No part of Israel is safe, Iranian lawmaker says

What we are all witnessing here is the price of dealing with Muslims when they are feeling brazen and confident and holding many weapons capable of vast destruction. Understand, please, that this is only going to escalate with time unless decisive blows are struck against Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran. Egypt might even get involved if the Arab-Muslim states smell the blood of Israel.

Think about this region's history and remind yourself that if the Muslims come into greater positions of power in Europe, then the kidnapping and extortion of Europeans is next, then Canadians, Australians and Americans after that. The only reason that Muslim leaders and their people "play nice" is because they are positioning for greater resources, political power, population growth, land expansion and advanced weaponry. Once demands are met, they simply attack with renewed vigor, such has been the case with moving Israeli troops out of Lebanon and giving up Gaza. As predicted by most with any wisdom, this pattern of concession has only emboldened the jihadi that are hellbent on the genocide of all Israelis and the domination of the Israeli territory.

These same things will happen all over the world given enough time if we stand around idly. Open a history book: Islam is spread by the Sword and not by Peace. Time after time after time we can see the pattern. And now we are witnessing it on the morning news with our cereal.

Enough talk of "terrorists", "youths", "insurgents". Let's start talking about Muslims. Let's start talking about the jihadis and the holy war these people wage against the world both subversively and overtly. When you hear the news reporters call Taliban "terrorists", stop and ask yourself -- since when are Taliban warriors terrorists? Taliban warriors are organized fighters that collude with Al-Qaeda but their tactics have never been solely those of terrorists. Taliban are Wahhabi Muslims, first and foremost -- just like a majority of Saudi Arabians. Wahhabi are even more virulent and unrelenting than the typical Mid-Eastern Muslim. Frightening thought, and they are spreading these schools around the world with relish.

We are not fighting terrorism here people. Terrorism is a dangerous PC generalization. We are fighting an entire culture of death worshipping zealots who are most often lead by royalists (i.e. Saudi Princes) bent on personal power at all costs. The Muslims represent so many ideas antithetical to the United States Constitution that Americans should spit on them and cast them out of the nation. But what do we choose to do instead? Coddle them. Give them free passes to our universities. Allow them to preach to our worst in the prison systems and even recruit on our college campuses using new Muslim fraternities and sororities. Soon will come a wave of cartoons meant to indoctrinate our children on Saturday mornings. (I'm not making any of these things up btw -- if you have any doubts, just consult the reports in my recent blog entries at my website.)

Even the most liberal of readers here can not continue to go down the path of self-destruction forever. Learn about your enemy. Study Islam. Understand that we are in a protracted fight that is going to get bloodier in our lifetimes before it ever gets better, and stop listening to the scum in our own midst that are trying to push us all off cliffs because they loathe their own heritage and history that much. (Traitors and seditionists will soon have to be "dealt" with, too.)

Islam is the Enemy. Don't you forget it.

Here is an interesting analysis of the conflict by Amir Taheri. It appears in the Jerusalem Post:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150886032085&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Re: No part of Israel is safe, Iranian lawmaker says

It's true for Israel, India, Darfur, Iraq, even Iran and anywhere else maniacs such as Ahmadinejad exist. That's why Israel's actions are completely rational. There is no way that people like Ahmadinejad or Portable-Iran-Syria (Hamas, etc.) can be negotiated with on anything (their minds are warped). They have to impose their belief systems on the world, but the world is going to make them confront reality. God Speed to Israel and God Almighty be with Israel on this and all other matters and everyone else who is in danger from the Islamic mental cases.

Iranians in the streets, Democratic spokespeople taking TV stands that UN peacekeepers won't work, Hezbollah being sent weapons to send high explosives into Tel Aviv.

Sounds like this one is on.

Gods speed to the Israeli people as they act in our interests.

nasrallah says hezbollah has 12000 missiles. They have fired 1500 so far into Israel. The range of the missiles is increasing.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/israel-bombarded-peres/2006/07/18/1153166347409.html

Foehammer and
Frank

SUBERB stuff!

The word "ridimensionato" in Italian means to "re-size" in the sense, often, of "putting something in its proper perspecitve" and thus "seeing it seeing (e.g., a problem) in its real, and not exaggeratedly large or seemingly insoluble form." A "cutting down to size." The behavior of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and its many fervent supporters, requires not one response, but many different things. Support the Iranian stations in Los Angeles. Support the Shah's son. But also support Rajavi. Also support Kurds (through Kurds in Iraq) to start their own war. Support the Arabs in Khuzistan, in the one place that the Islamic Republic of Iran must hold onto at all costs. Support, including weaponry, for the Baluchis, and propaganda directed at the Azeris, should be cause not only for alarm in Iran, but constant worry about the loyalty of the 50% of the population that is non-Persian, in addition to the disaffected Persians (the higher up on the phylogenetic scale, the more disaffected one will be; the most primitive Persians are the truest supporters of the regime).

Perhaps Iran will require, unfortunately, permanent "re-sizing." Not only would this meet with no opposition from Sunni Arabs, whose opinions, apparently, some in Washington still believe must be factored in, but in Saudi Arabia, awful as it is, hearts would be lifted.

If one cared about the future existence of Iran -- that is, if one were an Iranian patriot rather than a supporter of the Islamic Republic of Iran -- one ought to be moving heaven and earth to disrupt the regime's nuclear project. Otherwise, a possible, a likely, a very probable "re-sizing."

“World War III”

From Campaign for Families:
http://www.campaignforfamilies.org/

Speaking on Meet the Press Sunday, former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich explained the crisis in the Middle East in stark terms few politicians are willing to contemplate. I believe his analysis is accurate and I have made similar points repeatedly in this daily report. Here are some excerpts from his Meet the Press appearance:

MR. GINGRICH: “…First, this is not the fifth day of the war. This is the 58th year of the effort by those who want to destroy Israel. As Ahmadinejad, the head of Iran, says, he wants to defeat the Americans and eliminate Israel from the face of the earth. So we should not see this event in isolation. There is an Iran/Syria/Hezbollah and Hamas alliance trying to destroy Israel. ….

“I mean, this is absolutely a question of the survival of Israel, but it’s also a question of what is really a world war. Look what you’ve been covering: …The North Koreans fire seven missiles on our Fourth of July; bombs going off in [Bombay], India; a war in Afghanistan with sanctuaries in Pakistan. As I said a minute ago, the Iran/Syria/Hamas/Hezbollah alliance. A war in Iraq funded largely from Saudi Arabia and supplied largely from Syria and Iran.

The British home secretary saying that there are 20 terrorist groups with 1,200 terrorists in Britain. Seven people in Miami videotaped pledging allegiance to al-Qaeda, and 18 people in Canada being picked up with twice the explosives that were used in Oklahoma City, with an explicit threat to bomb the Canadian parliament, and saying they’d like to behead the Canadian prime minister. And finally, in New York City, reports that in three different countries people were plotting to destroy the tunnels of New York.

