Lashkar-e-Toiba -- "the Army of the Pure" -- continues to operate with impunity and to prepare to strike high-value targets. From AP:
NEW DELHI - India’s defense minister on Monday repeated a warning that Islamic militants based in Pakistan were targeting Indian nuclear, military and religious sites, a news agency reported.
Defense Minister Pranab Mukherjee told lawmakers that militants from Lashkar-e-Tayabba - a group believed to have links to al-Qaida - “are planning to carry out some strikes on critical infrastructure items, military targets and religious places,” according to the Press Trust of India.
There’s also intelligence reports indicating Lashkar is planning to attack nuclear installations in India, Mukherjee said.
His comments came three days after National Security Adviser M.K. Narayanan issued a similar warning, which was dismissed by Islamabad as an Indian attempt to defame Pakistan.
Lashkar is among the groups suspected of taking part in a string of bombings in India, including the July 11 Bombay train bombings, which killed 207 people.
Mukherjee told Parliament the government was taking the latest threats seriously.
“Necessary steps are being taken to protect our vital installations and other high-profile targets,” he said, without elaborating.
Banned in Pakistan and but reportedly still operating there openly, Lashkar is among the more than a dozen Islamic rebel groups fighting Indian rule in Kashmir. The rebels want the territory to be independent or merged with Pakistan, and New Delhi has long accused Islamabad of providing material aid and training to the insurgents. Pakistan says it only gives them diplomatic and moral support.
Interesting. I understand before the Bombay bombings India has intel something big was going to happen and how, but there was so much chatter, so many potential targets, cells. What a mess. You've got 13 % of the population as a 'pool' to suspect. This is larger. India appears to be proactively warning Pakistan about a nuclear installation attack. This would or could be the effective of a dirty bomb. This would require someone with inside information(Indian Muslim(s) working in the nuclear field, supplemented by Pakistani know-how and cash(they have both). It's not just the quality of Indian intel here. It may be great, but finding out plots is kind of like plugging little holes in a wall. It can be done; it isn't easy; and you only have to be wrong 'once.'
Naseem?
attacks are gunna start all over the world,from now till Augest 22.
'August
Dear Jarardana Agarwal,
Do some more reading. Times of India, regularly. India Today, weekly. For starters, this will do. You are so far removed from reality, that I won't bother to take your post apart, point by point. Do some reading for around a year before posting.
Here's an
excellent analysis from SAAG
In India, the Left-wingers and the Islamists have joined forces to cripple the Indian state, and bow it into Dhimmism.
This is why India has been steadily losing ground to both forces. It's like a tag-team match, with both of these crooked groups ganging up to oppose common-sense.
Leftists: "let's fight the Class Enemy!"
Islamists: "let's fight the Infidels!"
Together: "let's fight the Infidel Class Enemy!"
I forgot to add the commercial jingle:
"Two great tastes in one! Reeeeeeeeeses Peeeeanut Butterrrrrrr Cuppppppps!"
`Why is Bill Gates spending 200million on India and its people, whats up with that?
Rasheed, since when is Hezbollah a liberal Arab state? Sorry, but you can't be sitting with Nasrallah in your tearoom, and proclaiming your liberalism. If this is your idea of liberalism, then your idea of common sense also leaves much to be desired.
Hezbollah is incompatible with the idea of a liberal Arab state. Just ask those Lebanese whom Hezbollah trains its guns upon. Oh, they won't say anything critical with the gunmen around. That's why the so-called "political party" keeps its guns handy. Provoking a war with Israel is also a convenient pretext. Hezbollah needs war to keep from losing the peace.
to bad that liberal state is to wimpy to control its own country,to bad that liberal country bends over and asks for more,please,when a "polital pary" starts a war,to bad that liberal country's men stand behind woman and children when they fight...cry me a fricken river,rasheed
Lebanon is about as liberal as Mel Gibson. It's New-Age Liberalism, much evolved since the time of classical old-fashioned liberalism.
OT, but I barfed up my sammich watching Ollie North on Faux News today.
I couldn't believe my ears when He rationalized the Shi'a Theocracy of Iraq, despite the fact that Colmes mentioned the "never before discussed fact", (at least by conservative hosts and pundits) that this democracy we gave Iraq at great cost, was, per their constitution (Article 2) an Islamic theocracy. Not only did Ollie North rationalize that, but he also rationalized and excused the antisemitic, antiAmerican pronouncements of Prime Minister al Maliki, the President and the Iraqi parliament.
One thing about conservatives they would rather burn the ship down around them, than admit they are wrong..hmmm Islam is conservative isn't it? very much so.
