Islam now trying to ‘build bridges’ instead of bomb them

Julia Gorin (thanks to Mackie) lays it on the line about Islamic chutzpah toward the ever-gullible dhimmis:

Europe's biggest Islamic cultural event, IslamExpo, opened in London yesterday to reach out and "build bridges" to show that Islam is "not a danger or a threat."

Though the event coincides with last year's bombing of that city, organizers say the four-day festival was planned in 2002.

Now let me ask you: If you're putting together a "good will" image campaign, wouldn't you have the decency, taste, sensitivity or humility to adjust the timing a little? Should Americans expect an IslamExpo telling us that Islam is "not a danger or a threat" on the fifth anniversary of September 11th?

I guess this ongoing pattern was set in motion just two months after 9/11, when Muslims raised a ruckus that the U.S. Post Office forgot to include in its holiday-stamp poster the new Eid al-Fitr stamp (an Islamic winter holiday). The Russian language has a word that's a stronger version of "gall" or "chutzpah." The term is "naglost," and it's when you defecate on someone's doorstep then ring the bell to ask for toilet paper.

ArabicNews.com reports: "Speakers from 22 countries around the world are attending the festival, representing Christian and Jewish faiths as well as an array of cultural, ethnic, professional and ideological trends. London Mayor Ken Livingstone, former Iraq hostage Norman Kember and the BBC's security correspondent, Frank Gardner, who survived an attack in Saudi Arabia, are among those sharing the platform with many prominent Muslims."

So all these chumps are converging on London this week to dutifully assuage Western suspicions and insist that there's no need for whatever vigilance we may have left in us, proving that Islam isn't a threat, but merely our future. The Muslims should keep killing us just for being stupid.

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I read about this the other day and could not believe it. I guess I am the stupid sort, because I keep trying to comprehend WHY this goes on. How on earth can you hold a festival celebrating the very 'religion' that caused your own city to be bombed and your own citizens to be slaughtered - and on the anniversary of the murders, no less!

It's staggering. And I have to agree that sometimes I think we deserve what we're getting, simply for being so unbelievably stupid.

Well, smart idea I guess-they need bridges to transport those bombs.

The history of their religious cult shows palinly that they are much better at destroying than building.

The Russian language has a word that's a stronger version of "gall" or "chutzpah." The term is "naglost," and it's when you defecate on someone's doorstep then ring the bell to ask for toilet paper.

+++Naglost.... yes I think that says it all.

Several of us UK readers have been posting here on appropriate threads since 24 June directing JW/DW to our efforts to counter this "exhibition". Hugh's words of support for our first reference were invaluable. Thank you again Hugh.

The exhibition ends tomorrow but I will direct you again to the site. http://islamexpo.blogspot.com/

The first posting "Islam Expo July 2006: On the anniversary of the London bombings Some things you should know" will copy and paste twice, double sided, into an A4 sheet which when sliced makes two A5 handbills which have found their way all over the south east of England, and maybe further. I believe the author has plans to update it for general use after the exhibition.

I'll keep you advised here or elsewhere of developments.

No bridges, pleeeeeaaazzze!!!!

The traffic from the dar al Islam into Eurabia is only one way, and calls to build bridges are simply calls for further invasion....

We need walls and fences to keep the infil-traitors OUT!!!

Internment & deportations NOW!!!

Glasnost !, and the Brits are bringing the toiletpaper...

Naglost Glasnost!!, just shit anywhere for free..

Geat Britain is going to hell in a handcart.

The Tories are, predictably, now following where Labour has led on immigration. The egregious David Cameron, a former PR man who has never done an honest day's work in his life, is preparing to sell out the country at a time of grave national danger by dropping pledges on immigration control made by the party's former leader, Michael Howard. Even the French now realize the need for firmer controls, but the boneheaded Tories scuttle the wrong way.

Basically, the entire political establishment, a collection of self-satisfied ignorant pygmies, has sold the country out and in a short-sighted scramble for Muslim votes is now wilfully making the demographic situation yet more dangerous and thus creating the conditions for civil war on British soil, something not seen since the 17th century.

The Conservatives will next week ditch hardline policies on immigration that were widely seen [sc.claimed by interested parties] to have backfired at the last election

The Muslims are now deciding the immigration policy of the ex-Conservative Party:

Damian Green, the Tory immigration spokesman, told The Times that the tone during the election campaign “was perceived by many people as harsh”. He will meet Muslims in Coventry on Monday in the first of a series of consultations towards a new policy ...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,17129-2260780,00.html

I've also been involved in the anti-Expo initiative referred to by Granny Weatherwax above. There is still time for Londoners to get involved in this campaign. The leaflet will be useful for other occasions too.

I too would like to thank Hugh for his support of our effort at constructive counter-da'wa.

I have just been to Alexander Palace, which is not too far from my home, for a quick reconnoitre. I will be posting my impressions at the New English Review Blog (click my name)tomorrow.

