From Islamic Republic News Agency:
Majlis Speaker Gholam-Ali Haddad Adel here Sunday evening said that westerners find Muslim women to be backward and that in order to raise their status before the eyes of the west they should adopt western lifestyles.
No, it's just Sharia law that hard-wires societies into backwardness, especially where women are concerned.
Addressing the concluding session of the first International Conference on Women Rights and Responsibilities in the Islamic System, the speaker said westerners also find Islamic countries to be lagging behind western countries in scientific, cultural, economic and industrial progress and development.
Muslim women are the freest and most deserving of respect, the Majlis speaker said, underlining the need to accord Muslim women their true value.
The first International Conference on Women Rights and Responsibilities in the Islamic System kicked off here Saturday attended by scholars from 25 countries.
It was organized by the World Forum for Proximity of Islamic Schools of Thought in cooperation with the Center for Women and Family Affairs and the Women Cultural and Social Council.
Scholars from Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Pakistan, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia, Switzerland, Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Egypt, Thailand, Kosovo and Palestine participated in the twe-day [sic] confab.
Here is some taq'qiya from muslim women themselves. They also seem to think they are the best. And, if you go to the part on why wear hijab, they say that wearing the tent sets them free.
http://www.jannah.org/sisters/
One word to describe the taq'qiya above - baloney!
Switzerland?
A strange article here from Sweden. It's about FGM but I noticed the bit about dowries. In Sweden. Talk about stepping backwards. Who would have ever thought that the beautiful people of Sweden would be paying someone to take their daughters off their hands.
http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=4346&date=20060717
Borg, Sabuni does have an idea to crack down and put a little fear in the hearts of muslims who practice FGM. They might not be so hasty to mutilate their daughters if they knew they were going to jail. And people who think 5yr old girls are immodest and have to wear a hijab, are seriously insane.
Arjun, I put your article in my favorites. I can't comprehend to save my life , how a headscarf sets a woman free. Especially if she's FORCED to wear it.
These people who think westerners are immodest really must get so excited at seeing an elbow, ear, clavicle, or knees and ankles. THEY are the ones with the problems.
I'll bet those women have hijab hair.
Nyamko Sabuni; a Swiss Aayan Hirsi Ali? Will she be treated equally shamefully?
Freewoman,
The headscarves are for school going girls. That is the beginning. For women, there is the burka next, the tent from head to toe. The hijab is the veil that is used to cover half the face, and only the eyes show. The hijab is removable by hand, in the company of other females. But out on the roads, it is a must to have this last piece of covering in place. It is this hijab that these muslim women say set them free. Here it is, Liberation by the veil.
http://www.jannah.org/sisters/hijbene.html
If these sick pedophillic bastards can't control their lusts for 5-year olds, then of course, the children must be made to wear hajib. Perhaps it's time to start tenting the goats and camels, too.
Arjun, the article Borg posted, said that nursery school girls are being forced to wear the headscarf. This needs to be stopped. NOW. These little girls are WAY too young to have their lives affected by muslim male insecurities. And also by FGM. And also because of the pedophilia........just get them away from muslims.
This has been bugging me and I hope I'm not too far off topic. A woman on Fox (Liaison from NPR) is a constant apologist for Muslims. I propose, in the interest of cultural exchange, a weekly segment run in the spirit of Mohammed.
Call it Mohammed Monday, Taliban Tuesday, or maybe a whole Jihad weekend.
Dress her up in a burka and, every time she voices an opinion, tell her to shut up.
This bit of cr@p reminds me of an abusive man talking to the police telling the cops his wife likes beatings, he turns to her and says "you like it, right?" And she had damn well better like it, if you know what I mean.
This is from the Jannah site:
"The HIJAB IS A SORT OF "SCREEN" BETWEEN THE CHASTE MUSLIM WOMAN AND THE EVIL THAT EXISTS IN THE WORLD. When a woman wears a hijab she is less likely to be harassed by men with lusty motives; SHE IS LESS LIKELY TO BE EXPLOITED FOR HER BEAUTY AND FEMINITY."
