Judges in Egypt: Scrap peace deal with Israel

Egypt, home to some of the vilest terrorists, is showing its true colors again. They are choosing sides and they are choosing the wrong one. These Muslims--they never learn.

just a reminder
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BAD move Egypt!

"Judges in Egypt called upon the government to dissolve its peace agreement with Israel, on the grounds that it is inconceivable for Egypt to coexist peaceably with Israel while the IDF operates in Lebanon. The judges expressed support of popular resistance against Israeli advances, which, in their eyes, is the only way to protect the Arab ummah (greater nation)".

I now give you this for your consideration. Keep in mind that this has never happened and was prophesied thousands of years ago. Egypt is going to turn against Israel and they are going to help attack Israel but they will be COMPLETELY destroyed (made desolate).

Here you go:

And I (JEHOVAH GOD) will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries [that are] desolate, and her cities among the cities [that are] laid waste shall be desolate forty years: and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will disperse them through the countries. Ezekiel 29:12

See ya! Wouldn't wanna be ya!

"And I (JEHOVAH GOD) will make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the countries [that are] desolate, and her cities among the cities [that are] laid waste shall be desolate forty years"

I thought the half-life of plutonium and/or uranium 235 was a bit longer than 40 years!!!??

I Agree this is a bad move!

On the topic of Egypt I just read that Israel and Hamas are talking with Egypt as a mediator on the swap of Prisoners! Makes me sick I thought they were not going to let any terrorist prisoners go but the article said it was now just down to numbers ie., how many terrorist are going to be freed for one Israeli soldier!

Slowly but surely Israel will give in and the USA will pressure them to do it faster! Nothing ever works like this!

This does not suprise me because this is the same Egypt that oppresses Coptic Christians, and this was going to be expected.

"in whose eyes the lives of hundreds of Arab children are not worth the wounds of one Israeli child"-article

It's a matter of self respect. As long as these people disrespect themselves and their own children enough to offer them as tools for the evil designs of the leaders,in conjunction with the warlike ideology that is islam,the majority of the world will not accept such cries of disproportionate sympathy. Egypt should just shut up, accept their U.S. paid jizya, and remember what happened in 1967.

Go Israel!

Reclaim the Sinai oil fields...

Egyptian judges urge "scrapping the peace deal"? It was scrapped, by Egypt, more than twenty years ago, just as soon as the third tranche of the Sinai was handed over by those ever-hopeful, ever-trusting, endlessly trusthing Israelis, with all those oil fields, and airfields (including Etzion, the base from which those Israeli planes took off to bomb the Osirak reactor). Save for one brief meeting on the border, and Rabin's funeral, Mubarak has never once visited Israel as he was expected to do, as the Camp David Accords, in committing Egypt, for such great tangible assets, surely assumed he would do.

Nor did Egypt, in denying Israelis the right to participate in film festivals and book festivals, in discouraging Egyptians from visiting Israel, in encouraging antisemitism at every level of the officially-monitored and censored (just try making fun of slick, oily Gamal Mubarak, and see what happens to your paper and to the writer) press, radio, and television.

The Americans in power during the years 1977-1980, during the period of the second great oil price rise (when Carter's fireside chat was no substitute for a nation-wide discussion of the nature of Saudi society, the likely use of OPEC revenues to fund Jihad ("what's Jihad"?), and therefore the need to tax gasoline so as to merely recapture part of the oligolistic rents that otherwise would be taken by the OPEC nations, and the utterly resistible rise of Khomeini (supported by Arafat and the PLO, and assorted Mortimers and Sicks)) and the far-from- inevitable fall of the Shah (whom the Americans did nothing to support, everything to abandon, and Carter even sent a letter later to Khomeini, praising him as a "fellow man of faith"). That was the quality of the leadership in that period 1976-1980, even worse than that during 1973, and the first oil price rise, when Kissinger, still preoccupied with Vietnam, and never one to understand economics and certainly not one who had the faintest notion of what Islam was all about (does he now? perhaps a bit more?), and with the American government receiving its intelligence on Saudi Arabia, the most dangerous of OPEC members in the long run (even if it was the Shah who was originally behind the demands of oil-producing states for a price rise), from the likes of the ambassador (later fired by Kissinger, so outrageous was his behavior) James Akins in Riyadh, and Raymond Close, who was the C.I.A. station chief who resigned in 1977 to go into "business" with the Saudis, and was, for a long time after, and in a sense for a long time before, always "in business" with the Saudis.

