Supporters of jihad terror marched in Dearborn, Michigan, and one expressed her desire for Islamic martyrdom in Lebanon as preferable to the horrors of living as a Muslim in the United States. From "Until cease-fire, marchers press on in Dearborn," from the Detroit News:
Hayat Taleb has been to four rallies in Dearborn since the war in Lebanon began.She had hopes for a cease-fire but by Tuesday, she had hardened her stance against the widening Israeli ground offensive and what she called the U.S.'s inaction.
"I'd rather die there than live here," said Taleb, 24, a Dearborn mother of two....
Hayat, as far as I know, there is nothing preventing you from leaving the United States.
In West Bloomfield at the Jewish Community Center, more than 500 people turned out for a talk by Lt. Gen. Moshe Ya'alon, a former IDF chief of staff, on the challenges facing Israel.Ya'alon underscored Israel's right to defend itself. "The best defense is a good defense," he said. "Today, Israel is on the frontlines. The war today is not about occupation. The war is about radical Islamists."
Yes, it is one front of the defense against the global jihad.
Don't let the door hit you on the butt! We won't miss you...tataaaa!
She WOULD leave, but she wants that in-state tuition to the University of Michigan for her two little freedom fighters (in case the U of M Jihad Scholarship slots are taken).
Who's stopping you?
Tell her that they can continue their education on line via computer. No requirement to remain in the USA to graduate exists. I will offer to purchase her ticket to Martrydom (one way of course). Good Riddence.
Typical slug. preach hate but refuse to go where there actually is a fight she could engage in. She should call NastyRallah and offer her Muslim services. He could show her how real Muslim women can help when bending over praising Allah.
By all means, leave this foul, unclean cesspool of modernity and take back to Lebanon as many of your friends and family as is humanly possible. Do yourself and the rest of us all a big favor and go. Now.
"I'd rather die there than live here"
As IP notes, of course noone is stopping her from leaving. But her statement almost borders on the delusional in the sense that its implicit premise is that some mysterious "oppressive" force IS in some sense stopping her, which goes to show just how far the "victim" mentality can go, especially when its constantly reinforced by the prevailing socio-political climate.
I hope Debbie Schlussel keeps following this story and asking for an update on Ms Taleb periodically. She could call it the "Hayat Taleb watch" - watching and waiting for the confirmation that Ms Taleb has indeed put her money where her mouth is and returned to Lebanon.
Maybe Hayat will invite a couple million of her fellow arab-americans to go along on the return trip. Lt. Gen. Moshe Ya'alon has it wrong. The war is all about occupation - the occupation by Hizbollah of Lebanon, and the occupation of the West by Muslims such as Hayat. Talk about an occupation force! Judeo-Christians should not be so accommodating to people who adhere to the destructive values taught by Islam.
Maybe Hayat will invite a couple million of her fellow arab-americans to go along on the return trip. Lt. Gen. Moshe Ya'alon has it wrong. The war is all about occupation - the occupation by Hizbollah of Lebanon, and the occupation of the West by Muslims such as Hayat. Talk about an occupation force! Judeo-Christians should not be so accommodating to people who adhere to the destructive values taught by Islam.
Find, deport every single person who is not a citizen, and who supports terrorist groups such as Hezbollah. Those who have been naturalized, while swearing allegiance to the country and, I presume, the Constitution, should be subject to a process -- not a very long drawn-out process-- to strip them of their citizenship. It is a privilege not a right. We do not have to endure those who would murder Infidels, for being Infidels, and who are apparently completely willing to do so with the assurance that there is nothing those Infidels can do about it. The assurance comes from the belief that our own "tolerance" can be used against us, our own system of rights exploited to end that system of rights, and any possibility of resurrecting it. All those who think that way, all those whose idea of rights is the "Islamic Declaration of Rights" and not the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights," need to be kept out of this country or if here, their lives made not easy, but as difficult -- by changes in the laws, by private economic boycotts, that do not need to be announced, that can be the unstated result of private decisions, undertaken only out of the legitimate and sensible desire to not have those who have been trained to hate us to live among us, and to further, in whatever way proves possible, and effective, the Jihad.
This does not have to be tolerated.
The fact that there are any such "rallys" here in the USA should be cause for grave concern. Remember sleeper cells do exist and these people are willing to die. All rally attendees should be immediately rounded up and deported. no questions. just do it.Let them die in their place not ours.
Citizen or not citizen makes no difference. Remember the 10 thousand citizens whom the US picked up from Lebanon recently? I was very disgusted to find these people are citizen in the name only. Most of the time, they make Lebanon their home. They are citizens, only when it's convinient.
Sick, indicriminate, immigration policy.
The idealistic baggage that Bush entered this conflict with has been shredded. The public has had a chance to study Islam and has come to its conclusions.
There is a real chance at immigration reform and legislation to facilitate deportation. Talk to your elected representatives. Even if it doesn’t pass immediately it will be ‘in the can’ when something bad happens and the public demands action.
Hayat is a drain on our resources. There needs to be a mechanism to deport her. I'm betting that there is popular support to do so. If there's not, it will come in months, not years.
Everything can be made more and more difficult. You go to law school, but so few people wish to hire you. And why should they, knowing what they know about Islam? You turn on Al-Jazeera, to receive the truth, and what do you find but hackers have put some unseemly material on it, and even that is unavailable. You have the distinct feeling that people "in the community" are being paid to inform, not only on what is said in mosques, during the khutba, but also on the street. You find that more and more of those Infidels, the same ones who were so easily fooled even after 9/11/2001, are less and less welcoming, less and less tolerant of taqiyya-and-tu-quoque presentations during Mosque Outreach or those "Muslim-Christian" and "Muslim-Jewish Dialogues" with which we are all, by now, so familiar. You find that there are efforts being made to hamper Da'wa, that in the schools those demands for prayer rooms, and other accommodations are not being received with quite the same spirit of innocent trust. A country full of awful Infidels --- yes, you were right, you are right to divide the world between Believers and Infidels, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb.
And so are we.
I hate to correct you, Limes.
You lack credibility or rather incoherent, when you throw the tower on Bush.
Be honest! Bush did not enter this conflict, why can you be honest with youself?
You can be almost right if you leave out Bush on this issue.
Yes, he didn't belief we can't depot; that I agree with you, except entering into this war.
All rally attendees should be immediately rounded up and deported. no questions. just do it.Let them die in their place not ours.
Posted by: exsgtbrown at August 2, 2006 04:40 PM
.. remember, for every 'rally attendee', there are at least 100 who are not attendees, but are equally, if not more dangerous.
Hugh is absolutely right.
I was at the Vandenburg Air Force Base only a few weeks ago. A colonel said there is a new dimension in the current war; that is, the information war.
Our truth against their distortion. Unfortunately, people tend to believe lies because it requires deligence to find truth.
Most people don't want to bother; therefor, there is a great possibility that they would side with the enimy.
Sad, but it's real.
I agree. I'd rather have her die there than live here.
It would be very appropirate and highly commendable that all muslims that do not like what America and Israel are doing in lebanon, iraqi and the rest of the middle east to go to the middle east and support their fellow muslims.
The Muslims could prop up their battered bodies and proclaim "civilian casualties"
brrrrring...
Hello? Muslim Make a wish foundation? Yes, I'd like to make a donation.
lol
Good luck and good riddance! What's this bint gonna do with 72 dark eyed female virgins anyhow?
The likes of Bakri and Hmza have been openly stating that they intend to push the freedom that the West provides to breaking point, then they can state that those freedoms are not genuine.
An excerpt from an interview with Bakri on MEMRI, August 9, 2002, openly states what his goals are in subjecting these safeguards to stress. It is not to seek protection from them, but to destroy them.
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Q: "You are charged with links to organizations towards which Britain is hostile and which it sees as enemies. You preach to your pupils to see the Taliban movement and Osama bin Laden as the group which [according to Muslim tradition] will be saved [on Judgment Day]."
Bakri: "As long as my words do not become actions, they do no harm! Here, the law does not punish you for words, as long as there is no proof you have carried out actions. In such a case you are still on the margins of the law, and they cannot punish you.If they want to punish you, they must present evidence against you, otherwise their laws will be in a state of internal contradiction. Then this will serve Islam, because we will be able to claim that the capitalist camp has failed in the face of the Islamic camp in actualizing the things in which it believes, like freedom of expression."
Q: "That is, you are testing this [Western] regime?"
Bakri: "Yes. We must prove that the man-made law is a fragile law."
Let her grab a burka and go. It's so easy to talk shit while leaving in the comforts and freedoms of America. Let her go live under Sharia' law , let her go live with the Saudi women who can't leave their houses without a note from their husband or brother/father. Let her give up her drivers license because women are not allowed to drive and if she disagree's with any of it she'll find herself in a stadium getting stoned (boulders that is not maryjane). Let her go send her 10 year old son with a strap on bomb...yeah it's easy to talk shit while drinking a Starbucks, wearing your American jeans and voicing your "rights"...
I just wrote to Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO), member, Conresssional Immigration Reform Caucus, expressing grave concerns about immigrants and naturalized citizens, within America, who are willing to 'die for the enemy', citing the example of Hayat Taleb.
Urging JW members to write to as many congressmen / women from the list of members here: http://tancredo.house.gov/irc/members.html
Hayat Taleb needs to go all out muslim, let her go to Saudi or iran, she i am sure can take her kids, and they can learn the muslim way and strap bombs on themselves for the cause. oh poor baby she is suffering soooo much...
Bye!
She probably can't leave because her chicken coward of a muslim male husband is scared of having to fight for hezbo in Lebanon. So she's going to whine and cry and whine and cry all the days of her life.
Well, as my parents used to say, "I'll give you something to cry about".
Actually the whiners should be rounded up and deported...to the moon for all I care. Just get them out of our neighborhoods. If these people are not deported, they need to be fixed and their children fixed so they will not keep bitching. And put them on birth control while we're at it.
Michigan Hizballah supporter: "I'd rather die there than live here"
The woman is mentally ill. Hizballah is a murder machine that is as dangerous, as potentially genocidal as the Muslim mass murderers in Darfur. In fact, Hezbollah would love to do in Israel what their umma brothers are doing to Negro Africans in Darfur.
Israel must absolutely destroy Hezbollah, or they will be back, stronger in the future. No amount of street theater, phony charges of "racism" (Arabs and Persians are Caucasians), or other deception must stop Hezbollah from being totally destroyed.
For Israel, this is a turning point-one way or other. Let the "one way" be the end of Hezbollah.
ssa; I think we agree on this point. We've all learned alot in the last 5 years. My intent was to convey that the learning went all the way to the top ('shredding the ideological baggage'). Hope remains eternal...
Really? And that word would be....?
And here I thought only Allah had the power to stop anything with a word. What's taking him?
("mother of two"....sad.)
Hezbollah awaits your assistance my little antisemite, don't forget to bring your copy of the Elders of Zion, and Mein Kempf, and of course pack your Quran neatly above those books. Oh also bring the little ones of course as they will make great little suicide bombers for your beloved Hezbollah and you certainly would not want to leave them in a country that allows for the freedom of individuals to express their selfs as you have, "God forbid".
What are the odds that she would really go? 1,000 to one probably. Maybe a new reality show could be born where we follow her and her children to Lebanon with video cameras and see how she does when she joins Hezbollah to become a martyr ; CBS are you reading!!!.
Do we see Representative John Conyers marching along in lock step with you in Dearbornistan as he has so many times in the past two years, or is even he going to wake up to what these people are really all about?
In any case little miss Hayat Taleb--please take your non-assimilating, antisemitic American hating ass from my country and please don't look back.
leave...Leave....LEAVE!!! Just freakin' LEAVE already! How dare you and people like yourselves to move into our country and take part in ALL our western culture and modern coveniences and standard of living and then turn and curse us and "shame" us and act all "holier-than-thou" like you stand alone atop the moral hill. SkReW U and all your kind, you insignificant,pusillanimous POS!!!
/have a nice day
I declare, before all the dear people of Bojnourd, that in light of America and England's behavior, it has become clear that they don't have what it takes to participate in international forums. They don't have what it takes to sit in the Security Council, and to have a right of veto. They themselves are guilty and criminal, and they must be placed on trial.
[...]
When I see the behavior of America, England, and their other accomplices in recent days, I get the impression that they are preparing even greater crimes. I warn them: Know that the fire of the wrath of the peoples is about to erupt and overflow. If you do not put an end to your crimes, know that the ocean of the peoples will soon rage. When the peoples begin to move, they will drag everybody to the defendant's bench, and will remove them from the throne of power.
[...]
Today, the Iranian people is the owner of nuclear technology. Those who want to talk with our people should know what people they are talking to. If some believe they can keep talking to the Iranian people in the language of threats and aggressiveness, they should know that they are making a bitter mistake. If they have not realized this by now, they soon will, but then it will be too late. Then they will realize that they are facing a vigilant, proud people.
Guess we know the game. http://www.memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1216
"I'd rather die there than live here," said Taleb, 24, a Dearborn mother of two. "Bush needs to say one word, and everything will stop."
I'm hoping that word is "Fire".
If that bitch gave birth to her 2 kids in the USA, they are little American citizen future jihadists. How scary is that.
". . . the horrors of living as a Muslim in the United States."
I'll take Hayat's horrors any day compared to the horrors of living as a Christian or Jew in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps the stupid muslimess should stay so us true Americans can be reminded of what Islam is all about. This Islamo-plague is infiltrating our culture and weakening the Judeo-Christian values that have made us the "last, best hope for mankind on earth." May Hezbollah rot in hell. . .
What good news!
The jihadis want a cease fire
and we know what that means,
it means they're losing
and are chosing to stop
so they can regroup,
recoup their losses
and restaff their supplies.
The pattern is in their books,
they think it is Khaybar again,
and must play it out
until a bitter end,
I hope the Jews will change
the story and fight and win,
keeping the Promised Land.
This is good news.
The b*tch is as usual arrogant, she actually thinks that we care, that somebody cares, that her words and opinion wound and offend, then again that is typical of ALL muslims, they project, they are easily offended, have an irrational and unjustified sense of pride and ego, and are so easily humiliated, ridiculed and offended that, lacking any real contact with people outside themselves and their own culture, they believe that everyone else is just like them.. and that the world really gives a rats ass what they think and feel.. News flash, pick up the cluephone, this Kaffir certainly doesn't and no mature person in their right mind would care either.
End of Story.
I wish the Prophet Elijah would appear incognito, waltz into Dearborn on a nice day and call down fire from heaven on the likes of Ms. Taleb.
(God forgive me).
Teddy Roosevelt had it right when he said that immigrants should have 5 years to learn English, acculturate themselves, or else go back where they came from.
Too many Amerekaans think that the mosque is just another alternative to the Presbyterian church down the street, or Our Lady of VICTORY, or the local synagogue. I have been to a few of these Mooslim open-house-dialogue events. The women especially traipse around tripping over themselves with big houri eyes and smiles, regaling the unknowing and unsuspecting with the peace of Islam, the tradition of hospitality (they won't stab you in the back when you're in their tent.), "we pray to the same God," and so on.
I consider myself an observant and faithful Christian, and the God of Heaven does not urge us to kill, drink camel-piss, spend out life-savings to go to the wasteland of Araby and dance around a moon-stone, or lie.
I hope and pray that the American people wake up to what's in their midst! It's WAY worse than our fears of communism in days gone by.
I hope she gets her wish. Die well bitch.
Get out! It is really that simple. Go to dar al islam. This is Dar al-Harb , the house of war, get out.
You nailed it Sansantiago. The commies were wusses compared to this enemy. Muslims are using the freedom we take for granted and the insidious nature of Islam to advance their goal of domination over Western civilization. It won't happen in this generation or maybe the next, but by sheer numbers and the use of our "democratic system" they will no doubt conquer the Judeo-Christian world. That is unless they blow it up first. . .
The "send Hayat to Lebanon" (one way ticket, of course) fund is one Muslim charity I would be happy to donate to.
Memo to Hayat Taleb:
There are US government agencies who will PAY for you to leave America for the Middle East--permanently. I urge you to explore this possibility before you spend any more of your precious life in America!
Adios!
ps-Shall I pack your bags for you ??!!!?
I totally agree with her!!!!........She should die here instead of live here!!!!
I'll be happy to pack her bags for her!!!!
EDIT: ......I totally agree with her !!!She should die there instead of living here!!!
Bakri: "Yes. We must prove that the man-made law is a fragile law."(from DP111's post)
Who ever claimed that man-made law wasn’t a fragile law? Of course these are fragile laws that can't survive assault by folks who would arm themselves with sword and gun and even WMD in order to murder every single human being on the planet who disagrees with them, or even those who would use their demographic numbers to vote in tyrannical rulers who would eliminate freedom of speech and conscience, minority rights etc..
But this guy is a lunatic to imagine that just because he and his fellow travelers can do just that (use our civilized laws against us), that this fact has some significance above and beyond proving by ruthlessness that human law is fragile. Because obviously his willingness to pick up a sword or to lie or to manipulate the system in order to decieve the infidel in order to defeat him is equally a man-made phenomenon. It's merely his imagination that his willingness to do so is divine and not merely a manifestation of human evil, and the "will to power", on par with every other human evil action that shares that same goal. (In fact, it's quite probable that he takes his own willingness to be utterly ruthless in this regard as proof, in and of itself, of the rightness of his cause).
All he (and his fellow travelers) will prove by overthrowing our "man-made" laws is that an even crueler and more immoral "man-made" law (one of unparalleled brutality and cruelty) is capable of dominating human life on this planet, merely due to its ruthless willingness to slaughter every other human being on the planet (including even those who would naively welcome him as a human brother).
Well duh! Obviously those who are willing to slaughter their fellow human beings or to use deceit without reservation shall dominate the planet. But the question is, what will Bakri (and his fellow Muslim brethren) have proven by that outcome exactly?
Obviously he would "win" (an imperative that we see all the time, even from many of our casual Muslim posters who feel compelled to state “I win – you lose”) - but the critical point is ...
Win what?? What precisely is it that is "won" by the likes of Bakri in the end? All Muslims should seriously reflect on that question.
Why is she here in the first place?
Why is she here in the first place?
Posted by: Cav Trooper
Colonists.
I remember an old slogan - When in Rome do as the Romans.
I appreciate all America has done for me. My allegiance is to my my family and my country. I have joined the U.S.A.F and did my time serving my country.
If you do not like it here because your religion is not appreciated, then leave. I would rather you die there than live here, believe me. With my luck your funeral cost probably would come out of my wallet anyway.
For once I would like to see love from the Arabs and Muslims to there own families. Once they appreciate there clildren and show love instead of hate - using them as tools for war - then I would respect you, until that happens buzz off and go back to your sandpit.
WildandCrzyGuy,
thank you for your service,protecting me,my familly,and our country.
Muslims are using the freedom we take for granted and the insidious nature of Islam to advance their goal of domination over Western civilization.
muslims are the most sick perverts one can come across. I mean... a religion(?) that lures followers not by a devine virtue, but by carnal lust of virgins, that celebrates festivals by slaughtering an innocent animal, that chops off heads, genetelia and limbs of humab beings, that advocates lies and deception, that has no sense of gratitude or moral, that has an agenda, not of spreading humanity and brotherthood, but of imposition, submission and hostility. Not to mention a coverup with a smoke-screen, to attract, cheat and decieve the innocent and the faithful. Once the faithful is trapped, the door is shut with a punishment of death.
Does this sound like a noble religion or a cult?
our "democratic system" they will no doubt conquer the Judeo-Christian world. That is unless they blow it up first. . .
Posted by: Kreuzueber Halbmond at August 2, 2006 09:17 PM
Those savages will conquer nothing. They will be picking up the pieces of themselves and their inferior, archaic civilization long before they come close to conquering the West.
They will bring immeasurable bloodshed, misery, and destruction upon themselves and Islam will die. Pure evil is unsustainable when it ceases to be a subtle undercurrent and evolves into a driving force. The more these traitors expose their contempt for America and the hideous beast of Islam, the better. Their hubris is their own worst enemy.
"I'd rather die there than live here,"
No tears weeping here. Bye Bye.
Would someone please just by her a plane ticket for the next flight out of here for sunny lebanon.
Rush's comment on Democrat congressman who could not take sides with Hezbollah and Israel seems this Democrat is part of "Dearbonstan". "Dem. Dingle" needs to be replaced next election!
Why is she here in the first place?
Posted by: Cav Trooper
Colonists.
Posted by: Carolyn2 at August 2, 2006 10:41 PM
Carolyn:
Since when has "colonists" become a code name for welfare/social assistance cases?
(Colonials usually bring some assets with them, either wealth to invest or skills.)
In a recent interview, [retired US] General Norman Schwartzkopf was asked if he thought there was room for forgiveness toward Hizbollah.
General Schwartkopf replied, "I believe that forgiving Hizbollah is God's function. The Israelis' job is to arrange the meeting."
Can we take up a collection to buy her a one way ticket to send her there?
"I'd rather die there than live here," said Taleb, 24, a Dearborn mother of two
The 1st amendment loyality test looking better each day! Does she "submit" to the U.S. Constitution? It appears she is unhappy living with all these non-muslims. The trouble is she is not leaving. She is planning on making the non-muslims leave. Michigan is in her mind "Michiganistan". Its now part of the "land of Islam"!
Shalom...
"Shalom"
Or since I am a Hindu, "Namaste"
Oh wait I'm an American first and foremost, "Get the **** outta here"
"Shalom"
Or since I am a Hindu, "Namaste"
Oh wait, I'm an American first and foremost, "Get the **** outta here"
"Shalom"
Or since I am a Hindu, "Namaste"
Oh wait, I'm an American first and foremost, "Get the **** outta here"
Sorry for the multiple posts...