Iran: Israel exploiting World Cup

Good grief, cannot have a peaceful sporting without the politics coming into play.

...Student Foundation for the Destruction of Israel...

These students need to be more explicit about their aims.

I don't see what the World Cup games have to do with Israel defending it's soldier or itself. The muslims didn't stop its warring because of them. They can blame it on the moon or the weather or grasshoppers for all it matters. These muslims need to blame everything else but themselves. They are SO pathetic. They probably wouldn't be so stupid if their family tree had branches.

So, our jihaddi wannabes, from around the world, Sunni and Shia alike, are prepared to wage war against "infidelity". How does that square with Amos Oz's insistence that this is only a dispute about real estate?

Otherwise, "Not to be outdone, Iranian student organizations are accusing Israel of timing its assault on Gaza-- in response, of course, to the kidnapping of an Israeli solder-- to coincide with the World Cup, while the entire world's attention is allegedly diverted. (Don't they know what a small following soccer has in the US?)"

Given that the orders and resources to attack the command post, not to mention a year's worth of daily rocket attacks against targets inside "Israel proper" come from Iran's proxies in Syria, the notion of Israel controlling events is especially laughable.

"It is forbidden to allow Israel to continue its attacks in the occupied territory while exploiting for evil the World Cup games," said Mohsen

Forbidden ? By whom ?

The Front of Young World Islam.

Are they any relation to the better known "More front than Brighton" of which I am oft accused ?

Yawn, This comes from the bright individuals who executed, just recently, a tennis player. The crime was the wearing of shorts. And yet there are those amonst us who sympathize with Islam. There are those within our ranks who feel the war on terror is wrong (believing that if we leave them alone they will leave us alone). The Dimmicrats would have you believe the war is unnessary)

Yawn, This comes from the bright individuals who executed, just recently, a tennis player. The crime was the wearing of shorts. And yet there are those amonst us who sympathize with Islam. There are those within our ranks who feel the war on terror is wrong (believing that if we leave them alone they will leave us alone). The Dimmicrats would have you believe the war is unnessary)

Hey, it's the "Blame Everybody in the World But Muslims Iranian Coalition" in action!

*yawn*

Same old Islamic habit, different faces.

I apologize for the double post, pc gremlins at work.

"Common knowledge" of some analysts and internet commenters has been that the students in Iran generally oppose the mullahs. Undoubtedly some do, but that is inconsistent with this report. How representative are these "extreme student unions"? Does Michael Ledeen have a clue?

World Cup? ... Darn! I've missed it. Too busy watching acts of Islamic terrorism around the globe.

Ever so slightly off topic, it might be of some interest to those who follow the national french football team.

For those who don't already know, the team known as 'Les Bleus' is mostly made up of immigrants who are feel closer to the oumma than the République. One of the remaining white players, Franck Ribery is actually is convert to the mahommedan religion.

France has made it all the way through to the semi finals, which it will dispute against Portugal at 2100 GMT tonight.

Although it is rather difficult for the French to identify with this time, in what appears to be a mass excercise in group hypocracy, French of all all colours celebrate in the streets after each victory.

Now here's the rub. The football team don't sing the national anthem, and as far as the noisy immigrant suburbs are concerned, the team victories aren't victories of France, but victories of a) Multiculture b) The Oumma c) Non Whites.

So whenever the national team is victorious, the scenes of jubilation in the streets are quickly overtaken by events similar to what we saw in the Ramadan riots of November 2005. Carbequeues, knife attacks and riots.

On the Champs Elysées last Sunday after the victory over Brazil, there was an estimated crowd of 500,000 people. Easy pickings for infidelophobes. Result after an estimated 1000 zombies turned up. Several cars smashed and police injured. One of whom was hospitalised. 69 were arrested
http://www.france-echos.com/actualite.php?cle=9722

Thats only what was reported. On the Internet you can uncover plenty of other isolated incidents.

For example, http://www.japancar.fr/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75023&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=255 this is a car fan forum. Here a guy describes how groups of zombies in balaclavas attacked cars in a traffic jam, and other guy describes a town centre with stabbings and fights.

On a Portuguese TV Station (There are a million portuguese immigrants in France), café owners in France describes how they would be shutting shop tonight for fear of revenge attacks should France lose. "Not from the French," says the café owner "but that's another subject that we won't mention because I fear for my safety"

Just a reminder that today, on the 5th of July 1962, 3000 French were murdered in the streets and in their homes in Oran in an attack that even George Romero could not imagine.

At 11 AM thousands of muslims in Oran suddenly took out their weapons and massacred the french citizens, whilst the army was ordered by de Gaulle not to interfere. "Sortout, ne bougez pas" he is said to have ordred General Katz.

Innocent civilians were beheaded, raped, eyes gouged out, private parts ripped off, even muslim women tore people apart with their teeth.