OK, if covering women is at least partly based on the threat from men, then why not blindfold the men? Or teach the men to behave with respect?
If women have to remain in their houses from the men, again, why not do this another way? If men are harrassing women, I don't see that this is the only, or best, solution.
Another offensive piece from the Jannah website:
"The hijab cuts down on competition among women. How many people in the West sacrifice financial savings and health in order to have plastic surgery - in a desperate attempt to meet up to an unrealistic standard of beauty. IN ISLAM, WOMEN ARE APPRECIATED FOR THEIR KNOWLEDGE, PIETY AND CONTRIBUTION TO SOCIETY. When women wear hijab one finds that the most beautiful women are not necessarily the most popular. Rather, a woman is assessed for her mind, and not just superficial physical traits."
I am opposed to plastic surgery (other than reconstruction). However, it is a bit rich for Muslims to state this-the Iranian Muslim women are famous for having plastic surgery to remove their 'hook' Arab noses and to make them more Westernlooking. In UK beauticians are full of Asian and Arab Muslim women having waxing and electrolysis to remove their dark moustaches and other facial hair. So, this bit is not even true.
The other bit in here, 'in Islam women are appreciated for thier knowledge' is offensive (and untrue)-are they implying that infidel women are not appreciated for thier knowledge/mind/other traits other than beauty?
More lies, more taqiyya, more dawa, and some quite offensive stuff.
EnglishBlondie-
Muslim Women appreciated for their contribution to society?. Hehehe, oh I don't know
From: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=979
"The unemployment rate for Muslim women at 18 per cent was about four times the rate for Christian and Jewish women (4 per cent in each case). Unemployment rates for women in the other religious groups were between 6 per cent and 9 per cent."
Makes me wonder which "society" they're speaking of.
I forgot to mention the skin bleaching industry and the fact that lighter skins are prized ( and increase marriage prospects) in many Muslim countries and Muslim communities in the UK. I really don't know where to start with this nonsense. As for "Muslim women are the freest and most deserving of respect" (above), oh pleeaase! 'Freest'? Just how many honour killings did we have in the UK last year? Apostacy? As for 'most deserving of respect' is the 'Muslim superiority complex' showing again throught he cracks? Equality?
Offensive, lies, dawa, Stockholm syndrome, taqiyya.
If I was a woman and had my clitoris hacked off with a knife and was married to a family member I'd probably cover my face too,out of shame.
JLP
Wishbone, I just read it! What a complete load of nonsense, they are so dishonest!
Hoenstly, I didn't know where to start with this rubbish!
I'm not entirely how they can logically express that Muslim women have greater freedom. I do know, however, that if a Western men were to suggest subservience and genital mutilation to the vast majority of Western women, then those same women would would probably express their freedom to "John-Wayne-Bobbitise" them in reponse.
I'm winceing just a little as I think it.
Freewoman,
How do you take their children away from them ? They are a lot, and just put this idea in front of a world leader, I bet you will kill him. When these leaders won't call islam as enemy, how can you expect them to take so drastic a step ? Any child born into islam is cursed to be a zombie.
Do you know about Laila ? Barbie offended the sensibilities of saudis, so they made Laila, a doll that wears all the muslim accessories, headscarf, burka, and hijab. And it is a big hit in the middle east (not Israel). All the muslims make their girls buy it, along with a lot of accessories (the black burka, the white hijab, the white burka, the black hijab, the gray burka, the white hijab, that kind of accessories.)
