Friend and Ally Update: the Saudi King rattles his saber and buys arms, threatens another American ally, and invokes a peace plan that was hollow and deceptive from the start.
"King Fears Full-Scale War," from SkyNews, with thanks to Anon:
Saudi Arabia's king has warned the current crisis between Lebanon, the Palestinians and Israel could spark a full-scale Middle East war.King Abdullah has also pledged $500m to rebuild Lebanon and $250m to help the Palestinians.
"If the peace option fails because of Israeli arrogance, there will be no other option but war," Saudi state television quoted the king as saying in an official statement.
"No one can predict what will happen if things get out of control.
"The Arabs have declared peace as a strategic choice ... and put forward a clear and fair proposal of land for peace and have ignored (Arab) extremist calls opposing the peace proposal... but patience cannot last forever."
The king was referring to an Arab peace initiative, proposed by Saudi Arabia and adopted in a 2002 Arab summit.
The deal offers Israel a comprehensive peace in return for Arab land it seized in a 1967 Middle East war.
LAND FOR PEACE? BAH, Israel has been suckered into that senario more than once. The only thing that was achieved was that the bombers, murderers and rockets were closer to Israel. (Jimmy Carter and his group of cronies virtually forced Israel to give up the Sinai, which Israel captured from Egypt and others after they attacked Israel in a failed attempt to elimate Israel from existence.) Israel gave up the Golan Heights, the Gaza strip, the West Bank. If Israel wanted to be a conqueror they could own most of the Middle East territory.
Once again, Saudia Arabia finances the terrorist Muslim groups. Saudia Arabia states there is no option but war? To them, War is the only option.
Once Again, The USA sits idlely by as Muslim Conquest continues. The likes of Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Saudia Arabia, and others who, despite proven fact that they support the terrorist organization and despite the fact that they continue to receive large amounts of aid and money from the USA for various reasons are never penalized or punished.
The world is involved in a world war. It is a shame and disgrace that so many are blind and refuse to fight.
"If the peace option fails because of Israeli arrogance"
"Israeli arrogance". When all that they are asking is that their soldiers are returned for them to stop the offensive.
Good thing the Saudis have all those shiny new helicopters.
Well, I suppose if we built 'em, we can take 'em out.
Good thing the Saudis have all those shiny new helicopters.
Well, I suppose if we built 'em, we can take 'em out.
"Defensive" instead of "Offensive".
"No one can predict what will happen if things get out of control".
King Abdullah sounds a little nervous.
So he should be.
What goes around come around and that region has been spreading a venomous gift called Islam to the rest of mankind for close to 1400 years.
Karma anyone?
I think Jews really knows who are the Saudi people without any shiny Helicopters ......
They'll stop the war ,, no doubt after this Majesty statement....
The deal offers Israel a comprehensive peace in return for Arab land it seized in a 1967 Middle East war.
In other words: "Give us this land and we’ll settle things for now until Muslims can all come together in order to kill Israel."
That’s the only type of 'comprehensive peace' that the Muslims can comprehend.
A Muslim wouldn’t know peace if it came up and bit him on the butt.
Those wussies couldn't even defend themselves against Iraq in 1991, and I daresay they'd have a tough time against, say, Syria today. Their threat is as good as Bangladesh delivering a military threat to India.
IP,
The day the army is let loose, 1/2 hour is the time they have set for this area.
I wonder if there's a method to the madness of selling Saudi Arabia arms right now. If any US arms provably end up in the hands of Islamic terrorists (or used by SA itself, though that's unlikely) Saudi Arabia's goose is cooked. This recent arms sale may just the the Trojan horse Bush needs to drop them as an ally, without suffering significant fallout from doing so.
No way in a million years will the Saudis actually do any fighting. They will fly around posing, shoot a few rockets from a safe distance, and retire hurt.
Anyway, they wouldn't want Riyadh to be bombed.
Arjun
Which army?
