This editorial, or "analysis" from the Islamic Republic News Agency offers a look into the distorted lens through which Iran views the present conflict between Israel and Hizballah. Their twisted version of reality would be endlessly amusing if it weren't the basis for policies and aspirations that pose such a threat to the rest of the world.
Israeli attempts to destroy the Islamic resistance of Lebanon overnight turned to a full-scale war Israel has unleashed against innocent civilians of Lebanon.
The occupying regime of Israel used taking two Israeli soldiers as captives by Hizbollah as a pretext to embark on aggression on Lebanon from the air, ground and the sea.
The occupiers in Tel Aviv thought that they would implement the plan for destroying Hizbollah within three or five days and make preparations for other targets against regional states.
But, the Zionist occupiers did not know that Lebanese resistance movement enjoys popular support. They did not know military power of Hizbollah and were not aware of their own capability as well.
They have admitted after two weeks of heavy and destructive bombardment of Lebanon that they could not attain their goals despite heavy price they paid for their savage attacks.
Now, the Zionist regime's military and political people have begun to criticize each other for such a failure to the extent that American media have disclosed the differences in the occupied territories despite [the fact that] Israel had appealed for censorship of the news about Lebanon conflict.
Israeli so-called political people say that the military officers have not provided them with accurate information and have dragged the occupying regime to a war with dark future bringing mishap for the Zionists.
In contrast, the military people describe the political people as lacking enough courage to press ahead with great targets! The feedback from confrontation of resistance movement of Lebanon with the armed-to-the-teeth military of the occupying regime has surprised the observers.
The Zionist regime enjoying billions of dollars worth of military supplies of the US and Britain every year has now drawn to a desperation.
[...]
The international community should fulfill its obligation to end the current crisis which may engulf other areas and find regional and international dimensions.
The international community has realized that it should stop bloodshed in Lebanon and the only way out of the current tragedy is establishment of an immediate ceasefire.
The United Nations and majority of the countries are calling for ceasefire, but, the United States and Israeli leaders are opposing.
So... they're desperate for a ceasefire, but they're opposed to a ceasefire... and Iran wants that same ceasefire that Israel is "desperate" for as well, because Israel is losing. Gotcha.
This indicates the real nature of the US and Israel.
If Israel was really putting it to them, all of lebanon would be in shambles. I for one would love to see real shock and awe. But Israel won't, not at this time.
Norwegian Newspaper Depicts Olmert as a Nazi
01:06 Jul 28, '06 / 3 Av 5766
(IsraelNN.com) Norway's largest daily newspaper Dagbladet has published a caricature of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert dressed in a Nazi uniform inside a death camp.
Above the gate to the camp is a sign in Norwegian that means "each one gets what he deserves." In front of the caricature of the Prime Minister are bodies of exterminated Arabs. Prime Minister Olmert is shown as laughing and holding a sniper gun in his hands http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=108563
. Anyone who would ever call a JEW a Nazi...Has no soul...Just a shell of person with no life in them!... THIS IS SICK....I AM SURE YOU WILL FIND ISLAM BEHIND THIS SOMEHOW.
Gee, this isn't the story that anti-Israel, anti-American, anti-Jewish Reuters and the Baghdad Broadcasing Company in the UK are reporting! My my my! Perhaps we should send the link to these news agencies, so they can see what they are failing to report?
AlMartinez, maybe they should save the shock and awe for Tehran and Damascus?
While I'm still here, I'll compare hamas, hezbolla, iran, syria and their ilk to the school bully. They sneak a punch here a kick there, murder innocent people. They laugh and mock your peaceful disposition, finnally when you've had enough and start beating the ever loving shit out of them. They scream you started it all, someone please get them off me.
Fortunately, the iranian and al-queda gasbags aren't as smart as the saudis, and are therefore far less dangerous in the long run. In the short run, however, they might even cause enough havoc to awaken the slumbering infidels. If that happens, the whole game could change, even for the saudis.
On Foxnews at 3:00PM EST ago, they were reporting that the US is asking Israel to 'consider including the Sheba Farms (in the Golan Heights) as a part of any deal with Lebanon'.
Are they insane? Why are they pressurizing Israel right now to negotiate about anything? This is along the lines of getting an independent i.e. Islamized Kosovo - discussed here. Who else is the US going to sell out? Why doesn't the president formally take the shehada, so that we all know where he kneels er, stands?
I understand that with a media environment, the war may appear to be dragging on longer than expected, or less successfully than expected, but why are there any constraints at all on the IDF? Let them do whatever is needed, including have UNIFIL leave, and launch a no-holds barred assault on Hizbullah, without taking pains to minimize civilian casualities. If innocent Lebanese civilians die, let it be recognized that their blood is on the hands of Hizbullah, and the Lebanese government that refused to disarm them like everyone else. And please - no more hostage exchanges!
Also, Sheba Farms is a part of the Golan Heights, annexed by Israel, and therefore, properly, Israeli terretory. No negotiations need happen with the Syrian thugs on that. If Syria's going to make trouble, level Damascus, Hama and Latakia, and let there be a civil war there - Alawite vs Sunni. And Israel do what it needs to finish the war - at a time of their choosing.
This is a war! Declare it, Israel, and then fight it! It doesn't end until your enemy is destroyed.
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but I guess the director of "Islam: What the West Needs to Know" is going to be on 'Hannity and Colmes' tonight, 18:00 PST.
I'm not sure if it's this movie, all I caught of the ad was that he was the director of a "controversial new movie" on islamic terrorism.