After studying Islam and visiting three Muslim countries I have reached some conclusions why anyone would subscribe to this intolerant, hateful, and violent religion. In addition to the many sociological factors enumerated in the mass media, I suspect the majority of Muslims are mentally challenged. According to a recent study (Richard Lynn 2006), the average Muslim has lower intelligence (84 IQ) and less brain mass (115 cc less) than the average European or American. Moreover, according to UN statistics, the mean educational level in Muslim countries is 5th grade or lower and their per capita incomes are among the lowest of UN countries (except for sub-Sahara Africa). Thus, their irrational behavior may be at least partially explained by their deficient intellectual resources!
Nanrek-
we have evidence of deficient intellectual resources above:
To claim 'we don't compete with other women' and also to claim 'we are better than other women' would be considered as inconsistent by an intelligent person!
Also, to be this illogical AND to claim how smart you are is also NOT SMART.
If this were not all so serious then I would be laughing my head off.
Arjun, I guess we need to realize and state that, being reared muslim is child abuse. Think about that. They are taught to hate, raised to play with guns, bombs, etc. (I wish I could find the article that says A LOT of muslim children are molested by relatives) They perform FGM on girls (BIG child abuse) force them to wear stifling clothing (burkas, hijabs), under constant threat of honor killing, and under threat of being nine years old and given to an old pedophile.
This could include watching halal killing, watching an honor killing, watching their mothers or other girls being abused by relatives and other muslim males, watching stonings, being brainwashed to believe they are second class citizens and free and have respect from other other muslims.
Yes, I've heard of that doll. How fun is putting different color tents on a doll. I don't know why muslim women wear anything under those burkas anyway since no one can see what they are wearing. And, it would be a lot cooler.
Freewoman,
Your comment above puts it very succinctly for any newcomer to DW to realize that islam is like no other society on earth. They are completely alien to what we regard as family and social values. Wish some newcomers would understand, instead of just calling us haters or racists or whatever conclusion they arrive at by a very brief perusal of JW/DW.
Yet another telling the world how free the muslim woman is. Now I'll hold my breath for news of these women getting a drivers license, being able to go out without a relative or male escort,having a choice of profession,being able to date/marry whomever they wish......sorry am turning blue and starting to passsssout!
My favourite bit of taqqiyah about women's rights in Islam that you find on those propaganda sites is the one where they say one Islamic nation gave the vote to all adult women before the UK did. They may even add that it was Turkey and that you can check it for yourself - they assume (perhaps correctly) that the average member of the western public has never heard of Mustapha Kemal.
Iran is the nose job capital of the world as Iranian women seek western noses:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/02/eveningnews/main692495.shtml
More hypocrisy and lies.
I always laugh (in my head) when I see the hypocrites in the makeup counters, hijab on and fighting over the makeup! I have no problem with women (Muslim or not) wearing makeup (I wear a little)or not, this is just a point about the total hypocrisy and lies of 'I wear the hijab cos I'm not trying to look nice bla bla'.
Lies, hypocrisy and illogical thinking.
A woman who adheres to the tenements of Islam is required to follow the dress code called Hijab, other synonymes are Veil, Purdah, or just Covering. It is an act of faith and establishes a Muslim's life with honor, respect and dignity. The Hijab is viewed as a liberation for women, in that the covering brings about "an aura of respect" (Takim, 22) and women are recognized as individuals who are admired for their mind and personality, "not for their beauty or lack of it" ( Mustafa ) and not as sex objects.
This paragraph from jannah.org is so amusing, and so typical of Islamic doublespeak. Yes, they are REQUIRED to have this dress code, and thus they are liberated. Kinda like being required to wear chains, to be liberated. And when they stone some poor woman to death or mutilate the genitals of a young girl they are also liberating her. Wheeee! Don't you just LOVE Muslim liberation?
Whenever I see a woman wearing Islamic dress, my first reaction isn't to "admire them for their mind and personality", rather, it's to pity their misfortune to be trapped in Mohammed's curse upon humanity, Islam.
Or teach the men to behave with respect?-EnglishBlondie
I wonder if a muslim woman could really teach a son how to behave. The father has all rights to a son from the age of eight, and from what I've seen they let them wander the streets alone, unsupervised. Even younger than that.