“…we are in the early stages of what I would describe as the third world war, and frankly, our bureaucracies aren’t responding fast enough, we don’t have the right attitude about this, and this is the 58th year of the war to destroy Israel.

MR. RUSSERT: “This is World War III?”

MR. GINGRICH: “I believe if you take all the countries I just listed, that you’ve been covering, put them on a map, look at all the different connectivity, you’d have to say to yourself this is, in fact, World War
III.”

And no part of Iran is safe, either.

"Today, the United States, not Saddam Hussein, controls Iraq's vast airspace. Military analysts suggest the United States might approve the mission passively by letting the jets fly both ways unencumbered."

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060717-105737-9603r.htm

Great One;

Not to mention a little help with the mid-air refueling that would be necessary to get an F-15/16 from Israel to Iran and back.

Foehammer wrote: "Think about this region's history and remind yourself that if the Muslims come into greater positions of power in Europe"

I'm most concerned about muslims coming into power in European nuclear nations. A 'bloodless' coup so to say, although nothing done in the name of Allah is ever bloodless is it? All they need to do is keep breeding and they will eventually dominate Europe by sheer numbers.

The biggest problem is European nuclear nations have weapons as 'deterrents' and muslims have no idea what deterrence is. If they ever got their hands on a nuclear arsenal they would launch away at everyone, even opposing sects of islam.

Foehammer-

Really good comment.

Hugh,

Re: "....Iran will require, unfortunately, permanent "re-sizing." ......but in Saudi Arabia, awful as it is, hearts would be lifted."

I feel your pain-LOL.

Ordinarily, el Saud would be blasting away with full-oral action, but only silence. Some pathetic call for the international countries to 'act.' And earllier, a condemnation of the Shia's in Lebanon. This is unheard of. They, el Saudi, are scared. For even 80 dollar a barrell oil can not undo the fissures within Islam. They are scared of a Shia Lebanon, one-day Shia Syria, Syria Iraq with the head of the beast in Iran. I nice little Shia crescent spread around here, eveloping her. I'm told that much of the Saudi oil producing regions are Shia as well. Don't lots of those good folks have Satelite tv? They can't be too happy about the lack of support for 'Nasrallah in need of a shower.' It may not be the US or Israel that takes care of Iran. Perhaps there could be a preemptive Sunnis strike into Iran, for I wonder if Saudi now must demonstrate whose more Catholic than the Pope in a very big way. Teach those Shia dogs a lesson.

Saudi goals. Stop, stiffle, constrain Iran, give aid to the Sunni insurgents in Iraq(not 'just' Jihad--but mostly Jihad with a twist of killing some Shia's and protecting the Sunni position), withhold support for Nasrallah--an Iranian puppet who needs a bath. If the Iranian chiefs are gutted, better look at Riyadh for support of any such operation. I love it . . . "intraJihad" operations. Leave the infedels alone, boys, go for it.

The crowd responded with chants of "Death to Israel!" They are taught such things at birth. Unfortunately the stupid bastards will never learn to read or write or think for themselves.

Iran's warning of the United State is an analogous of a dwaft showing off his puny virility to a full grown seven-foot stout men.

Saddam did it once, but he was found in the pit, as filthy as a beggar.

Appearantly, all thugs are the same; they never learned. It's must be an Islamic intoxication with a fantasized manlihood.

The pesky fly is making a lot of noise.

When I was new to this country, I was very puzzled by that fact that our football competition was called an internation competition. I said to myself, "there isn't other country participating in the competition, but why is it called an international competition?"

There reality is true: It is an internation class competition because no other country dare to compete with us.

The same is true about Israel: She does not need to bow to the Islamic calling for the international pressure. As far as I am concern, the U.S.A. or Israel alone is International.
The ability to defend youself is all it matters. Screw the world opinions; it's worthless.

My friend in Israel wrote me this weekend. Here is what she said:

How are you doing?
Here we are under fire. People here are killed in the streets and in their homes. Our house in the range of fire too. I cannot sleep at night, checking the girls every few moments. Hope for good.
Say hello to everyone.

That is me. That is us. That is all of us. Remember that when you tell yourself it's far, far away and little more than an armchair abstraction. This is not a thought experiment.

I expect things to go from bad to worse. We know Syria and Iran have chemical weapons. They must be somewhat frustrated by the international community giving Israel the room to take out Hizbollah. Watch the devils...they are likely to do something horrible to the Lebanese people and make it look as though Israel did it...just like the beach incident in Gaza. If something horrible was done with chemical weapons, the world community might change its position. I worry for Israel. In islam being a bold-faced liar is fine. Murder is fine. Being a barbaric animal is fine. I wouldn't put anything past them. They are probably getting desperate, but are too stupid and have too much pride to admit it.

'This is not a thought experiment.'

Powerful posting Plague. I think (hope?) that Americans are coming to this realisation. The mouthpieces of the Democratic party are now calling for 'overwhelming force'.

There is a gutteral, evolutionary default that we fall back upon when faced with a threat to our survival. Lets hope that we can engage it before a population center is lost.

"Israel Presses For Oil From Shale" http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/jul2006/gb20060705_516609.htm?campaign_id=alerts Eliyahu, Shy Guy, HaMalach, Amit, et al

Can you get into this Shale Oil business faaast, and start exporting - to US, India, China and all other Infidel countries? We'd rather make you rich, rather than those Sheikhs in the Gulf. You can use that cash anyway you wish - sea water filtration systems, canals to the Dead Sea, nuclear plants, more semiconductor fabs in the Negev, palaces in Marbella, solar car projects, laying fiber cable all under Israel, kibbutz's and synagogues worldwide, cradle to grave welfare for socialist Israelis,... anything! Some of these suggestions are worthier than others, but any of them sure beats mosques and madrassas mushrooming up all over the world.

IDF: One week to remove threat in North

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150886032979&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Army says 40-50% of Hizbullah's capability destroyed in latest operations.

I'll mark July 25 on my calendar.

Infidel pride,

I appreciate the article; it's very encouraging. Yes, God bless Israel.

Bless you too Infidel.

Hopefully, soon we can fart on Allah's head.

Time for the West to send an ultimatim to Iran (10 days to irrecovably agree to no nukes and full inspection), occupy the islands off the Straits of Hormuz, and target Nasrallah, the Mullahs, Ahmenijihad. All with conventional air power.

This is best done now while the Israelis are de-rat-ing and delousing Lebanon of the Hesbollah.

It's a good time to kill jihadis.

No part of earth is safe.Frankly.What the Mullahs etc.. are saying and doing is letting it be clear to all, there plans, here and now, and there support for the countinued war against Isreal.My fear is this: we here in the US and the West generally and Isreal are way behind in this conflict.The global beracrecy is molded in such a way that such conflict is nearly unavoidable.The UN resalotions have been passed.The die is cast.Faiuler has been nearly instatusenalized.Polcie failer one after another is nearly instansenalized.I dont want any larger warfare.But all Our global efforts are simply inadaquete.