Oh yeah, H&C is on FoxNews, in case ya didn't know.
With constant vacilation, weakness, disunity in the Israeli leadership, perhaps more concerned about short term political gain, standing in the US, wanting to buffet their Nobel Prize, ect, is it a surprise? W gives the Israelis a greenlight to wipe out Hezbullah. One could argue, I certainly would, that Nasrallah has and is 'delivering.' Is Israel acting like a strategic asset? For all the faults of 1982 and the Israeli's Lebanese War, it acted quickly, with great force, ditto '67 and when the shock cleared '73, but not now. W gives Israel, a country viewed(until now) as a strategic asset, to change the dynamic. It, Israel, is blinking. Criticism will grow, Hezbullah will be emboldened, Israel will most likely agree to the give-a-way land for peace scheme of the S. Farms. In a few years, Hezbullah will be on their "liberated" territory.
One might wonder just what goes through the Israeli leaders minds? Will the US protect them? Surely, the world will not allow another decimation of the Jewish Peoople? One wonders what the import of August 22, 2006 is for Iran? Another milestone in the nuclear race? One might ask what purpose Hebullah has in this whole scenario?????? Perhaps a single missle or two with a nuclear payload ?????
One could argue, coldly, hey, too bad, Israel has bad leaders, so be it, not our problem. Of course, Jihad is not a static 'thing.' It grows, it ebbs, it is shattered, on the defence, or emboldened(The Soviet Withdraw). What will the forces of global Jihad think about a weakened Israel, losing her strategic value, givina away more land . . . in such circumstances??? This, my friends, is our problem. A very big problem.
Bush is telegraphing his wishes, but to his surprise, Israel will not stomp out Hezbullah. To kill it. Maim her. Wipe out all missles. Put thousands in jail. Re-jigger the Lebanese dynamic. When Netanya or Tel Aviv are hit, the "red line" crossed and the rhetoric and deterrent value of Olmert's words will lose what little value thay have. Perhaps more pointed talk is necessary from W. Perhaps threats, behind the scenes: "look we give you billions in military aid, use it, finish it, protect yourselves." I write all of this as a strong supporter of Israel.
"Norwegian Newspaper Depicts Olmert as a Nazi"
You filthy normans, you pillaged dutch, belgian and french villages.
If you support islam your payback time will come.
We didn't forget the atrocities you committed, filthy robbers!
As far as the Iranian media is concerned remember there is NEVER any good reason for believing anything a Muslims says or writes. Muslims are too disconnected by far from the workings of the universe to have much credibility on anything (even when dealing with each other) for instance the Kuran teaches the world is FLAT which most of them probably believe, and secondly owing to the concept of taqiyya almost any communications Muslims have with non-Muslims is almost certain to be lies.
Forget about putting stock in the Iranian media. It looks to me like a massive waste except possibly as a study in propaganda.
The press are doing a really bad job on all this.
Exception: FoxNews.
A few good writers and commentators who are brave and fearless, but they are few and far between.
It would be silly for Israel to give back anything - where did it get them in the past? More wars!
I just hope more people are beginning to see what is really going on here - a clash of civilizations and time is running out.Get rid of the UN before they wreck the whole world!
Please check out this site: It states facts that should be mandatory reading in islamic countries:
AS IF!!
http://www.conceptwizard.com/info.html
Re: Iranian media: Israel in desperation to agree to ceasefire & "Their twisted version of reality would be endlessly amusing if it weren't the basis for policies and aspirations that pose such a threat to the rest of the world."
Absolutely. The mind-set that underestimated Israeli anger and then the no-nonsense response to Hizbollah provocation in Gaza is at work in this matter too. I think much of this bad judgement is rooted in a Submission unwillingness to separate fact from belief. Fact-belief melt into one thing in the Submission mind so that even intelligent Muslims tend to be off the wall on matters of reality and judgement. (This is a matter of their will-of choice.)
The real danger Israel faces comes from the "cease-fire" parrots that are everywhere (United Nothings, Europe, Etc.). The US and Israel have to turn a deaf ear to the parrots and rip the guts out of Hizbollah. Asking the Israelis to go easy on Hizbollah is like asking the Russians to go easy on the Nazis at Stalingrad.
Actually, it's "Obsession" they're talking about.
PS link wasn't quite right but check out the "history in a nutshell" ,,and the other stuff also.
Eisenhund-
That's it. Exactly, perfect. "Obsession". And any obsession will distort a person's perception of reality.
Hannity & Colmes on Fox News tonight was inundated with genuflections to Moderate Moslems. Colmes, a Jew, almost broke his back bending over to maintain a careful delineation between mainstream Moslems and radical Moslems, whatever either of these concepts are.
610 * 623 * 732* 1066* 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001
When this pig farmer goes into a horse trade, alarm bells go off if the mention of Unicorns is injected into the negotiation. This is why I call my self Alarmed Pig Farmer, after all.
Sean Hannity is a subintellectual self-important moron. Alan Colmes is a turncoat Jew, of which there is an oversupply right now. Alan is to Jewry what John Kerry was, and is, to loyal Americans, including loyal American Jews, of which there are many.
APF- Agree.
Final thought added to my 9:16 comment.
If the Israelis listen to the "cease-fire" parrots and Hizbollah does not have it's guts torn out, Hizbollah wins. If Hizbollah survives with 20% of its pre-conflict military force intact-it's a defeat for Israel. They must be completely destroyed as a military force. Then Syria and Iran become a manageable problem.
