UK: Cleric who urged jihad to be freed from prison

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2036538_1,00.html

British imam praises London Tube bombers

A LEADING imam in the mosque where the July 7 bombers worshipped has hailed their terrorist attack on London as a “good” act in a secretly taped conversation with an undercover reporter.

Hamid Ali, spiritual leader of the mosque in West Yorkshire, said it had forced people to take notice when peaceful meetings and conferences had no impact.

He also praised the bombers as the “children” of Abdullah al-Faisal, a firebrand Muslim cleric, who was convicted of inciting murder and racial hatred in 2003.

Ali revealed that the leader of the London suicide bombers had attended sermons in Yorkshire by al-Faisal and tapes of al-Faisal’s teachings were still circulating within his mosque.

Al-Faisal, who has branded non-Muslims as “cockroaches” ripe for extermination, is serving a seven-year prison sentence but is eligible for early release next week.

Deported to Jamaica? I can't remember, is it Jamaica that is For Lovers, or is that Virginia? In any case, the spread of Islam in Jamaica, by such a one as "Sheik Abdullal al-Faisal" (how pleased he must have been to give himself that grand name, what a thrill it must have been), will doom completely the Jamaican Tourist Industry. All it takes is one incident, all it takes is the spotting of a few hijabbed women, and that will do the trick. Does the Jamaican Commission on Tourism, do all those who make their living through tourism, wish to have their livelihood endangered? No, they don't.

And what about those Rastafarians, worshippers of Ras Tafari, Haile Selassie, the Negus of Ethiopia? Is it well-known that Ethiopia was, and is, a Christian kingdom, and one that managed to remain Christian but is now more threatened than ever by Islam.

To be a true Rastafarian is to be concerned with the Muslim assault, within and without, on the Christians of Ethiopia.

If I were a Rastafarian, or if I were merely trying to make a living through the main industry, toursim, in Jamaica, I wouldn't be happy about this fanatical Muslim being deported back to Jamaica. I'd want to discourage him from settling down, from engaging in Da'wa, from doing things which would affect my livelihood, my security, and even my interest, if I happened to have it, in Ethiopia's last Christian king.

I'd want to be extremely unwelcoming to Sheik Abdullah al-Faisal. I'd urge others to do the same. I'd want to make his life such that he would decide he might be better off, say, in Yemen, or Saudi Arabia, or some place where, when he finds out about the Arab attitude toward non-Arab, and especially black, Muslims, it will be too late.

Jamaica has enough problems with violence and gun crime, have they really agreed to accept dis ya bumba-claat gangsta back a-yard?

At his trial, Faisal insisted that no Jews or Hindus be allowed on the jury. The prosecution agreed to this.

Oh, hush! Don't give Jamaica ideas. If Jamaica threatens him, he will have to stay here in Britain where it is illegal to deport anyone to a country where they may be in danger - no matter how criminally dangerous they are to us.

Gee - I just LOVE the Human Rights Act. It so protects my right to, e.g. live in peace and safety.

This lenient attitude toward fanatic Muslim imams who preach jihad --in effect, mass murder-- against infidels, that is, fellow citizens of the UK, puts in question whether the UK government really wants to fight terrorism. In any case, this attitude endangers the UK population, as some posters from Britain realize.

Here is an idea. The West could buy out Devil's Island from France - they are not using it for a prison any more. Maybe France would even donate it to the cause of Western Survival.

Then as they come off their sentences, retire all the fanatical mulsim prison "graduates" to this nice little tropical paradise. They could walk all over the island, even have a mosque, but would not be allowed to leave.

Women would have to be barred since we do not want propagation of this breed. They can wait for nature to give them the 72 virgins to welcome them into the "real" paradise.

We will have a large crop of these types being released over the next few decades, and I doubt they will be any tamer than when they began their sentence. Devil's Island would be a great place for them, and appropriately named.

This article: http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1225072006

Check out the article above. Azzam Tamimi, who lives in London, told a crowd of 8000 rabid acolytes in Manchester that Hamas is not a terrorist organization. But one of the most interesting comments of his diatribe was this:

"We are Muslims in Europe, not European Muslims."

This is the universal mindset of muslims in every nation they invade and exploit. Muslims are encouraged by fomenters like Tamimi to demand "justice" and at the same time, disavow fealty to the nations in which they live. This is the epitome of muslim effrontery and should infuriate every non-muslim citizen, including members of the dhimmi British establishment, and all other muslim-infested Western nations.

