Counter-Jihad activities by Indian troops. Jammu-Kashmir Jihad Update from AFP, with thanks to Twostellas:
Indian troops shot dead five suspected Kashmiri militants, two of them near a mosque in Indian Kashmir where they had holed up after a raid by government troops, officials said yesterday.The two rebels had fled to the mosque after soldiers raided their hideout in northern Bandipora town late Sunday, sparking a gunbattle in which a soldier was killed and two others were injured.
Skirmishes continued through the night, during which the militants had left the mosque and taken up positions in an adjoining house, said R.K. Bhargva, deputy inspector general of the paramilitary Border Security Force (BSF).
Several houses were damaged during the fighting in which both sides also used grenades.
"The fighting has stopped and we have recovered two bodies from one of the damaged houses," Bhargva said, adding both were militants.
Bandipora is part of Baramulla district bordering the Pakistani zone of divided Kashmir.
The AFP article was brief but still managed to describe rebels, militants, insurgents, and separatists, without once using the words, Muslim or Islam.
Good Thing all those nasty "rebels" were killed...So I suppose now the threat is over.
Isn't "mosque" an acronym?? - can't remember the whole thing, but I think it something like: (M)ilitary (O)perations(S)ecret (Q)ueda (U)nit (E)ducation..something like that.
and the unnamed terrorists -- the mos -- hide in the mosque and adjoining homes.
destroy enough homes and mosques and the terrorists will no longer have any place to hide.
There would have been no casualties on the Indian side had they adopted the simple use of mortar fire on the damn mosque. The reason there were was, the Indians tried to keep the mosque and its 'sanctity' intact. Of course, the mullahs inhabiting the mosque never told the terrorists to go surrender.
This story was hardly reported, but then again, every day there are so many incidents that one cannot possibly follow all the attacks and murders of those lunatics, which our chickens*#t MSM calls "rebels..."
"rebels", "militants", "fundamentalists", "seperatists", "insurgents", "shias", "sunnis", "a sect of shias", "a small sunni sect", "extremists". Never "muslims" or "islamists"
Another happy ending due to the RoP.
Mosque is where Islam and terror meet. Fair to say, under Islam, terror is mandatory upon muslims. Only, they call it 'Jihad'.
Nothing new about this, but one of the reasons that this issue refuses to die is the Indian government's lack of balls on this issue. They need to address the root causes, and work on political solutions:
- Shred Article 370 of the Indian constitution, which gives Jammu & Kashmir a "special" status i.e. Indians from elsewhere cant own property there, can't settle there, et al.
- Split the state - Ladakh, Jammu, and Panun Kashmir. Make them 3 separate states, or in case of Kashmir, make it an Union territory.
As far as the negotiations w/ Pak go, make it clear to them that Infidel areas of the state are not on the negotiating table. Any Pak attempts in Jammu, for instance, would be treated like a Pak incursion into Punjab.Only problem - the ruling party is on both sides of this issue. The state government in Kashmir is allied with a faction of the Jihadis, while at Delhi, the Marxists are a key part of the support, and their loyalties could be anywhere. It's tough to win a war when you are not on your own side.
-BunrattyBill,
You bin watchin' "Codename: Kids Next Door" or sumpin'?
hi. this is OT but i wanted to post it. apologies if i am late already
the verdict on the 2002 terrorist attack on the akshradam swaminarayan temple, in which 33 people(including 4 special forces commandos) were killed, is out. Six muslim terrorists have been convicted out of which 3 have been handed the death sentance.
The muslim community in some parts of Gujarat, the state in which the attack took place, are protesting the verdict by shutting their commercial establishments.
They support terrorists and not a word will be mentioned against them, because of "muslim appeasement". Even the news article refuses to mention the name "muslim" and continues to refer to them as a "Minority community".
The level of ignorance and appeasement that MSM across countries seek to spread is appalling. They refuse to accept sensical and logical conclusions and continue to subscribe to taqiyya garbage and portray it as the sensical truth.
Jesus said "...you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32
We need more people like Mr. Spencer and Hugh out there; people who believe in the truth and are not afraid to reveal it, discarding the popularity ratings and propagating the only thing that will stand the test of time-"THE TRUTH"
for a free world
the hindu
Infidel Pride wrote (out of frustration)
"...but one of the reasons that this issue refuses to die is the Indian government's lack of balls on this issue."
This should be corrected to amend that majority of Indians (read Hindus) don't have the balls. Now Israel is pounding Gaza toi dust with an array of armor that most likely outmatches Palestinians. No Jewish people would be upset because their elected Govt. is taking these steps.
Just think what would have happened if India did the same. Former PM, Vishwanath Pratap Singh, Communists, Lallu Yadav (RJD MP and former CM of of Bihar), Mulayam Singh Yadav (present CM of Uttar Pradesh, and former Defense Minister), and a some of journos like Praful Bidwai (writes on Rediff), Kuldip Nayyar (writes columns for Dawn - Pakistan's mouthpiece), and others would start churning the obfuscation machine and false propaganda. Guess what ? That would be enough for peace-loving Hindus to be deluded into thinking that Islam or Muslims are not the problem: but that some "specfic" elements of the Pakistan's ISI are to be blamed for the bloodshed etc. The spin-doctors would cite that many Muslims are good and patriotic, like Prez. Abdul Kalam, many filmstars and musicians etc. and etc. Then they (spin-doctors) would go on ballistic to cite that because RSS, VHP and BJP exists, so that is why the Islamic terrorism exists. Hindus, educated and bleeding-heart peaceniks as they are, would be constantly choose to be fooled.
I am amazed at the phenomenon: Lincoln said at the Gettysburg address, You can fool all people for sometime, some people for all time, but not all people for all times.
How can we explain the Indian phenomenon in this context of Kashmir, following Lincoln's address ?
From the post above:
"Lincoln said at the Gettysburg address, You can fool all people for sometime, some people for all time, but not all people for all times."
It seems that Lincoln was wrong.
I don't consider any of the above charlatans Hindus. Particularly the Communists. If you are now here in the US, you should get used to the convention thats normal here, which is to separate Athiests from the Hindus. For instance, nobody would describe Noam Chomsky as a Jew, or Howard Dean as a Christian. I'm not claiming that the RSS, VHP, BJP and Shiv Sena are the only Hindus, but none of the clowns you mentioned above should be described as Hindus. It's one thing to do nothing for the Hindu community; it's quite another to actively work to sabotage the community, along lines of caste, class, and have multiple sub-groups of Hindus, one group of Muslims (not even a Shia-Sunni split), and let the latter hold the keys to 3 key states. So my original description of them as Indians remains.
Also, there is no majority opinion in India (Hindu or all Indians) that insists on preserving Article 370. From the Congress/Allies, they want the Muslim vote, while with the NDA, while the BJP supported it, every one of its secular allies, including the National Conference, opposed it. Hence the lovely situation they are all in.
You need to get over this obsession of writing off India - we've done some amazing bloodletting since 1990. Moreover, none of the countries in the world are really acting against Islam, and in India, the way society is playing a role in seeing to it that Muslims are isolated ensures that you do not see in India the type of antics that you see in, say, Britain, on the Alton towers fair. I know, they want reservations for Muslims, but if that was ever a winning issue, they would have had it. Besides, their mullahs are pissed at Muslims being subjected to caste based reservations, since that's only something that we, the najis Hindus, have.
I don't consider any of the above charlatans Hindus. Particularly the Communists. If you are now here in the US, you should get used to the convention thats normal here, which is to separate Athiests from the Hindus. For instance, nobody would describe Noam Chomsky as a Jew, or Howard Dean as a Christian. I'm not claiming that the RSS, VHP, BJP and Shiv Sena are the only Hindus, but none of the clowns you mentioned above should be described as Hindus. It's one thing to do nothing for the Hindu community; it's quite another to actively work to sabotage the community, along lines of caste, class, and have multiple sub-groups of Hindus, one group of Muslims (not even a Shia-Sunni split), and let the latter hold the keys to 3 key states. So my original description of them as Indians remains.
Also, there is no majority opinion in India (Hindu or all Indians) that insists on preserving Article 370. From the Congress/Allies, they want the Muslim vote, while with the NDA, while the BJP supported it, every one of its secular allies, including the National Conference, opposed it. Hence the lovely situation they are all in.
You need to get over this obsession of writing off India - we've done some amazing bloodletting since 1990. Moreover, none of the countries in the world are really acting against Islam, and in India, the way society is playing a role in seeing to it that Muslims are isolated ensures that you do not see in India the type of antics that you see in, say, Britain, on the Alton towers fair. I know, they want reservations for Muslims, but if that was ever a winning issue, they would have had it. Besides, their mullahs are pissed at Muslims being subjected to caste based reservations, since that's only something that we, the najis Hindus, have.
And the quote wasn't from the "Gettysburg Address", three short paragraphs of brilliance which you can read here, but from another time and another speech entirely.
(Mohammad disproved Lincoln, to the tune of 1.2 billion believers, which is close enough to "all the people" -at least for government work.)
Infidel Pride,
I don't think you need respond to mohammad bin kafir at all. He himself has shown how much 'balls' he has at his earlier postings. What he does not have, he attributes to an entire people. He would abandon his motherland and seek refuge in another, and not have the balls to even stand up for it. (grampa, why did you leave me this problem to sort out ?). THAT is the kind he belongs to. I am sure he will be a great asset to any country he chooses to run/fly to. (Whatever chickens do.)
Infidel Pride,
The majority of Hindus do not agree on Article 370 is that we do not understand what it is all about. Most of us are farmers, and so long as we can continue our farming peacefully, we generally stay quiet. The cities are where it's at. The muslims seldom are farmers. They infest cities. And in the cities, the atmosphere is different.
The nerve of those Methodist Kashmiri militants to use a mosque for warlike purposes. Sacrilege!
why don't we pretend that holy and righteous notions and elations prevail in mosques. thus, if armed scum flee and hole up in the mosque to avoid law-enforcers let the battle cry be to decontaminate the wholesome oasis by ventilating the pests with rounds of reason made from lead coming out of the barrels of rifles from the saviors of civilization. the imams will be invited to express their gratitude to public officials for cleansing their facility of the invading vermin. if they don't, then level the mosque and replace it with a pig farm or public swimming pool to keep citizens fit for future encounters.
To my Hindu friends.
Years ago, when the internet was nothing more than bulletin boards and posts had to be up and downloaded, and subsequently via mass Emailings such as One List. I had the pleasure of meeting, on an atheist forum, a couple of atheists from India..one proclaimed himself a Hindu atheist (akin to a Jewish atheist or even perhaps a Muslim atheist or as in the case of Oriana Fallaci a Christian atheist), the other was a Dravidian from South India, who harbored (apparently justly) an abiding disgust, distrust and hatred of the Hindu..
Arjun
I get your point, but I don't think that the idea that Hindus have given up on India should be allowed to gain perception, particularly since India seems to be way ahead of Europe, and, depending on how one analyzes it, at par with the US and Israel.