I managed to get a reasonable idea of the sort of people who attended without having to pay the £20 entrance fee. I need that £20. The Spaniards pub has some deliciously haram cider and pork sausages.

Interested,

Have you seen the position that the politicians and the MoD have put the troops in?

They're not supplied with the equipment they need because the money has been blown on procurement decisions for the fantasy EU "European Rapid Reaction Force".

Looked at dispassionately, this was an extraordinary speech. Despite her measured tones, Winterton was effectively accusing the government is so obsessed with European integration that it was neglecting the combat army and sending troops to their deaths for want of the right equipment.

And, of course, she is right. But expect the Government - or "Dave" Cameron and the new Tories - to care less ...

The troops have these soft-skinned landrovers where the Americans and Canadians use more appropriate vehicles.

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/conspiracy-continues.html

Yojimbo
This is from a report by Christina Lamb in The Times.

It was after 1.30am when we finally got the nod for air support — only to find that three of our Snatches had got bogged down in the sand. Amid all the stars we could just see the lights of two American A10s, anti-tank aircraft of awesome destructive power.

“How long have we got air for?” asked Major Blair as spades were used to dig the vehicles out. “Forty more minutes,” came back the pilot’s American accent. After that they would have to refuel.

Major Blair checked his watch. It was going to take a good half an hour to get to the bridge and some of the Snatches were still stuck.

I remembered Corporal Robert Jones, an American Humvee driver I had met, who had expressed horror at how exposed the British vehicles were. He had told me that if any American vehicles got bogged down for more than five minutes in Helmand they abandoned them.

“We just hate going west from Kandahar,” he said. “It’s all IEDs, RPGS, Taliban, Al-Qaeda. We call it Hell-man.”

Eventually the vehicles were pulled out and we were on the road to the bridge. We reached it just before the planes had to refuel.

What would Churchill (Give us the tools and we'll finish the job) say.
I had some criticisms of Mrs Lamb as a potential liability to the men she accompanied, but her report was interesting nonetheless.

I'd like to see some evidence that ordinary people in England object to this Expo. In fact, I'd like to see some evidence that ordinary people anywhere in the West feel the way we do at JW. The only evidence adduced so far has been these polls that come out once in a blue moon, asking people uselessly general questions about Islam, which don't dig deep enough and don't pinpoint ambivalence which is well nigh as outrageously remiss as is ignorance, naivety, or sugarcoating.

Until solid evidence is presented, isolating the problem as one of Us (hundreds of millions of ordinary people) vs. Them (the political and media "elites") is puerile and may even have dangerously myopic consequences down the line.

That's all very well, television. But you've said nothing that absolves the political parties in the UK (or anywhere else) from taking a rational stance on immigration. That was my point.

Political parties and news media in free Western democracies won't feel the need to be "absolved", when the vast majority of the people and the general cultural atmosphere agrees with them.

That's a non-answer. They are still doing the wrong thing for the wrong reasons and are blameworthy because of it.

And you're gravely mistaken, in any case, when you imply that politicians and the media will simply do what the public wants. Take the issue of capital punishment. In the UK there has been a clear majority for it to be re-instituted ever since it was abolished. The politicians simply ignore that. Britain is not like the US: it is far less democratic in many ways. Much of the time the political class simply turns a deaf ear to the public, which it despises, and goes its own way. In any case, power has drained away from the national parliament - much legislation simply flows through from the EU onto the statute books, like sewage through a pipe, without its ever being debated on the floor of the House of Commons ... which reminds me a ... large proportion of the British public also opposes further integration with the EU or would outright like to withdraw, but with all three political parties where would dissenters cast their votes?

Cameron managed to seize control of the Conservative Party in part because he announced that he would withdraw Conservative MEPs from the EPP grouping in the European Parliament. That drew votes away from probably more genuinely Eurosceptic candidates. But now he has captured the leadership, Cameron has reneged on his promise and announced that he will sack any member of his shadow cabinet who makes Eurospectic statements. At a stroke the EU has captured all three main British political parties and debate on the EU has been silenced. So whom is the public to vote for if it disagrees with this, since all the parties are clones of each other?

Many seasoned and knowledgeable observors in my country consider that there is a very dangerous gap opening up between the the elite and the people. You may think they are wrong, but you don't live there, and you don't know. Fjordman speaks of similar situations in other countries he knows about. I don't speak the languages he does, but I've no reason for doubting him.

In modern Western polities, there is a gap between elites and the ordinary people on a variety of levels. On the level of criticism of Islam itself (and not detachable peripheral features of it) as a central matrix of terrorism, however, I don't think the elites and the ordinary people differ much from each other: for the most part, they will not criticize Islam itself as a central matrix of terrorism, nor do they seem interested in learning about the ugly center of Islam itself, since it is a universal given in the West still that Islam cannot have an ugly center -- only surgically detachable ugly warts here and there on the periphery.

Again, I'd like to see evidence to the contrary: that the majority of ordinary Western people are aware of the ugly and dangerous center of Islam, and are expending the minimal effort needed to learn more about how, and why, that center is ugly and dangerous. That would be the least one could expect in order to feel any degree of optimism.