Hizbollah is Dar-al-islam's Nazi 6th Army at Stalingrad. It's a turning point for Israel-one way or another. The Hizbollah Terminator must be destroyed so he will not say, "I'll be back."
biorabbi:
Why shouldn't Israel be reluctant to press the war further? Bush hasn't promised Israel any help in case Israel provokes Syria into entering the war. So why should Israel be eager to do all the bleeding for Bush's geopolitical objectives?
Bush should put his money where his mouth is and get the U.S. Air Force and Navy strike aircraft to cut the supply lines from Syria to Hezbollah, so Israel doesn't have to.
I also don't know what the heck Bush is doing about Iran right now. Bush should have put enough aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean to remind Iran that if they launch anything between now and August 22, that will be the end of them. If Bush had done that, I'm sure we would have heard about it by now.
-APF,
I see you got the same impression as I did. Falling all over themselves in desperation to worship at the "tiny minority of extremists" altar.
Eisenhund, because the essential function, cut through all the nobility, of a state is to protect its citizens. Israel is not some basket case, hiding under the US apron. More important, it is crucial not to appear so in their neighborhood. Perhaps Israel cannot attack Iran directly, but it can decimate Hezbullah, decapitating Iran's "Lebanese" launch pad(s). This is the point. Israel can and must take care of her immediate threat. The looming Iranian bomb only highlights the crucial task of killing Hezbullah. Is Israel so naive to have thought they wouldn't be hated and vilified for using even modest means to date? They would be criticized had they done nothing at all. That is the point. Condi is handling Olmert with talk of restraint, limited ground operations and "peace" minus Shava Farms. What will that begat?
The real question is this: how is Israel to be viewed? As a military asset? with a strong, long deterrant arm a-la-a M Begin, or as a strategic liability? as Turkish Christians or Lebanese Christians, cowering before their Islamist mater? Yes, Israel will garner the support of well intentioned people(s) out of sentiment, out of her place as a bastion of goodness in a sea of hell, but is that enough? The country is being attacked by thousands of missles, the economy on hold, peoples lives in bomb shelters, while Olmert prays the 'happy talk' from Condi continues. Better for Israel to regain its strength and reputation for toughness against an unforgiving enemy and be condemmed without veto in the UN, than the alternative.
I am upset as well because Israel--of all people--should know better. Would her reputation suffer if she invaded Lebanon all the way to S. Beirut, killing every Hezbullah thug in sight? Would Kofi hate her more? would China? Would anti-semites hate the Jews more? Would Pat Buchanan chastise her again? Bottom line: Israel's friends are her friends; her haters will not change their stripes. For Israel in anyway to capitulate to Jihad is a loss to us all. I was sickened by a young female Pali apologist on FOX today. She was full of glee: "everyone opposes Israel." She's right. So what does it matter if Israel throws restraint to the wind? A all day, all night hate fest at the UN?? Who cares.
And if Israel defeats Hezbullah. And if she goes it alone and destroys Iran's nuclear program by stealth, knocking it back down the tracks by five years, then what? Universal condemnation. The state department and his Father would handcuff W to condem Israel. So what? Jihad will be set back. The Muslims will be humiliated(it's about time), and the world will sleep peacefully(including the house of saud).
Considering what a good pounding Hizb'u'allah is taking, Iran's response is pretty lame. The real casualty count for their positions may be over 1000, and counting. Missile capabilities should show lesser numbers coming over the fence as the batteries are taken out. Israeli fighting capability is killing them, but it ain't done till it's done.
Iran's is bluffing, toothless posturing. Maybe waiting for the 'miraculous' appearance of their Mahdi, August 21st? So they try to make the winning side look bad, claiming they have bad intelligence. So? Bad intelligence means you hit more targets, to make sure you got all the cockroaches hiding deep in their bunkers. Meanwhile, they leave their women, children, and elderly topside for good media effect. Noble, huh? But not 'noble savages', just savages. Their mythical Mahdi won't save them, and neither will their navy or air force. Whatever they're cooking in their nuclear labs is more likely to hurt them. Didn't their minnie-Hitler-Mahmoud just visit Tajikistan? Probably angling for another good nuke test site. I wouldn't underestimate this small man's mad ambitions, but in the end, what can he really do? Their fighting proxy in Lebanon is being taken out, and they know it. I'd expect them to sue for (10 year Sunna legal) peace, crying on EU's shoulder, to make Israel stop. They miscalculated this little adventure, so now they need more time. But next time, they'll be in the target, especially with nukes.
We need bigger explosions from Hizbuallah positions, to know we got good hits. Where are the bunker busters? You got to reach deep, make them shed tears and rip their hair as their 'martyrs' go to millions of virgins in the sky. The media is the question here. Do they know Hizbuallah is using human shields for big body counts? I hope they do. Meanwhile "Thank God, and pass the ammunition." Israel will finish the job. Neither Iran, nor Syria, have anything to say about it, except to posture for 'Arab street.' So? Let them riot to exhaustion. Who cares? This battle goes to the Israeli side. Then clean out a swatch of their border for the non-too-effective UNEU troops to take the watch. On step at a time, but this is one big step in the war against Jihad. Glad US is staying out of this fight, don't need them. The fact Iran's crying is impressive. Good job Israel.