This demagogue is asserting the superiority of muslims by saying that they have the unalienated right to colonize any Western nation and DEMAND their variety of "justice."

He should finish his sentence ....end of story then be deported without appeal.

What a joke this Govt is ....cost taxpayers Millions in legal aid keeping contemptible lawyers in luxury while they milk the politics of human rights. What about our rights to peace and safety.

The man is a terrorist , found guilty and sent to prison...deportation should be automatic ..let him appeal at his own expense from Jamaica.

Better still send his lawyers with him !!

Slightly OT but here's a video of Azzam Tamimi ranting in Trafalgar Square.Unbelievable that these people are allowed to speak there at all and equally appalling that they are not arrested for inciting racial hatred and murder.
Notice the presence of the Neturai Karta, the ultra-orthodox Jewish cult who are extreme anti-Zionists and regularly meet up with Hamas,Hezbollah and the President of Iran.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh6q02J6dJk

Jamaican Rastafarianism: consanguinities with the Islamic pathos

I have noticed an unusual number of recent terrorists have been Jamaican (at least four).

Jamaican blacks whether rastafari or not, tend to have a subculture of Western (subset: British) antipathy, which is part of the larger, amorphous antipathy against the West (and the West's vanguard, the USA) shared by many blacks and other Third World peoples, who can often be naively myopic about the agenda of an apparently emboldeningly anti-Western Islam.

And I wouldn't go so far as Hugh does that Rastafari is necessarily untainted by Islam or that it has no consanguinities with Islam (just because there has been a history of Ras Tafari (Haile Selassie) and his father fighting Islamics in Ethiopia (notably, Selassie offered asylum to Armenians fleeing the Turkish genocide) doesn't mean their culture -- particularly the extrapolated subculture in Jamaica whose continuities with Haile Selassie are more mythopoetic than actually sociopolitical -- has not been insidiously informed/deformed by Islam):

Consider a few glimpses of some consanguinities:

Bobo dread -- A certain sect of Rastas that wear turbans and carry brooms to signify cleansiness. They are of the Bobo Shanti order and are true followers of Prince Emmanuel.

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Di Rasta dem say, “Bun dung queer!” (The Rastas say, “Burn down (kill) the queers!”)

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I-tal -- Rasta term for “Vital”, which is a strict diet and way of life. Most commonly Rasta food that is pure, unprocessed, and unsalted.

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Jah guide -- A Rasta farewell and good-bye. Literally says that “God shall guide.” [We all know the importance of "guidance" in Islam]

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May 30, 2002: A judge who locked up a man after he refused to remove his Rastafarian headgear said he did not mean to cause offence.
Judge Robert Orme said that he had not intended to disparage Rastafari, but remained tight lipped regarding claims that he had told Terrence Lynch to "practise his religion outside" following the incident which happened last Tuesday.
Mr Lynch was held for two hours in police cells after he refused to move his hat while watching a court case from the public gallery.He said it was religious headgear.

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"We must become members of a new race, overcoming petty prejudice, owing our ultimate allegiance not to nations but to our fellow men within the human community" (Address of Him [i.e., Haile Selassie] to the United Nations Oct. 6th 1963)

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A Jamaican woman, Sensimellia, discusses on her website the documentary film by another Jamaican woman, Bianca Nyavingi Brynd, on the Rasta woman, Roots Daughters:

"It was no surprise that this well-crafted work documenting the opinion and status of Rasta women from Jamaica, Guyana and Canada showed that Rasta women are perhaps even more secondary within the culture itself.

"The documentary dealt with a variety of issues Rasta women face, from polygamy, contraception and diet, to spiritual denomination...the problem of sexist double standards and the demonizing of the woman are still prominent in some Rastafarian communities."