Three conerns:

1. The Iranian sponsered scumbags will try to provoke the US by hitting at a US ship, calling it payback. This would ensure W to hit Iran today, so I doubt it. The variation of this theme would be immediate targeting of Americans vacationing in Lebanon--say while streaming into the US embassy, then transferring them to the Shia District as captives to pressure the US to stop. It's amazing all the single woman who are apparnetly traveling through Lebanon. This is a high risk area.

2. The Shia's hit Tel Aviv hard, giving it everything they have as to provoke Israel in demolishing Lebanon with full force--leading Iran to be the man on the white horse, perhaps sending missles against Israel. This would sow disunity amongst the Arabs--rallying the Palis, whipping up the 'arab street' against the 'moderate' Sunnis who are fearfull, perhaps keeping fueled on the Riyadh airport--ready for a one way trip to Paris.

3. A slow 'burn-out' with fewer and fewer attacks by the Shias and fewer responses back by Israel--a kind of 'slow burn' conflict.

4. A massive 'hit' on American positions in Iraq. We are in a slow burn of sorts over there as well. The Shia scum could well attack, claiming linkage with Hibullah, although they haven't needed much of an exuse for killing Amreicans for the past three and a half years--what's another exuse?

Watch for it: kidnappings of Americans in Lebanon. Any parent letting a single teen take her summer vacation to an Arab country is nuts. Watch for an assault on T. Aviv by Iranian hardware--provoking Iran and Israel to move against one another. The weak link. What I truly worry about most, is the diffuse 25,000 Americans in Lebanon. Many single woman--spread out--waiting to descend from the Mountains down to the embassy--then to ships--all easy targets--especially for groups of Americans. Iran though could very well want to back off at this point--let their nulear program yield a bomb or two, smuiggle it into Lebanon--and then hit Israel.

I'll give the Iranian Chimp in need of a shave CEO his due: he's a one trick pony of hate. No listening to Oscar Peterson or watching the cubbies on WGN in his office. No beer either. No music or art. Just a bull's eye of uncle sam and the star of david.

Did anyone see Tony Snow this morning? Helen Thomas was her usual harpy self, did you know she is arab? (Don't know if she is "small c" Christian or muslim)
http://web.ulib.csuohio.edu/arabs/pg238.html
She is certainly critical of Israel....hmmm

Carolyn2

Helen is a beauty, of Troy fame. She's in fact what the 72 virgins all look like.

An interesting link about a speech old Hellen gave.
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1784

Rench,

The game has just begun. Why? You are loosing heart already. You may not want the war, but it wants you.

It will not ravish your front, but it will enter from you BEHIND.

Biorabbi, I share the same concerns about how Iran may try to meddle and stir things up. In fact as soon as I heard about a cruise ship being sent to Lebanon I immediately thought of the fate of the Israeli ship hit with a missile.
And just in time for the War season Iranian Hezbollah announces it is ready to hit American interests

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-07-18T180844Z_01_OLI848020_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-IRAN-HIZBOLLAH.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

The US cannot afford back down or show weakness even if Hezbollah carries out such attacks.

For those of you who have satellite TV, note that the Islam Channel, broadcasting all Islam, all the time, will be coming to American TV soon:

http://www.islamchannel.tv/

You can browse that website to get an idea of what programs they're going to be broadcasting right here in America. One of them is a personal advice talk show for Muslims, called "The Hassan and Habibah Show." In their episode on the status of motherhood, they said:

The Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) said that "Homemaking raises the station of a woman to the level of those who make Jihad"

When is someone (Country or leader) going to say "That because Hizbollah/Himas are the official/non-official militant arm of Syria and Iran, and because Syria and Iran are financially supporting them, militarily arming them, and completely issuing orders, that Syria and Iran have fulfilled "acts of war" and are "at war", which makes attacking Syria and Iran completely legal".

And the fact that you have a "Iranian lawmaker" a "Parlimentary Speaker" issuing the above statement at America is a provacation and act of war.

It is time to hit them before they hit us. The White House needs to show how that Syria and Iran are the leaders of Hizbollah/Himas.

And George W. needs to go in front of America and tell Iran "I am tired of this shit", and the statement with some cruise missiles and US Marines.

How lame dicked do we need to be to have a country tell us that they are going to hit us and for us to do nothing?

Limes,

The Israelis have five KC-135 jet tankers for mid-air refueling, if they don't want American tankers to help. The problem is where to do the refueling. Virtually all air corridors between Israel and Iran go through potentially hostile airspace: Turkey, Saudi Arabia or Iraq. And lumbering jet tankers are easy targets. That would be a problem even if the U.S. Air Force tankers helped refuel the Israeli planes.

But Saudi Arabia despises Iran so much that the Saudis might, just might, look the other way if they knew that Israel was about to cut Iran down to size. It would be a daring gamble, but it might just work.

Alaskan1000,
I can understand your frustration. You see, GWB wouldn't mind droping the bird shit on Iran and Syria, but the problem is the liberals and the left would like to be popular amongst the Moselmen,who have infiltrated the ACLU, Amnesty International, Human Right Org.,etc.

The they have our people being their spokesperson. You see: some people here eat Islamic shit before the bird shit even drop on Iran and Syria.

Bio and Great: Agreed that Ahmedinejad's history of taking hostages to humiliate the US is established and, unfortunately, its bound to happen again. A good bet is that there's a couple of rings of militants surrounding the US embassy and the port waiting for the signal.

What to do about it? Probably nothing ahead of time other than quietly warning our people of the threat as Bush would be blamed for initiating the whole thing.

Perhaps something along these lines-all publically announced:
(1) a 24-hour grace period where all hostages could be returned un-hurt. No harm-no foul.
(2) all military targets in Syria are fair game after 24-hours.
(3) all military targets in Iran are fair game after 48-hours.
(4) commercial targets are fair game the next day.

In the day, didn't a vanquished country traditionally give up territories to the victor? How about nationalizing Iran's offshore oil platforms and reserves for US use in its 'peacekeeping' operations?

I don't know if this makes any sense but it sure seams like it would beat another prolonged hostage crisis.

"For those of you who have satellite TV, note that the Islam Channel, broadcasting all Islam, all the time, will be coming to American TV soon:

http://www.islamchannel.tv/"
-- from a posting above

Neither this channel, nor any other channel that contains Muslim propaganda, should be allowed in this or any other Infidel country. The Congress has to stop it -- the same way it would have stopped, no did stop, Nazi propaganda in this country during World War II. We are not obliged to make the campaigns of Da'was easier -- these campaigns, though apparently few in the grandly-named Department of Homeland Security apparently realize it -- are part of the same Jihad, merely employing a different instrument for the same goal, that those whom the Department of Homeland Security thinks represent the threat of "terror." "Terror" is not the point. Jihad is. Radio Berlin and Radio Tokyo would not, one supposes, be on the air today if World War II is in progress.

