Hmmm. Will the Caliph of Gaza declare jihad upon Mullah Omar, the Emir ul-Momineen?
"Fatah leaders meet to discuss Hamas," from the Jerusalem Post, with thanks to Andrew Bostom:
...Meanwhile, a radical Islamic group called Hizb al-Tahrir (Liberation Party) is planning to declare the birth of an Islamic caliphate in the Gaza Strip on Friday. The relatively small party, which is seen as more extreme than Hamas, is said to have increased its popularity following what is perceived as a Hizbullah victory over Israel.On Tuesday, thousands of the party's supporters staged a demonstration in Gaza City to mark the anniversary of the end of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. It was the first demonstration in the Gaza Strip in which demonstrators called for establishing an Islamic caliphate that would rule not only in the PA territories, but the entire world.
Buoyed by the large turnout, the party's leaders are now considering declaring an Islamic caliphate in the Gaza Strip during Friday prayers, sources close to the party said.
FINALLY!
A guy the CIA can "target".
(Just kidding)
Trying to help the CALIPHASCISTS:
Today Gaza, tomorrow the world: DEATH TO THE GREEN HOUSES !
Send a qassam rocket to your neighbor (I know, this is too RELIGIOUS)
Fair, balanced and kidnapped, the muslim way to freedom of the press.
Illiteracy and unemployment by laziness, the muslim way to a beautiful islamic future !
Don't know what to do with your life ? Wrap a bomb belt around your wife and children and the UN will pay you zillions !
How many caliphates can there be?
While the Ottoman Empire at its death bed had few friends, it still had offered its inhabitants many benefits through most of its existence. For Muslims it was considered as a defence against the non-Muslim world. For non-Muslims it offered a better life and more security than Christian states up until the 18th century. For most of its inhabitants it had offered career possibilities. And it offered peace and relative harmony to all its inhabitants despite cultural and ethnic differences.
It would appear the Muslims are celebrating the the end of peace and relative harmony to its residents. It also appears Muslims are celebrating Terrorism and violence. Islam is anti-life and is a death cult.
Muslims continue to be devoid of any resemblance of co-existance with humanity.Muslims continue to strip mankind of any sense of order or peace. Muslims continue to destroy any land they occupy. History shows the Muslims wallow in poverty because of their strict adherence to the evil text, the Qur'an.
Each new leader is more violent and volitile than the previous leader.
Islam is a plague that consumes all life. Islam kills more people that all of the diseases known to man.
Islam celebrates death.
Caliphascism! I LOVE it!
Is this a new term, or have I been spending too much time outside this summer?
Perfect.
" demonstrators called for establishing an Islamic caliphate that would rule not only in the PA territories, but the entire world "
and I thought Muslims entirely lacked ambition , apart from the ubiquitous desire to eliminate infidels in their own act of Jihad. Thay all have THAT ambition !
yes, having a single dictator and pope over all the muslims will solve all the problems. Every muslim in every sect in every territory and land will toe the line.
The surprise is that the new Calipha is named Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush al-Crawfordi.
Allahu akbar -
...Meanwhile, a radical Islamic group called Hizb al-Tahrir (Liberation Party) is planning to declare the birth of an Islamic caliphate in the Gaza Strip on Friday.
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Wait--they can't do that! Iran was getting ready to declare the Caliphate as soon as they have nuclear missiles! And the Somali "Islamic Courts" were about to declare the Caliphate as soon as they secure the north of the country!
And wait! "Conservative" Turks were going to declare a new Ottoman Empire! Oman went from an Emirate to a Kingdom--why not a Caliphate?
Next up--warring Caliphates!
But....But...."ISLAM WAS HIJACKED"....This cant be real Islam....Cause we "GOT THEM ON THE RUN"...ISLAM IS THE ENEMY.
All I can think to say is:
"supercaliphatalisticexpletivatrocious."
-- with apologies to Mary Poppins
Why can't they do something useful like a labor union or a guild or something...
Hizb al-Tahrir is supposed to be more extreme than Hammas, well l dont see a difference. what does this seem to suggest, that perhaps the Western world should accept Hammas, since they would now be considered more moderate? well tell that to the murdered Israeli civilians who have been murdered by Hammas, l dont think they see the difference either. it seems these muslims just have way too much time on their hands.
