Seattle jihad suspect allegedly ambushed girl

More details of Naveed Haq's freelance jihad in Seattle: "Seattle suspect allegedly ambushed girl," from AP, with thanks to SD:

SEATTLE - The man suspected in a fatal shooting rampage hid behind a potted plant in a Jewish charity's foyer and forced his way through a security door by holding a gun to a 13-year-old girl's head, the police chief said Saturday.

Once inside, police say, Naveed Afzal Haq opened fire with two semiautomatic pistols. One woman, Pam Waechter, 58, of Seattle was killed at the scene. Five more women were wounded.

Haq, 30, was ordered held on $50 million bail Saturday pending formal charges of murder and attempted murder.

Haq, a Muslim, told authorities he was angered by the war in Iraq and U.S. military cooperation with Israel.

"He pointedly blamed the Jewish people for all of these problems," Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske said at a news conference Saturday.

According to a statement of probable cause, Haq told a 911 dispatcher: "These are Jews and I'm tired of getting pushed around and our people getting pushed around by the situation in the Middle East."

Muhammad Ullah, a close family friend and a senior member of a mosque founded in part by Haq's father, described Haq as a quiet loner with few friends.

In a statement, the Islamic Center of the Tri-Cities offered condolences to the shooting victims and said "we disassociate this act from our Islamic teachings and beliefs."

Great. What are you doing to teach your people not to adopt such attitudes toward Jews and modes of response to grievances?

Seattle police said Haq picked up the two handguns and spare ammunition just days earlier, and appeared to have targeted the federation after a cursory Internet search for Jewish organizations....

When Haq got on the phone with 911 operators, he identified himself by name and said, "This is a hostage situation and I want these Jews to get out," according to a statement of probable cause.

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The Religion of Peace strikes again on US soil.

Typical, muslim "warrior" coward.

Takes a 13 year old girl hostage and on entry shoots at 6 defenceless women.

What pride this man must have.

This valiant Shahid did have a smidgen of conscience since he didn't kill the 13 year old girl outright. She is a prime Muslim target since she can bear non Muslim children. If Jihadist Islam isn't into demographic warfare, no one is. What the Muslims of Europe like to do is marry the infidel woman and make her into a Muslim baby factory. This has gone on since Muhammad's time. Good instance being when he beheaded all the men and teenage boys of the Jewish tribe (Banu Qurayza- http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=5195 ) he made war against. Then took the tribal leader's wife as his concubine and other woman/girls were booty to be distributed to his Muslim army to use as sex machines and to impregnate to make more Muslim babies to join Muhammad's army

This courageous Shahid was merely emulating the life of his phony baloney prophet. He did nothing Muhammad didn't do

From the internet:
Can a six year old girl and a 57 year old man find true love and real romance in the Arabian desert?

Follow this tale of betrayal, murder, rape, and mayhem as it spreads from the 7th century caravan stop at the oasis of Mecca to the wilds of Medina where the outcast Mohammed, fleeing the wrath of his family and tribe, gathers up a nephew and begins the long and perilous journey to fame and prophet, finding along the way the love of his life, the six year old Aisha.
http://nodhimmitude.blogspot.com/2006/01/mohammed-child-molestor-or-perfect-man.html

"we disassociate this act from our Islamic teachings and beliefs."
-- from the article above quoting a local Muslim leader (echoed, no doubt, by Muslim spokesmen across the country)

Really? From Qur'an 9.29? 9.5? From all the Jihad-verses, more than a hundred, that clearly tell Believers to kill Infidels? What about the hundreds and hundreds of Hadith, with the same message? What of the history of Muhammad, and the list of what he did to the Jewish tribes of Medina, the Jewish farmers of Khaybar (Khaybar being the name of Iran's new missile)? How long will it be before official Jewish organizations stop the nonsense with "Muslim-Jewish Dialogues" and "reaching out" for some "interfaith" harmony that does not and can not exist, though of course Muslims will, still unsure of their position, still needing to shore up that position with this "three abrahamic faiths" stuff. Who in his right mind, having read the Qur'an with comprehension (in English, as in French, its ferocity is less obvious -- but still apparent), or the more comprehensible Hadith, or -- still more comprehensible and less subject to deliberate distortion by Muslim apologists -- the Sira, the biography of Muhammad, that Perfect Man, uswa hasana, al-insan al-kamil, could conceivably believe that Islam can be "dissociated" from the murder and attempted murder of one disgruntled Haq, no doubt expressing, as Taheri-reza, as that Egyptian co-pilot whose personal and professional life was a mess, or all those others, supposedly "crazy," who in the United States, in Egypt, in Jordan, or for that matter in the southern Sudan, in Nigeria, in India and Bangladesh and Kashmir, are eager to kill, and have killed, with great enthusiasm, Christians and Hindus.