In this kind of mess, it has always been comforting for American policymakers to construct a little drama: the drama consists of separating out the "good" Muslim countries, the ones that are our "firm allies" such as Pakistan (still called that in today's New Duranty Times), our "staunch ally" Saudi Arabia, and our "two closest Arab allies, Egypt and Jordan." What is the point to using such misleading language? Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia may, at various times, in very limited ways, have interests that intersect with ours as we then perceive them. Mubarak, for example, would no doubt like the power of Iran curtailed, and so would we. Saudi Arabia wished to support the Afghanis fighting the Soviet army, and so did we. Jordan has tried in the past to limit Syrian ambitions, and so have we. And Jordan, Pakistan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia all have governments that of course wish to suppress the activites of terrorist groups insofar as those terrorist groups attack the ruling elites in Jordan, Pakistan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, respectively -- but have no qualms, none, about attacks on Infidels, and indeed would prefer to redirect, and are perfectly willing to do nothing to discourage and a good deal to encourage, such terrorism as long as it is properly directed at Infidels -- Israel, America, Great Britain, France, India, Hindus or Christians or Jews, but not against Mubarak and his Friends-and-Family Plan, not against King Abdullah and his mediagenic clan, including his uncle and his father's widow, not to mention his own family; Saudi Arabia is happy to support the world-wide Jihad except insofar as it threatens the livelihood, and the lives, of those tens of thousands of princes, princelings, and princelettes who have been robbing Arabia blind since Abdul Aziz consolidated his power early in the last century; Pakistan, of course, is happy to support terrorism directed at Kashmir and India, but Musharraf draws the line, very severely, at any attacks on --- Musharraf.

Egypt is not, was not even under Saint Sadat, and will never be, an ally of the Americans. The meretriciousness of the Egyptian government, its failure to meet a single one of its solemn commitments under the Camp David Accords (though it was quite happy to howl in protest if it sensed any delay by Israel in the agreed-upon timetable for the handover, in three stages, of the entire Sinai). This should be understood, in Washington, where the memory of Saint Sadat, like light from a distant star, keeps arriving long after that star -- such as it was -- has been extinguished. Sadat never was that Prince of Peace he was taken to be, and that Carter and Brzezinski kept telling us he was (compare their browbeating, their viciousness, toward Begin, that simple sentimentalist who was convinced that "they reallly like me" as he gave away everything).

After the transfer of $60 billion by American taxpayers to Egypt, a world center of anti-American propaganda and antisemitism, what has been obtained in return? What do Egyptians think? We know what they think. They rival Jordan in their hatred for Americans and the United States. Why are we supporting them?

Why?

Egyptian judges urge "scrapping the peace deal"? It was scrapped, by Egypt, more than twenty years ago, just as soon as the third tranche of the Sinai was handed over by those ever-hopeful, ever-trusting, endlessly trusthing Israelis, with all those oil fields, and airfields (including Etzion, the base from which those Israeli planes took off to bomb the Osirak reactor). Save for one brief meeting on the border, and Rabin's funeral, Mubarak has never once visited Israel as he was expected to do, as the Camp David Accords, in committing Egypt, for such great tangible assets, surely assumed he would do.

Nor did Egypt, in denying Israelis the right to participate in film festivals and book festivals, in discouraging Egyptians from visiting Israel, in encouraging antisemitism at every level of the officially-monitored and censored (just try making fun of slick, oily Gamal Mubarak, and see what happens to your paper and to the writer) press, radio, and television.