But of course banning such stations -- as France banned Al-Manar, the Hezbollah station -- requires some redefining of the conflict. It is not a "war on terror." It is a war to check the Jihad -- the duty of "struggle" by Muslims against Unbelievers and the barriers they set up to the spread of islam, in order to ensure that eventually Islam comes to dominate, and Muslims to rule, everywhere.

A violation of First Amendment rights, you say? Not at all. Not if those First Amendment rights are carefully defined. Let the legislation pass. Let a case be brought by listeners to Al Jazeera and "islamchannel." Let the evidence be presented that Islam inculcates hatred and violence toward Infidels that the requirements of the Brandenburg Test ("imminent lawless violence") are met, or if not, that the Brandenburg Test itself needs revisiting, and then revision.

A new standard, a new test, could be formulated. In the end, it should be constitutional, if that test is fashioned right, to permit Congress to ban the widespread dissemination of "speech" that preaches hatred toward a large undifferentiated mass of people, only becuase they are Unbelievers, non-Muslims, and to prevent such "speech" from enjoying constitutional guarantees. If such murderous hatred is denied, then let all the evidence be presented, as with the Calcutta Qur'an petition, or the recent case, involving clergymen, in Australia. Get that evidence into the record, for then, whatever the case result, that evidence will appear in every casebook of Constitutional Law, and in the hypotheticals that will appear on the Bar Examination's Multi-State, and every single lawyer n America will have been exposed, in Constitutional Law, to the most disturbing parts of the Qur'an and Hadith.

Qur'an 9.29. Qur'an 9.5. The entire sura. And a hundred other passages in the Qur'an. And hundreds of Hadith. And the figure, the model of a perfect man, Muhammad. Let it all get into those casebooks. Let the case, as it is reported on by Nina Totenberg or a hundred others, become widely known, and the teachings of Islam that matter here also widely known.

Use every occasion as a teaching moment, minute, hour, month, year.

While driving back to work, I heard a caller from Jerusalem on Sean Hannity's radio program who made a brilliant point re: the argument of the disproportionate response. He pointed out that Hizbullah wants hundreds or thousands of their prisoners to be released in exchange of just 3 Israeli soldiers. If that is okay, then what is wrong with magnitude of the Israeli response?

Hugh

Doesn't the first amendment apply only to American citizens? Why is it unconstitutional to ban a foreign organization, such as the BBC, or al Jazeera, or the Islamic channel? They don't have the same protection as American citizens. It should be no problems for the administration to ban the above from operating in the US.

The last few times I visited Calcutta, I saw that among the many channels on TV, there was a 'Q' channel, which was 24 hours Quran (and maybe Hadith, Tafseer...) It didn't seem dangerous insofar as all the sermons were in Arabic, rather than Urdu or Bengali. Of course, to those local Muslims who do understand Arabic, or the contents of these, it could be seen as a call to arms.

slightly ot, but related to the Lebanese issue

In an About-Face, Sunnis Want U.S. to Remain in Iraq
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/17/world/middleeast/17sunnis.html?ex=1153800000&en=6ac75d9b5ebfe0d8&ei=5070&emc=eta1

and

Arab Majority May Not Stay Forever Silent
http://www.nysun.com/article/36110

(consider the source though)

* Abdul Rahman al-Rashed, the general manager of Al-Arabiya, possibly the most influential Arab opinion-maker today, was categorical yesterday: "We have lost most of our causes and the largest portions of our lands following fiery speeches and empty promises of struggle coupled with hallucinating, drug-induced political fantasies." As for joining Hezbollah in its quest, his answer was basically, "you broke it, you own it."

alaskan1000 -

I COMPLETELY agree with you! Iran and Syria ARE responsible for Hez, and they're making a mockery of us all by lying through their teeth and saying that they AREN'T responsible. Of course they are!

We need to stand up to these murdering, lying terrorist-thugs before they really do get the upper hand.

Iranian lawmaker. Is that anything like a square circle?

You're right Champ. There has got to be a way to sneak people with really good rifle skills into places where the leaders are fanning the flames of islam. That would help get rid of the tentacles and then we need to get rid of the root cause.

Before we get started, of course, we need to clean house. Round up, deport or whatever it takes to protect ourselves since Imadingdong threatened us AGAIN. It would be a good idea if Europe did the same thing.

It's easier to control them if they're all in one place.

I for one, am not going to let my friend's emails become another 'Diary of Anne Frank'.

The mo-foes will not succeed.

Infidel Pride-

Here is an explanation I have heard that stuck with me:

“Proportionate” is often a mere measurement and does not always mean “equal”. But let’s say for a minute that Israel should be expected to answer “in kind”.

If Hezbollah strikes a crowded marketplace and kills 10 innocent civilians, Israel should then pick 10 innocent Lebanese civilians and take them out as well. The same would go for Hamas in Palestinian territories.

Is that proportionate enough of a response? Or are these “proportional proponents” really saying that Israel should not respond at all?

-XRDC

The Palestinians have been training for some time now and are ready for… something.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/captioncontest/archive/10407.shtml

Cirque du Jihad, perhaps? (caption)

-XRDC

The article 'arab majority may not stay silent forever...' cast a more optimistic picture than I believe is justfied. The Saudis really said 'this isn't the time', not 'don't ever attack Israel'. I get the impression that really the majority or large minority of muslims are leaning towards islamism (40% want sharia in the UK!), but that they would rather bide their time. I did take heart from his comments about women wearing tents etc, but I think he is part of a small, educated and liberal elite that doesn't represent the views of many muslims.

Unfortunately.

Limes and Steven L. Couldn't the Saudi's claim 'plausible denialability,' and have not they done that before?????

If my foggy brain reminds me correctly, the AWAC's armed Saudi's and the playboy King Hussein--on royal yacht--both seemed to snooze as that Israeli F16 squad raced from Israel to Iraq and back in 1981. Hussein, in fact, saw the squad fly by and back several hours later and forgot to call anybody in Iraq! And he was a pilot. The Saudis looked the other way--or possibly were discreetly warned to look the otherway and somehow the Israeli squad was ignored by radar in Jordan and Saudi Arabia? Apparently, neither country was too anxious for Sadam to go nuclear.

I would guess--with a 95 % confidence interval--that the Saudis would be even less enthusiastic for Iran to go nuclear! especially after the latest Shia antics and angry comments from Nasrallah aimed at the Arab countries who are ignoring their plight. The US would have to be notified because of Iraq. I wonder, would the Israeli submarines be a possibility as well??? As Hugh has pointed out, it doesn't have to be done at once, even setting back the program by a few years is a good thing.

XRDC

Proportional implies equal ratios, not equal numbers. So, if Hizbullah wipes out 600 people, that would be 0.01 of Israel's population of 6 million. Since Israel is under attack by a mix of Iranians, Lebanese and maybe even Iraqi Shias, a proportional response should mean that they target 0.01% of the world's Shia population? The world's Shia population would be close to 100 million (add the populations of Iran, Iraq, Bahrein, Azerbaijan, and add a certain % of the sub-continent population to that number). Calculated, a proportional response means take out 10,000 Shia? Or better still, 100,000 Muslims?