$500 million for rebuilding? Or $500 million for Wahhabi mosques stocked with weapons in Lebanon? And why wait until now to pledge $250 million to his "Palestinian Brothers"? Couldn't they have used the money when Israel froze tax revenue to the PA? I doubt that it's actually aid money.
"The Arabs have declared peace as a strategic choice".
Of course it's strategy. Divide Israel into pieces, then build up strength. Attack and destroy the rest of Israel later. I have to thank jihadwatch for educating me about the Islamic style of warfare by making a false peace. This offer certainly follows this style.
I suppose Bush did not give him enough weapons and cash to hush him up. Oh well, I suppose those nice new american made weapons will be useful to the Saudis......
Real smart folks....real smart...give em weapons so they can give them to the enemies of Israel...
Smooth.
of course this is nothing more then a Saudi royal trying to look like a real warrior...they don't fight beacuse they are too busy in their harems too care about anybody.
"Trojan horse Bush needs to drop them as an ally, without suffering significant fallout from doing so." aynrandgirl
Seeing Bush in action over the last 6 years....
Simple answer is no.
The Saudis would never do anything that rash, but if they don't go through the motions of getting tough with Israel they look bad at home and to other Arab nations. No need to worry Israel, the Saudis like American dough. Plus they have an American army in their nation and more next door. The Saudis are just talk'in it up, just everybody else.
Hey EXSGTBROWN don't insult Jimmy Carter. He was a intelligent and thoughtful president who was stuck in a mess he didn't make. We can discuss issues without insulting one another.
Carter was trying create a lsting peace in the Middle East. If Israel hadn't given up that land there would have been even more full scale wars in the region, which is even worse for the peace process.
The Saudi Proposal, which Clinton shamefully shoved down Israel's throat by incorporating it into the "road map," includes explicit demands for Israel to grant a "right of return" for Palestinian Arabs, and their descendants, who claim to have lived in Mandatory Palestine or the disputed territories. The "right of return" is a euphemism for overrunning Israel with millions of Arabs who will desolve the Jewish state through the Israeli democratic process, replacing it with a new Islamic one.
Of note is that Israel objected to this and numerous other parts of the "road map," and conditioned Israeli acceptance of the "road map" on these exceptions. Clinton cheerfully ignored Israel's exceptions and pushed ahead with the "road map."
Also of note is that the "right of return" as advanced by Arabs, sets no minimum residence period for Arabs who wish to claim Israeli citizenship. An Egyptian might have lived in Jaffa for a week in 1947, and he and his descendants would be able to expel any Israelis who now live in their former homes and move in, with full Israeli citizenship rights.
Intelligent Thoughts wrote:
"Hey EXSGTBROWN don't insult Jimmy Carter. He was a intelligent and thoughtful president who was stuck in a mess he didn't make. We can discuss issues without insulting one another.
Carter was trying create a lsting peace in the Middle East. If Israel hadn't given up that land there would have been even more full scale wars in the region, which is even worse for the peace process."
Jimmy Carter has to be held responsible. Especially in Iran when he failed to back the Shah in '79 with disastrous results. You have to expect to inherit a mess when you become President. You acknowledge the problem and set about cleaning it up properly with integrity and foresight, both of which he lacked. Jimmy is a philanthropist but unsuitable for fighting for American and Israeili security in the ME.
Clinton also made the same mistakes as Carter..."if only we can get the Israelis to surrender peace meal, we can placate the muslims and end this ME nuisance and i can get my peace prize." For Israel, a full scale war is better than these temporary cease fires which is nothing more than a time-out for Islamists to regroup and try and attack again. Maybe it takes 10 years to regroup and attack again but they will be back.
I am not a war monger but i truly hope this escalates into full scale war. Let's face it, we are going to have to fight them at some point. Let's do it now before we we are re-colonized as an Islamic republic (Eurabia and Ameristan) and then we have no voice and no recourse. Fight 'em now and every liberal politically correct idiot will see their true stripes.