I'm really sorry to be off-topic however for you lawyers out there, and others who are interested in the legal aspects of IDF military operations in Southern Lebanon, this is a really good piece which focuses on the principle of proportionality in international armed conflict law. Many of ISrael's critics have argued that its actions were disproportinate to Hizbollah's incursion. But this provides some real clarity
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=1&cid=1153292036508&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Cheers
Sanman
Looks like even the Left can't get everything they want.
India can't afford to snap Israel ties
Banned in Pakistan and but reportedly still operating there openly
Funny, that seems to happen alot in Islamic countries...
The woefully asinine Indian government comes up with routine Pavlovian bluster rapping Israel but it is so out of touch with reality!It is not just weaponry.In the field of agriculture too, a lot of professors routinely travel to Israel to gather expertise and refurbish their knowledge.
Infidel Pride,
I sure hope she replaces Russia and becomes the largest supplier. I can't believe the politicians. They behave like this with a 13% muslim population. Can you imagine what these nutjobs will do with a 25% one ? Nightmare.
"Pakistan says it only gives them diplomatic and moral support."
What EXACTLY does this phrase mean?
Bad Muslim Customers
I just had a really bad experience today at a Muslim store near my home. While waiting in line to pay for the bananas I bought, two men, one after the other, stepped in line in front of me and paid for their items first. The store owner didn't say anything. In addition, the second customer put his finger on the scale while the owner was weighing my bananas to increase the amount I had to pay! The men were Pakistanis and Muslim and were most likely fake refugees allowed into Canada by Canada's corrupt immigration system which favors dishonest asylum seekers.
Are all Muslims like this, or was this just a bad experience?
David
Toronto, Canada
David,
Good manners/values/virtues and muslims (yes,all of them)are incompatible.
David
You poor thing having to be subjected to thos dark peoples! You need to be careful to avoid being racist. How do you know they were Muslim? Because of the colour of their skin? Of course, they must be refugees, and illegals. Sounds like you should sign up for a National Front membership.
Its one thing to criticise Islam, but you are critcising people you know nothing about, based on your perceptions.
And so what if they were Muslim? I highly doubt they were relying on usul al fiqh to determine their course of rudeness. All people can be rude and have bad manners. Mere rudeness does not make one a jihadist. In fact most Islamists and Jihadists are the friendliest people around. In Western countries they put on a happy face, and dod whatever they can to convince that Islam is a religion of peace.
I think you are a bigot my friend. Again, this is much different than (needed) critcism of Islam. Give me a fuck*n break pal. Whoops, that was rude. And I am Muslim. I gues Cows and Crows or whatever his name is, is right.
Cheers
Arjun
I hope so too. I also hope that India's External Affairs Ministry gets driven by the Defense Ministry, so that India's security concerns trump its suck-up-to-Gulf-money requirement. While that might have been substantial at one time, it's a drop in the bucket in today's economy. Also, it puts India in greater peril than it ever did before - not that it was ever justified. All Indian Infidels should be discouraged from travelling to and working in the Gulf states.
I also hope India replaces France with Israel for all their military transactions. Let the French concentrate their sales to the ummah, be it the Arabs (although Iraq is gone). The French are doing what Hugh advocates the Infidels do - arming both sides. Let them get locked in a French kiss with Pakistan - Algeria is obviously not enough.
Crows&Cows
You are absolutely right. Essentially, this is the Left Front - that bunch of trecherous losers - indulging in their back seat driving. Only problem - Israel has been a strategic supplier to India and has been discovered as the most reliable supplier; not only that, they won't be supplying our enemies. The Left took the side of the Brits during the Quit India movement, and I'll wager that they'll surrepticiously side with Pakistan against India, just as they sided with China in 1962. India should consider banning them just like it's banned SIMI, PWG, Naxalites, et al. It may not happen with this regime, which depends on them, but it should happen the next time the BJP comes to power.
I think David experienced the low-level hostility, intimidation, and aggression that zealous Muslims are now trying in open societies like Canada and the U.S., Haidon. The shock troops are the bagged women with their dull eyes and fearful expressions, cringing and scuttling even when their lord and master isn't present. If he is, he is scowling angrily at every Western woman he sees, often coming into her personal space in a strutting, threatening manner. Meanwhile, their imams push for exceptions to noise regulations so the howling of the azan can assault peaceful neighborhoods five times a day; their community leaders write furious letters demanding restrictions on the First Amendment so their long-dead prophet is not insulted; and their sons, well-educated in America, decide to murder infidels by gun and motor vehicle to keep to the tenets of the Koran.