Sounds good to me. I join in the Euro-dhimmi chorus for a proportional response. ;->

The Goobs

You are right. Muslims are quite capable of staging an atrocity to get sympathy - and this they will get unconditionally from an anti-Israeli, anti-Western media such as the BBC.

I recall the market square bombing in Sarajevo that turned opinion in the West, or the shooting of Muahammed Dura.

Hi BioRabbi and Steven;

Nothing is ever easy but, if we can fly the President in and out of Baghdad, I have a high level of confidence that Israel's best fighter pilots would be able to pull off a mid-air refueling at 30,000ft over the Iraqi desert.

If Israel has submarines with land-attack capability, its news to me. The strike eagles and bunker busters referenced above in the Washington Times article are 'plenty capable'.

Hell'sbullies have made a threat to bomb Tel Aviv with 500 bombs and give one hour to evacuate. I hope it is hot air.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21625_Tel_Aviv_Attack_Imminent&only

Hello! I painted my personal tribute to Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah here: http://enealefons.blogspot.com I hope you'll enjoy!

:)

Ordinarily, el Saud would be blasting away with full-oral action, but only silence.

Not surprising in the least. Saudi Arabia controls both Mecca & Medina - the two "holiest" sites in the moslem world with a huge annual tourist influx. More than one faction would love to depose them. A nuclear, mullah-ruled Iran would mean their imminent downfall

Saudi & Jordan militaries are trained and equipped by the US and there is a large US military presence in Saudi, not counting the troops in Kuwait and Iraq. Egypt is the single largest recipient of foreign aid from the US.

Muslims are quite capable of staging an atrocity to get sympathy -

Or to provide an excuse!

Infidel Pride-

It ain't just the Euro-dhimmis my friend!

Here's to a proportional response!

-XRDC

Anyone know the story with Fox Military analyst, Bob Bevelacqua? He just espressed (on O'reilly) that Israel should "tone it down" and that Mossad could've taken out Hezbollah without hurting other Lebanese. This seems to describe his "take" on Israel's approach:

http://www.captainsjournal.com/2006/07/16/israel-hesitating-on-hezbollah/

"He was livid over Israel’s targeting of Lebanese infrastructure, essentially saying that it will effect changes that are directly contrary to their aim."

I must admit that hearing of the Lebanese army barracks being hit seems contrary to the request to dispatch the Lebanese forces to the border.

-XRDC

Major Bob Bevelacqua is a former U.S. Army Green Beret who works with the WVC3 Group in Reston, Va., an elite security group that provides homeland security services, support, and technologies to government and commercial clients

Bevelacqua has a 17-year history of worldwide military experience, including combat in the Gulf War; riot control during the L.A. riots; a peacekeeping mission in Haiti, security assistance missions in West African countries; and numerous anti-drug missions on the U.S. border with Mexico.

Well, he's only a Major, appears to have been out of the service for a while and didn't do his 20. The bit about riot control during the LA riots sounds like at least part of his service was as a Reserve officer. I'm sure he has areas of expertise, but I wouldn't expect them to be strategic planning - no mention of his attending the War College.

XRDC and Infidel Pride -

Here was an excellent article at frontpagemag today ("Axis of Hypocrisy") mocking the "disproportionate use of force" claim:

http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23401

What a bulls**t argument anyway! Nobody following the global jihad doubts that the jihadis would use "disproportionate force" against the infidels if they had it. Islam is nothing if not genocidal. That's arguably what its all about - genocide of the unbelievers (with 1350 years to back that up).

The fact that these folks are currently out of touch with reality takes a back seat to the fact that they THINK they have the military capacity to commit genocide. It's their intentions that matter and if civilized people, who are more in touch with reality, happen to have the military capacity to crush those genocidal intentions through the use of "disproportionate force", then I would say they are morally obligated to use that force to do just that. To defeat, without question or apology, those who are intent on genocide.

The point of the use of disproportionate force is to WIN. Every winner, logically, has presumably always used disproportionate force, or how else did they win? The fact that Israel is trying to use that force to defeat those with genocidal intent makes the use of disproportionate force (enough to win) totally moral.

As to this whole issue about Lebanese civilian deaths - until someone breaks down statistically, the number of these so-called innocent civilians who lived in Hezbollah territory or even provided civilian cover for them firing their rockets into Israel (including no doubt Hezbollah's wives and children) - until those civilians are removed from the category of "innocent" and separated out from say Christians inadvertently bombed, then I remain unmoved by these civilian casualties.

I notice that LGF had a post earlier that Hizbollah was blocking the roads to prevent civilians from leaving southern Lebanon, as they NEED their human shields in order to manipulate the press into any moral high ground they can grasp at. But even then, I am STILL unmoved inasmuch as I suspect that many of those trying to flee now quite probably had no problem with what Hezbollah had been doing for many years now.

Israel needs to hang tough and realize how many westerners have, only in the past few years, come to understand the global jihad. The old games played by the likes of the Palestinians and Hezbollah just aren't going to work anymore. Especially when so many infidels now see clearly that Israel is on the front lines of a war that has been declared against all of us (just see Ahmadinejad's latest comments).

To quote Bob Dylan - "For the times they are a-changin'."

On the off chance that it needed saying at this site of all places, my heart is with Israel and especially with all the Israeli posters (and lurkers) here.

If things worsen and Hezbollah turns out to have some surprises up their sleeves, I hope to hell our military is prepared to go in and back up the IDF. If there's any doubt about our willingness to do that, then I assume that when the time comes, we'll all be getting on the phone to our senators and congressmen, urging them to support such a resolution. Until then, I guess we just watch somewhat helplessly, hoping for the best.

Hi guys,
I haven't read all your great posts in detail as yet; busy writing to local MSM newspaper editor, aarrgghh, but I just got some interesting info via email.
Please act upon it. We have little choice.I hope the links work.
Thank you.

URGENT:

It is absolutely critical that All Freedom Loving People act at this time to thank President Bush for his Support of Israel in its efforts to disarm Hezbollah. PLEASE CALL the President and our Senators and Congressmen and ask them to encourage Israel to continue its DEFENSIVE military operation to destroy Hezbollah rockets and infrastructure in Lebanon, and NOT to succumb to world pressure to impose a false "cease fire" that would protect and strengthen both the Hezbollah
and Hamas Terror groups.

Please Call the Whitehouse at:
202-456-1111

E-mail to:
comments@whitehouse.gov

Call and e-mail your Senators and Congressmen:

Find Contact info at
www.senate.gov and www.house.gov

Henry Kissinger (I believe) said, "In a guerrilla war, the guerrillas win by not losing and the army loses by not winning."

This is why Israel must go all the way and eradicate "The party of (the false) god."

Anything short of that and another victory will be chalked up to Hizbullah and Hamas in their twisted history books.