This tragedy of monstrous proportions has remained one of the largest wounds in France's disgusting complicity with the demonic forces of Islam.

It makes Algerian president's Boutflicka's loud accusations of France's cultural genocide ring hollow. Only problem is, France listens to Bouteflicka. There will never be memorial day for the 3000 innocents who died in the most atrocious ways.

http://www.memopnha.com/oran0762.html
http://nice.algerianiste.free.fr/pages/5juillet.html
http://oran1962.free.fr/sommaire1.htm

They wannabe jihadists are always leaving, but they never seem to leave.

Long distance martyrdom being the safest.

The martyrs of the big tongue.

And flapping yap.

The Yellow Stripe Brigades seem to be the largest contingent within Islam.

Fulminating in place.

(The American flag bills for the burnings must eat up all their airfares?)

"If any of them could play soccer worth a darn, they'd say they were playing for allah to show the infidels up."

We play cricket. It is a popular sport over here. Whenever India plays with pakistan, the pakistani team, at the beginning of the match, get a compass and figure out the direction of mecca, and bang their heads on the ground. The first time he saw 11 pakistani posteriors raised skywards (the camera caught it), Geoff Boycott, one of the commentators said "what the HELL is that". When they lose, the captain shall invariably say that "inshallah we lost". And when they win "allah wanted us to win". No sportsmanship in them. None.

Yojimbo,
Do the pakis do this in matches against England too ?

Speaking of Islam and the World Cup:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/5150118.stm

In my opinion, Islamic fundamentalism must be
encouraged by the West, as it is a powerful
destructive force of these people's societies.

americaningermany,
Agree with you, it should not be allowed in sports.
We would feel silly if we broke into carols or hymns after winning or losing a match. I can't imagine doing this.
One thing I forgot. They lost a big cricket series to India, and over there in pakistan some mullahs put a fatwa on their own team accusing them of losing to infidels deliberately. The paki team was given protection by the paki army when they got back. The paki captain did not go home for a month. From India he went to mecca and spent a month there. That is sport for them.

Dear Arjun.sevak ,
I don't know, it has been many years since I used to go a watch Jeff Boycott play for Yorkshire or England at Hedingley in Leeds and they certainly didn't do any of that carpet kissing then, mind you they could have prayed from now to eternity, but it wouldn't have helped when Jeff got himself bedded in. Unfortunately at the moment English cricket is mourning the death of Freddie Trueman this week perhaps the greatest fast bowler the world has ever seen. Oh how I would have like to have taken you to see him in his prime.

Dear Arjun.sevak ,
I don't know, it has been many years since I used to go a watch Jeff Boycott play for Yorkshire or England at Hedingley in Leeds and they certainly didn't do any of that carpet kissing then, mind you they could have prayed from now to eternity, but it wouldn't have helped when Jeff got himself bedded in. Unfortunately at the moment English cricket is mourning the death of Freddie Trueman this week perhaps the greatest fast bowler the world has ever seen. Oh how I would have like to have taken you to see him in his prime.

Mr. Holger Dansker,
I believe you have some military background since your comments about afghanistan are 100% accurate. Also, your grasp of our situation in this war is absolute.
When I was a kid, I saw the serial 'Bodyline' about Douglas Jardine. I forget the name of his bowler who threw deadly balls. As a child, he was an idol. Not for what he did, but the fact that he could throw so fast and accurate.

Arjun,

The bowler's name was Harold Larwood and please he "bowled" the ball did not "throw" it. That word has many connotations in cricket.

Abhishek,
Thanks for the info. Sorry I hurt your cricketing sensitivities. Did not follow the sport after my childhood. Once again, apology. Now won't go O.T.

Dear Arjun

Perhaps you may be right perhaps wrong, what I do suffer from is a deep affection for History and perhaps deeper feeling for India, I travaled around Indian for 2 years on a Rajdut motorcycle and lived among the Indian people. I am going back nearly 30 years. Not once during those years of travel did I once feel treatened. I slept in mud huts and palaces. I ate bean badjee for 25 piates a plate from stalls and had steak at the best hotels. I went on pilgrimages to your shrines, Sri Baba in Shidi not the montebank with the Angela Davis hair cut who has a ashram in the south. Perhaps that time I spent in India was an epiphony because it taught me many lesson in humility. I have pondered much over Indian history and how my country, for I am 100% english, could rule for so long over such a large population with so few men and have come to the conclusion that it was because we were in fact mirror images of each other. We the British imposed a specialised class into your caste system which was accepted as a new caste, such are the wonders of Indian societey. I think it was Malcome Muggridge who said that the last Englishman wil be an Indian, it looms very much in my thoughts today. From you posting I gather that you live somewhere in the region of the Punjab. Please keep safe.