Beyond that bare minimum, one would then expect this supposed majority of ordinary people who know that Islam has an ugly and dangerous center to actually do something about it. Like for example, when there is a screamingly outrageous Expo like this, to muster a small percentage of that alleged majority -- oh, say, 100 thousand people (a drop in the bucket of a majority of the 7.5 million in London, let alone the 60+ million throughout Great Britain) -- to gather around the Expo with signs, educational material in booths, and chanting slogans against Islam. Any expectation of such in the near future? Nah.

Well, Television, please tell me about all the anti-Islam marches that have taken place in the US, for example in New York, on the anniversary of September 11, when the casualties outnumbered the July 7 bombings by a factor of 60. There are 300 million people in the USA to our 60 million, so you would expect "oh, say" 600,000, a small drop in the ocean etc etc...

Yojimbo - you may have a point, and it is worrying. Bear in mind, of course that, like Blair in 97, Cameron wants to get elected. He will pander to dozy champagne socialists and lefties to do so, just as Blair pandered to them in 97. It is about tactics, not convictions.

Still it is good to see a post about the UK from somebody who actually knows what they are talking about - a bit of a rare bird here.

A four day event planned 4 years back ?

This is deliberate. They have the gall to dish it out because the British are taking it.

I'm beginning to think the 7/7 bombers panned their attack so that its first anniversary would clash with major Mohammedan propaganda fests.

A celebration of music throughout the Islamic world is going on in London between 28th June and 14th July, with free showcase concerts at places like Kew Gardens and this week, 8th - 9th Jul, in central London's Regent's Park.

"...organized by Cultural Co-operation, an independent London-based arts charity that promotes cross-cultural contact, dialogue and understanding."

No doubt there will be claims that it was organised before the 7/7 bombings but it all looks like a concerted propaganda campaign to me.

"...adjust the timing a little?"

NO! The timing couldn't be more perfect, because this just adds insult to injury. I don't know if these people think they're smart, but they're actually very stupid.

When one is motivated by hate, rage, bitterness, hostility...in other words, by an uncontrolled bent on venting demonically inspired venom, it makes one stupid!

I think that most sensible people will see that as typical of their kind. They just do not give a damn at all. Full stop.

I hope they continue to mess up their agenda.

As an old preacher said one time many years ago, that if you give the devil enough lead, he'll always overplay his hand.

PJ

A muslim cultural affair or trade show should be refered to as an "EXPLO" not an "expo".

Interested: I am an ordinary member of the public in the west.

See here for an account of my visit to Alexandra Palace yesterday, together with a couple of pictures of the "crowds" who attended.

Follow the link, the pictures of the visitors, or lack of them is worth a look.

Interested

Despite how you took them, the photos looked fine - there wasn't much more that would have been revealed had you taken full body shots. From your article

Visitors – I hate the word “attendees”, don’t you? – had to register. I have never had to do this at an exhibition, and I am not sure what the purpose of this was.
It was probably so that they could be contacted later to spread more taqiyya on behalf of the exhibit, or better still, to contact them later to convert them to Islam.

Given how thinly attended it was by Infidels, it would have been a good place for newer terror plotters to go, and hatch new plots, just in case they thought their local mosque was under surveillance.

Besides the Islamic Expo and the free concerts of Muslim music, Londoners are also being treated to an exhibition of Arabic calligraphy at the British Museum, "Word into Art: Artists of the Modern Middle East." Besides the calligraphy, it will also include a "final section," "Identity, History, and Politics." It will deal with the Iran-Iraq war, the Lebanese civil war, the 1991 Iraq war and the "palestine conflict" [Israel cannot be named by name apparently by the British Museum]. All this was gushingly reported in the IHT by a treacly and gushy Alan Riding, Int'l Herald Tribune, 6-22-05] So British taxpayers can take comfort that their tax money is going to support culture, not their own, but Muslim culture.

Funny that they talk about "artists of the modern Middle East" and calligraphy. Hebrew of course has a longer history of calligraphy than does Arabic writing, but our calligraphy either doesn't count or isn't modern enough or authentic enough or Middle Eastern enough or politically correct enough to be shown in this exhibit.

It seems that Britain is giving its citizens a forced feeding on the greatness of Muslim art/culture, while neglecting other cultures, and their art, particularly other Middle Eastern cultures and their art, despite the name of the exhibit. The Brits are getting this forced feeding from all sides, from several domains of culture, music, art, history, etc. -- and all at once. Sounds like psychological warfare to me.

Eliyahu
Are you familiar with this organisation? Harif - the association of Jews from the Middle East and North Africa.
Their events schedule is a bit quiet at the moment, but they had a good series of lectures late last year and earlier this year, so good that I check their site regularly, hoping to catch certain speakers again.

Thanx for the link, Granny. BTW, my apologies to anyone who tried to post on my blog site before the start of June [approx.]. I had turned on the "moderate comments" feature and didn't know how to use it.

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