Haidon is being obtuse. Fact is, the many-splendored diversity of the Islamic disease results in both phenomena: the polite and well-mannered taqiyya artist; and the belligerently impatient and unstable type of Muslim -- the pathologies of both are usually due to the atmospherics of Islam.
Assalamau-Laikum all,
They say that a leopard never changes it's spots. Never is this a truer statement that applied to hindu or the sunni muslim (I want to distance the Ahmadi from them).
His mental state over a thousand years has not changed. You see over 800 years of "Allah's blessing" over India has made the hindu a little bit suspicious of the muslim.
The hindu's natural reaction is to run as fast as his little legs will carry him to hide behind a tree or a rock. ...BUT that is exactly where the Koran has asked the the sunni to "hide and wait" wielding every tool & strategy of war available to him.
So to run is a problem and to hide is a problem. But he should turn around and face the sunni...(only the sikh has done this).
Can you not see the balance here, the sunni should natrually dominate and the hindu shall natrually be a subjugate...this is the balance.
I don't like LeT. Like the Amerekie's abuse of fuel pollutants, his abuse of energy to global warming that so upsets the temperature and CO2 emissions balance of the planet....
so too, little groups like LeT too upset the natural balance for Islam to dominate. Given the next 50 years Islam will dominate globlly anyway...why rush into things...Islam means peace and the infedel sleeps...why upset the balance so carefully set forth by Allah's grace.
At partition time the hindu had his golden chance to make ALL the muslims leave...but his natrual timidity after seeing that sparkle of dominance in Jinnah's eyes ...so NATRUALLY he HAD to back down.
I think that this timidity is a green light for LeT and other bastard groups like them...who don't understand the hindus and don't understand the natural order stated within Islam either.
That they are in PaK ....no doubt...that they operate with impunity...no doubt...
Wll anyone do anything about it in PaK....NO...the MMA (a group of imams/politicans) took about 20% of the publc vote last time...they are too powerful...even Mushi will tolerate them.
So with the hindu as he is and with the MMA running things here in PaK...lookout for more sad violence.
My advice....on the next bombing of India's infrastructure....the IAF should bomb their camps in PaK...Mushi sure as hell won't...and then force Mushi to do his job to get rid of LeT...or risk annialiation.
I know peoples like Arjun and IP will bring up the nucleur question...but that's always going to be on the table...well when it's time...it's time.......but does the timid hindu have the gall...LeT thinks not?
Greetings Henry
Yes, I do know what is going on. All I am saying is, that David did not know for a fact that these people were Muslim. Muslims are also people. People are often rude. In my view, these Muslims are not the ones to be concerned with. Be sceptpical about the Muslim who smiles in your face, and is overly polite. But seriously why are we even debating this?
I wonder if half of you people have ever even met Muslims. Most Muslims are good people. I know its a controversial thing to say, and I'm supposed to say that we're all evil, but its not true. Most are good. I'm not saying we dont have a disproportionate amount of baddies as well. We know there is, and we know the sources of Islam cause this disproportionate body to act. Yes, there is something about Islam.
In critcising Islam we cannot target every single person who looks Muslim. This is a Cronulla type mindset.
Crow and Cows. What you just wrote, seems like some sort of implied threat.
Are you implying that Naseem should die or be killed?
Haidon,
I am no paki to come up with fatwas.
Pity,you don't get sarcasm.Naseem with her convoluted gobbledygook is quite a pain. She never upholds what is just and fair but blindly justifies every mayhem in the name of her ideology.
"I wonder if half of you people have ever even met Muslims"---Haidon.
No,I have met and interacted with lots of them.There is something seriously wrong with their mindset.They are absolutely oblivious to their flaws and faults.
It is impossible to have a normal,sane conversation with them.
In critcising Islam we cannot target every single person who looks Muslim. This is a Cronulla type mindset.
Posted by: Haidon at August 1, 2006 05:16 AM
.. Haidon is pushing the same, successful arguement and the supporting mentality, terorrists hide behind. Haidon has no sympathy for the victim, just a shield for the hostile. By his owm admission, he is a part of Umma al-Islamia, whose loyalty lies with, and only with Islam, which has no tolerance for anything unislamic. Add to that, Al-Taquiyya a muslim is not only a national-security threat, but a threat to modern civilization, if one can see it.
Naseem dont confuse moderation with timidity. We have fought you for over a thousand years. My people, the Marathas brought down the Mughal empire against all odds. The only thing that kept Maratha empire from purging Islam from India was the Kshatriya code of ethics. Infact this abidance of the Kashtriya code of honour was the cause of downfall of martial races of India.