Dear Arjun

Perhaps you may be right perhaps wrong, what I do suffer from is a deep affection for History and perhaps deeper feeling for India, I travaled around Indian for 2 years on a Rajdut motorcycle and lived among the Indian people. I am going back nearly 30 years. Not once during those years of travel did I once feel treatened. I slept in mud huts and palaces. I ate bean badjee for 25 piates a plate from stalls and had steak at the best hotels. I went on pilgrimages to your shrines, Sri Baba in Shidi not the montebank with the Angela Davis hair cut who has a ashram in the south. Perhaps that time I spent in India was an epiphony because it taught me many lesson in humility. I have pondered much over Indian history and how my country, for I am 100% english, could rule for so long over such a large population with so few men and have come to the conclusion that it was because we were in fact mirror images of each other. We the British imposed a specialised class into your caste system which was accepted as a new caste, such are the wonders of Indian societey. I think it was Malcome Muggridge who said that the last Englishman wil be an Indian, it looms very much in my thoughts today. From you posting I gather that you live somewhere in the region of the Punjab. Please keep safe.

from above posting

One thing noticed this time is that a guy on one of the African teams (don't remember now which one) after a win, fell down on the ground to praise allah.
There were probably many more that did that, but I just happened to see that one on television!

These jihadis just can't stand to see infidels doing anything that they themselves are miserable at.

------This is true, a few years ago, one of the Muslim countries (May have been Iran) executed the entire soccer team after they arrived home after losing. This may have been the reason the man began praying after winning.

"we are ready to leave for the occupied territories and we ask our leaders to help us do so, so we can fight the criminal Zionists."

Well, go on then. What are you waiting for? Keep your heads up.

Mr. Holger Dansker,
Sir, you have posted some comments regarding afghanistan which are an absolute to anybody who wants to fight there. Among them was that even the British, during their colonial rule, were never able to control the territory that is called as afghanistan. And pakistan, made by muslims who wanted an islamic state out of Hindu India, have not, till date, been able to master the North West Frontier Province. (Recently they have been trying to make a road , but the balooches exterminated an entire Brigade HQ on the way never made news). And these folks are entirely anti iran. That zone, (the Taxila - Gandhar (kandhar) one, looks like something exceptional to me).

Can anyone remember the name of the English cricketer who described Pakistan as a country he wouldn't even want his mother-in-law to live in?

I consider football / soccer to be a much better "religion" than Islam. And it has more followers! I'm so sorry that it undermines your jihad...

Should have consulted google before asking: found this in an interview with Imran Khan - whose carrer is an interesting example of the interaction of sport and politics (as well as Muslim men and western women):

"He had a long-standing and bitter rivalry with Ian Botham, triggered apparently by Botham once remarking that he would not even send his mother-in- law to Pakistan for the winter. It culminated in 1996 when Botham and Allan Lamb sued Imran unsuccessfully for libel after he accused them in a newspaper column of racism and ball-tampering."

racism and ball-tampering

Not cricket.

Since I don't care much for soccer anyways, I'm happy to see this thread morph into a cricket thread. Holger, nice to read your account.

WallyUK, I was a fan of England cricket for a while, until I moved to the US. Pakistan and England have that special relationship that far exceed's Ian Botham's mother-in-law comment. In 1987, there was a major dispute between Mike Gatting and Shakoor Rana, which almost resulted in the tour being canned, until the Dhimmi British government prevailed on the TCCB to apologize and continue.

To steer somewhat back to the subject of jihad, a few years ago, Pakistan was embroilled in a major investigation of their cricket team over match fixing, and as a result of that, a number of their players were fined. Following that investigation, Imran Khan called for an investigation as to how gambling could take place in an Islamic society like Pakistan. Yep, that's thier solution - they weren't Islamic enough.

Speaking of the Saved Sect, one of their affiliates, the ex-leader of the UK branch of Omar Bakri Muhammad's Al-Muhajiroun, and key organiser of the Danish Cartoon Riot Moslem Integration Project Anjem Choudry was yesterday fined £500 for his actions in calling for the violent overthrow of the British government, and wholesale mass slaughter of non-Moslem citizenry.

The fine, equivalent to around two weeks state welfare benefits, will no doubt be considered a resounding blow against the global Jihad amongst UK law enforcers and death-wish mujahideen alike, and sends a staunch message to any like-minded treasoners that they can run, they can hide, they can leach tens of thousands in Legal Aid, use the international media as a platform for their genocidal propaganda while using the Metropolitan police force as personal bodygaurds, but eventually, many many months later, we'll get 'em, and justice will prevail.

£500. That'll teach 'em.

The simple fact is Botham was right, nobody in his right mind would send his Mother-in-law to Pakistan. I know I have been there, and I deffinately wouldn't send my Kids to be educated using the parrot system of education that seems to be in vogue there at the moment. The only difference being that if the parrot forgets its lines you don' t beat it with a stick. Cricket is being ruined by this PC attitude. I remember when Freddie Truman was bowling in a test match many years ago and the captain Peter May missed a catch off Freddies bowling the ball going between his leg, on apologising to Freddie said I should have kept my legs together to which Freddie replied its was a bloody pity your mother didn't. I hate to think what sort of fire storm that would create if that happened now.

Mr. Holger Dansker,
Sir, you have posted some comments regarding Afghanistan which are an absolute to anybody who wants to fight there.

Dear Arjun,
the simple fact is nobody in his right mind would want to fight there, the fact that the English fought there was because the real gateway to India is the Khyber pass not the arch of that name in Bombay. Starting from the top is my memory serves me correct you have the pathan as genial a set of vilians you could ever wish to meet. When I was in Peswhar I was escorted into a shop where the only goods that were on sale were hash and I don't mean kilos I mean tons and guns and ammunition enough to start a small war most of which were home made copies, this was before the kalasnikovs flooded the market, and ruined the do it yourself trade. Then you have the Waziris and then the Balooches with there silly hats throw in a few more tribes and stir throw in a few Ghazi fanatics for spice and you have a witches brew that nobody in there right mind would want to touch. I have said before that the British fought three wars there during the 19th and 20th century non of which ended satisfactorily and the British were using some of the best mountain troops in the world the Gurkha and the Sikhs for most of there expeditions. The British ended up bombing them with mustard gas during the twenties and thirties of the last century. I am not surprised that the Baloochees have wiped out a brigade HQ. I didn't mind having a Pathan in the same room with me, as long as I had my back to the wall, but I didn't want to be in the same county with a Balooch. Arjun go to Project Gutenberg .org there you can download for free Sir Winston Churchill book “ The Mallakand relief force” I read the book a few months ago, what surprised me was how so little had changed over the years since he wrote the book and when I was wandering alone up in that neck of the woods. I have told many friends that I have seen in an Afghan village a muzzle load artillery piece which would have don't sterling service in the American Civil War, which they must have captured from the British sometime in the middle of the 19th century, they used to fire it occasional, do you think anybody believes me. They are living in a time warp. The only solution is to put a 10 meter high fence around the whole area, charge it up to 10,000 volts and let them ferment for a few hundred years. If they cause trouble a few daisy cutter should be enough to keep them quiet.

"The only solution is to put a 10 meter high fence around the whole area, charge it up to 10,000 volts and let them ferment for a few hundred years."

I remember reading that the French tried that in Algeria in the 1960's. Fried a few jihadis, but one learns in the Army that an obstacle that is not kept under observation and covered by planned indirect or direct fires is reduced or bypassed by the enemy. Obstacles are only set up to slow enemy movement to subject them to the aforementioned firepower, not to stop them cold.

Given time, any fortification or hindrance can be overcome. Initiative lies with the offense.

Can anyone remember the name of the English cricketer who described Pakistan as a country he wouldn't even want his mother-in-law to live in?

Posted by: wallyUK at July 5, 2006 02:51 PM

It was Ian Botham, the great English all-rounder who said the above.

Mr. Holger Dansker,
Sir, I absolutely agree with your observations. No one in his right mind would want to go to that witches' cauldron. The pathans, balooches, waziris et al are some of the most violent people on earth. They are not the taliban. And they put the fear of the living dead in taliban says volumes about their ferocity. I also find it peculiar that they cherish their tribal identity more than their islamic one. Before 9/11, pakistan actively supported taliban against the forces of ahmed shah masoud, leader of the Northern Alliance, only to weaken these tribes since the balooches and waziris will not be governed by the punjabi muslims that compose the pakistani army and leadership. There is also the historical fact that pakistan and iran both did not try any misadventures into afghanistan prior to the taliban simply because these tribes with their ancient .303s were more efficient in wiping out pakistani army wielding automatic weapons. I have only read about it, not actually gone there like yourself, but I was very surprised when the U.S. forces sent the Green Berets for the first ground invasion.(they sustained a lot of damage, I think). I am no military expert, but I did think that arming the Northern Alliance and telling them to go ahead was the best option, since the NA was offering to do the job. But the policy makers learned this the hard way, by letting the GB be cannon fodder. They did come to their senses and let NA go ahead after their first debacle, which was wholly unnecessary. The only way one can fight these tribes is the one that you mentioned above, and which the British employed ultimately.
Gun making is still a cottage industry in afghanistan. Now they make their own Kalashnikovs, even, and they still have those .303s and the ancient cannons as well. These people are beyond all hope, and your suggestion of an electrified fence is a very sensible one. Which is why it will never be adopted by the powers that be.