-XRDC

You know, the history books that have this in them:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1136361078337&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

-XRDC

Gramfan - thank you for those links. I took your advice and sent this admittedly clumsy email to the White House:

I want to thank President Bush for standing behind Israel so far and putting the blame for this "crisis" where it belongs - with Hezbollah (the terrorists) and with Hezbollah's terrorist sponsoring states - Syria and most especially, Iran. PLEASE do not listen to or join in the international calls for Israel to use "restraint" against those who are trying to perpetrate a genocide against her. Besides the fact of a moral imperative to protect the Jewish people of Israel against a 2nd holocaust - a "final solution" in a new guise - President Bush famously said that "You are either with us or against us" after we were attacked on 9/11. Clearly Israel is "With Us"! They are fighting our mutual enemies. Now the question for US, and for president Bush especially is, ARE WE WITH ISRAEL? Or are we against Israel?

If the answer is the former (as we ourselves demanded of our putative allies in OUR hour of need), then we must stand with Israel and if necessary, move with her against Iran, if that is where this leads in the near future. And who is anyone kidding here - that IS where this is leading anyway. We (and Israel and the free world) can pay the unpleasant price now or the impossible price later.

I write this as a US citizen, very well informed about current events, and encouraging the President to stand NOW with Israel, and unapologetically, in her hour of need as she confronts literally genocidal forces in the region.

Iraq, in retrospect, didn't work out so well. Admittedly, many of us in the west (the President included it would seem) knew little about Islam and its goals when we went in there. But we know now. We definitely know now! So now there's no excuse, no begging ignorance. Noone can pretend they don't understand that Israel is facing intended genocide at her Muslim neighbor's hands and noone, least of all President Bush, should be able to pretend that he doesn't understand WHY that is the case, from the Muslim point of view.

But this is now a moral issue. And we absolutely MUST stand on the right side of that issue or I don't think we can survive morally as a people, as the Europeans are proving today, by example, through their collective suicide, having failed the Jews when it was their time to take a moral stand on the side of good, and in opposition to the forces of evil.

Caroline,
you have done a great job! I think it is excellent! Am doing same.

Also, from another email I have heard that sending a fax is a better option.

FAXES to the White House:
Fax: 202-456-2461
From Australia 0011 is the prefix.

I am adding the letter I spent all morning working on to the local lefty rag:The Age.
Aussie JWDW posters will perhaps better appreciate this, but in essence it is something we all know too well.

Dear Sir/ Madam,

I am no longer a subscriber to the Age. I felt it was time for me to go after your got rid of you best journalists: Pamela Bone (due to illness, I know), Tony Parkinson and Gerard Henderson. These people had a well-rounded and more experienced view of things. It seems to me you need writers who are perhaps a little older and need more historical experience to appeal to my age demographic.
I do not consider myself left or right wing. I believe in common sense!

I have written to you before about this at the time of Michael Leunig's misappropriated cartoon.

Your current coverage of the Middle East tragedy is a perfect example of what I am perturbed about.

I am at a loss as to why you haven't sufficiently emphasised the fact that Hezbollah and hamas made incursions into Israeli sovereign territory and kidnapped soldiers.This seems to be eluding so many of your readers - judging by the letters pages.

Any country, including Australia, would see this as an act of war and take appropriate action, which is what the Israeli's are doing. Many say this is an over-reaction. Is it indeed?

I would like to point out that last year Gaza was returned to the Palestinians and since then rockets in their hundreds have pounded Israel. Also, the Israeli's left Southern Lebanon 6 years ago and the UN instructed the Lebanese government to disarm Hezbollah who are now firing rockets/missiles into Israel.
We all know that the UN expects Israel to abide by its resolutions. It seems then that Hezbollah is not required to do this,,,,if not - why not?

I would also like to point out that the late Zarqawi killed over 6000 muslims in Iraq and not a word from you or your letter writers. The man, an obvious mass murderer, is now a hero in the Arab world. More are dying daily in homicide bomb attacks. It is a tragedy!

I deplore the fact that over 200 have lost their lives in Lebanon but it seems your line is:
"It's okay for muslims to kill muslims, but heaven help the Israeli's if they kill even one muslim!"

You seem to make no mention of the fact that Israeli's are also suffering here. Their country has been threatened with extermination for the past 50 - odd years but do you say anything about this?
This tiny outpost of democracy has been demonised by your paper and other main stream media.

I believe you have no idea what is going on here. This isn't just about Israel and it's neighbours, it isn't just about the United States (another of your whipping boys), and Iraq. It is about a clash of civilizations.
The muslim world makes no secret of the fact they want to take over the entire world and have us all live under sharia law.They are, so far, doing a great job of conquering the west. It's simple demographics.

This to me is the main issue that you should be covering. I know you haven't got the nerve to do this. You didn't even have the nerve to publish the Mohammed cartoons! Do you think it is right that muslims around the world (who we don't even vote for) are able to dictate to us what we can and cannot read??

You may think I am being alarmist. I wish that were true.

It will be interesting to see how you feel when you lose your freedom of speech, and your female journalists are in burqas. Give it 25 years if we are lucky!

Here are some websites your journalists may wish to see.I think it will give you a more fair and balanced point of view.
http://jihadwatch.org/
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/
http://www.faithfreedom.org/

I also recommend the writings of Oriana Fallaci, Hirsi Ali and Bat Yeor.

My biggest concern is the survival of Western Culture - yes, all the good, the bad, and the ugly!

That is where I am coming from. It would be an indescribable loss: too terrible to contemplate!
Cordially,
(I signed it)

sorry all, that prefix should be
00111 202-456-2461 for the White House from OZ.

'Muslims enmity toward Israel will never cease'

Ummah News Links

Anyone know the story with Fox Military analyst, Bob Bevelacqua? -XRDC

What I got out of the story is that he runs the Beirut office of his government contractor and has thirty Lebanese working for him.

I think that everyone has empathy for those who marched for a righteous cause a year ago, only to be forced into submission by Hezbollah, and who are now being blasted by Israel. Bevelacqua's empathy is probably greater than most due to his close personal contacts. Its true that the forces of good in Lebanon are taking one for the team.

Lesson re-learned: Peace through Strength

p.s. He did advocate action against Syria and Iran.

