienced in dealing with captured terrorists, since we've made the same mistake again and again.
Violent Islamist extremists must be killed on the battlefield. Only in the rarest cases should they be taken prisoner. Few have serious intelligence value. And, once captured, there's no way to dispose of them.
Killing terrorists during a conflict isn't barbaric or immoral - or even illegal. We've imposed rules upon ourselves that have no historical or judicial precedent. We haven't been stymied by others, but by ourselves.
The oft-cited, seldom-read Geneva and Hague Conventions define legal combatants as those who visibly identify themselves by wearing uniforms or distinguishing insignia (the latter provision covers honorable partisans - but no badges or armbands, no protection). Those who wear civilian clothes to ambush soldiers or collect intelligence are assassins and spies - beyond the pale of law.
Traditionally, those who masquerade as civilians in order to kill legal combatants have been executed promptly, without trial. Severity, not sloppy leftist pandering, kept warfare within some decent bounds at least part of the time. But we have reached a point at which the rules apply only to us, while our enemies are permitted unrestricted freedom.
The present situation encourages our enemies to behave wantonly, while crippling our attempts to deal with terror.
Consider today's norm: A terrorist in civilian clothes can explode an IED, killing and maiming American troops or innocent civilians, then demand humane treatment if captured - and the media will step in as his champion. A disguised insurgent can shoot his rockets, throw his grenades, empty his magazines, kill and wound our troops, then, out of ammo, raise his hands and demand three hots and a cot while he invents tales of abuse.
Conferring unprecedented legal status upon these murderous transnational outlaws is unnecessary, unwise and ultimately suicidal. It exalts monsters. And it provides the anti-American pack with living vermin to anoint as victims, if not heroes.
Isn't it time we gave our critics what they're asking for? Let's solve the "unjust" imprisonment problem, once and for all. No more Guantanamos! Every terrorist mission should be a suicide mission. With our help.
We need to clarify the rules of conflict. But integrity and courage have fled Washington. Nobody will state bluntly that we're in a fight for our lives, that war is hell, and that we must do what it takes to win.
Our enemies will remind us of what's necessary, though. When we've been punished horribly enough, we'll come to our senses and do what must be done.
This isn't an argument for a murderous rampage, but its opposite. We must kill our enemies with discrimination. But we do need to kill them. A corpse is a corpse: The media's rage dissipates with the stench. But an imprisoned terrorist is a strategic liability.
the rest
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/kill__dont_capture_opedcolumnis ts_ralph_peters.htm
Good article, sheik yer'mami.
sheik,
Your article shows how to deal with these scum. Hope more and more people read it and realize that we are losing only because of the high standards of warfare that we ourselves have set and which muslims have historically never adhered to, and are not about to start doing so now.
sheik yer mami-
I've been trying to get the word out to the media and government apologistas about this WW II-style 'battlefield justice', not uncommonly meted out for those out-of-uniform "irregulars" (AKA terrorists, spies, and saboteurs) in previous conflicts.
Maybe the finally effort is taking root.
Our judicial and military and legislative misunderstanding of this kind of warfare has hamstrung our soldiers in the field, and our courts in the states, and it is time to cut the crap and shoot the s.o.b.'s immediately - unless they are suspected of being higher level terrorists holding some useful info that a little recreational waterboarding might squeeze loose.
You don't let the terrorist enemy determine the rules.
You line the bastards up and end their "guerrilla" advantage with M-16 volleys.
Thanks profitsbeard & others, much appreciated!
Here's another article by "Sir Iqbal" about the "hijacking of a peaceful religion....
PRESS RELEASE: THE REVIVAL REMEMBERS VICTIMS OF 7/7
As the one-year anniversary of the London bombings that claimed 52 lives and injured hundreds is commemorated today (July 7), The Revival totally and openly condemns terrorists who cowardly attack innocent people. Our sympathy goes to all whose lives were changed by the explosions on the Underground and on the bus in Tavistock Square.
“The London terror attacks were a nasty piece of work by sick, pathetic, blood-sucking men. These attacks were a massive crime against humanity. This was a job carried out by crackpots who have no value for human life”, said Sajid Iqbal, Editor of The Revival.
If something positive has come out of these attacks then I would say it has created an opportunity for everyone in Britain to have a closer look at the true teachings of Islam. A chance to speak to sincere scholars, to visit the mosques, to pick up a copy of the Quran and discuss Islam with educated Muslims.
Also these attacks should not divide the British public away from Muslims, but it should do the opposite. One year after these terrible atrocities, it should bring us even more closer together. To help each other through these difficult times. To understand each other and to bridge the gap between the communities.
Islam has been hijacked by an extremist minority and the Muslim community in Britain wishes to claim its religion back and demonstrate to our fellow country men and women what the true image of Islam is. To do this we must not listen to the extremists but sit down and talk to one another and build bridges.
If we close our selves off this will only alienate us and will give the extremists more ammunition. So please people, one year on, lets stand together and show that we will not bow to the demands of the terrorists, and that we are British and a UNITED Kingdom.
Infidel Pride,
The hamas leadership, thinking that Israel will not go this far, is showing its true colors. I think that they will be saying the equivalent of this line, made popular by gangster movies.
Watt lag gayee mamu.