Ever look at scenes from the middle east? Young men aimlessly wandering in packs. Who is teaching them respect? Women civilize men. With no women allowed to speak up or be outside to control rambunctious children it is no wonder that things are out of control. Pack mentality takes over. Look how Mohammad turned out. No mother.
EXACTLY, Englishblondie. They've lied to themselves for so long, they don't even realize the truth when it hits them in their nose job.
They say these things, because they've been taught to, and also to keep the males happy. I truly believe if these women had no fear of repercussions from muslim males (and maybe their mothers) they would toss the tents and scarves and be like the rest of us. Who wants to get a great haircut and then have to hide it. Or a great color. Or FINALLY find shades of makeup that make you look like a million bucks.
if covering women is at least partly based on the threat from men, then why not blindfold the men? Or teach the men to behave with respect?
from posting by EnglishBlondie on July 18, 2006 11:30 AM
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Tsk, tsk... You aren't supposed to question the Koran or ask for the application of logical thinking within Islam. Allah knows best, and if HE says women must wear the hijab then who are we mere mortals to question HIM!!!
Obviously Allah can't be a female!
Look how Mohammad turned out. No mother.
Posted by: Borg
Exactly. Mohammed's mother abandoned him more than once. No one loved him, really, ever.
This is why mohammed punishes women eternally through allah. Mohammed punishes all muslim women for the sins of his mother.
allah hates women. allah hates muslims. muslims as a group suffer the most by every objective measurement of the human condition... their women even more so... both here and in the afterlife. Mohammed testified that hell was filled 'mostly with muslim women because they are deficient in faith and ungrateful to their husbands.'
Why the HELL would you swallow that and support Islam as a woman? Better to be an infidel and have something in this life. If you're going to hell as a muslim woman and as a infidel women, why not have a decent life with freedom at least in the short term? with islam you get nothing now and punishment later... how asinine !!!!!!!!!
A Plague on Both Houses:
You know, Islamic Heaven may not be such a good place for anybody anyway....think about it, that is where the terrorists and murders go for eternity, and their 72 sex slaves - on the subject of 72 sex slaves, this another troubling aspect of Islam from a woman's point of view, or actually any decent person's point of view. Why would a decent person want to go there? This is all so deeply wrong.
This is why I always ask Naseem....why do you want to be in a religion that disrespects half of it's followers, and the half it disrespects, is yours?
Freewoman: I think they have issues with self respect, a lot of the 'bluster' ('I'm better than you bla bla') is probably rooted in deep insecurities and problems - you can't be so disrespected all your life and not have some such problems. And why all those nose jobs? Envy, isecurity and low self esteem will play a large part.
Anyway, no problewms for Blondie, the temperature is going down to a normal level in the UK now (after a red hot day) so I shall put on a mini skirt, let down my blonde hair, a little lip gloss, and I am going out. I will consume alcohol, I will dance, I will talk and laugh with men. I don't care that I won't go to Muslim heaven, that is not an aim of mine.
Don't you just love being an infidel?
Oh, and to all you pretend pious Muslims (I know that is a lie, like the bit about being smart), any unwanted attention from men can be dealt with by an intelligent strong infidel woman, there is no need to get hysterical about being asked for a dance or such like, this is what we call 'fun'. Some is appreciated, some is unwanted, deal with it accordingly. welcome to the free world.
Going out now.
Blondie, can you imagine the mental problems these women have? Being taught that they're half that of their brothers, their pecking order less than a camel, knowing that their families pride lies between their legs, they are "dirty" and have to be covered, they can be beaten for ANY reason, sex object (yes, they are sex objects to their husbands, uncles, fathers, brothers ETC ETC ETC) and still be married off to a pedophile ( NASTY VILE ) old man while you're still a little girl.
And then after marriage they just become breeders.
Except for having children, cleaning, cooking and having sex at the whim of their husbands....what use are they?