Let's see if we can find a guide to Infidel-hatred, or more specifically, to the inculcated hatred of Jews which is a subset of that general Infidel-hatred. Some 30 years ago, the Sheik al-Azhar, Tantawi (not yet having reached that eminence) compiled a 700-page book, essentially a compilation of all the Qur'anic passages, and Hadith, and incidents in Muhammad's life, that showed the fierce hatred of Jews that Islam teaches, that Islam -- if the adherent is paying attention and trying to keep being a Muslim without really knowing what Islam is all about --naturally inculcates. It may be some consolation, for Jews, that Islam teaches hatred of all Infidels. But were all these Jewish organizations whistling in the dark for so long and "reaching out" to their "Muslim brothers" to have even a small amount of those 700 pages translated and distributed, they would forever lose their suicidal innocence. And the same goes for those still in Israel who, no matter what happens, will still go back to the idea of giving up more territory as the way to somehow reach an accommodation with what cannot be accommodated, what must only be constrained, held in check, by the demonstration, so clear as to never be doubted, of overwhelmingly greater force. Darura -- necessity -- is the only doctrine that Muslim rulers, who may be more aware of how they, and their regimes, will suffer if they go to war -- can invoke to explain their failure to join in a collective gang-up. The more powerful Israel appears -- and it will not appear powerful if it further shrinks in size by giving up one dunam more of territory -- the less likely an all-out war will occur. Already the supposed ferocity (it's nonsense, of course - the Israelis have been scrupulous in trying to minimize civilian casualties, as all intelligent people know) of Israel's attacks on Hezbollah have had a good effect, not a bad one, on the calculations of many in Jordan and Egypt and even Saudi Arabia and the sheiklets. Who wants to see all those palaces, all those skyscrapers in Dubai and elsewhere, paid for with OPEC revenues that, out of environmental if not geopolitical common sense, may sooner rather than later have to be diminished, destroyed by a "ferocious" Israel?

But let's go back to the remark that prompted these remarks: "we dissociate this act from our Islamic teachings and beliefs."

Oh, do you?

We don't. We find them completely consonant with those "Islamic teachings and beliefs." We find them in the same spirit as so much of the Qur'an, so many of the Hadith (in the best, most authoritatie, collections of Bukhari and Muslim), so many of the acts of Muhammad as recorded in the Muslim versions, the accepted versions, of his biography. We find that the history of Islamic Jihad-conquest, and the subsequent subjugation of all non-Muslims, to provide further evidence, if such were needed, of the attitudes and atmpospherics of Islam, of its "teachings and beliefs," that support rather than contradict the behavior of such Muslims as Mr. Haq. We find his behavior, whether he was "crazy" or not, in locating the source of all his woes, the source of the world's villainy, in Infidels, or in his case in Jews, to be "completely consonant" with that 1350-year history of "Islamic teachings and beliefs."

And there is one other thing that we find "completely consonant with Islamic teachings and beliefs." And that is the exercise in taqiyya of all those Muslim spokesmen who would have us, Americans, or other Infidels in other countries, believe their nonsense, as they engage in the religiously-sanctioned dissimulation -- lying about the faith in order to protect it -- which is exactly what they do when they, in Washington State or in Texas or Pennsylvania or Massachusetts -- attempt to make us believe that such-and-such an act is to be "dissociated" from "Islamic teachings and beliefs." Dissociate away. Practice taqiyya and kitman all you want. It isn't working in quite the same way as it did just after 9/11/2001, with all those imams taking part in those touching "candlelight vigils" and "interfaith ceremonies" -- not when so many of those imams and others involved were discovered to have said before, and to say later, to Muslim audiences, quite different things, and some even to have gone further than mere words in the expression of their hatred of Infidels.

Infidels everywhere are now keenly interested in how Muslims in other Infidel countries are behaving. We are watching. What do Muslims in this country think will be the reaction here, if the islamization of Western Europe continues apace, and Europeans flee here, to tell us, to warn us not to repeat their errors? What do they think will happen to their position in this country?

Haq, a Muslim, told authorities he was angered by the war in Iraq and U.S. military cooperation with Israel.