Excellent! Once the Caliphate is formally declared, it will of course be necessary to move the UN headquarters from infidel New York to Gaza. What a blow that will be to the infidels!
Don't worry, be happy!
Two, three, many Dearborns!
Viva El Presidente Jorge bin Jorge al-Bush!
Islam is a religion of peace!
Allahu akbar!
Meh, Caliph is nothin' big.
I am to be declared 'King of the Hill' tomorrow.
Film at 11.
Wouldn't it be something though, really, if the Palestinians ruled and used all the rest of the muslims of the world for a change instead of the other way around with Palestinians being used as pawns.
Stendec, you just made me spray my morning coffee all over the computer. Thanks alot.
"'supercaliphatalisticexpletivatrocious.'
-- with apologies to Mary Poppins"
-- from a posting above
Mary Poppins has no need for apologies, not even for one apology. She would not take offense. She would be delighted.
Gravenimage, war between Caliphates is nothing new. I am not even a specialist in Islamic history, but I can think of three cases right off the bat. Shi'ism broke away from the main body of Believers when Ali was twice rejected as Caliph and then murdered. Then, in about 750AD, at a very dangerous moment for the survival of Christianity, the Abbasids revolted against the Ummayads, drove the few survivors in Spain, and the Muslim Empire suddenly had two Caliphs - one in Cordoba, and one in Baghdad. If the Arabs had been united at the time, the West might have been destroyed. Charles Martel had just about managed to clear Gaul of raiders, but he died; and the Roman Emperors in Constantinople, who were up to their arses in Arab raiders, had had the brilliant idea to rip to pieces their own remaining support by the fanatical and idiotic support of the heresy of Iconoclasm. As it was, the pressure on Gaul and Bizantium slackened for long enough for Franks and Byzantines to strengthen their position and survive. Then there was the rise of the Ottoman Empire: they only became Caliphs because they disposed of the previous line of Caliphs in the typical Ottoman way.
Given these historical precedents, I think that the nomination of a Caliph would be the best possible thing that could happen. All the other factions would gang up against him, and you would have endless wars between Muslims.
A short historic transition of the caliphs:
caliphate (kăl'ifāt", -fit) [key], the rulership of Islam; caliph. (kăl'if") [key], the spiritual head and temporal ruler of the Islamic state. In principle, Islam is theocratic: when Muhammad died, a caliph [Arab.,=successor] was chosen to rule in his place. The caliph had temporal and spiritual authority but was not permitted prophetic power; this was reserved for Muhammad. The caliph could not, therefore, exercise authority in matters of religious doctrine. The first caliph was Abu Bakr. He was succeeded by Umar, Uthman, and Ali. Sunni Muslims recognize these first four, or Rashidun (the rightly guided), caliphs. Shiites, however, recognize Ali as the first caliph. After Ali's death, Muawiya became caliph and founded the Umayyad dynasty (661–750), chiefly by force of arms. Its capital was Damascus. In 750 the Abbasid family, descended from the Prophet's uncle, led a coalition that defeated (749–50) the Umayyad family. The Abbasid dynasty (749–1258) is sometimes called the caliphate of Baghdad. One Umayyad, Abd ar-Rahman I, escaped the general massacre of his family and fled to Spain; there the emirate of Córdoba was set up in 780. This later became the caliphate of Córdoba, or the Western caliphate, and persisted until 1031. A third competing contemporaneous caliphate was established by the Fatimids in Africa, Syria, and Egypt (909–1171). After the fall of Baghdad to the Mongols under Hulagu Khan in 1258, the Abbasids fled to Egypt. The Ottomans captured Egypt in 1517 and Selim I assumed the title of caliph by questionable right. The Ottoman sultans, however, kept the title until the last sultan, Muhammad VI, was deposed. He was succeeded briefly by a cousin, but in 1924 the caliphate was abolished by Kemal Atatürk. A year later Husayn ibn Ali, king of Arabia, proclaimed himself caliph, but he was forced to abdicate by Ibn Saud. Subsequently, several pan-Islamic congresses attempted to establish a rightful caliph. A number of Islamist political parties and Islamist guerrilla groups have called for the restoration of the caliphate by uniting, either through peaceful political action or through force, Islamic nations in a transnational state.
So, then, Gaza City will be the capital of the world?
CALIFASCHISM!
Priceless!
I wish I had invented it! I wish GWB had some speechwriters who could make him say things like that! But we are all so easy to please, 'Islamo-faschism' did it, it was good enough at the time, until they got him to apologize, or did he?
FREAKS
Better for Infidels the unembarrassed truth-tellers than the sinister and sly tariq-ramadanners. If Infidels insist on not seeing what is staring them in the face, in remaining eyeless in Gaza, then Hizb-ul-Tahrir will spell it out for them. Those sinister but unsly truth-tellers deserve to be described as Guileless in Gaza.
"For there shall rise false christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders;insomuch that if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect" Matthew 24:23,24.
Judge for yourself....
I AGREE the UN should be moved. Gaza would be ok, Saudia Arabia would be ok. The Iranian capitol would be best. Let the UN really see Muslim hospitality. New York is too good for the UN.
That is an incredible idea: Moving the UN to Tehran! It would do a lot, like help the Iranian economy; encourage third world countries; show that the UN is really about everyone, not narrow US or Jewish interests.
My idea is this: Give the UN, say, 3 months to move out. Then precisely on the day of the 3rd month, lock the doors and fumigate the place.
Sending the U.N. to a new home somewhere in the ever so hospitable Middle East is an excellent idea- and the European diplomats could easily do their appeasing in person, what an added bonus for them!
How glorious!
The dawning of a New Islamic Golden Age. And Gaza should be its capitol - a shimmering beacon of hope for all humanity!
Onward Muslem Soldiers, marching into shit.
I believe the rules of Jihad change, once a Khilafa state is declared and a Khalif "elected".
On some of the islamic disussion boards, I have seem some muslims say that they cannot sanction joining the Jihadis, because there is no Khaliph at this moment, but once there is a Kaliph, then the rules change, and formal war can now be sanctioned, meaning the blood of the infidels is now legal to spill, and the wealth is legal to take as booty.
IN Tehran, the UN delegates could view the latest in Muslim womens fashions,eat unusual Islamic food, and enjoy the solitude as no music or tv is allowed. IT would give them more quality time to study the issues. Travel is out of the question as is any kind of socializing. Books are banned and travel is forbidden. THe UN could use this enlightment.
fides wrote :"On some of the islamic disussion boards, I have seem some muslims say that they cannot sanction joining the Jihadis, because there is no Khaliph at this moment, but once there is a Kaliph, then the rules change, and formal war can now be sanctioned, meaning the blood of the infidels is now legal to spill, and the wealth is legal to take as booty."
That's very interesting.
It would not surprise me in the least bit if muslims chose someone of high moral character, like say, bin Laden as their Caliph.
So it would be 1 billion muslims vs. 5 billion of everyone else. Gee, who's gonna win that one? No wait, I already know the answer! Allah will help them win and if they don't win it's all Amrikis fault.
And we patiently put up with these 'people.' Some times there is just no hope in trying to reform the hopeless. Muslims are born losers. Even in death, in suicide death, they are pathetic losers.
I think it is high time we have our own little groups that we can name some clever name, and then start issuing edicts, and threats, and eventually launch some sort of worrisome weapon at some undetermined date in some strategically located place in Islamoworld!!!
We need to stand up and give these guys a real response...
Why stay within the boundarys of a limp UN and Presidential/Legistlative/Judicial system that is not responding to the DIRECT THREATS AGAINST US?
What, you say? Then we'd be just like them? Well, It may appear that way to the uninformed onlooker, however, our intent will be to annihilate all ISLAMIC FACISTS from the face of the earth... but this, of course would be in self defense for all the years of unanswered attacks on the US, Britain, Italy, African Nations, etc... who have been pissing the Islamos off for the past 125 yrs (or more).
eh?
I mean, after all, they stand there in broad daylight and in plain english tell us we will be attacked by them without mercy until we are all dead. And the deed will be done on a date known only to them with a method known only to them.
Shouldn't we do the same--- to speak their language in a way they could understand it, and on their level? Isn't that the ultmate goal of communication?
Since "Hizbullah" is the party of Allah, how can any decent (!) Muslime attach himself to the "Party of Liberation"? Won't Allah get angry? Maybe Her moon kaba will close and there won't be any more hajj. If the hajjis want to throw rocks at the devil they'll have to run over to the new Saudi UN headquarters.
Of course they wouldn't hurl rocks at the UN, being a religion of peace and famous for their hospitality.
So what is there to be upset about? It seems that peace is on the horizon. At last the muslimes will rule themselves in their sublime and holy shari'a rule. Men will have more sex than they could dream of. Little Middle School girls can be betrothed to the new Caliph. The superior arabic culture will no doubt cause an economic bonanza throughout the Middle East - no longer held back by the Western oppressors.
But if things go wrong in Allah-world, (which they can't!), whom would the mob blame? Particularly if they push Israel into the sea.
Well, maybe if there are rival caliph's, Ibn Saud & Co. can still finance the suicide bombers on either side.
Imagine all the fatwahs that will be published! They'll have to treat their Dhimmi's well, or else there would be no one to do any work - and imagine the brain drain!
Good grief! Is there no end to this nightmare?
Love it-more these rabid Islamo Fascists expose themselves the better.Next thing will be-fighting over who is to be Head Honcho Caliph.
If only Infidels would LEARN NOT TO INTERFERE with them slaughtering each other according to tenets of their Death Cult, there would be a lot less Muslims on the Planet.Remember all the Fuss when Infidels went into a Mosque searching for weapons-they were the filthiest of creatures,desecrating holy places etc-but it is PERFECTLY OKAY for Muslims to blow up each other's places of worship to Allah...
If these violent creatures don't want to live in peace in 21st century let them exterminate themselves with 21st century weaponry .Like the Dinosaurs it is time for them to become extinct.
I, Ice Dragon declare myself the new Pope and I thereby declare a new Crusade against Islamism.
Will anyone take me seriously?
I doubt it!
I also doubt anyone will declare the loony Hizb al-Tahrir maniacs the true successors to the Ottoman Emperors!
Norseman
Great idea - moving UN hq to Gaza. In fact, the UN should be merged with the OIC, and all countries that don't make Islam their official religion should be expelled.
Hmm, a Caliphate in Gaza. Kind of like the Kingdom of Flatbush.
No offense to Brooklynites, of course.
I vote we give them a present.
I vote that the present consists of high explosive carried by a few tens of bombers to cause a few million pounds worth of improvements to Gaza!
Why there must never be a caliphate:
"This is one of the chief reasons why radical Muslims want to restore the caliphate and unite the Islamic world under its rule: they want a universally recognized Muslim ruler who, by virtue of his position, has the right to call an offensive jihad"
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/000128.php
It means they don't have to use the 'defensive' pretext anymore. Also, the caliph has to wage jihad at least once a year to spread sharia.
This is what democracy in the middle east gets you. This and Hamas. And Hizbollah. The list will get longer as more islamics get to choose their poison.
Oh, George, if you give the arab the power to choose, which is all that democracy is, he will vote to proclaim islam, spread Sharia, and kill the infidel. Democracy and arabs do not mix.
Silvester -
A Caliphate with a leader who can declare offensive Jihad?
What a mouth-watering target.
"planning to declare the birth of an Islamic caliphate in the Gaza Strip on Friday"
There's that word "birth" again, which generally signals something positive and productive is about to come forth. But it isn't a very fitting word for what these guys have in mind -- which is "ruling the world" through terrorism and violence.
And they expect all the world's Muslims to submit to their choice of Khalif in Gaza?
That would be the blind leading the blind...
Eyeless in Gaza!
As Mary Poppins would explain:
Super-caliphascistic (expi-allah-doshis)
Squire, you ask: "Why can't they do something useful like a labor union or a guild or something..."
You mean, like, uh, WORK?? Labor? Actually "do something" with themselves?
Sadly, no.
They are muslims, and, even worse, they think they are Arabs, so they don't work at all. In fact, most of them are even too lazy to STEAL!! They exist on foreign aid.
A few, however, find satisfying employment as halal butchers. They like to cut throats and see blood flow. These people have to be watched very closely.
texan wrote: "You mean, like, uh, WORK?? Labor? Actually "do something" with themselves?"
My dad has an expression for this,
"They are too busy doing their Salamis and Baloneys 5 times a day to do any work!"
=)
I too wish to declare myself Caliph of Southern Al-California. Look for my official announcement on Fox news. My brand of secular Islam will spread all over until each and every non-secular Moslem is crushed.