"I'll bet those women have hijab hair."
- freewoman
ha ha ha, thanks for the good laugh!
"Muslim women are the freest and most deserving of respect"
Yeah, I'm 6'-6" weigh 258#s and bench press twice my weight. Y'all don't know me, but that is one of two big fat lies in this posting.
I also look like a 30 year old Tyrone Power.
Makes three.
"You know, Islamic Heaven may not be such a good place for anybody anyway...."
by EnglishBlondie
The trouble with 72 young virgins is - none of them would know how to cook.
Pelayo, do you know why muslim males like muslim females??
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Cause sheep can't cook.
Man, these Moslems sure do like to load up on the forums and centers and institutes and councils and committees. I fear that Prof. John Esposito has bred with Ibrahim Hooper in a sordid group coupling with the awful Mikhail Bakunin.
And so a 3-haided dog was born, and with it the swirling world of Islamic Intellectualism.
The father has all rights to a son from the age of eight, and from what I've seen they let them wander the streets alone, unsupervised. Even younger than that.
No wonder they loaded up in Detroit.
Well I'm so glad all that is cleared up - Muslim women are the freest in the world. Hurrah!
What about Apostasy laws???
Rubbish - sharria laws give the greatest amount of freedom to any man or woman. The koran itself says, "there is no compulsion in religion". You can leave islam anytime you like - no problems, it is just an Afghan cultural thing, nothing to do with islam.
and FGM ???
Total rubbish - circumcision is done purely for hygeinic purposes. There is no pain involved at all. All this hysteria is just islamophobia. The West has a lot to learn from islam.
Ok what is all this Beheading of innocent civilians???
Fabrication. You dont believe all that? they are simply computer generated graphics for the entertainment industry, nothing else. Islam is a religion of peace.
Borg,
The article you posted is actually good news, given the fact that a parliamentarian from a mainsteam party is broaching issues that the Swedes - who have taken political-correctness to the point of caricature - would typically consider bordering on hate speech.
Perhaps there is hope for Sweden yet.
Freewoman, I'm home! Way too hot to dance all night tonight! You know the paedophile thing is so disturbing, we get a lot of it in England from the Muslims. Here is a rare acknowledgement by the media:
http://www.lancashireeveningtelegraph.co.uk/news/newsheadlines/display.var.819890.0.girls_groomed_for_sex.php
They say 'Asian' in this article but they mean 'Muslim'. Nearly all the Asians in the area in question are Muslim. There was a great interview on BBC Radio 5 and the local MP (Cryer)admitted the Islamic dimension of the child abuse, it was a rare piece of truth in our censored media.There are problems with grown women too, a lot of Muslims are picking on the very vulnerable women, sometimes getting them on heroin (then they have the sex slave they crave), also date rape drugs in the clubs (best to hold onto your drink these days). Of course, none of us are safe from the more brutal abuse (look at Malmo in Sweden).
The problem of Muslim men not behaving in a responsible/respectful sexual manner is not solved by covering up women, in England this just moves the potential victims and almost condones it. The problem should be solved at its root. We shouldn't say OK if you can't behave then we will try to cover up, and maybe you will pick on kids instead (not forgetting Aisha being 9), we should be saying behave. Anyway, covering your hair does not stop the rapes - look at the statistics in Muslim countries.
This is just total nonsense, as usual when you listen to Muslims.
From the article
Sure they are, after the problem was publicised. I'm sure they knew, and did nothing, as taking Kaffir women is sanctioned, nay encouraged by islam.
Proud Infidel posted
My feelings too. Muslims are to be pitied, specially muslim women- an ideology that has imprisoned muslims in a time prison set on 7th century AD. The penalty for an escape attempt is death.
Gotta feel sorry for them. Would feel more sympathy if they werent trying to kill all those who are not in prison with them.
DP111, the taking of women:
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html
I didn't realize inbreeding makes one's brain and head size smaller....I just thought it made one stupid.