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A Rastafari website reveals some murky anti-Judaism mixed with quasi-Gnostic mythology:

"Our beloved and ancient tradition; mystical and esoteric Rastafari, a very kaballistic system, means wisdom handed down telepathically or by word of mouth, mimicked by grafted ones claiming to be descendants of one King Solomon. There were no Jews in Jerusalem at the time of the so called Queen of Sheba, there was no state called Israel, King Solomon is a Masonic myth and allegory. At one time it was forbidden to call the holy name of god, that same priesthood who as a people claim to be slaves in Egypt under the biblical pharaoh created the tetragrammaton the four consonants of the so called ancient Hebrew name for god, unutterable, considered too sacred to be spoken aloud, the four consonants are YHVH the modern reconstructions are Yahweh, Jehovah, hidden in YHVH was the name of god, in essence this hokum was to keep the populous from knowing truth. Knowing the plots of the so called Jews wisdom was written saying; behold! I shall come in a new name and that name shall be terrible and dreadful amongst nations - we will get to that name later, here is the true hidden name of god the so called Jews hid, Yod He Vau He, which became four syllables (Hebrew) a four letter name representing god energy; the most important of the eleven names of power; so reverend and so powerful that it is not allowed to be spoken aloud or silently except by the high priests when in a holy room; Jehovah is spoken in substitution. Y (Yod) is represented by the king; stands for the first principle and is the origin of all things; (He) - H symbolizes substance; in opposition to essence; meaning the life and feminine principle, the Queen; V (Vau) indicates affinity; completes the tri unity; its pictured by the bond of love and the mystery of union, King Selassie and Queen Menen exemplified by the four knights and suit of swords in esoteric tarot. H -(He) the second He."

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(AP, February 20, 2003)

A prison grooming policy is being challenged by six inmates three Rastafarians and three Muslims who claim the rules violate a federal law that protects religious freedom.

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Look at this slant against the US and Israel vis-a-vis the geopolitics of the threat of Iran on the news website "Rasta Times":

http://rastafaritimes.com/rasnews/viewnews.cgi?newsid1111022727,92105,.shtml

UK - you deserve to be attacked repeatedly until you 'get it'. Same for the U.S. and any other nation which fails to realize that the ideological war is paramount.

The Observer seems to standing up for Muslims with no valid basis similarly to the BBC for example when they reported the demo against the Muhammad cartoons. The demo was described as being Muslims demonstrating against extremism! This was not borne out by their own interviews with demonstrators which made it clear they were demonstrating against the cartoons.

Kelticman:

"What a joke this Govt is ....cost taxpayers Millions in legal aid keeping contemptible lawyers in luxury while they milk the politics of human rights."

You are so so right. Unfortunately, it's not going to end any time soon because the Prime Minister's wife is one of thase doing the hardest legal aid milking in the Human Rights industry. Estimates of her earnings run somewhere between £150K - £400K per annum. And the Blairs have a £4 million mortgage (how they get a mortgage in the region of 10X family earnings is another great unanswered question of our times - Blair himself gets another £150K or so). Americans will have to work it out in dollars for themselves because I haven't a clue about current exchange rates.

Are you a real Celt?

Jimmy:

No need for Devils Island. The climate there is far too comfortable for them. St. Kilda, forty miles out into the Atlantic off the West coast of Scotland has been empty since it was abandoned in the 1930s. That'll do nicely sir.

Vindictive? Moi?

I think that prison is the safest place for this Abdullah el-Faisal character. Let's hope the next time we hear about him it will be that he has been found among the Tesco trolleys in a canal!

I don't understand why these raving lunatics aren't arrested for hate speech.

"St. Kilda, forty miles out into the Atlantic off the West coast of Scotland has been empty since it was abandoned in the 1930s."

St. Kilda, just a hop, skip, and watery jump from Muck and the Little Minch, with its watery mallecho. Quiet, save for the caws of birds borne from the sea stacs, and wrap-around ocean views. And that may not be all. One might find, perhaps, having floated ashore/Some intact bottles out of "Whiskey Galore." A lot to be said for St. Kilda, but I won't say it all here.

As a Yorkshire Welsh Jew living in Saudi Arabia, I can only repeat the old Arab saying:
"Four things come not back: the spoken word, the spent arrow, the past, the neglected opportunity."
- Omar Idn Al-Halif mo. (I don't know who Omar was - not a Taliban, I think, anyway.)

Thus, whatever drivel is on this page does not matter.

I can't find the details, but I recall a quote from a British envoy in the 19th century to the effect that the rest of the world was pretty much going to have to come to a compromise with Islam.

We are experiencing the historical process that will arrive at that compromise. We may not like it, but it looks like it's going to happen. All I see is Muslims killing people, and I wonder if Islam may be "666" (the number of the Beast) - anti-life, anti-Christ. If it is, then it is the Enemy, and it is implacable.