Test our patience not to far... lest you forget 1992-93 and Shiv Sena.
What to do? Just this, paint all Muslims with the same brush, because sooner or later, they are going to learn that to be a True Muslim, with all the heavenly rewards accruing thereof, and with the promised possibility of avoiding hell, you must conquer the world and enslave and make subservient all humans who will not bow to the mighty Koran! We can survive only if we paint them with the same brush and separate them from us so that there will be no secret terroristic movements bent on murder and sabotage intermingled among us! There is no other chance for survival for the non-muslim.
Posted by: henry at July 31, 2006 11:20 PM
.... and that brush is Umma Al-Islamia, the only muslim loyalty. Henry has the defence, which, interestingly lies in muslim idology itself. The key is to not forget the UMMA, which muslims will always be loyal to, but dishonest as they are, will NEVER admit!
Point is, we should NEVER forget muslims belong to nothing but UMMA, the brush henry is refering to.
"Pakistan says it only gives them diplomatic and moral support."
What EXACTLY does this phrase mean?
Posted by: freetoBEfree at August 1, 2006 01:39 AM
It means that for the sake of Allah, all our resources are at the disposal of Jihadi terrorists. We just won't admit it, enough to fool Dubya and Condi.
No,I have met and interacted with lots of them.There is something seriously wrong with their mindset.They are absolutely oblivious to their flaws and faults.
It is impossible to have a normal,sane conversation with them.
Posted by: Crows&Cows at August 1, 2006 07:46 AM
Since you don't belong to the UMMA,Crows&Cows, muslims will send you in an Al-Taquiyya spin!
Naseem says "At partition time the hindu had his golden chance to make ALL the muslims leave...but his natrual timidity after seeing that sparkle of dominance in Jinnah's eyes ...so NATRUALLY he HAD to back down."
She's right about the Indian leadership's stupidity in not agreeing to a full exchange. But that was due to their ignorance about Islam. Gandhi, a trusting soul, had been coolly fed the standard "religion of peace" version of Islam by a Taqqiya Meister - the Mevlana Shaukat Ali and he fell for it completely, at a horrendous later cost to India. An irrational and violent cult like Islam was beyond the aetheist Nehru's understanding. The only Indian leader who had pushed unsuccessfully for a population exchange was the well informed but powerless Ambedkar.
But all that talk about Hindu's natural timidity is BS as is that bit about "sparkle of dominance in Jinnah's eyes". She obviously does not know that Jinnah was a descendant of Gujerati Thakkar Brahmins, since she's got carried away with a Sunni Racial Superiority hypothesis.
Hi Haidon,
As an Indian I interact with Muslims all the time. And yes, nearly every one of them displays an intense clandestine hatred of the USA. Oh, that doesn't stop them from applying to immigrate to the USA to leech off it. After all, that's the hypocritical Muslim way -- hate a society while still clamouring for entry to it, in order to enjoy its benefits.
Muslims themselves have yet to make a successful country. Instead they only wish to migrate to the infidel lands to enjoy their success. Look at how much illegal immigration there is by Muslims into India. If India is such an oppressor, why are Muslims so anxious to get in? The answer is that Muslims are pathological liars.
I call this Ummahgration
And the US is a Hotel Nation for these ingrates.
Haidon wrote:
"We know there is, and we know the sources of Islam cause this disproportionate body to act. Yes, there is something about Islam."
You have realized it, but are not very forthright in stating the obvious.
If you (being a Muslim) agree that Islam is a barbaric religion then why are you still paying tributes to this unholy, blood-thirsty codified creed-system ? (I do concur with you that painting all Muslims with the same "baddie" brush is quite unfortunate, but given the scenarios we cannot blame the non-Muslims either for such grossly simplistic perceptions.)
Mohammed bin Kafir Abu Jahal
medlaw:
US Sanctions Indian Firms For Chemical Sales
From the article,
visiting the websites and e-mailing the two firms to ask what they’d exported—Phosphorus oxychloride (POCl3).
Phosphorus oxychloride (US Export Control Classification Number 1C350.c.3) is a chemical weapons precursor. It’s on the least restrictive of the three Chemical Weapons Convention schedules—the one for stuff that may be produced in large commercial quantities for applications not banned under the convention. In other words, this chemical has a lot of innocuous industrial uses—something the framers of the CWC recognized.
Both India and Iran are both parties to the CWC so there’s no obligation under that agreement for the Indian exporter to even obtain an end-use certificate from their Iranian customer, let alone an overarching export prohibition.
aur ek baat, Bharat jab marta hai toh muh se awaaz nahin nikalti, ask fatichars next to us, they'll vouch for it.