The Americans in power during the years 1977-1980, during the period of the second great oil price rise (when Carter's fireside chat was no substitute for a nation-wide discussion of the nature of Saudi society, the likely use of OPEC revenues to fund Jihad ("what's Jihad"?), and therefore the need to tax gasoline so as to merely recapture part of the oligolistic rents that otherwise would be taken by the OPEC nations, and the utterly resistible rise of Khomeini (supported by Arafat and the PLO, and assorted Mortimers and Sicks)) and the far-from- inevitable fall of the Shah (whom the Americans did nothing to support, everything to abandon, and Carter even sent a letter later to Khomeini, praising him as a "fellow man of faith"). That was the quality of the leadership in that period 1976-1980, even worse than that during 1973, and the first oil price rise, when Kissinger, still preoccupied with Vietnam, and never one to understand economics and certainly not one who had the faintest notion of what Islam was all about (does he now? perhaps a bit more?), and with the American government receiving its intelligence on Saudi Arabia, the most dangerous of OPEC members in the long run (even if it was the Shah who was originally behind the demands of oil-producing states for a price rise), from the likes of the ambassador (later fired by Kissinger, so outrageous was his behavior) James Akins in Riyadh, and Raymond Close, who was the C.I.A. station chief who resigned in 1977 to go into "business" with the Saudis, and was, for a long time after, and in a sense for a long time before, always "in business" with the Saudis.

In this kind of mess, it has always been comforting for American policymakers to construct a little drama: the drama consists of separating out the "good" Muslim countries, the ones that are our "firm allies" such as Pakistan (still called that in today's New Duranty Times), our "staunch ally" Saudi Arabia, and our "two closest Arab allies, Egypt and Jordan." What is the point to using such misleading language? Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia may, at various times, in very limited ways, have interests that intersect with ours as we then perceive them. Mubarak, for example, would no doubt like the power of Iran curtailed, and so would we. Saudi Arabia wished to support the Afghanis fighting the Soviet army, and so did we. Jordan has tried in the past to limit Syrian ambitions, and so have we. And Jordan, Pakistan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia all have governments that of course wish to suppress the activites of terrorist groups insofar as those terrorist groups attack the ruling elites in Jordan, Pakistan, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia, respectively -- but have no qualms, none, about attacks on Infidels, and indeed would prefer to redirect, and are perfectly willing to do nothing to discourage and a good deal to encourage, such terrorism as long as it is properly directed at Infidels -- Israel, America, Great Britain, France, India, Hindus or Christians or Jews, but not against Mubarak and his Friends-and-Family Plan, not against King Abdullah and his mediagenic clan, including his uncle and his father's widow, not to mention his own family; Saudi Arabia is happy to support the world-wide Jihad except insofar as it threatens the livelihood, and the lives, of those tens of thousands of princes, princelings, and princelettes who have been robbing Arabia blind since Abdul Aziz consolidated his power early in the last century; Pakistan, of course, is happy to support terrorism directed at Kashmir and India, but Musharraf draws the line, very severely, at any attacks on --- Musharraf.

Egypt is not, was not even under Saint Sadat, and will never be, an ally of the Americans. The meretriciousness of the Egyptian government, its failure to meet a single one of its solemn commitments under the Camp David Accords (though it was quite happy to howl in protest if it sensed any delay by Israel in the agreed-upon timetable for the handover, in three stages, of the entire Sinai). This should be understood, in Washington, where the memory of Saint Sadat, like light from a distant star, keeps arriving long after that star -- such as it was -- has been extinguished. Sadat never was that Prince of Peace he was taken to be, and that Carter and Brzezinski kept telling us he was (compare their browbeating, their viciousness, toward Begin, that simple sentimentalist who was convinced that "they reallly like me" as he gave away everything).

After the transfer of $60 billion by American taxpayers to Egypt, a world center of anti-American propaganda and antisemitism, what has been obtained in return? What do Egyptians think? We know what they think. They rival Jordan in their hatred for Americans and the United States. Why are we supporting them?

It is long past time to read Egypt the riot act, and then to stop the Jizyah of foreign aid. Don't worry about Egypt "keeping the peace." Egypt has "kept the peace" with Israel for one reason and one reason only: the fear of what the IDF might do. That fear is much greater today, after what the Israelis have done to Hezbollah, and continue to do, then it was a few weeks ago. A salutary lesson. But not enough for the malevolent and greedy rulers, and the ruling elite, of Egypt, nor for the primitive masses in that country. Policy cannot be made on the basis of encounters with Ayman Nour or the less-impressive Said Eddin Ibrahim. Saint Sadat, even if you took at face value Sadat at his most phonily saintly, transparently angling for further Israeli concesssions and for all kinds of American aid, never reflected the real sentiments of most Egyptians then, and certainly the sentiments of most Egyptians today.