OT: Has anyone seen this story of the muslim running for office in Michigan?
http://www.startribune.com/562/story/560061.html
The Muslim running for office says:
"I began to help create a world where everybody counts and where there are no throwaway people."
He is either using taqiyya or he doesn't know his Islam very well. I think that subjagated people ( non Muslims 9:29)could kind of count as 'throwaway' people and not really as 'counting'. And the stuff about women too, like 4:34, not really 'counting' there either. Let's not mention what sharia law prescribes for gays - not really 'counting' there (or maybe a target for stones 'counts'...). And then there are the problems of 'counting' for apostates and adulterers...
So many lies. So much deceit. So many lies. Sighs.
You've got to read this thread about a muslimah wanting to escape the terrible US...oh the horror.
http://www.islamonline.net/discussione/thread.jspa?messageID=3405
Carolyn2, it sounds to me like she's looking for a sugar daddy. I don't think she's hurting that bad. Maybe she just wants a new car.
She's having a "moment" with the fact she's the only muslim in her family.
She needs to get a life.
freewoman, she really has a hate on for kaffirs doesn't she?
Yeah, she REALLY sounds unstable also. She's full of yesterday's breakfast.
Carolyn2, how could this idiot have "non-muslim" children unless she married a kafir or converted to Islam? I doubt that her kids are apostates. It is forbidden for muslim women to marry non-muslim men unless they convert to Islam, so this muslima's sob story doesn't quite add up.
I would be glad to contribute to her travel fund providing she leaves the kids behind. If she drags them off to some God-forsaken Islamic hellhole, they will become muslims whether they want to or not. She's been watching too much al-jazeera. She needs to find herself a good muslim husband and put the kids up for adoption. Her vernacular sounds very American to me, so I'm guessing she's a dimwitted convert.
I hope her wish comes true and she spends the rest of her miserable life wishing she had never heard of Islam.
Just read the thread on IslamOnline from Carolyn2's post.
Wow.
Funny thing, I read the postings mohammedans leave on JW and it's like looking at some strange animal in a zoo. Going to that site and reading that raving schizo's rant was like walking into the jungle and seeing one in the trees, screeching and flinging its leavings. As bad as some of them get in what is probably, to them, considered hostile territory, this one in her natural habitat was enlightening.
Even funnier, it actually makes me appreciate Naseem for her...heh,heh..."restraint".
-Susanp,
"Sahara" mentions in that spewathon that she's over 50 yo and a new convert (I will not call it "revert", damned arrogant @#$&!'s).
PRIMITIVE....PRIMITIVE....PRIMITIVE.
ABUSERS...ABUSERS...ABUSERS...ABUSERS.
CHILD MOLESTERS....CHILD MOLESTERS.
WOMEN BEATERS...WOMENS BEATERS.
WHAT A RELIGION....WHAT A RELIGION!!!
THEY MAKE ME SICK. THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE WHEN THEY ARE ALL GONE. MAYBE THE ISRAELI CONFLICT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF THIS PRIMITVE "RELIGION."
'..if covering women is at least partly based on the threat from men, then why not blindfold the men? Or teach the men to behave with respect?'
from posting by EnglishBlondie on July 18, 2006 11:30 AM
Wait! Wouldn't the equivalent be to BLIND (forget the "fold") any man looking lasciviously at a woman?
The Sharia needs an amendment, obviously.
Susanp and Eisenhund,
It sounds to me that she has plans to take the children against their will (as Susan on the thread said). Can you imagine how it would be in say...Iran for those poor kids?
I gathered that she has grown children and minor grandchildren, none of whom are mohammedans. She strikes me as an islamic Cindy @#$%ing Sheehan. A lone nut in her family who is basically a "black sheep" and turned to Big Al and the Mo Dogg instead of prescription meds. I don't think her kids are going to go anywhere with her and would probably put her in jail or a hospital if she tried to take off with the grandkids.
Susanp and Eisenhund
Reading the thread, she is 50 years old, her children are grown up and have children of their own. She is also the only muslim in the family. Even muslims on the thread are disturbed by her outpourings. She is obviously a disturbed person, who converted to islam in one of those moments, and does not know what to do now. She needs help.
Tragic story.
She appears to be deranged, but as a Muslim women isn't she 'the most deserving of respect'? ;-)
That's what the 'scholars' said isn't it? ;-)
Susanp and Eisenhund
Reading the thread, she is 50 years old, her children are grown up and have children of their own. She is also the only muslim in the family. Even muslims on the thread are disturbed by her outpourings. She is obviously a disturbed person, who converted to islam in one of those moments, and does not know what to do now. She needs help.
Tragic story.
Posted by: DP111 at July 19, 2006 05:30 PM
Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't read the whole thread, just her plaintive lament, which made me sick. I remember she said something along the lines of "I must get me and mine out of this depraved society", and "my children are not muslims." That confused me.
I should pity this poor woman but I resolved long ago that muslims are unworthy of pity. Muslims, like animals, are incapable of feeling compassion and pity. I doubt if they could even define these words, much less express or experience the emotions they connote.
It would be so easy to dehumanize muslims and regard them as feral, primitive incendiaries, beasts with human characteristics programmed in group think. Actually, that is exactly the way I see them and I guess I should be ashamed of myself. They dehumanize non-muslims, which enables them to hate and kill us with no compunction. But I don't hate them or harbor homicidal ambitions, so maybe I haven't descended to their level of depravity yet.
These Muslim women dont know anything else, just as they dont know that they are being told many lies about Israel. We have to feel sorry for these women who are only there to breed boys to go and kill the enemy, they dont realise that their young men are dying for a lie...
I also feel sorry for them that their men have such a lack of charactor that they are too weak to be able to control themselves that they have to hide behind a burka... the men are alowed to show their faces but not so the women...
Yes Muslim women do deserve respect, respect for having to put up with being hit by their husbands, for not being allowed to think for themselves, for not being able to go out, for not being able to advance, etc. but we have to remember, they will feel that we are wrong and I believe that we are in some ways, as although most of our men have the strength of character to control themselves, todays women dont dress modestly, our girls do look like tarts, even a media article 4 years ago said that what we dress our little girls in make them look like tarts, the media called the cloths "hooker Sheik", perhaps the burka is tooo much, but perhaps we dress to the other extreem.
Proud Infidel posted:
"A woman who adheres to the tenements of Islam is required to follow the dress code called Hijab, other synonymes are Veil, Purdah, or just Covering.................."
Well, they have to live somewhere!!!!!!!
Yes, I am a little, little man.
Please, enough taq'qiya, that is, tell one thing in words, see different things in action.
Please, enough taq'qiya, that is, tell one thing in words, see different things in action.
I have a simple question. If Muslim women are so "free", then why is it that Muslim husbands are allowed to beat their wives up? Just a simple question.
I have a simple question. If Muslim women are so "free", then why is it that Muslim husbands are allowed to beat their wives up? Just a simple question.
Re: "Muslim women are the freest and most deserving of respect, the Majlis speaker said, underlining the need to accord Muslim women their true value."
B.S.
bigcatgirl13106-
It is all bullshit anyway, it really is a waste of our time discussing about the pretend modesty, or pretend not caring how they look, or pretend respect, bllablabla. The only respect this has anything of any extent to do with is respect for Islam and Muslim men. The whole thing is just more bullshit. Covering Muslim women to whatever extent is about submission to Islam and to Muslim men. Islam means submission (it does not mean peace, that was just another lie)
BULLSHIT TAQIYYA LIES BULLSHIT LIES TAQIYYA
LOL! Right! And Stalinist Russia was a "Worker's Paradise! At least teh muslims are good fro a few laughs!
OOPS! Sorry for the typos, I was laughing too hard!