>>>'Muslims enmity toward Israel will never cease'

Ummah News Links

Posted by: ummahnewslinks

There has been much consternation in the muslim world about western style Democracy. Interestingly enough when muslims do freely elect governments such as in Palastine or Lebanon they have been electing governments whose main espoused goal is the destruction of Israel and the United States. Many people in the muslim community support these adgendas, ergo Hamas and Hezbolah won recent Democratic victories. Up untill now these groups have had the luxury of acting covertly as "terror" organizations. These "terror" organizations exist because the population support a war, but know they do not have the capability to prevail overtly. With these governments the people have chosen overt war the electorate does not lie. The actions of these govenments should not suprise anyone, as they are enacting the stated goals that got them elected. What should suprise people is the suprise of being suprised by all of this. Southern Lebanon and Palestine are getting what they voted for, open war. The act of voting in Hamas and Hezbolah was a declairation of war by the people of Palastine and Lebanon, which only serves to legitamize the current Israeli actions as defensive against formal declarations of war from Lebanon and Palastine. It is hard to feel sorry for the people that freely voted for this future. I saw on MSNBC on represenative of Hezbolah complaining about civilian casualites in Southern Lebanon. Well is it not these poeple that voted in Hezbolah? Is Hezbolah not doing what they promised? If so are these people not getting what they want? Democracy in the Middle East is great we get to see true representation of Muslim sentiment. It causes the terror organizations to become legitimate Govenment bodies. When the acts of these Govenments commit acts of war it can be considered as an act of war by the people of the entire country, not some diffuse ellusive "terror" organization. Then the people of these countries that support these ideologies can be made to attone more openly for thier activites. The great thing about Democracy is that it implies responsibility. This turn is only logical. Israel should level Southern Lebanon and turn it into a DMZ, round up all that will not leave and send them into Syria and Iran 50/50. Then the same should also be done with the Palastinians. See how these trouble makers deal with millions of refugees.

Gramfan: "We all know that the UN expects Israel to abide by its resolutions. It seems then that Hezbollah is not required to do this,,,,if not - why not?"

I presume that is because Hezbollah is a "non-state" actor. And hence not beholden to UN resolutions. That's the (supposed) beauty of rogue Muslim states using non-state actors to carry out their aims. Which of course is the point of US policy, post 9/11, of holding the state sponsors of such "non-state" actors responsible for the terrorist acts their proxies perpetrate nonetheless. Which presumably, and hopefully, is precisely what we will end up doing with Iran (holding them responsible), where Hezbollah is concerned.

"Gramfan: "I deplore the fact that over 200 have lost their lives in Lebanon but it seems your line is: "It's okay for muslims to kill muslims, but heaven help the Israeli's if they kill even one muslim!"

Well ain't that the truth? And that doesn't apply merely to Israeli's killing Muslims - it applies equally to any infidels killing Muslims.

It's completely absurd at this point for any Muslims (or their fellow lefty western travellers) to blame US forces for the death toll in Iraq, for example. We defeated Saddam's forces in 3 WEEKS - let me repeat that - 3 WEEKS! - back in April 2003, with minimal casualties to the civilian population. The rest has been a bloodbath perpetrated by MUSLIMS!

Yes OBVIOUSLY "it's okay for Muslims to kill Muslims".

In other words, Muslims have assumed a total MONOPOLY on the right to kill. They couldn't care less about Muslims (let alone infidels LOL!) getting killed, as long as Muslims are doing the killing. Obviously, their only concern is that THEY have the right to decide WHO gets killed. And their RIGHT to decide that even includes their right to decide that those who get killed shall be their wives, sisters, daughters, children, and neighbors. They will even block the escape routes for their southern Lebanese neighbors so that they get to decide who lives and dies.

Life is so pathetically cheap for Muslims. Their own lives plus the lives of their women and children and "ummah"-neighbors - all cheap as hell.

That being the obvious case, we westerners (and non-western infidels), for whom life is very precious, must not succumb to these transparent attempts of Hezbollah, or the Muslim ummah generally, to try to pretend that they are horrified by the deaths of their fellow Muslims, when we all know that they do everything in their power to COURT these deaths - to put their worthless (to them) women and children purposelessly in the line of fire, merely in order to play on the sentiments of infidels worldwide, meaning Christians, Buddhists, Hindus etc - who would NEVER purposely put their family, friends and compatriots in the line of fire, ESPECIALLY in support of the manifestly evil goal of committing genocide against another people.

ALL infidels MUST remain strong and unmoved in the face of these universal, truly abhorent, Muslim tactics that we find horrifying, but that we are seemingly powerless to change or to reason with presently. Our only choice at present is to resist the emotionally manipulative appeal to buy into these reprehensible and dishonorable tactics, and to keep pressing the western "press" to give an honest account of the real intentions behind those who manipulate the press in this way, while actually not giving a damn about the worth of the INDIVIDUAL lives affected by these tactics (which as we all know here, are designed first and foremost and ALWAYS, to promote the aims of the Islamic Jihad, i.e. the collectivist goals of the Muslim ummah).

Thanks gallopinggranny and limes-

That is more or less what I was wondering. You never know who you are watching on TV at a given moment and what makes them a so called "expert" on the subject. "Beirut Bob" seems sincerely interested in the removal of Hezbollah and only opposed to the degree of action taken by Israel. Not Israel's need to defend itself.

-XRDC

Gramfan,

Now that's the way to cancel a subscription! It's never a bad idea to monitor such rags, but once the deluge piles too high....Whew. Your posts are quite enjoyable. Nice to have a "down-under" info pipeline, no worries,mate!

Caroline
Great post!! You have expressed so well exactly how it is. Well done, my friend!

These proxy players (hamas and hezbollah) are fighting a proxy war on The US by hitting Israel.
They know the rest of the world will not stand up and be counted here. Sad but true.

I just wish there was a good end in sight. I can't see it really.It is depressing.

No part of the world is safe, if we don't do something NOW. I too am taking the above suggestions and writing to President Bush.
All of the above postings have gotten me going.

We need G.C. Scott

Thanks for that:)
I think there are a few Aussies here - I am thankfully, not alone!

I have mentioned it before here, but in case anyone has missed out one of the best journo's we have is Andrew Bolt.
He has a forum/blog and there are often US posters voicing opinions there.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/0,,,00.html

Hell'sbullies have made a threat to bomb Tel Aviv with 500 bombs and give one hour to evacuate.

One way to handle this:

Israel announce to the world with direct messages to Syria and Iran that if Tel Aviv is bombed Damascus and Tehran will burn and their leaders targetted for elimination.

Prior to this announcement Israel should get US support to handle Iran when it hops it. US can take this opportunity to take out Iran's nuke sites and neutralise the mullahs.

It seems to me that Israel will bomb away until Condy arrives and says: "OK - time's up!" but I wonder how effectual all this military activity is. Hezbollah would have been remarkably remiss if they hadn't spent the last six years honeycombing the border area with tunnels and subterranean bunkers. The fact that the rockets keep on coming seems to confirm my belief that air campaigns alone against an enemy who has expected and prepared for them over a long period simply don't work.

Wally;

Some thoughts from the other side...

Israel has learned its lessons about long term occupations. I don't think that that's what Olmert has in mind.

I see a violent purge, followed by a 'truce' which involves the UN.

Imagine this model:

The UN sends the standard group of 'peacekeepers', but this time they are 'assisted' by local military forces. UN personnel, unencumbered by that pesky accountability, could man the posts. Special forces units would be empowered to rove and act when the UN was unable or unwilling.

Take a page out of the enemy's playbook. Co-located 'nice peacekeepers' with lethal forces. Attacks on the UN forces be met with bad press. Squad-level operators would be able to handle anything our Arab and Persian friends had to offer.