"He pointedly blamed the Jewish people for all of these problems," Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske said at a news conference Saturday.

According to a statement of probable cause, Haq told a 911 dispatcher: "These are Jews and I'm tired of getting pushed around and our people getting pushed around by the situation in the Middle East."


That effectively ends any attempts by the MSM or by liberals, or future attempts by lawyers, to claim that Haq's actions were caused by mental illness.

Haq gave no sign of acting in a deranged manner. He didn't claim he heard voices or saw visions or was seized by uncontrollable urges. He just said he was pissed off by Iraq, Israel and how "his people" (Muslims) were being "pushed around"--and so he decided to do something about it.

That's not the action of an insane person. That's the action of a jihadist.

And to claim that he can't be considered a "terrorist" because he acted alone is some brand-new political correctness that they just pulled out of their butts. The Unabomber acted alone--and yet he was considered a terrorist.

Muslims are all raised to be terrorists. Some just haven't terrorized yet. Some, it's not their time to act, some aren't fully trained, some aren't out of diapers yet and can't go out by themselves.

I'm glad they posted such a high bond so he won't see the light of day. Does Washington state have the death penalty?

I'm beginning to equate terrorist with "cowardly muslim male" instead of fear.

"In a statement, the Islamic Center of the Tri-Cities offered condolences to the shooting victims and said "we disassociate this act from our Islamic teachings and beliefs."

Really?

Then please answer why do you have in the Koran such verses which not only is a call to Muslims to do jihad but also gives its blessings?

Such verses as : From Koran 9.29 9.5, to name a few examples. Or what about the verse that allows husbands to beat their wives up? The Koran verse 4.34 as a reference.

Please do not try to fool us.

LGF just posted a yahoo story that says the shooter and his dad, along w/many other area muslims worked at the hanford nuclear reservation. What will it take for our government to finally treat islamofascists as dangerous subversives; e.g., (a) deport naturalized citizens who believe sharia should replace the Constitution. Why? Because they have betrayed their citizenship oath. You can't be loyal to the Constitution and at the same time believe Sharia should reign supreme. (b)Cease government communication and cooperation with islamofascist front organizations like CAIR; (c) Prohibit Saudi funding of U.S. mosques. etc. etc.

No doubt al-jazeera will portray him as "a brave muslim warrior" for ambushing and killing an unarmed woman. I mean it takes real courage for a muslim man to go up against an unarmed Jewess.

freewoman:

"Does Washington state have the death penalty?"

No, it doesn't. As I said yesterday, Washington State has some of the most liberal district courts in the country. Somebody called them "Marxist" yesterday. I would change that to "Gramscian," but the essence is the same.
Plus, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, seated in San Francisco, is a conservative's/strict constitunionalist's nightmare. If you remember, they are the court that held recently that a public California school did not do anything wrong in indoctrinating its students in Islamic belief and practice.
Ever imagine that taking place with a two-week course in Judaism or Christianity?? Teaching students what the Exodus meant, and what the 10 commandments were, and the destruction of the Temple, teaching students to go to a make-believe Wailing Wall in Jerusalem and "feel and report" on the experience of thousands of years of pain and estrangement and being pushed around, from one country to another, in a forced migration more painful than that of the typical nomadic Roma/gypsies, for Jews have a way of growing roots where they settle, and a way of understanding and participating in the local cultures, and even if they don't, and stay apart, in enclaves like the Amish's, they don't assault and harm the locals, as the gypsies frequently do, they are content to live "on the margin" and be allowed to do so, for they have an understanding of the mostly secular world out there and its foibles and "sins" that is inherent in a post-Edenic, lapsed state.

Can anyone here imagine a course in a public school teaching the religious foundations of our civilization, complete with reenactments of shephardry and Torah teaching and foods and merchants in the Temple and a manger??
A manger in a public school?? Teaching from the Torah?? Have you lost your mind??

So, a young girl was taken hostage? It all goes to show how brave, honorable, and upright the purveyors of jihad are. May we all live to see the day when a non-Muslim army barbecues its pork dinner in the precinct of the Great Mosque at Mecca, and archaeologists are allowed to poke around in the Kaaba itself.

Ovidiuss Naso, The judge who decided that case in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals deserves to be publicly pelted with rotten eggs and tomatoes,and have dead rats left on his doorstep and in his driveway, if not impeached. And all of the ACLU types who allowed such a decision to be made need to be tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a rail.