And what were those sentiments? They were those of the Ikhwan al-muslimin, the Muslim Brotherhood, that quintupled its representation in Parliament once Mubarak was forced to allow them, in at least a few places, to run and to campaign. In other words, it is not Sadat, though it is in Sadat's memory that all that American money has and is being shelled out to Egypt, who represents "the real Egypt" -- but rather, the Ikhwan, the people who killed Sadat.

Why are the most simple things about the Middle East so impossible for American policymakers to comprehend? How many mistakes must they make, again and again, how much hopefulness, how much denial, before they start studying the texts, the tenets, the attitudes, the atmospherics of Islam, not "extremist" Islam, not "Wahhabi" Islam, not "Sunni" Islam or "Shi'a" Islam -- but Islam. And along with those texts, the entire history of Jihad conquest, and subjugation of non-Muslims by Muslim rulers, over 1350 years, from Spain to East Asia

I endorse these judges. Make the abrogation of this treaty - something already being violated day in and day out - official, so that the Israel's are under no illusions that they have a benign neighbor to their South-West. Also, if they go a step further, let Israel take back Sinai, and this time, annex it, a la Golan Heights. Start taking the oil there, use it for their own transportation needs, export whatever they can and fund their settlements in Judea and Samaria that way.

If Egypt doesn't behave after that, the Suez Canal is next...

Um, just so that we're straight here, Yaweh's magic might have laid waste to Egypt for FORTY years, but when Richard Feynmann's magic hits them... they will be laid waste for 10,000 years.

Let's see Egypt and Iran declare war on Israel (yet again, ho-hum, back in the once-per-decade pattern after taking the 90's off, viz. 1948, 1956, 1967, 1972, 1983)... but I ask you Christians:

Do you want Dumbya to send American troops to Israel's aid? In other words, do you want to pay $10 a gallon for gasoline for four or five years?

OR

Do you want Dumbya to refuse to help Israel and hopefully usher in the End Times?

AND

If America doesn't help Israel, and Israel winds up nuking the HELL out of all those Muslim paradises, and the Rapture doesn't happen, will you then admit that it's all a bunch of fairytales?

Please tell.

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the government of Egypt love money from the US more than they hate Israel. as far as anyone wanting to make fun of the Bible, it has yet to be proven wrong.

'Greater Middle East' plan, via Israeli pride and American hegemony, in whose eyes the lives of hundreds of Arab children are not worth the wounds of one Israeli child."
Islamic clerics have said over and over and over again, " Americans love pepsi, we love death - we love death more than the Jews love life". In Iraq 10's of thousands declare they want to die for islam. I wish these people would make up their minds, do they want to die or do they want to live? If they want to die than yes, the lives of hundreds of Arab children and hundreds of millions of moslems are not worth the wounds of one Israeli child. Israelis have shown they love life and only in life will the human race advance, thoes who want only death means the end of the human race. I would advise all right thinking moslems (if there are any) to start deprogramming them selves from this cult of violence, distruction and death, or they just might get what they want.

as far as anyone wanting to make fun of the Bible, it has yet to be proven wrong. Posted by: ZenaWarriorPrincess

And another voice from the twilight zone.

Give me a break Lulu. Universe created in six days (and two competing versions of the creation at that, as well as two mutually exclusive versions of the genealogy of Jesus and that's for starters)? Christians like you are the mirror image of the moronic muslim. True believers that have abandoned reason and logic and would plunge the world into hell for the sake of their "faith" and being right.

If there was no god to fight over and no religious laws to fight about, what would men fight over other than short term property and land theft? There is no war as bloody and vicious and has done as much damage as those battles for god and ideas, be they YHWH, Jesus, Allah, Das Kapital or Mein Kampf.

And Hugh less we forget it isn't just the Sulzberger rag (NYT) that calls Pakistan our friend and ally, it is the Repugnican National Congress and el Presidente del Estados Unidos.

The Goobs-
As for Bible prophecy,which I believe and we know it also states Damscus will lie in a heap (Is. 17) but we also know that the US is no where to be found in the End Days....hum..

Not to mention Egypt funds al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade

Is NARIZ and THE TEXICAN the same blogger?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm