From The Guardian:
Leading UK Muslims have united to tell Tony Blair that his foreign policy in Iraq and on Israel offers "ammunition to extremists" and puts British lives "at increased risk".Does this have anything with jihad ideology? Heavens no!
An open letter signed by three of the four Muslim MPs, three of the four peers, and 38 organisations including the Muslim Council of Britain and the Muslim Association of Britain, was greeted with dismay in Downing Street.
"It is our view that current British government policy risks putting civilians at increased risk both in the UK and abroad."
Demagogues do their best demagoguing when they deflect attention from their evil deeds by always blaming others.
Of course:
Fighting crime will create more crime!
Fighting Jihad-terror will create more Jihad-terror...!
Al Bebeeceera keeps reporting it over & over, it must be true! Or is it???
Or is European lunacy & appeasement so far advanced that reason & common sense are now out of fashion and permanently disabled?
being a man city fan , i'm now going to start planting bombs on board planes , etc , until fifa change the rules so that my oh-so-hopeless team are automatically awarded a place in the championships league , with much needed help in their following matches against ac milan , barcelona , etc....
and when THAT doesn't work , i'll whinge , complain , sulk , mope , cry , have a tantrum , wet my pants , blub , throw a hissy fit , stamp my feet , pull faces , pull long faces , pout , stick my tongue out , etc...
who am i? a spoilt , bullying child or a muslim?
And what makes Delhi and Mumbai targets ?
"Delhi, Mumbai Al-Qaeda's top targets: US "
http://www.centralchronicle.com/20060812/1208002.htm
Oh, this should be very interesting...
I wonder how the Indians will feel about the Muslims coming at them? Especially with their new economy driven by the out-sourcing of technology resourcing there?
You know, the Bhagavad Gita and Mahabarata, while having a peaceful message, still condone the anihilation of an entire family.
I just wonder what the Sikhs and Hindus will do....
This is the none-too-subtle threat that comes with every terrorist act - you must accede to our demands or we will inflict still more terror. Today it's the seemingly "reasonable" demand that Britain stop its military actions in Muslim lands (obviously blackmailing on foreigh policy is not reasonable, even though it worked in Spain) but tomorrow it will be that pork products, alcohol and bikinis be banned, etc. until full Sharia is in place.
Any concession to this line of thought would be the camel's nose in the tent, and would lead to ever more threats. If Iran gets the bomb, expect these kinds of threats a thousand times more serious - for example, Iran could simply **say**, without it even being true, that they had slowly but successfully trucked a bomb to an apartment in London, Rome, Madrid, etc. and that if those governments didn't do XYZ, the bomb would be lit.
Britain should step up its activity in Afghanistan, help India in Kashmir, and the US and Britain should help Thailand and the Philipines combat their Muslim nut jobs. Finally, the West should be seriously thinking about occupying Mecca to bring this thing to a head. Let's force a confrontation with worldwide Islam, including the Saudis, Kuwaitis, etc. on our terms before it is too late.
I believe it is underway. Now. We need more people to wake up. Increase the volume. Keep the pressure on. Out think them.
Finally a solution, actively attempting to stop muslims from committing murder against our friends just makes even more want to commit murder against those same friends and against us. Now, I understand it all. We need a national take a muslim to breakfast day (starting today). Take a muslim to breakfast and peaceful ask them not to attack us or our friends. Be very careful not to invite them during ramadon, don’t order bacon and for Gods sake make sure you pick up the tab.
I just wore up and have yet to eat, any muslim in Tampa up for a meal? I’d love to hear you explain how protecting our friends hurts your feelings. I have enough money to pick up the tab and I’ll bring you a hanky. I’ll skip bacon but I do ask you to leave your suicide belt at home, loud noises bother me. I admit I have a terrible problem identifying a moderate from a non moderate muslim, I am silly enough to consider you all as just muslims. It would be easier if you identified yourself clearly, you know like in the koran where it orders non muslims to be clearly be marked but in reverse. You should were a shirt saying “moderate muslim” on it. It is ok with me if you just use a marker but it should be in English. Since we are doing the reverse thing, sit after I do and eat when I am finished. Then I will watch you cry about how much your life in a free society sucks and how you are forced against your will to support terrorism. Lastly I will agree it suks to be you and I’ll leave you knowing I somehow helped you. At least you get a good meal on an infidels dime. Sorry I can’t bring you all but most restaurants in Tampa have limited sitting so the rest of you please continue to post. Ok now we have a solution everyone get out a few bucks and take a muslim to breakfast. I am so excited this could go global.
if l were an official of the government l would pull aside one of those immans, or have a hit man, that if l hear those words again, we will make your lives very miserable, if you think its bad now, you aint seen nothin yet. this if all off record of course. where is John Wayne, where are the cowboys?
I feel these so called leading muslims are either stupid or they want a backlash. Their arrogant assumption that they can circumvent the democratic process accompanying their "advice" with veiled threats deserves contempt. Lecture the primative potential murderer's in your communities not the the leader of the rest of the UK population untailted by your cultist hatred.
Back to the obvious. If you, - concerned leading UK muslims, don't like UK foreign policy, make your case through the ballot box. Do not continue rushing to mitigate for YOUR - not our - terrorists. If you cannot comply then just f**k off out of here! The rest of us are running out of patience FAST.
An earlier report by the BBC (5am British time) named three of the groups represented. As well as the two already mentioned, we had the "Muslim Parliament of Great Britain". What the heck is that? I notice these names have now been removed from the report. Any other early risers see it? Among those signing the letter were Lord Ahmed and Baroness Uddin! God help us!
Sencit they have a website:
http://www.muslimparliament.org.uk/
I did'nt bother to read it as I have yet to eat and might get sick.
Sencit:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4785893.stm
I thought you were joking. But no, it is true. There is a Lord Ahmed of Rotherham and a Baroness Uddin!
LMFAO! Have the Brits lost their minds?!
George by claiming a title like "lord" he has placed himself higher than old mohammad himself, he was only a prophet. This guy had best watch his back or a devout muslim will sharpen a knife on him.
And that, ladies and gentleman, is the Islamic demonization before attacking. First justify your offensive, THEn attack. These leaders are trying to shift the blame form their worshippers to "someone else" as long it is not the Muslims! Doesn't that remind you of Hitler?
Ronin: Dont worry for "Lord Ahmed". He has solid Muslim credentials. Google tells us he is a Paki from Kashmir (practically all their terrorists hail from that region) and that he's a "fighter for
Muslim justice" and a anti-semite -- sorry, anti-zionist.
Now that's great news, see at least someone is safe from muslim extremists.
Ok, I am getting hungry waiting on a muslim to share breakfast with. I will go and eat in the sprit of true friendship. At least now I can order bacon. I will continue to feel sorry for my oppressed muslim brothers while I wipe bacon grease from my lips. It is still not to late if you are a muslim and happen to have a shirt claiming you are a moderate, I’m buying.
Your friend in tolerance, Ronin: defender of puppies and those to stupid to defend themselves.
Wait... that's it!!! Ronin has it!!!
Why waste countless billions on munitions when bacon fat will send them all screaming!!!
Just drop tons of bacon fat on them!!
What a hilarious thought....
Why, we could each carry around a nice piece of greasy bacon with us each day... kinda like garlic?
or as our sign of solidarity? ( |8^p)
COPIED FROM THE BBC COMMENT SITE TODAY.
I also agree that Britain needs to wake up to what is happening in society. I have worked amongst polite, easy going and popular muslim and asian men who would in secret talk about "death to the white man". I assumed they felt comfortable saying this to me since I'm Black British but it totally shocked me since they always seemed to get on with all races whilst at work. Unfortunately I'm talking about middle-class professionals not the jobless youth.
Whilst foreign policy is not welcomed by everyone in ths country we cannot use this as an excuse to appease people like this. I fear we are being distracted by focusing on the poor social classes, educated extremists are also dangerous.
Kate Simon, London, United Kingdom
Muslims Above All
This once again proves that if anything, Muslims have allegiance to their religion and nothing else. The fundamentalist Muslim politicians and the radical Muslim Council of Britain do not have any allegiance to their constituents or the UK. Only to Islam. That is why Islamism is the greatest threat to world peace and prosperity.
David
Canadian muslim leader condemns Bush as fascist, terrorist
Pakistan holds terror 'mastermind'
Ummah News Links
3% of the population are attempting to direct the foreign policy of the entire country - the only reason attention is paid to theem (and the BBC radio and TV news channels have given saturatio exposure to their views) is because of the threat of violence (both from them and their billion odd pals abroad). At the time of the Iraq invasion the view that Arab countries were incapable of becoming democracies was denounced as racist. This was just an idiotic attempt to frame the problems of the middle east in acceptable PC terms. What these Muslim MP's and associations are demonstrating in the UK right now is that Islam and democracy are incompatible.
Nothing will change until the West views all terror throught the same lens. The dangers of viewing the Lashkar-Taiba as India directed is now evident. Their terror-ground is the world and until there is determination to stamp out Islamic terrorism wherever its origin, the hydra cannot be tamed. The US must realise that there cannot be friendly Islamic countries that are carrying out terror attacks on another country.
This lunacy is getting serious! It is absolutely frightening that this blatant blackmail by Muslims toward their own country could exist at the highest levels of government AND they not be immediately arrested as traitors. It is one thing to be a citizen expressing your freedom of speech, but to be an MP and condone violence against the people you supposedly represnet, is beyond what a tolerant society should endure. If Muslims are not happy with their country's foreign policy then go about changing it in the normal political way, by the ballot box. Doubtful they would currently get very far, so they resort to blackmail and treats of terrorisms.
The rest of the world will not bend backwards to abease Muslims demands for our world to be exactly the way they want it. Threats of terrorism should be met with exactly the response the Brittons have so adeptly demonstrated. But a further response is needed, arrest obvious traitors before their influence can harm the normal citizenry. Round them up. We are at war. This is WAR TIME, not a stroll in the park. Nazis would have been rounded up. Communists were rounded up. Japanese were rounded up. Arrest traitorous Muslims before they hurt us. Make a statement and tell the Muslims in our own countries to back off before we get very much more annoyed.
The fact that the UK has not and will not submit to terrorists and their threats to convert to islam makes them a target just as it does every other country that is not islamic.
Never listen to anything a Muslim says! Not in this case, nor in any other.
A shot of taqiyya anyone? It's on the house.
I still hear this tripe from cable news journalists and Muslim spokespeople daily. Of course it is taboo to bring up Jihad ideology or to make other than a passing criticism of terrorists by Muslim spokespeople. It is usually drowned out by the whining about foreign policy and the "aggression" of Israel.
No, it is Muslims who make UK target.
from the dictionary:
"terrorism - an organised system of intimidation, especially for political ends"
Muslims want us to change foreign policy (a 'political end'). Some Muslims perform terrorist acts ('intimidation'). Other Muslims write a letter to say if we do not do what they want we will get terrorised (part of a 'system').
Foreign policy is not the ultimate end, but is a means to that end. We all know the ultimate end of Islam.
To do as terrorists require is to surrender to intimidation. This is the essence of terrorism.
It does not matter who is what part of the system, it is irrelevant if a system has split into teams and one team does the dirty work one team delivers the message. This is intimidation to achieve political ends.
It is irrelevant who is playing what part of a system and it is irrelevant if the ends are wrappped up in words and stages (such as 'you will cause terrorism' 'you wil cause radicalisation'). This is plain and simple terrorism.
We must never surrender one inch to terrorism.
Bohemond_1069 you are correct. There is nothing other than total submission that would prevent the UK from being a target. The only option is not to give in one inch. The targets, and ultimate goals, were all laid out 1400 years ago when the script was written.
Motto of the moderate UK Muslim leaders:" Why should we go around barking and biting people? We have dogs who do that for us."
http://www.samachar.com/showurl.htm?rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/7598_1767079,000500020000.htm?headline=Pak~quake~money~in~UK~terror~plot'
Story on an Indian Paper
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'Pak quake money in UK terror plot'
Asian News International
Karachi, August 12, 2006|15:56 IST
Money sent to Pakistan for quake rehabilitation was used to fund the Heathrow bomb attack plot that was foiled by British authorities, says an investigation by a leading Pakistani daily.
According to the Daily Times, the Muslim Charity of UK remitted a huge amount of money to three individuals in three different bank accounts in Mirpur, Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) in December 2005 as earthquake relief.
But the money in the three accounts in Saudi Pak Bank, Standard Chartered and Habib Bank Ltd was solely for the purpose of financing the foiled bomb plot, the paper said.
According to the report, two of the recipients are British citizens of Kashmir origin while the third is an Islamabad-based builder, also of Kashmir origin.
Officials said that all three have been arrested, but it is still not known whether the three had any links to militant organisations such as the Al-Qaeda or Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT).
An official said that UK National Terrorist Financial Investigation Unit authorities asked them to carry out 'discreet enquiries' about large sums of money being transferred by charities to accounts in Pakistan.
Following the tip off, the three were arrested. Interrogation of the suspects revealed some key elements of the aircraft bombing plan. It was then that Pakistani officials informed British authorities about the plan and the terror attempt was successfully foiled, said an official.
"Had we been even slightly complacent, the perpetrators of this plot might have been able to carry out their operations without little or no problem in the UK," the paper quoted a senior government official, privy to the inquiry, as saying.
The official said NTFIU had told them that a huge amount of money had been transferred from Britain to PoK for quake relief efforts two months after the quake.
"Neither the amount nor the purpose for which money was sent caused any concern in the British investigation unit. What raised alarm among British sleuths specialising in finances was the fact that the entire money was remitted to three individuals, not to any organisation or organisations involved in the relief work," he said.
"The entire transaction was in Pound Sterling. It was a huge amount. Had it not gone into the accounts of individuals, nobody would have been bothered," he added.
Islam vs. West
The following link, Magdi Khalil: Political Islam and West, suggests that this phenomeon we are witnessing is cyclic. The author Magdi Khalil makes very interesting observations like Sam P. Huntington on the same topic. (Probably this is not off topic in relation to what the UK Muslim elders and community leaders are saying about US & UK policies that affect Muslims.)
The grim side is that if Muslims disagree with US and UK foreign policies, which they certainly have a right to, then they should leave USA and UK and settle back in those barbaric Muslim lands where they came from (migrated for a better life) in the first place. But, no ! These rascals would stay back and terrorize the other majority in these western infidel countries without any shame or guilt. It is time to have these jokers interned like in WWII the Japs were interened by USA.
It would be interesting to what JW readers think of Khalil's opinion.
Comments ?
Mohammed bin Kafir Abu Jahal
Leading UK Muslims have united to tell Tony Blair that his foreign policy in Iraq and on Israel offers "ammunition to extremists" and puts British lives "at increased risk".
The leading muslims should lead their flocks back where they came from. muslims ARE the ammunition, and THEY have put all of OUR lives at risk.
How DARE they always accuse, demand, and make excuses for their own actions of terror, especially when they got found out.
Not as smart as they think, are they? I do believe they are "protesting too much"
"Have the Brits lost their minds?!"
If they -- and the Rest of the West -- don't find their minds soon, their heads will go next.
Future News Story:
August 12, 2016 --
LONDON The Times has confirmed that the band of over 50 Asian youths who on Thursday stormed 10 Downing Street and held Prime Minister Galloway hostage have this morning beheaded the Prime Minister, the Lord Speaker, and Prince Andrew, the latter two who were visiting with the Prime Minister at the time of the assault. All indications point to this band of 50 as being members of a tiny extremist minority that has nothing to do with an Islam purer than the driven snow, and all British people are being warned by the Metropolitan Police to be nice to Muslims or face immediate arrests.
I read a few comments above asking Muslims to excercise their franchise and take part uin Democracy.
Let me reassure you - my friends, they will defenitely take part in democracy - but when they become the majority through more immigration, breeding programmes ... any means . But till then, please excuse them - they know only 'peaceful' violent methods to make their opinions heard.
As long as they are less than 50% of the population, they need minority rights and cries of "the oppressive majority are making it hard for the poor Muslims to lead a peaceful life" will emanate from the 'leaders' of the Musilims.
As and when their population hovers on or above the 50% mark, Ummocracy will be installed, because anyway Muslims will win.
"For the Umma, By the Umma, Of the Umma "
The above statements are not made in jest -
Please do read the history of Lebanon and now - India ... 15% muslims 'ruling' the dhimmis.
And
You would never have guessed that would you?
What I got from the article was that unless Britain stops supporting Israel, then these terrorist attacks will continue.
Will the British government cave in, and change their foreign policy of support for Israel because of this?
These people remind me of the mafia, who offer "protection" from violence as long as you do what they say.
What I got from the article was that unless Britain stops supporting Israel, then these terrorist attacks will continue.
Will the British government cave in, and change their foreign policy of support for Israel because of this?
These people remind me of the mafia, who offer "protection" from violence as long as you do what they say.
I posted this on the other thread, but I just saw the name of the mosque in London which is at the center of the terrorist plot.. it is Masjid e Umer.
Masjid the name is Persian/Shia if it were Sunni it would be Masjid or Mosque al Something or other.
So while the Fox is ranting about al Qaeda, this plot is Shi'a centered, and that of course means Iran.
Then again what Osama did for the Wahhabiyyah, is to create a syncretic union of Wahhabi and Shi'a Islam, and that is what the Taliban is, it is neither Shi'a or Sunni, but both (actually Wahhabi and Shi'a).
Muslim Politicians are Right
The Muslim politicians are right. Current UK policy puts Britons at Risk. But not for the reason they proclaim. Britain's policy of pleasing the Muslim minority (mainly fundamentalist Muslims from Pakistan and Bangladesh) and letting in thousands of fake refugees every year puts non-Muslim Britons at risk of terrorist attacks from their Muslim neighbors.
Non-Muslim Britons have only one alternative: Force the government by collective action to stop Muslim immigration and stop treating Muslims as a privelaged minority.
David
I was watching BBC news lastnight on cable ( live in Ireland) They had on the father of two of those muppets that the police rounded up for the hijack plot.
He was crying his eyes out over his poor sons, couldn't figure out how these clowns got into trouble. Usual muslim dribble about his kids been so good and nice to small children and animals, blah , blah , blah and so on.
They mentioned that he had lived in the UK for 32 years, currently unemployed but the killer was that he couldn't speak a word of english!!! He has a translator with him talking to the BBC reporter. How can you live in a country 32 years and not learn the language? What is wrong with that picture? Tip of the iceberg this problem and we've a growing muslim problem over here as well.
The open letter that the Muslims sent is easily turned round so i've sent this to the MCB:
As British People of whatever race we urge you to do more to fight against the people in your religion who target civilians with violence, whenever and wherever that happens.
It is the view of many British people that the current Muslim jihad is a direct threat against the future of this country regardless of foreign policy and furthermore that threat intentionally targets civilians as way of spreading its message through terror at home and abroad.
To combat terror the Muslim community has focused extensively on foreign policy. While some of this will have an impact, the Muslim community must not ignore the role of global jihad and its impact on British foreign policy.
The debacle in Iraq that does not predate global jihad and the failure to do more to secure an immediate end to the attacks on civilians from places such as India, Britain, Egypt and America, not to mention Somalia, Sudan, Israel and Thailand etc. These attacks only increase the risk to ordinary people across the world. It is also ammunition for the mass majority of the world’s population, who are sick of the world being a dangerous and unsafe place. And who consider in the light of nearly all the terrorism in the world being committed by Muslims, are getting tired of appeasing those who wish for slow jihad while making apologises and trying to understand why the Islamic world teaches its children jihad as a form of war.
Attacking civilians is never justified. In addition, the repression of women’s rights and honour killings are never justified either. The message is a global one.
I implore the MCB to denounce radical Islam now without reserve before we reach the position were Islam is no longer welcome in Britain.
Mert
Great letter.
It appears that the liberal, almost anti-national NYT is realizing its mistake(s) in ledaking to the public about the NSA's evesdropping program. The following NYT report
US Anti-Terrorism Laws Weaker than UK ?
makes the case (probably). It states that while in UK these Mulims scums can be held for 28 days without any charges, in USA it is only 48 hours. Of course Tony Blair had initially asked for 90 days and the propsal was axed by his liberal cabinet collagues. MI5 has more authority in snooping on suspects than our FBI, that constantly faces the ire of liberal dunderheads.
In that sense, the US justice system, that got fixated with the 48 hour timeline is probably another problem. Because Islamic terrorism is a hard case to track. Without appropriate survelliance and subsequent meticulous documentation (i.e. charge/report), all these suspects would emerge scot-free from the US courts and hence shouting "Allah-u-Akbar". This would embolden them to become more slick and commit acts in the name of Mohammedanism with much more fervor. The faithful would interpret the weakness in the American judicial system as a sign that Allah has granted them power to go and do anything, without having to bother about the consequences.
In this sense, is US more dhimmi than UK ?
Mohammed bin Kafir Abu Jahal
binge_drinking_pig wrote:
According to the Daily Times, the Muslim Charity of UK remitted a huge amount of money to three individuals in three different bank accounts in Mirpur, Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) in December 2005 as earthquake relief.
But the money in the three accounts in Saudi Pak Bank, Standard Chartered and Habib Bank Ltd was solely for the purpose of financing the foiled bomb plot, the paper said.
...............
This is so evil. Either terrorist supporters using a humanitarian disaster as a front to siphon money to terrorists, or, even worse, stealing money sent by soft-hearted Westerners to finance their own destruction.
There was an article a few days ago in one of our local (SF Bay Area) papers a few days ago about local charities with warehouses full of relief goods to be sent to Lebanon. They lamented that people were donating goods because they were scared to send money out of fear they might be harrassed by the US government for funding possible terrorist agencies.
There was *no* indication that this was a legitimate concern--it made it sound as though paranoid and mean governmental agencies were leading to children going without diapers. In the article, no one challenged this view at all.
billyboy
They mentioned that he had lived in the UK for 32 years, currently unemployed but the killer was that he couldn't speak a word of english!!!
How can you live in a country 32 years and not learn the language?
That is not unusual; they live in exclusively Muslim areas with their own shops, travel agents, and lawyer’s etc.etc. The authorities bend over backwards to communicate with them in "their own" language. In a multi cultural society Councils are proud that the signs in Town Halls are multi-lingual and all government information leaflets are. This is actually a standing joke because apart from a minority of educated men most of them are illiterate in “their own” language.
How can they work? Some time ago I was shocked when told a white Englishman of 20 had 3 children. I asked what job has he got to afford 3 children at 20? Answer. With 3 children today you don’t need to work.
Translation: Don't interfere with our plans for your demise, or we may just have to kill more of you.
And yet nobody is asking an obvious question: how did the UK end up having a Muslim problem?
Boxter you said:
"Let me see if I have this right. Britain has taken a stand against the bad guys. Now the bad guys are going to get us. So, we have people, loosly associated with the bad guys through a similar religious belief saying we should not stand against the bad guys because it puts us as personal harm. "
This is EXACTLY why they can scream at anti-war marches but they NEVER organize marches to scream against terrorism.
THEY ARE SYMPATHETIC WITH THE TERRORISTS!!!
They are guilty by their silence.
What these muslim MPs are playing, is a game of good cop/bad cop.
The terrorists are bad cops who do the bombing, the others are the good cops, who "deplore" the bombing, while warning that more bombing will be on the way if the government doesn't do what they want.
Billyboy...you said:
"How can you live in a country 32 years and not learn the language? What is wrong with that picture?"
I just moved back to the States a year ago. I lived and worked in England for 7 years. I can tell you that there are areas of London, Birmingham, Coventry, Leicester, etc. that you do NOT feel safe in anymore. Everyone is dressed in Muslim garb and all the shops are Islamic.
We had a Christian fish symbol on our car and I have to say that going into that area to do consultancy work...you wondered when you left if your car was going to blow up.
THEY DO NOT INTEGRATE!!!!! They keep to themselves. THIS is why they can live in the country 32 years and not learn the language.
To make matters worse, you have Al Jazera and other Islamic stations being pumped into the country. Is that stupid or what? Are they TRYING to incite the muslims? Everything is spoken in arabic and english speaking folks can't understand what they are saying. Of course, they do not bother to have english on the bottom. Now, they are talking about allowing those anti-american, anti-Israel, anti-west stations into the US.
I think we need to do SOMETHING to change things before it's too late.
I was SICK of Islam in the UK and that played a MAJOR part in our decision to move here. The EU is up to their necks in Muslims and I dread to think how awful it's going to be there in another 5 years...if the monkey doesn't blow us all up first.
Mohammed bin Kafir Abu Jahal, you said:
"in UK these Mulims scums can be held for 28 days without any charges, in USA it is only 48 hours"
Put them on a plan to 'parts unknown' and let the Saudis or similar do the interrogations.
That will sort them. They can just 'go missing' until the information is discovered.
Living for 32 years cannot make them speak English is really a disgrace and that tells a story of how secluded they want to live and behave.
A school kid of 2nd standard school in most of the urban centers in India can articulate his thoughts with ease in English...
Living for 32 years and not able to speak English is the index of the Muslims worth in Britian.
OH ROT, then what did all these countries do to reap the wrath of Muslims,Spain, Tunisia, Iraq, Russia, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Turkey, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Kenya, Tanzania, Bali, Indonesia, Philippines, USR, Egypt, Britain, etc they have all been struck by terror attacks.
Then there is :
Nigeria, Sudan, Egypt, Israel, Lebanon, Armenia, Macedonia, Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Chechnya, Russia, Kashmir, Pakistan, Indonesia and the Philippines and many others. Tens of thousands of people slaughtered in some of these countries every year, and no outrage from so called moderate Muslims, hmmm I wonder why not... or is this just the army of Islam on the move again...
We have to realise that it is not the people, it is what their moon god and leader told them to do.. it is their religion and while the Quran is around we can never, never stop this hatred, or advance..
americaningermany,
Because of the crude (oil) money.
Because of the crude (oil) money.
Posted by: arjun.sevak at August 13, 2006 01:15 PM
.. makes "hydrogen/hybrid" the way to go....