Uh, biorabbi? You might want to go back and look at the author of the post to which you were replying. I don't think it was mine. Perhaps you've not seen any of my previous posts. I take positive glee whenever I hear about mohammedan savages eradicated anywhere in the world by anyone. I've never mentioned anywhere that Israel is hiding beneath America's apron or any words to that effect. I'd rather the US Gov. would shut the hell up and let the IDF turn the southern Lebanese ground to mud with Hezzy blood while concurrently renovating south Beirut with American supplied ordnance.
Sorry to rain on the Anti-Islam parade here but 54% of Lebanese Christians supported the abduction of the Israeli soldiers. In another poll, 75% of Lebanese Christians indicate that they support Hezbollah in the current war while about 20% favoured Israel.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743948.html
Sorry to rain on the Anti-Islam parade here but 54% of Lebanese Christians supported the abduction of the Israeli soldiers. In another poll, 75% of Lebanese Christians indicate that they support Hezbollah in the current war while about 20% favoured Israel.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743948.html
... but we've got a problem here, not all Moslems are fascists.
--- Billl O'Reilly to Sen. Santorum on Fox News
This level of ignorance, stupdity, intellectual laziness, and irresponsibility is an object lesson why the Harvard Public Adminsitration college set up under Sen. Ted Kennedy's tutelage must be blown off as a stupid mistake. Literally.
What a worthless load of crap Harvard is. Bad scholarship. Bad thinking. Bad writing. Bad alumni. What could be worse in an academy.
It was amusing watching that pretty young thing on O'Reilly. I couldn't help but laugh at the lies after lies that came out of her mouth.
"Occupied territories", blah, blah, blah.
What a waste.
So why are UNIFIL soldiers still there ? Smack in the middle of the battle with no orders to shoot at hizbollah ? And getting killed.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,19933228-5006029,00.html
>>>It was amusing watching that pretty young thing on O'Reilly. I couldn't help but laugh at the lies after lies that came out of her mouth.
"Occupied territories", blah, blah, blah.
What a waste.
Posted by: Eisenhund
http://www.spa.gov.sa/English/cdetails.php?id=378151
A STATEMENT BY THE ROYAL COURT
IT ALSO WARNS ALL THAT IF THE PEACE OPTION IS REJECTED DUE TO THE ISRAELI ARROGANCE THEN ONLY THE WAR OPTION REMAINS AND NO ONE KNOWS THE REPERCUSSIONS BEFALLING THE REGION, INCLUDING WARS AND CONFLICT THAT WILL SPARE NO ONE INCLUDING THOSE WHOSE MILITARY POWER IS NOW TEMPTING THEM TO PLAY WITH FIRE.
I see that last sentence as a warning to Iran.
Arjun, thanks for that link to Andrew Bolt's article. He is spot on all the time.
I email him frequently.You can post on his 'blog.
Yesterday on LGF he "was mentioned in dispatches". I told him I was thrilled to see his name there, and so was he!
Also check out Piers Akerman; another straight shooter!
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytele/comments/the_threat_hezbollah_poses_is_catastrophic/
By Piers Akerman
Saturday, July 22, 2006 at 12:00pm
HEZBOLLAH flags flew at rallies in Sydney and Melbourne last week. Hezbollah’s TV station, Al-Manar, was broadcast into Australia, spreading racist hatred and advocating violence, until its backer went broke last year.
Its headquarters were in southern Beirut until a few days ago, when an Israeli attack forced it to move.
Hezbollah is a proscribed terrorist organisation in the European Union, the US and here.
Any sensible person who has seen what has happened since Hezbollah attacked Israel would realise that this group is solely responsible for the mayhem.
Although some Australians waiting to be evacuated from Beirut are blaming the Australian Government for their plight, surely their outrage would be more effective if it were directed to Hezbollah’s leader, Hassan Nasrallah, or to his Iranian masters, the real engineers of this catastrophe.
Not to put too fine a point on it, there is a direct line running from Ayatollah Khomeini’s installation of an Islamist theocracy in Iran to Hezbollah today - Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt are fully and fearfully aware of it.
Hezbollah’s abduction of two Israeli soldiers was not a one-off incident. It was part of a strategy designed to re-ignite the Middle East, and the flag-wavers in Melbourne and Sydney are willing dupes in this operation.
The turbanned team in Tehran does not recognise Israel’s right to exist any more than it recognises the rights of women or the rights of those who don’t follow Islam.
They want to see Israel drawn into a war of attrition which, they hope, will sap the commitment of support it enjoys from liberal democracies such as the US, Britain and Australia.
Unfortunately, they may get their wish if any of the missiles they have given Hezbollah strike the oil refineries surrounding the Israeli port of Haifa. Such a hit would not only create an ecological disaster but would kill tens of thousands of civilians.
Not that Hezbollah has ever shied from murdering civilians - that’s its modus operandi. It’s notan army, it’s a militia.
Its forces don’t wear uniforms or abide by any conventions, Geneva, Paris or Lakemba.
Conventions don’t apply to those who claim to be on a jihad dedicated to furthering Islam, as their banner-bearers in Australia well know.
Hezbollah, like the Palestinian terrorist group Hamas, has always used civilians as shields, setting up its arsenals in schools and hospitals, using ambulances to ferry its bombs and ammunition, establishing its headquarters in mosques.
It wants the civilian toll to rise - on both sides of the conflict - but it wants to blame Israel for the bloodshed, and most media organisations are more than happy to play along in this charade.
Ethicists have been excited by the buzzword “proportionality’’, but what proportional force would they suggest is reasonable to respond to an attack by a missile loaded with ball bearings, whose technology has been developed by the Chinese, is manufactured in Iran, armed in Syria and fired by Hezbollah from Lebanon?
The Lebanese government is powerless against Hezbollah’s occupying force, the Syrian government is acquiescent, and the Iranians are the masterminds.
The Chinese see a larger picture entirely; they are addicted to Iranian oil, and are prepared to prostitute themselves to keep it flowing, even to the extent of providing Pakistani-developed nuclear technology.
Hezbollah and Hamas subscribe to the suicide bombers’ mantra: we love death, you love life, therefore we will win.
These groups don’t flinch when they strap suicide vests on to children; indeed, they ensure their love of death and hatred of the West is inculcated from the cradle.
Much of the West has refused torecognise this reality until the terrorists struck at their hearts.
The US, like Australia, is a migrant nation that has for centuries welcomed the contributions of those seeking abetter life. In Britain, a growing Muslim population has been accommodated and provided for.
United Nations secretary-general Kofi Annan has not deserted his customarily craven position, calling on Israel to exercise restraint.
But Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza last year. It provides hospital care for those injured by suicide bombers, be they Palestinians or Israelis, and is unquestionably the injured party in this crisis.
Hezbollah has announced it has chemical and biological weapons, and has shown it can destroy the Haifa refineries.
Should it use this weaponry or devastate Israel’s economy, it’s a near-certainty Israel will attack Tehran’s nuclear program, just as it destroyed Iraq’s nuclear reactor in June, 1981.
In the face of the threat posed by Hezbollah, the world must prepare for this eventuality.
Australians cannot become hostage to this evil. They must understand that in this conflict, Israel is our ally in the pursuit ofliberty and freedom.
The foul malevolence represented by Iran and its murderous accomplices is beyond contemplation.
As lunatic as the Iranians may be, they are matched in their insanity by those among us who carry Hezbollah’s banner here.
Latest from Piers. I would like to mention that many young Aussie lebanese men couldn't wait to get out of Lebanon as they feared conscription due to dual citizenship!
By Piers Akerman
Friday, July 28, 2006 at 11:38am
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytele/comments/namer_was_fighting_to_keep_world_safe/
ANOTHER young Australian has been killed fighting in the global war against Islamist terrorists but he will certainly not be the last.
Assaf Namer, 27, wasn’t killed in Afghanistan or Iraq, he wasn’t a passive victim of the Bali bombings or 9/11.
He was killed as he fought with the Israeli army during a fierce battle against the Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.
Born in Israel, he moved to Australia when he was 12 but returned to fight for the nation of his birth. He was a dual citizen.
No doubt there will be some who claim he must have had divided loyalties. Others might try to claim there is some moral equivalence between Namer and self-confessed terrorist recruit David Hicks.
However there is no basis for this absurd claim.
Australians are fighting jihadists like Hicks in Afghanistan and Iraq, Namer was fighting them in southern Lebanon.
Bint Jbeil, where he was killed was a terrorist stronghold.
It may have been the command post for the Hezbollah raid into Israel which Iran and Syria used to trigger the current conflict with the abduction of two Israeli soldiers just over a fortnight ago.
It doesn’t matter.
Hezbollah effectively controls Lebanon and Tehran and Damascus have decided to use the struggling nation as the staging ground for their proxy war against Israel and the civilised West, and the Israelis were entirely within in their rights to pursue the criminals who kidnapped their citizens.
Namer was engaged in the battle the jihadists vow to prosecute until the whole world is converted to its violent Islamist doctrine.
And as long as the jihadists continue to claim “We love death, you love life”, offering no future for their orphaned children but a world filled with hate, others who believe in an alternate world, a world of peace and harmony between people of all races and religions like Namer, like our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, will enlist to fight to keep the world safe from their evil.
They can promise no prospect of peace, no one can, but they do offer to stand between civilians and those who would kill them for refusing to accept their hateful ideology.
Ryan:
Not too sure what you may be smoking but trying to claim the the Christians support islam and exalt Muhammad as the last prophet is really going out on a limb.
Next you'll cite a survey that 40% of the rabbi's aren't jewish.
Israel needs to understand that the United Nations is just another League of Nations. They should stick their fingers in their ears before listening to Arab-sucking UN.
Ryan:
Not too sure what you may be smoking but trying to claim the the Christians support islam and exalt Muhammad as the last prophet is really going out on a limb.
Next you'll cite a survey that 40% of the rabbi's aren't jewish.
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BTW, looks like the UN wants to avoid an investigation to show Hezbollah using their Peacekeeprs as shields for attacks on civilians in Israel.
The 4 UNIFIL's weren't Muslims so is it any shock that the UN wants to wish this away to a occupational-hazzard .
* Security Council fails to condemn attack on UN post
Updated Thu. Jul. 27 2006 11:32 PM ET
AP-CP
UNITED NATIONS -- The UN Security Council unanimously approved a weak statement Thursday expressing shock and distress at Israel's bombing of a UN post on the Lebanon border that killed four unarmed military observers, including a Canadian.
After a day and night of wrangling over a response to Tuesday's attack, all 15 council members agreed on the watered-down statement, which was the first by the Security Council since fighting between Israel and Lebanon's Hezbollah guerrillas began on July 12.
Gramfan wrote:
Hezbollah effectively controls Lebanon and Tehran and Damascus have decided to use the struggling nation as the staging ground for their proxy war against Israel and the civilised West, and the Israelis were entirely within in their rights to pursue the criminals who kidnapped their citizens.
How true Gramfan. Israel has already caught on to this and are finally doing something about it. The future of their country demands that they take strong action.
I am not pleased with the U.S. foreign policy towards Iran. The United States should take a tougher position towards Iran. European nations should grow some hair on their chests and not be afraid to use confrontation instead of diplomacy. A nuclear Iran will be much more difficult to deal with than a non-nuclear Iran.
Ryan:
Christian Lebanese communities are being used as a human shields by Hizballah and are a launching site for attacks against Israel.
Want to poll these Christians about how well they support Hizbollah?
Read:http://mychristianblood.blogspirit.com/archive/2006/07/23/hizballah-sub-contracts-palestinian-launch-squads-uses-chris.html#more
Jonathan:
The PFLP is a predominantly Greek Orthodox group that was founded by Christian George Habash. It is a secular group with leftist goals. It's not "islamonazi" or whatever that site claims.
APF and Eisenhund
I'm watching the replay just now. Nonie Darwish was fantastic. I just wish Wayne Kopping didn't play into Colmes' hands in being an apologist for Islam. He did mention, though, that he didn't show a bulk of the stuff he had.
Colmes' e-mail is colmes@foxnews.com , while Hannity is hannity@foxnews.com . If you want to let them know what you think of their stupid apologetics for Islam, let them know. I agree with both of you about both Hannity and Colmes. I don't know who is more aggravating, Hannity with his freedom concerts and jaded templates about not opposing the president during the time of war, or Colmes, who's only too happy to cover up, as he did in the following segment when he kept plugging their 'moderate' credentials.
If we wiin the war against Jihad, can we claim war 'booty?' If so, I get first dibs on that lovely Pali on O'reilley. I'd take her to Vegas, take her has my alloted war booty concubine, and let her lounge around in lingerae while I recite recent Jihad Watch articals. Maybe get her to dance. It's late. I'm tired, so I'm just kidding. I think=) Maybe O'Reilley got her to belly dance. Probably not since he's been in trouble with the ladies before.
Assalamau-Laikum all,
Despite all their efforts Isreal yet has failed to put much of a dent to Hizb. I just read here in Pak today that Tony Blair is going to the US for trying to broker an immediate ceasefire.
A ceasefire ofcourse means that Israel has lost. If the handsome Nisrullah is not killed it is a loss for Israel.
Worse a ceasefire means Israel must talk to Nisrullah on getting out of Lebonan. No doubt that he has a holiday home in Tehran which he can retreat to for a couple of years ONLY to be back firing larger rockets and also having a nucleur missile in his backpocket to "spice" things up.
In talking to Nisrullah politically, Isreal ofcourse has immediately been brought down to the level of the terrorist...imagine that...having to "negotiate" terms with hizb...which in reality means negotiating with Tehran.
All will have seen that Isreal no longer posses the detterence it used to have ...but still the political map has changed somewhat...and Isreal does not need to have what they used to and should use that to it's advantage.
With the rise of power of the shia in Tehran with sterling support from Syria...the sunni is afraid for the 1st time. They fear the shia ...and paradoxically hope that the infedel can keep him down..because the sunni cannot.
Infact countries like Jordon and Saudi WANT Israel to win inshallah ....only so that Israel can be a buffer between Shia and the Sunni. Let Israel take the losses, let the jews be killed..at the same time this keeps us sunni safe...(nod, nod ...wink wink.....assalamau-Laikum to the Jew what!).
If Israel loses...so does the sunni...Can Israel exploit this...in any ceasefire agreement...bring in the sunni...make them part of this multinational force...their very existence depends on the Shia no expanding.
To my mind it is the shia that is the most dangereous... but does the infedel know this?
Naseem
More than 90% of Islam is Sunni - the Shia are as vicious, but no way are they more dangerous. And they don't hesitate to gang up when required. Don't give us the Sunni-hate-Shia-more-than-Kafir routine.
So you are a Sunni now? While you wish for all Kafirs to become Ahmadiya? Bad, bad girlAlso, since Anwer shor is with his 72 wild slutty womens, why don't you become the handsome Nasrallah's latest wife?
Assalamau-Laikum IP,
You certainly have the cheek of an infedel don't you!
No I am certainly NOT a sunni...I am simply expressing that for the 1st time in the history of Islam...the Shia has power over the sunni....i.e. more regional power possibly than the sunni.
This has led the sunni to think laterally about his position and his safety ...and who better to "get protection from" than that reliable source ...the infedel.
You ask about my hopes. My hope as Ahmadi is that *at worst* is to have huge amounts of wuslims.. who as they have grown in the West are more tolerant to the Ahmadi.
My best scenario is that more & more of these wuslims are Ahmadi and that I have convinced many of you that when you convert ...it is as an Ahmadi.
As to your other remarks...you didn't know what a kind hearted and gentle man Anwer was...so you are in no position to comment...I know that you are trying to goad me to say something really nasty to you...but I will resist as this involves Anwer.
Simply, Anwer (like me) detested violence and never talked about Jihad....nor(like me) did he believe that blatant lie abot 72 virgin womens (which no doubt some violent sunni Imam dreamed up)....so your comment goes straight over my head as it does not apply.
Finally, IP Nasrullah is a shia....the likely hood is that I will never marry again...but if I did, it will not be for a long time and it will be to an Ahmadi... never a shia or (allah forbid) a sunni no matter how handsome...you cheeky decendent of an ape.
The sheer arrogance of her narcissistic schizophrenia is stunning, isn't it? Besides, hubby wouldn't get any virgins anyway. Remember, in their cult, one has to murder at least one infidel (preferably while the latter is tied up and blindfolded, or congratulating the bride and groom, or having a slice of pizza, or guarding a checkpoint, or riding the bus to work) while screaming "allahu akbar!" to get into the land of rape and honey.
My first comment, in term of media, is simple. Our propaganda (and I believe, everything that has opinion within it is propaganda) must be better than theirs. Israel's PR is still in the elementary school phase, which is really puzzling.
I, as a jew and a homeland loving american living abroad, want to especially thank the christian right for it's support of Israel. A friend of mine told me years ago, "you watch, the day will come when you as a tribesman will be very thankful that the evangelicals are on the march" - and he was right. His words have been ringing in my ears for the last two weeks.
The second comment, in terms of killing Hizb'allah, is also simple. It is not as simple as one thinks. Israel is walking the best tightrope act that I have ever seen. When the dust has settled, Israel will need Lebanon as an ally and not as a foe. This means that simply destroying everything will not help in the long run
What we, the USA, should do, is step-in if the shipments of arms from Iran continue through Syria. Cut off their supply and establish a bitter embargo. Make them bleed....
brought to our attention is the above
"Norwegian Newspaper Depicts Olmert as a Nazi
01:06 Jul 28, '06 / 3 Av 5766
(IsraelNN.com) Norway's largest daily newspaper Dagbladet has published a caricature of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert dressed in a Nazi uniform inside a death camp.
Above the gate to the camp is a sign in Norwegian that means "each one gets what he deserves." In front of the caricature of the Prime Minister are bodies of exterminated Arabs. Prime Minister Olmert is shown as laughing and holding a sniper gun in his hands http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=108563"
The Norwegian reporter who presented this caricature should research history. (see the History channel Episode entitled "Sadaam and the Third Reich"). This documentary shows how the Baath Party (ARABS _ don't ya know)worked with the Nazis. It was the ARABS who worked with Adolf Eichmann and other Nazis in designing the concentration death camps. It was The Arabs, whose original plans called for Hitler to deport the Jews to the MiddleEast where they could be attacked by the Arabs. The Germans decided they would handle the Jews instead.
If anyone from the Middle East should be depicted as a Nazi, It should be the Arabs. The Norweigians are dhimmified (as is most of Europe) and wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them in their face.
The caricature with his foot on the dead Arabs should be a Hezbollah terrorist called Nasarallah.
Infidel Pride,
The stupid insults are just what they are. Stupid insults. I do think that naseem is writing what she honestly feels. I can 'sense' it, like so many other of us can who have lived around muslims. That was why I knew she was what she said she was. Don't you find it scary that she feels that it is certain that we all shall either convert or die ?
arjun.sevak-
You bet. She treats beliefs as fact. It's a mental illness. She's not a stupid gal-she's crazy.
from above,
"Muslims throughout Europe would protest and probably start slaughtering people at random as well."
The Muslims may be planning to just this, and the Euroweenies just do not see it.
Sounds like "Baghdad Bob" found himself a job at the Iranian Propaganda Ministry .. errrr... I mean Iranian "News Agency."
Naseem,
I keep telling myself to stop writing to you, but I can't seem to help myself. I have the same problem with beggars on the street. I feel the need to try and help.
Look - you need to understand that you are NOT a muslim in the eyes of the other 72 sects of Islam.
From 'The Official Website of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community'
http://www.alislam.org/library/73divisions/73-01.html
It is through God's Mercy that He sends down reformers to re-establish the true faith in the earth, these reformers are invariably faced with opposition and enmity from those around them. History abounds with such examples.
A similar reformation was started by Hadhrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (AS) in Indo-Pak subcontinent in late 1800's. He established the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam and claimed to be the Promised Mehdi and Messiah for Muslims. His purpose in establishing such a movement was to reform and collect a party of servants of Allah dedicated to the service of mankind and bringing people closer to Allah.
However, the religious divines of his time saw him as a threat to their beliefs and thus stepped up their opposition to his message. The greatest of opposition and persecution came from his fellow Muslims. Leaders of Muslim groups or Mullahs regarded Ahmadi Muslims to be out of the pale of Islam but their hostility did not stop there.
In 1953 the political expediencies of some Mullahs prompted to exploit the Ahmadiyya Muslim issue which resulted in the eruption of mob violence. This agitation was launched by Majlis-e-Ahrar which had no political career in Pakistan because of its anti-Pakistan stance during partition. They tried to use this issue to seek some political standing in newly established Muslim state by exploiting people's religious feelings a fact that was later established by Munir report. In 1974, seeing its grip loosening on the government, the party in power again staged a drama and exploited the same issue to turn the events in their favor. Being under tremendous pressure from King Faisal, according to The Guardian (UK) (9th Sept. 1974), Mr. Bhutto staged the Rabwah incidence and dumped the matter into the lap of national assembly which turned itself into a special committee. This committee invited the leaders of all the sects considered to be associated with the Islamic faith (72 in number) to hold a debate on the matter of Finality of prophethood (i.e. if a prophet could come after Muhammad, peace be upon him, or not) with the leadership of Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam. The proceedings of these hearings were never made public. At the end of this pseudo-hearing all the leaders of 72 sects unanimously declared Ahmadis to be non-Muslims, which the special committee adopted as an amendment to the constitution of 1973.