This model might not be applicable after the dust settles in the current conflict but may offer a solution for containing 'Fast Jihad'.

This is why Israel must go all the way and eradicate "The party of (the false) god."

Security Plan for a Permanent Israel

Israel must formulate a new security policy, as follows:

1) Carve a DMZ strip across all of southern Lebanon from the sea to the northeastern Israeli Horn sitting just east of the Heights. The new DMZ would require either a pacified or entirely depopulated Tyre.

2) Permanently occupy most of Gaza, moving the Moslem population to southwestern corner of the area, leaving them to live within a restricted arc stretching from Nezer Hazani down through Rafah. Also, militarize the beaches behind the resettled Moslems with fortified positions of IDF Navy and Marines to interdict all sea traffic there. This would be the 3-sided Gaza DMZ.

3) Build fences sealing all these new frontiers.

4) Do NOT put Jewish settlements into either the South Leb DMZ or the Gaza DMZ; make these places no-man lands strictly reserved for permanent IDF military operations.

By not emplacing Jewish settlements into these new DMZs, the Jews would avert the public relations and political disasters they suffered, and still suffer, from the influx of Jewish emigrants from such post-1989 Soviet lands as western Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and the like. The demonstrated purpose of the DMZs would be striclty military.

5) Super-fortify both DMZs with forward observation capabilities, war-footing patrol operations, and a tactical nuclear missile response infrastructure.

6) If necessary, reclaim the northeastern zone of the Siani that the Jews so stupidly conceded to a defeated Egypt years ago, so as to extend the Gaza DMZ south and east to further secure this new, more secure, and more permanent state of Israel.

All of this would be expensive; the United States could subsidize this new security regimen by diverting money now flowing to Egypt, the PA, and other impoverished Moslem nations, every dollar of which is not only entirely wasted but is dangerously counterproductive to direct American political and security interests.

Alarmed;

So am I. The realities of evacuating Tire though are difficult. There's a long history.

Containment is the answer. One mechanism is suggested (above).

The spooky next stage is who will feel these people, who have over-bred in the midst of the desert and an artificial cash influx. 1.2 billion people who can't provide for themselves.

We all have to eat.

All Indian s approve the actionsof Israel...
The articel written by that times of Idnia columnist is just like any Dhimmi in India"who did'nt hesitate to call The Isrealis are murdering Lebanon" but the fact of the matter is Hindus are not influenced by that...
yesterday a debate awas aired in CNN IBN one of the DHIMMI Media asking the indian public"Should India follow deal with terror the Israel Way" much to the dismay of the congress, the so called liberals and the Mulsims and much to the glee of many of us 94% of the Indian who participated in teh SMS poll opined that Indian should follow the Isreal way.
this also approves of the action being taken by Isreal at present and wish the israelis best of luck....

Two beers...

'Feed' not 'Feel' don't want to get Muhammed alarmed.

All Indian s approve the actionsof Israel...
The articel written by that times of Idnia columnist is just like any Dhimmi in India"who did'nt hesitate to call The Isrealis are murdering Lebanon" but the fact of the matter is Hindus are not influenced by that...
yesterday a debate awas aired in CNN IBN one of the DHIMMI Media asking the indian public"Should India follow deal with terror the Israel Way" much to the dismay of the congress, the so called liberals and the Mulsims and much to the glee of many of us 94% of the Indian who participated in teh SMS poll opined that Indian should follow the Isreal way.
this also approves of the action being taken by Isreal at present and wish the israelis best of luck....

On the TV last night Ziggy and Henry talked of a defeated Hizbullah resulting in a diverse and democratic Lebanon. That's all I needed to here from these world-renowned experts.

It's DMZ time.

610 * 623 * 732* 1066* 1215 * 1453 * 1492 * 1683 * 1928 * 1938 * 1948 * 1996 * 2001

Depopulating Tyre will be tough, you're right on that. But so will be expulsing 1 million Israeli Moslems. Gonna get messy; already is messy. Luckily, with American control over NATO forces, the Europeans will not be able to mount a military intercession into the Eastern Med on behalf of the global jihad war declared in 1996.

Anyone know the story with Fox Military analyst, Bob Bevelacqua? He just espressed (on O'reilly) that Israel should "tone it down" and that Mossad could've taken out Hezbollah without hurting other Lebanese. This seems to describe his "take" on Israel's approach: http://www.captainsjournal.com/2006/07/16/israel-hesitating-on-hezbollah/ "He was livid over Israel’s targeting of Lebanese infrastructure, essentially saying that it will effect changes that are directly contrary to their aim." I must admit that hearing of the Lebanese army barracks being hit seems contrary to the request to dispatch the Lebanese forces to the border. -XRDC

I just saw that clip on O'Reilly. Like you, I found it disappointing, but his concluding statement - "If they were to hit Teheran or Damascus, I wouldn't ahve any problems with it" - was re-assuring. I don't fault that school of opposition to this operation completely.

Varma.
Hello!

Thanks for your post. I am sure we are all glad to hear the version of events from your side of the world.
I believe India has a lot in common with Israel: age old cultures nothwithstanding. The first 2 democracies who had women Prime Ministers.

I hope you will continue to let us know what is going on in your area.

Take care:)

Dear All, here's an update from my friend in central Israel. Directly or indirectly, she describes how this Submission eats abcesses into the souls of the most innocuous little girls.

My older girl asks me questions that I wish she didn't at her age, at all ages actually but it is more painful when it is your child and in this age. She asks me what will happened to her if she fells asleep and a bomb will fall in her room. She told me that when she is going out of the house to the kindergarten she prays quietly that if a bomb "sees" her from above it will "think" that she is an ant and leave her be.

I remember when I was her age I was dreaming of a group of Arabs running after me with huge knives and I couldn't run fast enough I tried to shout with no voice coming out until they reach me and stab me all of them, even now when I think of it I can feel their knives. I used to wake up from this nightmare and couldn't tell anyone about it worrying that if I say it then it will happened. I hope my girls don't have it too.

Thanks for your support and Thanks for the pray.

She never told anyone about her nightmares. She is a beautiful person with a sharp mind, a good heart and with artistic talent. She can live a good life in spite of what's happened around her for all but the three years she came to work in the United States.

Submission damages people. It will continue to do so, generation after generation, both in the dar al Islam and dar al Harb. Submission is a plague on both houses. It must be eradicated like smallpox or controlled like malaria before it's too late.

Didn't saddam have WMD? Didn't they go to Syria? Has the world forgotten why a war is being fought? Muslims want to destroy what they could never have through their own phony religious oppression.They'll never have freedom under a false god, so their only goal is to take away ours. With the weapons stashed, they think they can. AS soon as they have the world court sympathizing with the civilians suffering, they'll feel confident in unleashing the WMD. We must expose their religion as the lie that it is before we can expect them to change their goal of world domination at all cost. The blood is flowing, and they don't care...about yours, or their own childrens. REMEMBER THAT. That's where a false god will lead you.