This information is directly from the people of your own sect. You are not part of ummah al-islamiyyah and they consider you infidel and najis.... look, that's okay - more than 4.5 billion people are with you. Realize what is against you. Free yourself and join us in fighting jihad - that site also says Love for All, Hatred for None That's cool: let's get on with that agenda, fight jihad and respect each other. Stop trying to throw nails on the road and jump up on our bus instead. We'll pull you up and give you a seat, since you are a lady and we respect that.
The only people not asking for a ceasefire are the Isrealis and the Americans. The people screaming the loudest for a ceasefire are Muslims and Arabs.That tells you all your need to know about who's winning and who's losing the war.
Why is this little nothing Naseem continually accorded the civility and seriousness it refuses to reciprocate on this site? It wrote:
"Worse a ceasefire means Israel must talk to Nisrullah on getting out of Lebonan. No doubt that he has a holiday home in Tehran which he can retreat to for a couple of years ONLY to be back firing larger rockets and also having a nucleur missile in his backpocket to "spice" things up.
In talking to Nisrullah politically, Isreal ofcourse has immediately been brought down to the level of the terrorist...imagine that...having to "negotiate" terms with hizb...which in reality means negotiating with Tehran."
Tell us, Naseem, is it a language problem or are you really so detached from reality that you think Israel is talking to Nasrallah? This is proof positive that your rantings are nothing more than the result of a diseased wish for things that have no bvasis in fact.
Israel is NOT talking to Nasrallah; in fact she is not interacting with him in any way except as a military target. I'm genuinely curious: what posseses you to fabricate such clumsy, easiliy discernible lies?
Final comment re Naseem: Either she's a phony or a reality challenged nut case. She might start selling some candy along with the furniture she sells. Naseem could sell the Islamic-Jihad-Nut-Bar, a box of assorted Hezbollah Nuts, The Bin laden Fruitcake, etc. Somebody should try this and turn a buck with this idea.
Maybe somebody in Israel should pick up on my idea. Sell candy that presents Israel's enemies as assorted nuts.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rakka/21651547/in/set-598456/
Frank,
She us not a nut case. She is a muslim.
Actually, Naseem, thanks. I have in the past egretted that only Jews are regarded as apes, while we Hindus are left out, but now, thanks to you, in addition to having to share Judea and Samaria with Mohammedans, they have to share this 'ape' label with me. Bukhari, Schmukhari...
Americaningermany, Naseem is simply misinterpreting/distorting a hadith ;->
Arjun, nothing the Mohammedans think is scary. What is scary is dar-ul-Harb's failure to even recognize, let alone respond - look at the stories about Serbia being pressurized to release Kosovo: this is really ominous, since it could be a harbindger of similar pressures being brought to bear on India re: Kashmir, Phillipines re: Mindanao, Thailand re: Southern Thailand, et al.
Americaningermany:
Although it is true that western Europe will sharpen their knives even further against Bush if he begins taking a harsher line against Iran, doing so will almost certainly prove the lesser of the evils the United States is faced with. There may not be much choice any longer.
First, you may or may not have realized by now that Russia, China, and the remaining Communist bloc nations are in bed with the Islamosphere countries, notably Iran and are now more or less siding with them against the western democracies. According to some reports I have seen, China has already sent covert ground forces into Panama to be deployed in an impending invasion of the United States. Americans will probably find themselves at war with China and Russia (which is currently in bed with the Chinese military) no matter what policies Washington sets. The Communists are coming after America with blood (literally--the Chinese government constantly alludes to Americans' "blood debt" to them).
As for the EU, Iran is equipped with missiles that can reach western Europe. What if Iran mass-produces these missiles, equips them with nukes and attacks the major cities on the continent? It may happen as Iran apparently is determined to carry out al-Qaeda's agenda of massacring the world's 5 billion non-Muslim infidels by burning them to death (with nuclear-equipped missiles). You mean we should allow them to do so? As much as I detest Europe, even I don't wish that on these arrogant fools.
Europeans can stuff it. We have a planet to save from genocidal, lunatic ideologues and it appears Europeans will be sitting it out with their heads in the sand. Fine. We'll handle this our way.
Speaking of media - Check this out.... a new documentary on "what's being said in Arabic these days" and is entitled 'Obsession'.
Fox News had a link to this Hannity & Colmes piece on it. I'm not a big supporter of Hannity, but check out the excerpts from the movie & look at the subtitles translating what's coming out of the childrens' mouths....
Click on the URL below to watch the video:
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/launchPage.html?072806/072806_hc_darwish&%27The%20Obsession%27&Hannity_Colmes&How%20great%20a%20threat%20is%20militant%20Islam%27s%20war%20against%20the%20West%3F&Foxlife&-1&%27The%20Obsession%27&Video%20Launch%20Page
Its not Isreal who seeks ciese fire after ciese fire.It been the Islamic radicals that are infesting the land.The west generally uses the ciese fire as a psdo snooze button.Nothing is solved just delayed for another day.Or another hour.The war is building. Try as we might its coming.The Islamic radicals and supporters are pushing ahead.The global community is hamstrung.And then some.Its truly a confunding mess.So sure ciese fire.Its becoming an inefective devise.And as that happens the warfare blooms.Thats how it works.
Signs of hope against Iran, that some in the government are getting it.
http://cl.exct.net/?ffcb10-fec611727763037f-fe3416767c60077d741571-fefb16797d6504
Rick Santorum (PA) state Senator, he is one of the few that do understand.